Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
Tom Samplonius wrote: - Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any alternative solutions that would provide a more reliable environment other than PAE? Besideds PAE some people have mentioned running an amd64 system. One thing to consider is that PAE in 6-stable

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Pete French
Does anyone have any alternative solutions that would provide a more reliable environment other than PAE? I was faced with a similar problem last autmumn - we had been running 6.2 on a set of servers with 4 gig or RAM, but purchased new servers with 16 gig in them. I experimented with various

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Vivek Khera
On Feb 20, 2008, at 1:56 AM, Tom Samplonius wrote: And is there some really stability fear about FreeBSD on x86-64? Seems just the same as i386. Some poorly written software fails to run properly in 64-bit environment. I have one such package, and my solution was to compile it on a

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Oliver Fromme
Kevin K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a box that we recently installed 16GB of RAM on. The box is i386 FreeBSD 6.2. It only recognizes 4gb. Several people have already pointed out that you can either run FreeBSD/i386+PAE or FreeBSD/amd64 (64bit). However, there's an important piece of

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Ivan Voras
Tom Samplonius wrote: Is PAE really that stable? I thought it was fairly unpolished, mainly because PAE is seen as a weak kludge implemented by Intel because they all thought we would all be using Itanium's by now. Intel reversed their folly pretty quickly, adopted the x86-64

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Pete French
Architecturally, it's a nasty kludge. As far as stability on FreeBSD is concerned, my only machine under PAE with 4 GB RAM (without PAE it would use a bit over 3 GB) is very solid on 6-STABLE. To the original poster - does a PAE kernel actually boot on your 16 gig machines ? My problem was

RE: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Kevin K
Thank you all for your suggestions. I have been trying to push to move to amd64 architecture for all the reasons you all stated. For the record, we tested PAE on one machine, booted the kernel w/ nextboot and it crashed about 15 minutes later. I will consider configuring a dump device to

Re: tmpfs: strange behaviour

2008-02-20 Thread Oliver Fromme
David Naylor wrote: Oliver Fromme wrote: What is the exact CFLAGS setting that you use? Do you use -O2 (or -Os) without -fno-strict-aliasing? I have managed to isolate the problem and it is definitely tmpfs related. If the directory that I'm installing into is tmpfs then it will

Re: dmesg : no output on 1 of 2 7-stable boxes

2008-02-20 Thread Oliver Fromme
Julian H. Stacey wrote: Oliver Fromme wrote: The dmesg buffer is a circular buffer containing both kernel output and console output. However, dmesg displays only the kernel output. If there was lots of console output, it filled all of the dmesg buffer, so dmesg displays nothing

Re:more than 4gb of RAM (configurations)

2008-02-20 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
On Feb 19, 2008 5:10 PM, Kevin K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a box that we recently installed 16GB of RAM on. The box is i386 FreeBSD 6.2. It only recognizes 4gb. Siding with most of the group (go amd64), I'll add my own comment: Using PAE to access 4G of RAM (because 4G shows up as

Re: sysinstall: weird ui problem

2008-02-20 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 17:29 +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE amd64 Running sysinstall for post-installation configuration of sorts in xterm/konsole/gnome-terminal. Hmm your $TERM environmental variable is set to vt100? vt200? wscons? ~BAS Very strange issue: arrow keys work

Re: Dual Core Xeon / i386 install w/ more than 4gb of RAM

2008-02-20 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Tom Samplonius [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080219 23:00] wrote: - Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any alternative solutions that would provide a more reliable environment other than PAE? Besideds PAE some people have mentioned running an amd64 system.

Re: sysinstall: weird ui problem

2008-02-20 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 20/02/2008 20:45 Brian A. Seklecki said the following: On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 17:29 +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE amd64 Running sysinstall for post-installation configuration of sorts in xterm/konsole/gnome-terminal. Hmm your $TERM environmental variable is set to

FreeBSD 6.3 update and process freeze

2008-02-20 Thread Gil Bidon
Hi, Since i've updated my machine to FreeBSD 6.3 some process randomly start using 100% CPU or are locked to STOP state (in top). Is there a known solution / patch ? Except the rollback :) Regards, Gil ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: FreeBSD 6.3 update and process freeze

2008-02-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
Gil Bidon wrote: Hi, Since i've updated my machine to FreeBSD 6.3 some process randomly start using 100% CPU or are locked to STOP state (in top). Is there a known solution / patch ? Except the rollback :) You need to tell us more information. What processes are they? Kris

Re: FreeBSD 6.3 update and process freeze

2008-02-20 Thread Aaron Martinez
Gil Bidon wrote: Hi, Since i've updated my machine to FreeBSD 6.3 some process randomly start using 100% CPU or are locked to STOP state (in top). Is there a known solution / patch ? Except the rollback :) Regards, Gil ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org

Re: sysinstall: weird ui problem

2008-02-20 Thread Brian A. Seklecki (Mobile)
On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 23:11 +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 20/02/2008 20:45 Brian A. Seklecki said the following: On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 17:29 +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE amd64 Running sysinstall for post-installation configuration of sorts in