Re: [Freedos-user] UltraDMA warning corrected

2016-01-14 Thread Jim Hall
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Bret Johnson wrote: > There's also a question of the timing, since I think Jack wrote and released > those programs and source code before the MS-DOS source code was released > (unless Jack had gotten access to some MS source code earlier than

Re: [Freedos-user] UltraDMA warning corrected

2016-01-14 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jim, > I am concerned by this statement from Jack's email: "Take a look at > the sources for Microsoft HIMEM or EMM386, as I have..." This is the > first I was aware that Jack had reviewed any source code from > Microsoft. ... > When Microsoft released the source code to an earlier version

Re: [Freedos-user] UltraDMA warning corrected

2016-01-14 Thread Tom Ehlert
> I am concerned by this statement from Jack's email: "Take a look at > the sources for Microsoft HIMEM or EMM386, as I have…" This is the > first I was aware that Jack had reviewed any source code from > Microsoft. Microsoft made the source for HIMEM.SYS available to programmers in 1988.

Re: [Freedos-user] UltraDMA warning corrected

2016-01-14 Thread Thomas Mueller
Excerpt from Eric Auer: > Absolutely NOT TRUE! "V86" mode was created by Intel to provide a > way of (a) running 16-bit programs on 32-bit systems, (B) providing > protection for the system from such programs. EMS hardware is NOT > "simulated" but is REQUIRED to access extended memory, which

Re: [Freedos-user] UltraDMA warning corrected

2016-01-14 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > > I am not a lawyer, but over time I have received advice from lawyers. Jim, at risk of sounding very naive (or very stubborn), there's absolutely no reason to worry about things like this without some kind of official

Re: [Freedos-user] UltraDMA warning corrected

2016-01-14 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 1/14/2016 4:20 PM, Rugxulo wrote: >> Linus Torvalds heavily studied and used Minix sources, which was a >> UNIX (tm) clone. It was not free/libre at all, they were commercially >> selling it with their text book

Re: [Freedos-user] UltraDMA warning corrected

2016-01-14 Thread Ralf Quint
On 1/14/2016 4:20 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > Linus Torvalds heavily studied and used Minix sources, which was a > UNIX (tm) clone. It was not free/libre at all, they were commercially > selling it with their text book about OSes. Sorry, but that is not correct. Minix was distributed by Tanenbaum (who

Re: [Freedos-user] UltraDMA warning corrected

2016-01-13 Thread Louis Santillan
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > If Jack has reviewed the source code for MS-DOS HIMEM and MS-DOS > EMM386, then we should not use any memory manager written by him. I > see in the software list that we include these programs from Jack: > > BASE > UIDE >

Re: [Freedos-user] UltraDMA warning corrected

2016-01-13 Thread Jim Hall
I am concerned by this statement from Jack's email: "Take a look at the sources for Microsoft HIMEM or EMM386, as I have…" This is the first I was aware that Jack had reviewed any source code from Microsoft. If someone has studied the MS-DOS source code, that person should not contribute code to

Re: [Freedos-user] UltraDMA warning corrected

2016-01-13 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > I am concerned by this statement from Jack's email: "Take a look at > the sources for Microsoft HIMEM or EMM386, as I have…" This is the > first I was aware that Jack had reviewed any source code from > Microsoft. > > If

Re: [Freedos-user] UltraDMA warning corrected

2016-01-13 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Bret Johnson wrote: > I can certainly understand the paranoia from a totally volunteer organization > like FreeOOS, but there needs to be some reasonable perspective applied to > this at some point in time. Yes. IP disputes and claims of

Re: [Freedos-user] UltraDMA warning corrected

2016-01-13 Thread Don Flowers
wrote: > On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > > I am concerned by this statement from Jack's email: "Take a look at > > the sources for Microsoft HIMEM or EMM386, as I have…" This is the > > first I was aware that Jack had reviewed any source code from > >

Re: [Freedos-user] UltraDMA warning corrected

2016-01-13 Thread Bret Johnson
There's also a question of the timing, since I think Jack wrote and released those programs and source code before the MS-DOS source code was released (unless Jack had gotten access to some MS source code earlier than that). I also think Jack used to program for a living, though I'm not sure

Re: [Freedos-user] UltraDMA warning corrected

2016-01-13 Thread Ralf Quint
On 1/13/2016 5:13 PM, dmccunney wrote: > Do you really think MS will *care*? That doesn't matter. We should keep this project as clean as possible, just as a precaution. Problem is that a lot of people these days don't even know how DOS worked 20 years ago and hence might be tempted to look and

Re: [Freedos-user] UltraDMA warning corrected

2016-01-13 Thread Matt Rienzo
> Calling the BIOS on such a "new BIOS" mainboard WILL cause crashes Does this mean that FreeDOS will not boot at all on these systems or do you not mean BIOS interrupts? 73 Matt Rienzo W9ERA B.S.E.E | B.S. Music On Jan 13, 2016 1:25 AM, "Eric Auer" wrote: > > Jack writes: