Re: [FRIAM] Off the wall question about turbulence

2023-11-28 Thread Roger Critchlow
Seems to me that if the design of household drains was sensitive to turbulence, someone would have figured out how to fix it in the 19th century. -- rec -- -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns

Re: [FRIAM] Off the wall question about turbulence

2023-11-28 Thread Carl Tollander
More I look at it... Looks like there were a lot of shortcuts in the wall. If they didn't make a clean-outable P trap, hmm, maybe they shortchanged the vent. I also notice the HVAC duct vent on the floor, suggesting somebody used the between-studs area as a way to move heat/cool around without

Re: [FRIAM] Off the wall question about turbulence

2023-11-28 Thread cody dooderson
I started a spreadsheet to keep track of all of these suggestions. Feel free to edit as you see fit. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e4wnqGcQiBh_-hZ2VF0jC892cqdoJOV97weprzwpgcg/edit?usp=sharing _ Cody Smith _ c...@simtable.com On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 2:06 PM Carl Tollander wrote: >

Re: [FRIAM] Off the wall question about turbulence

2023-11-28 Thread Carl Tollander
Go up on roof, make sure drain vent is not clogged by debris. Improper or badly installed drain venting slows things down a lot. Carl On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 7:42 AM Prof David West wrote: > When the washer drains, water flows for a bit, then you hear the pipe > filling up and water comes

Re: [FRIAM] Off the wall question about turbulence

2023-11-28 Thread Steve Smith
I like the "listening" ideation offered, I *have* used the temperature/tactility mode of holding my hand on a P-Trap to "feel" how the water flows... vibrations convolved with "coolth"...  usually filling the sink partway and holding the p-trap in my hand while I pull the plug and "feeling"

Re: [FRIAM] artificial clouds

2023-11-28 Thread Steve Smith
Great find... A microcosm, personal study of the experience I know ideating on high-dimensional visualization of pressure/temperature/humidity/particulate density spaces and their evolution by watching clouds form/disperse. @7:30 in the video, his exhibit is reminiscent of "old faithful"... 

Re: [FRIAM] Off the wall question about turbulence

2023-11-28 Thread cody dooderson
Maybe you could get a high speed x-ray camera and put some metal filings in your washing machine. _ Cody Smith _ c...@simtable.com On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 8:55 AM glen wrote: > Maybe. I was thinking you snake down to just prior to the trap. As long as > the fluid was clear, you might be able

Re: [FRIAM] Off the wall question about turbulence

2023-11-28 Thread Gary Schiltz
The snake would change the flow, making the experiment meaningless. Is that why you can’t see the value of a qbit without changing it? or something like that in the quantum realm? On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 9:02 AM glen wrote: > … > > You could also get one of those fancy snakes with a camera on

[FRIAM] artificial clouds

2023-11-28 Thread glen
I'm sure y'all have seen this already. But it was new to me. https://www.berndnaut.nl/works/molds/ https://youtu.be/GRHWCcOktHI - Smilde is a Dutch artist who has been creating artworks involving real clouds formed indoors since 2010. - The clouds are created using a fog machine and water