Re: [FRIAM] speculative Q

2015-07-13 Thread Gary Schiltz
When you say “app”, I assume you’re talking about mobile; is that correct? Even if you consider all non-server software, even stuff that runs on desktops, I think it’s still pretty miniscule (I don’t have numbers to back it up). In my opinion, the reason that open source software has made so

Re: [FRIAM] speculative Q

2015-07-13 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 07:44:35PM -0600, Gillian Densmore wrote: Speculative Q: Anyone care to speculate why Open Source apps not have gotten much traction out side some exceptions? I ask because it'd seem like a business wouldn't want to use something where they couldn't see the code (for

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Cube Drone - - Relentless Persistence

2015-07-13 Thread Steve Smith
yup...     "where I'm from, the point of digging is not freedom from digging!"  fits much of this crew pretty well! I'll see your Snobol and raise you Griswolds next great thing: Icon ! For those of us who forget, sometimes, to laugh at

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Cube Drone - - Relentless Persistence

2015-07-13 Thread Joseph Spinden
Back in the day, Snobol was one of my favorite languages.. I used it once for a language processing program for a group at IBM, Yorktown. Joe On 7/13/15 11:12 AM, Steve Smith wrote: yup... where I'm from, the point of digging is not freedom from digging! fits much of this crew pretty

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Applets · NetLogo/NetLogo Wiki

2015-07-13 Thread Parks, Raymond
It's analagous to pets - you raise them (sometimes) from bottle-feeding and they live to old age - and they die long before you are ready. Sure, there are the occasional turtles and parrots that outlive their owners - COBOL has long outlived Grace Hopper - but most computer languages come and

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Applets · NetLogo/NetLogo Wiki

2015-07-13 Thread Bob Ballance
APL was the first actual interactive language that I had the pleasure of using. It sure beat card readers! SmallTalk was fun in that once programmers made the conceptual jump to objects, they really enjoyed programming in it. Maybe it was the sparsity of the language as compared to C++ that

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Applets · NetLogo/NetLogo Wiki

2015-07-13 Thread Parks, Raymond
In my case, I was asked to help the Comptrollers (Air Force speak for accountants) to optimize the code because they were using an IBM emulator on a Honeywell 6800 and their APL programs were bogging down the entire system. Oh, what tangled web we create, when first we try to emulate - or,

[FRIAM] Fwd: Cube Drone - - Relentless Persistence

2015-07-13 Thread Owen Densmore
For those of us who forget, sometimes, to laugh at JavaScript, the World's Weirdest Language (well, the was Snobol (StriNg Oriented and symBOlic Language): ​​ http://cube-drone.com/comics/c/relentless-persistence ​(Sorry if its sorta an in-joke)​ ​ -- Owen​

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Applets · NetLogo/NetLogo Wiki

2015-07-13 Thread Owen Densmore
I programmed in APL while at Xerox in the 70's. Although dangerous it was really fast to program in, especially as a domain specific language, so to speak. It got so that if you couldn't do a one-liner for anything you wanted to do, you'd be disappointed! Interestingly enough, it was the

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Applets · NetLogo/NetLogo Wiki

2015-07-13 Thread Gillian Densmore
One could say: thise.Day(Pine) print.out(arg YANFL); but the joke might not compile. On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Parks, Raymond rcpa...@sandia.gov wrote: In my case, I was asked to help the Comptrollers (Air Force speak for accountants) to optimize the code because they were using an

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Applets · NetLogo/NetLogo Wiki

2015-07-13 Thread Marcus Daniels
“Having said that well I for one can only speculate why java has/had a history of not caching on” Wot? http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html Btw, Web Assembly is just mimicking what .NET (and Mono) have been able to do for 10 years. From: Friam

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Applets · NetLogo/NetLogo Wiki

2015-07-13 Thread Gillian Densmore
Having said that well I for one can only speculate why java has/had a history of not caching on. Though I am amused how the web has managed to go full circle. Why do I say that, it seems as if the goal to applets and node is simillar to: DHTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_HTML DHTML,

[FRIAM] speculative Q

2015-07-13 Thread Gillian Densmore
Speculative Q: Anyone care to speculate why Open Source apps not have gotten much traction out side some exceptions? I ask because it'd seem like a business wouldn't want to use something where they couldn't see the code (for instance).