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On 2017-03-24 03:46, Dennis Fenton wrote:
> Read what I wrote. I burned the iso to a CD. I also downloaded the floppy
img. It do
From: Eric Auer
Hi Rugxulo,
> If you already have the original gold standard of DOSes, i.e. MS-DOS
> (which was widely tested and hugely popular, by far the most
> ubiquitous DOS), then you don't urgently "need" any other DOS
> clone at all all, period.
Being the most
From: userbeit...@abwesend.de
On 2017-03-24 03:46, Dennis Fenton wrote:
> Read what I wrote. I burned the iso to a CD. I also downloaded the floppy
img. It doesn't fit!
> So my first interaction on this forum is from someone who treats me like a
dummy. Perhaps another reason to say to Hell with
From: Rugxulo
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Eric Auer wrote:
>
> I disagree about FreeDOS being "not ready yet" or "no advantage to MS DOS".
If you already have the original gold standard of DOSes, i.e. MS-DOS
(which was widely tested and hugely
From: Ralf Quint
On 3/24/2017 4:36 PM, Dennis Fenton wrote:
> I want the fat32 in order to see drives and files on my win98 computer if I
use Laplink. I was also hoping FreeDOS will do a better job of getting Arachne
online. It reports low memory with MS-DOS. I have run
March 24, 2017 6:44 PM
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Hi,
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Dennis Fenton <dwf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I
From: Jerome Shidel
> On Mar 24, 2017, at 6:40 PM, Eric Auer wrote:
>
>
> Hi Dennis,
>
>> The 486 that I plan to use FreeDOS on currentlyrCA has MS-DOS 6.22 as
>> its only OS. My plan is to completely replace it but keep all my
>> installed programs.
ussion and general questions about FreeDOS.
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Dennis Fenton <dwf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The 486 that I plan to use FreeDOS on currentlyrCA has MS-DOS 6.22 as its
only OS.
> My
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ct: Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk
A backup on the same disk but different partitions
does not really help you if things go really wrong,
but as you say, data loss would be no real problem
for you... You should probably backup at least the
DOS SCSI drivers though ;-)
From: Dale E Sterner
Has anyone noticed that on Ebay someone is selling
a new HP mini with FREEDOS as its OS.
Straight from the factory with FREEDOS no setting up.
DS
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 20:32:15 -0500 Dennis Fenton
writes:
> After some research I
From: Eric Auer
A backup on the same disk but different partitions
does not really help you if things go really wrong,
but as you say, data loss would be no real problem
for you... You should probably backup at least the
DOS SCSI drivers though ;-) Jerome also mentioned
the
From: Rugxulo
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Dennis Fenton wrote:
>
> The 486 that I plan to use FreeDOS on currentlyrCA has MS-DOS 6.22 as its
only OS.
> My plan is to completely replace it but keep all my installed programs. The
SCSI
> drivers are
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>
> A backup on the same disk but different partitions
>
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>
> Hi Dennis,
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Hi Dennis,
> The 486 that I plan to use FreeDOS on currentlyrCA has MS-DOS 6.22 as
> its only OS. My plan is to completely replace it but keep all my
> installed programs. The SCSI drivers are all in C:\SCSI and I notice
> FreeDOS has its own equivalent of
ubject: Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk
Hi Dennis,
> The 486 that I plan to use FreeDOS on currentlyrCA has MS-DOS 6.22 as
> its only OS. My plan is to completely replace it but keep all my
> installed programs. The SCSI drivers are all in C:\SCSI and I notic
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Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk
> On Mar 23, 2017, at 11:56 PM, Felix Miata <mrma...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I just looked inside http://www.freedos.org/download/download/FD12FLOPPY.zip
> "boot floppy", and a 3.5&qu
ct: Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk
Hi Felix and Dennis,
> I just looked inside http://www.freedos.org/download/download/FD12FLOPPY.zip
> "boot floppy", and a 3.5" 1.44M floppy. My floppy has 1457664 total bytes,
2847
> 512 byte sectors. The image d
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From: Eric Auer
Hi Felix and Dennis,
> I just looked inside http://www.freedos.org/download/download/FD12FLOPPY.zip
> "boot floppy", and a 3.5" 1.44M floppy. My floppy has 1457664 total bytes,
2847
> 512 byte sectors. The image downloaded is 1474560 bytes, so the downloaded
ontheBellnetwork.
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[Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for
a disk
On 3/24/2017 5:42 AM, Dennis Fe
From: Jerome Shidel
A 1.44MB 3.5rCY DS HD floppy disk is 1,474,560 bytes when formatted. (2MB
unformatted)
It used 512 byte sectors, 18 sectors per track, 80 tracks per side and is/was a
two sided media.
512 * 18 * 80 * 2 = 1474560 / 1024 = 1.44MB floppy.
More information
x Miata <mrma...@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk
I just looked inside http://www.freedos.org/download/download/FD12FLOPPY.zip
"boot floppy", and a 3.5&qu
From: Jerome Shidel
> On Mar 23, 2017, at 11:56 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
>
> I just looked inside http://www.freedos.org/download/download/FD12FLOPPY.zip
> "boot floppy", and a 3.5" 1.44M floppy. My floppy has 1457664 total bytes,
2847
> 512 byte
From: dmccunney
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 9:32 PM, Dennis Fenton wrote:
> After some research I decided FreeDOS would be a good replacement for
> MS-DOS 6.22 on an old 486 I'm playing with.
> I downloaded and burned to CD the iso. I also downloaded
stions about FreeDOS.
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk
Hi,
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Felix Miata <mrma...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I just looked inside http://www.freedos.org/download/download/FD12FLOPPY.zip
> "boot floppy", and
From: Felix Miata
I just looked inside http://www.freedos.org/download/download/FD12FLOPPY.zip
"boot floppy", and a 3.5" 1.44M floppy. My floppy has 1457664 total bytes, 2847
512 byte sectors. The image downloaded is 1474560 bytes, so the downloaded
image
would not fit
From: Rugxulo
Hi,
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
>
> I just looked inside http://www.freedos.org/download/download/FD12FLOPPY.zip
> "boot floppy", and a 3.5" 1.44M floppy. My floppy has 1457664 total bytes,
2847
> 512 byte
reeDOS.
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Dennis Fenton composed on 2017-03-23 20:32 (UTC-0500):
> After some research I decided FreeDOS would be a good replacement for
>
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Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk
On 2017-03-24 03:46, Dennis Fenton wrote:
> Read what I wrote. I burned the iso to a CD. I also downloaded the floppy
> img. It doesn't fit!
> So my first in
On 2017-03-24 03:46, Dennis Fenton wrote:
> Read what I wrote. I burned the iso to a CD. I also downloaded the floppy
> img. It doesn't fit!
> So my first interaction on this forum is from someone who treats me like a
> dummy. Perhaps another reason to say to Hell with FreeDOS.
This is not
Hi, Eric,
This reply may be pointless, but I'm sure you understand where I'm
coming from. In no way am I pretending that MS-DOS is technically
superior or preferred. The weakest claim is only that it is "probably"
more compatible (which is unavoidable since it's the original). It is
dead and
You might have trouble with sound drivers. MS dos 7.1 wanted me to use
windows
to install one so that I could enjoy Windows but no windows to use.
FREEDOS doesn't care.
DS
On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 13:58:08 -0500 Dennis Fenton
writes:
> Thanks to everyone on the FreeDOS list who
Hi Rugxulo,
> If you already have the original gold standard of DOSes, i.e. MS-DOS
> (which was widely tested and hugely popular, by far the most
> ubiquitous DOS), then you don't urgently "need" any other DOS
> clone at all all, period.
Being the most widely used does not equal being the best.
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Eric Auer wrote:
>
> I disagree about FreeDOS being "not ready yet" or "no advantage to MS DOS".
If you already have the original gold standard of DOSes, i.e. MS-DOS
(which was widely tested and hugely popular, by far the most
ubiquitous
one on the Bell network.
> Original Message
> From: Eric Auer
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 7:21 PM
> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
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> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk
>
>
&g
A backup on the same disk but different partitions
does not really help you if things go really wrong,
but as you say, data loss would be no real problem
for you... You should probably backup at least the
DOS SCSI drivers though ;-) Jerome also mentioned
the drivers as being the most backup
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Hi,
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Dennis Fenton <dwf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I want the fat32 in order to see drives and files on
: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Dennis Fenton <dwf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The 486 that I plan to use FreeDOS on currently has MS-DOS 6.22 as its only
> OS.
> My plan is to completely replace it but keep all my
On 3/24/2017 4:36 PM, Dennis Fenton wrote:
> I want the fat32 in order to see drives and files on my win98 computer if I
> use Laplink. I was also hoping FreeDOS will do a better job of getting
> Arachne online. It reports low memory with MS-DOS. I have run memmaker
> several times.
Using FAT32
.
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Hi,
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Dennis
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Dennis Fenton wrote:
>
> The 486 that I plan to use FreeDOS on currently has MS-DOS 6.22 as its only
> OS.
> My plan is to completely replace it but keep all my installed programs. The
> SCSI
> drivers are all in C:\SCSI and I notice
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Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk
> On Mar 24, 2017, at 6:40 PM, Eric Auer &
> On Mar 24, 2017, at 6:40 PM, Eric Auer wrote:
>
>
> Hi Dennis,
>
>> The 486 that I plan to use FreeDOS on currently has MS-DOS 6.22 as
>> its only OS. My plan is to completely replace it but keep all my
>> installed programs. The SCSI drivers are all in C:\SCSI and I
Check!
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Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big
Hi Dennis,
> The 486 that I plan to use FreeDOS on currently has MS-DOS 6.22 as
> its only OS. My plan is to completely replace it but keep all my
> installed programs. The SCSI drivers are all in C:\SCSI and I notice
> FreeDOS has its own equivalent of MSCDEX.EXE.
Well in that case, you can
Hi Dennis,
> I downloaded and installed WinImage 9.0 on my win98 computer. It has a
> floppy drive. I successfully wrote the img file to a floppy.
> Another issue occurred to me. My cd-rom drive is a SCSI external type.
That might be a problem, depending on your SCSI controller
and whether it
: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk
On 3/24/2017 5:42 AM, Dennis Fenton
wrote:
I
was just trying to simply copy it. I get an insufficient space
message.
That is to be expected.
A disk image is exactly
On 3/23/2017 9:47 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
It is possible to format a floppy a bit over size. Most drives will
accommodate 2 to 4 extra tracks. Depending on the drive and the
controller it's possible to alter the number of sectors per track, but
all tracks must have the same number of
.From: Ralf QuintSent: Friday, March 24, 2017 12:15 PMTo: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.netReply To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS.Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big
On 3/24/2017 5:42 AM, Dennis Fenton wrote:
I was just trying to simply copy it. I get an insufficient space message.
That is to be expected.
A disk image is exactly that, a sector by sector image of EVERY sector
on the disk. That includes those of the boot sector (includes the
BPB-BIOS
Hi Felix and Dennis,
> I just looked inside http://www.freedos.org/download/download/FD12FLOPPY.zip
> "boot floppy", and a 3.5" 1.44M floppy. My floppy has 1457664 total bytes,
> 2847
> 512 byte sectors. The image downloaded is 1474560 bytes, so the downloaded
> image
> would not fit here
floppy disk image too big for a disk
> On Mar 23, 2017, at 11:56 PM, Felix Miata <mrma...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I just looked inside http://www.freedos.org/download/download/FD12FLOPPY.zip
> "boot floppy", and a 3.5" 1.44M floppy. My floppy has 1457664
] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk
Hi,
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Felix Miata <mrma...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I just looked inside http://www.freedos.org/download/download/FD12FLOPPY.zip
> "boot floppy", and a 3.5" 1.44M floppy. My floppy has 1457
questions about FreeDOS.Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a diskOn Mar 23, 2017 9:32 PM, "Dennis Fenton" <dwf...@gmail.com> wrote:After some research I decided FreeDOS would be a good replacement for...
To my dismay I found that the boot disk image is too big
Exactly
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Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too
> On Mar 23, 2017, at 11:56 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
>
> I just looked inside http://www.freedos.org/download/download/FD12FLOPPY.zip
> "boot floppy", and a 3.5" 1.44M floppy. My floppy has 1457664 total bytes,
> 2847
> 512 byte sectors. The image downloaded is 1474560
A 1.44MB 3.5” DS HD floppy disk is 1,474,560 bytes when formatted. (2MB
unformatted)
It used 512 byte sectors, 18 sectors per track, 80 tracks per side and is/was a
two sided media.
512 * 18 * 80 * 2 = 1474560 / 1024 = 1.44MB floppy.
More information on this can be found at
Hi,
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
>
> I just looked inside http://www.freedos.org/download/download/FD12FLOPPY.zip
> "boot floppy", and a 3.5" 1.44M floppy. My floppy has 1457664 total bytes,
> 2847
> 512 byte sectors. The image downloaded is
t;
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Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk
I just looked inside http://www.freedos.org/download/download/FD12FLOPPY.zip
"boot floppy", and a 3.5" 1.44M floppy. My floppy has
On Mar 23, 2017 9:32 PM, "Dennis Fenton" wrote:
After some research I decided FreeDOS would be a good replacement for
...
To my dismay I found that the boot disk image is too big to fit on a
1.44 floppy.
...
What program are you using to write the image to your floppy? Boot
I just looked inside http://www.freedos.org/download/download/FD12FLOPPY.zip
"boot floppy", and a 3.5" 1.44M floppy. My floppy has 1457664 total bytes, 2847
512 byte sectors. The image downloaded is 1474560 bytes, so the downloaded
image
would not fit here either.
-- "The wise are known for
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Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] boot floppy disk image too big for a disk
Dennis Fenton composed on 2017-03-23 20:32 (UTC-0500):
> After some research I decided FreeDOS would be a good replacement for
> MS-DOS 6.22 on an old 486 I'm playing wit
Dennis Fenton composed on 2017-03-23 20:32 (UTC-0500):
> After some research I decided FreeDOS would be a good replacement for
> MS-DOS 6.22 on an old 486 I'm playing with.
> I downloaded and burned to CD the iso. I also downloaded the boot
> floppy disk image because the old 486 will not boot
.
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