Re: [Freedos-user] PNP ISA network card locks during early boot with P S/2 mouse connected

2016-05-14 Thread John Hupp
No, the BIOS offers little control. It seems the only influence I have is to choose Operating System: Other/Win95/Win98-NT5. I assume that this is a setting that controls whether or how the BIOS should configure PNP devices. On 5/14/2016 6:35 AM, Don Flowers wrote: Does you bios setup have

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-14 Thread John Hupp
I note that DOSLFN installs by default in FreeDOS 1.1, so if it is not kept then the FD 1.2 installer would have to accommodate. That's a shame about the MPXPLAY unknown license. It's my standard MP3 player. On 5/14/2016 9:22 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: Hello All, It took some doing.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-14 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello John and All, > I note that DOSLFN installs by default in FreeDOS 1.1, so if it is not kept > then the FD 1.2 installer would have to accommodate. At present, DOSLFN is not installed with BASE. However, It is installed under ALL. I was unable to determine it’s license. It may be BSD,

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-14 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello All, It took some doing. But, I have gone through all both the packages proposed for the FreeDOS 1.2 release. So, here are the changes that have been implemented. Some of these are listed even though it was decided beforehand that they were going to be pulled. One or two, have problems

Re: [Freedos-user] PNP ISA network card locks during early boot with PS/2 mouse connected

2016-05-14 Thread John Hupp
It does have 2 USB ports, though nothing is connected. The BIOS has no USB settings whatsoever, and there are no USB-related jumpers on the motherboard. I can use a PS/2 keyboard and mouse, but only if the PNP network card is not installed. In any case, the USB idea seems like a theory

Re: [Freedos-user] PNP ISA network card locks during early boot with PS/2 mouse connected

2016-05-14 Thread John Hupp
Well, I'm adding more facts without adding much more understanding. I removed the Realtek card and installed a 3Com PNP ISA network card instead. With a PS/2 mouse connected, it booted fine -- the ICU driver configured the 3Com and the mouse worked. So this seems to implicate the Realtek

Re: [Freedos-user] PNP ISA network card locks during early boot with PS/2 mouse connected

2016-05-14 Thread Ralf Quint
On 5/14/2016 4:09 PM, Eric Auer wrote: >> Bottom line is that PnP doesn't work (properly) for ISA cards... > Indeed, back in the time PnP was only a nice idea. You needed that > ICU software and it still was more hassle than non-PnP ISA cards > where you would just set the jumpers manually but at

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-14 Thread Thomas Mueller
Regarding packages to be dropped for failing LSM verification, I have some comments. I see ZOO listed in FreeBSD ports and NetBSD pkgsrc, open-source, but may be very little-used nowadays. PACIFICC is probably very outdated now, I never heard of TPPATCH and don't find it in NetBSD pkgsrc or

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-14 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > > It took some doing. But, I have gone through all both the packages proposed > for the FreeDOS 1.2 release. So, here are the changes that have been > implemented. Some of these are listed even though it

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-14 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello, > On May 14, 2016, at 9:45 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > In particular, some software is "GPLv2 only" while others are "GPLv2 > (or later)" or even "GPLv2 (only) or GPLv3 (only)”. I did not go into that fine of detail. But, someone should do that someday. > [It's a mess.]

Re: [Freedos-user] PNP ISA network card locks during early boot with PS/2 mouse connected

2016-05-14 Thread Ralf Quint
On 5/14/2016 10:11 AM, John Hupp wrote: > So I still don't see a firm conclusion to be drawn. Do some > motherboard BIOS's not know what to make of the Realtek card? Are > these Realtek cards poorly made? Or specially designed to be > configured under Windows (though that wouldn't explain

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-14 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > Anyhow, these are the problem packages and their probable destinies. > > ARCHIVER: > > ZOO - Includes sources, may be Public Domain. No License information. > Dropped. Zoo was Rahul Dhesi's open source archiver,

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 Package LSM Data Verification

2016-05-14 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 10:02 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: >> On May 14, 2016, at 9:45 PM, Rugxulo wrote: >> >>> BASE: >>> >>> No issues. >> >> Really? Did you double-check JEMM (JLOAD.EXE + *.JLM) and CuteMouse >> (COM2EXE.EXE) > > I did not

Re: [Freedos-user] PNP ISA network card locks during early boot with P S/2 mouse connected

2016-05-14 Thread Don Flowers
Does you bios setup have an option to allocate irq or memory for ISA? On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Bret Johnson wrote: > If your motherboard has USB built into it, it could be related to that. > The way Legacy USB Support works for mice and keyboards is that it puts the >

Re: [Freedos-user] PNP ISA network card locks during early boot with PS/2 mouse connected

2016-05-14 Thread Eric Auer
> Bottom line is that PnP doesn't work (properly) for ISA cards... Indeed, back in the time PnP was only a nice idea. You needed that ICU software and it still was more hassle than non-PnP ISA cards where you would just set the jumpers manually but at least the results were what you planned :-)