On 02/24/2014 06:08 PM, Gary Schiltz wrote:
Knowing the limits of one’s own knowledge is an admirable trait, i.e. the
more you know, the more you realize how much you don’t know. What really
gripes me are people who seem to get some kind of perverse pleasure in their
own ignorance. “Oh,
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On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 8:54 AM, glen g...@ropella.name wrote:
On 02/24/2014 06:08 PM, Gary Schiltz wrote:
Knowing the limits of one's own knowledge is an admirable trait, i.e.
the more you know, the more you realize how much you don't know. What
really gripes me are people who seem to
1. 2 is easy to ignore and move on from, but one (at least, I do) sincerely
wants 1 to get ahead.
I will reply regarding the UEFI thing later.
-Arlo James Barnes
FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at
Because I end up providing tech support, I suggest that they use what I use. I
use the cheapest technology, with the best future, that supports my existing
activity (i.e. legacy/backwards compatibility). By best future, I mean both
future-proofing (i.e. it won't transition to the backwards
On 02/22/2014 04:32 PM, Marcus G. Daniels wrote:
On 2/21/14 8:50 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:
But what? They really want to know.
If they don't know what they want, why do they want it?
Marcus' question is critical. Any answer I give will depend on their
answer to that.
On 02/21/2014 07:50
On 02/24/2014 10:12 AM, glen wrote:
Email? Buy your own domain name and a virtual private server from a
local hosting company ... again, have them install Debian on it for
you. Pay them to set it up, if you have to. Use that for your e-mail.
Well, it's less about grudges or even disagreements about business
practices or technology, and more about what you _learn_ from using a
service/tool. If the objective is to learn, which I argue it should be,
at least to some satisficing extent, then you want translucent
tools/services. If
On 2/24/14, 12:03 PM, glen wrote:
Well, it's less about grudges or even disagreements about business
practices or technology, and more about what you _learn_ from using a
service/tool. If the objective is to learn, which I argue it should
be, at least to some satisficing extent, then you
.aspx, so you can see the disdain before clicking ;)
I liked that post, it seemed sincere - but the (extensive) comments provide
more depth. You have people commenting that never use MS, always use MS, or
use a mix. In each of those categories, there are various levels of
animosity or lack
On 02/24/2014 11:27 AM, Marcus G. Daniels wrote:
Well, I want to know about compilers, because I depend on compilers for
my work. For me, a satisfactory understanding there is a higher bar
than understanding, say, how a car works. For that I can understand
enough to type the 1-800 number for
On 02/24/2014 01:00 PM, Arlo Barnes wrote:
but current things like UEFI deals (which gave me an annoying several
nights a few months back) and the all-or-nothing manner in which their
programs interact; because the community college here bought
institutional Office licenses, their
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 01:47:48PM -0700, Marcus G. Daniels wrote:
On 02/24/2014 01:00 PM, Arlo Barnes wrote:
but current things like UEFI deals (which gave me an annoying
several nights a few months back) and the all-or-nothing manner in
which their programs interact; because the community
On 02/24/2014 04:01 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
If and when it becomes important, I'll try to pick up a cheap
license from Microsoft, and install it in a Virtual Machine.
Isn't that the sane thing to do anyway? Secure booting into Linux?
Marcus
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 03:59:41PM -0700, Marcus G. Daniels wrote:
On 02/24/2014 04:01 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
If and when it becomes important, I'll try to pick up a cheap
license from Microsoft, and install it in a Virtual Machine.
Isn't that the sane thing to do anyway? Secure
On 02/24/2014 04:27 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
Not necessarily. Sometimes Linux on Windows is better, which I have
done occasionally.
Anyway, Apple hardware uses UEFI too, so it's a non-argument to blame
Microsoft for advocating that firmware standards should progress.
And the SteamOS game
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 04:36:46PM -0700, Marcus G. Daniels wrote:
On 02/24/2014 04:27 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
Not necessarily. Sometimes Linux on Windows is better, which I
have done occasionally.
Anyway, Apple hardware uses UEFI too, so it's a non-argument to
blame Microsoft for
Knowing the limits of one’s own knowledge is an admirable trait, i.e. the more
you know, the more you realize how much you don’t know. What really gripes me
are people who seem to get some kind of perverse pleasure in their own
ignorance. “Oh, that’s way too complex for me to understand” is not
On 2/21/14 8:50 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:
But what? They really want to know.
If they don't know what they want, why do they want it?
Marcus
FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's
Marcus/Ray -
I agree wholeheartedly with both of you. I've encountered more than
enough of both NIH and stubborn re-invention, especially in the Academia
and the National Lab context.
This has been one of my biggest challenges as a mentor of young people
who have *plenty* of book learning
Given all this, ... what would you prescribe for your family members who
are not particularly expert in these matters?
What computer/laptop, tablet, phone, email service, applications (assuming
they need at least one of an office suite), hosting service for their new
business, TV components,
On 2/20/14, 5:47 PM, Parks, Raymond wrote:
However, the practical engineer in me wants to scream whenever someone
reinvents stupid ways to do things.
It is indeed infuriating when someone makes no effort to learn about
what the state-of-the-art is and imposes their ignorance and
incompetence
On 2/18/14 7:31 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
So rather than knowing the names of the turtles all the way down, I
got to/had to make up names for them as I met them, and only later
discover that they had been named many times already.
It seems to me the folks that are given the names don't value the
Well said Carl!
+1 for spending some time on the ‘fundamentals’ but also an acknowledgement
that choosing the proper level of ‘fundamentals’ is also very important, and
indeed sometimes it is the outsider/maverick that makes new progress in a field
just because they don’t know the ‘proper’
The objective is not the essentialness or something borderline
metaphysical like that. The objective is to do a job with _whatever_
tools you find lying about. And to do that, you need to know enough
about the tools that do that job, and how they're used, so that you can:
a) use a different
Marcus -
My father, for better or worse, wanted/needed huge swaths of well
traveled territory to learn within. He went from Boy Scouts to Navy to
College to Civil Service, wearing uniforms much of that time, and
learning (by rote) the many standard forms they presented. It made him
feel
Who'd'a thought the initial post would make such an interesting
conversation! Love it.
-- Owen
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote:
Marcus -
My father, for better or worse, wanted/needed huge swaths of well traveled
territory to learn within. He went
What I think I'm hearing from Glen is that while it's nice to use power-planers
and router tables to shape wood, one should know how to use the right type of
hand-plane, chisels, and scrapers in case you lose electric power.
In terms closer to most on the list - programming in the scripting
On 02/17/2014 09:39 AM, Parks, Raymond wrote:
In both of my examples, learning the more primitive methods means that one
learns the foundational knowledge that makes using the modern methods easier
and higher in quality.
Precisely.
An additional point, though, is that survival across
On 2/17/14 10:39 AM, Parks, Raymond wrote:
What I think I'm hearing from Glen is that while it's nice to use
power-planers and router tables to shape wood, one should know how to
use the right type of hand-plane, chisels, and scrapers in case you
lose electric power.
In terms closer to most
On Feb 17, 2014, at 9:39 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote:
On 2/17/14 10:39 AM, Parks, Raymond wrote:
What I think I'm hearing from Glen is that while it's nice to use
power-planers and router tables to shape wood, one should know how to use
the right type of hand-plane, chisels, and
On 2/17/14 7:54 PM, Gary Schiltz wrote:
I think that being a hacker is a state of mind that naturally wants to
tear things apart to see how they work, and (hopefully) put them back
together again.
Java is an example of a language that can be compiled to be fast. When
Java isn't fast in the
What I think I'm hearing from Glen is that while it's nice to use
power-planers and router tables to shape wood, one should know how to
use the right type of hand-plane, chisels, and scrapers in case you
lose electric power.
Well, I dunno. Several points along these lines.
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