On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Barry MacKichan
barry.mackic...@mackichan.com wrote:
Since I use a password manager (1Password) there is very little cost in
keeping a 20-character password (which I never type anyway) even for those
sites with 2-factor authentication.
Doesn't this make
I was always worried about that before I started LastPass, so I had already
turned off the feature of saving passwords in my browsers, and cleared out
already saved ones. That left me with having to remember passwords or writing
them down somewhere, or equally bad, storing them in a file
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 3:15 AM, Robert Holmes rob...@robertholmes.orgwrote:
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I must admit, this is the one issue that has kept me from adopting
1Password, LastPass etc. I'm lazy and I just know that at some point I
would hit the Save this password? button when prompted by my browser
I'm not grokking something then... I thought Barry's setup was automatic,
which is why he never had to enter his 20 character password?
On Apr 19, 2014 4:26 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote:
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 3:15 AM, Robert Holmes rob...@robertholmes.orgwrote:
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I must
The pw manager extensions (1password, lastpass etc) require a master
password to open them, the one password that rules them all.
Once open, the pw manager has a list of sites. You click on the one you
want. It goes to the appropriate URL and fills in the required fields to
log you into that
I *do* have to enter the master password for 1Password. From then on,
for all my accounts, it is automatic or, at the worst, copy and paste.
—Barry
On 19 Apr 2014, at 14:20, Owen Densmore wrote:
The pw manager extensions (1password, lastpass etc) require a master
password to open them, the
From: Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Password Change Requests
The pw manager extensions (1password, lastpass etc) require a master
On 04/18/2014 10:12 AM, Owen Densmore wrote:
In addition, lots of sites let you login with Google, Facebook, Twitter and
others. So if we have a small number of 2-factor providers, the hassle
would be minimized.
I reject the argument for centralization. It seems to me a
decentralized
On Fri, 2014-04-18 at 10:45 -0700, glen wrote:
Convenience is the _enemy_.
Convenience has a cost. Pay it. If there is to be centralization, use
economies of scale to detect and adapt to fraud rather try to prevent
it. I agree these schemes to find a trustworthy agent are doomed to
failure.
Convenience is the _enemy_.
Convenience has a cost. Pay it.
Integrity has a cost, pay it.
If there is to be centralization, use
economies of scale to detect and adapt to fraud rather try to prevent
it.
Very well stated. Evolved systems do precisely this (adapt and exploit
economies of
I use 2-factor authentication on those sites that implement it, but I
will not use a login from Google, for example, for anything besides
logging into Google (which I never do anyway). I don't want Google to
know every site I log into. I think it's creepy.
Since I use a password manager
On Fri, 2014-04-18 at 13:08 -0600, Steve Smith wrote:
As individuals with enlightened self interest it would seem to be in
our interest to understand how these things work and work *with* them
rather than continue to try to brute-force *engineer* these things.
In the social context, it is
On 04/18/2014 12:34 PM, Barry MacKichan wrote:
Since I use a password manager (1Password) there is very little cost in
keeping a 20-character password (which I never type anyway) even for
those sites with 2-factor authentication.
Speaking of which, does anyone here have any opinions about
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Barry MacKichan
barry.mackic...@mackichan.com wrote:
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Since I use a password manager (1Password) there is very little cost in
keeping a 20-character password (which I never type anyway) even for those
sites with 2-factor authentication.
—Barry
I too
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 05:34:43PM -0600, Owen Densmore wrote:
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Barry MacKichan
barry.mackic...@mackichan.com wrote:
...
Since I use a password manager (1Password) there is very little cost in
keeping a 20-character password (which I never type anyway)
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