Re: [FRIAM] Deriving quantum theory from information processing axioms

2011-07-27 Thread Russ Abbott
I just looked at *Theory of Nothing* on Amazonhttp://www.amazon.com/Theory-Nothing-Russell-Standish/dp/1921019638. Two very nice reviews. Amazon's Look Inside doesn't show much, but the book looks very much worth reading. The Introduction talks about Schrodinger's cat. It had never occurred to me

Re: [FRIAM] Deriving quantum theory from information processing axioms

2011-07-27 Thread Russ Abbott
And speaking of multiverses, this was just published on the Scientific American websitehttp://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=multiverse-the-case-for-parallel-universe . *In the August issue of*Scientific American,* cosmologist George Ellis describes why he's skeptical about the

Re: [FRIAM] Deriving quantum theory from information processing axioms

2011-07-27 Thread ERIC P. CHARLES
Russ, That was actually a very good article! I remain amongst those skeptical that one can really test the theory, but it is nice to see the theory explained such a straightforward way, and to know there are people making solid attempts to test it. One major cop-out / overtly-overstated-claim

Re: [FRIAM] Deriving quantum theory from information processing axioms

2011-07-26 Thread Russ Abbott
I expected this to have more of an impact than it seems to be having. What am I missing? *-- Russ Abbott* *_* *** Professor, Computer Science* * California State University, Los Angeles* * Google voice: 747-*999-5105 * blog:

Re: [FRIAM] Deriving quantum theory from information processing axioms

2011-07-26 Thread Grant Holland
Russ, I had the same feeling about my recent missive - entitled Uncertainty vs Information - redux and resolution - in which I too make various claims about information theory. I believe I had only one response - from Eric. I expected more, maybe from Owen and Frank and yourself. The APS

Re: [FRIAM] Deriving quantum theory from information processing axioms

2011-07-26 Thread Rich Murray
As a universal layman, with a BS in physics and history from MIT in 1964, I have always been keenly interested as to the actual deep meaning of quantum theory. Can someone give a simple dynamic geometrical model which can embody these axioms, fleshing out their abstract meanings in a simple way,

Re: [FRIAM] Deriving quantum theory from information processing axioms

2011-07-26 Thread Russell Standish
Of course, I published a paper in 2004 (Why Occams Razor) doing essentially the same thing (I expanded on this somewhat in my 2006 book, Theory of Nothing). I would also say, that Lucien Hardy did something similar in 2001 (Quantum theory from five reasonable axioms). Also, there have been other

Re: [FRIAM] Deriving quantum theory from information processing axioms

2011-07-26 Thread Grant Holland
Exciting, Russ. I've downloaded your 2004 paper http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0001020v6, and will take a look. Thanks, Grant On 7/26/11 3:16 PM, Russell Standish wrote: Of course, I published a paper in 2004 (Why Occams Razor) doing essentially the same thing (I expanded on this somewhat in my

Re: [FRIAM] Deriving quantum theory from information processing axioms

2011-07-26 Thread Rich Murray
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/332557/title/Quantum_theory_gets_physical Quantum theory gets physical New work finds physical basis for quantum mechanics By Devin Powell Web edition : Tuesday, July 19th, 2011 Physicists in Canada and Italy have derived quantum mechanics from