Re: [Futurework] Economic/psychological/emotional Choices

2003-11-25 Thread Darryl and Natalia
Thanks, Selma, That was delightful. Illusionsunto the abstract mind--the mind that seems only to ask, "How do I feel?" from moment to moment about anything. With this sole question running through every thought, it'sreasonable to consider, "You know, I don't really know what this thought is

[Futurework] The last shall be first?

2003-11-25 Thread Keith Hudson
As an entrepreneur myself -- worse, a serial entrepreneur -- I am fascinated by entrepreneurial activity, whether of the business variety or of other sorts (which I personally prefer). A recent report by the Global Entrepreneurship Monitor of the business start-ups in different countries has

Re: [Futurework] Hobbes

2003-11-25 Thread Ed Weick
Something that has always puzzled me about Hobbes: In what way does the writing he does profit him? In what way does the fact of his being a writer, philosopher, generator of ideas, support and validate the philosophy he writes about? Selma It's a long time since I've read any history

[Futurework] Two spanners in the three-state solution of Iraq

2003-11-25 Thread Keith Hudson
Good gracious! In the following New York Times op-ed, Leslie Gelb is proposing exactly the same solution that I have been advocating on this list at least twice in the last four months. This is that the good counsel that anthropology, evolutionary science and neuroscience could offer might

Re: [Futurework] Monday Yin and Yang

2003-11-25 Thread Ed Weick
One might look at it another way. With some six billion people on the face of a rapidly shrinking world, how else might we divide up work and meetneeds? It sounds cruel and inhuman, but for many millions, the alternatives may be far worse. Ed - Original Message - From:

Re: Slightly extended (was Re: [Futurework] David Ricardo, Caveman

2003-11-25 Thread Ed Weick
Pete, I am an amatuer at all of this, and you have obviously read more than I have. However, what I don't understand is why, if we had essentially modern brains 160kya, did it take us 80,000 to 100,000 years to demonstrate that we had those brains. I'll have to do more reading. Ed

Re: Slightly extended (was Re: [Futurework] David Ricardo, Caveman (fwd)

2003-11-25 Thread pete
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Ed Weick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pete, I am an amatuer at all of this, and you have obviously read more than I have. However, what I don't understand is why, if we had essentially modern brains 160kya, did it take us 80,000 to 100,000 years to demonstrate that we had

[Futurework] From Russia with sadness

2003-11-25 Thread Keith Hudson
181. From Russia with sadness I learned textual (not spoken) Russian 40 years ago when the firm I worked for (Courtaulds), were building a textile factory in Russia and we had to do some technical translations of our procedures. I didn't get very far with the Russian language, but enough to read

[Futurework] Debt

2003-11-25 Thread Harry Pollard
Title: Debt Hi! From the Economist: However, embodied in current tax and expenditure policies are a lot of obligations for which governments have not yet had to make explicit provision. This implicit liability arises mainly from future increases in spending on pensions and health

RE: Slightly extended (was Re: [Futurework] David Ricardo, Caveman Trade vs. Modern Trade

2003-11-25 Thread Harry Pollard
Ed, Quite right, Ed. Otherwise they wouldn't be applied. But the question concerned right and wrong fixes, not what people think are the right fixes. Harry Henry George School of Social Science of Los Angeles Box 655 Tujunga CA 91042 Tel:

[Futurework] web site

2003-11-25 Thread Cordell . Arthur
This may have been posted earlier, but here it is again. The web site that seems to speak for Rumsfelfd, and company. http://www.newamericancentury.org/ ___ Futurework mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Slightly extended (was Re: [Futurework] David Ricardo, Cavema n Trade vs. Modern Trade

2003-11-25 Thread Harry Pollard
Arthur, Problem is that instead of looking for the cause of the rising inequalities, the left winger looks for ways to take from the rich and give to the poor. If the rich person deserves his higher income because he's earned it, the state has onlythe coercive right of robbery to take

Re: [Futurework] Before you can reinvent or revive an ideal...

2003-11-25 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
What will happen, and you can remember that I said it. The first family to get drug resistant TB and spread it around on the subway will be the beginning of the end of that. It will happen slowly as it spreads and eventually some rich child will get it or maybe a President's child in

RE: Slightly extended (was Re: [Futurework] David Ricardo, Cavema n Trade vs. Modern Trade

2003-11-25 Thread Cordell . Arthur
What sort of privilege did you have in mind for elimination? Inheritance? License to practice law? License to practice medicine? -Original Message-From: Harry Pollard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:17 PMTo: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL

Re: Slightly extended (was Re: [Futurework] David Ricardo, Caveman (fwd)

2003-11-25 Thread Ed Weick
Thanks, Pete, but I'm not sure I really agree, especially with your argument about itall depending on the slow accumulation of culture and about it taking a long time to invent and diffuse things like fish hooks and needles. Sorry, but I believe Homo sapiens is brighter and fasterthan that.

[Futurework] Downshifting to a better work-life balance

2003-11-25 Thread Keith Hudson
May I very briefly recap (three paragraphs) on what I think evolutionary economics is saying to us today? - 1. It says that new consumer goods throughout the whole course of our economic history have been bought mainly for reasons of status, not need. However, as the repertoire of bought

Re: [Futurework] Debt

2003-11-25 Thread Ed Weick
Title: Debt Yes, Harry, Canada does look bad, but we have been achieving budgetary surpluses lately and trying to pay down the debt. Ed - Original Message - From: Harry Pollard To: "Futurework" Cc: 'Keith Hudson' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 'Ed Weick' Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Slightly extended (was Re: [Futurework] David Ricardo, Caveman (fwd)

2003-11-25 Thread Keith Hudson
At 15:40 25/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: Thanks, Pete, but I'm not sure I really agree, especially with your argument about it all depending on the slow accumulation of culture and about it taking a long time to invent and diffuse things like fish hooks and needles. Sorry, but I believe Homo

RE: [Futurework] The terrorist attacks in Istanbul

2003-11-25 Thread Harry Pollard
Keith, Very good analysis, but let me introduce another thought. It seems to me that if the Middle East is left alone nothing much will change except, perhaps, present regimes may be replaced by revolutionary leadership. However, even this is no more than conjecture. We simply don't know. We

[Futurework] RE: Miscellaneous

2003-11-25 Thread Harry Pollard
Sorry Keith, Didn't mean to give a wrong impression. I remember eons ago, a friend talking of his elderly Scot's mother saying as she aged her Scottish speech became thicker and thicker - almost beyond understanding. That's probably happening to me. On radio, the accent was very useful as

RE: Slightly extended (was Re: [Futurework] David Ricardo, Cavema n Trade vs. Modern Trade

2003-11-25 Thread Harry Pollard
Arthur, I'm falling behind in replying to you, but I'll catch up. So many remarks about a simple and sensible statement. If each member of a community is better off, is it difficult toconcede that the community (of people) is better off? Ray didn't like "better off" (def: In a more

Re: [Futurework] Downshifting to a better work-life balance

2003-11-25 Thread Ed Weick
Keith, I just want to make a brief comment on one of your points because it's always bother me a little. The point it: new consumer goods throughout the whole course of our economic history have been bought mainly for reasons of status, not need. However, as the repertoire of bought

Re: Slightly extended (was Re: [Futurework] David Ricardo, Caveman (fwd)

2003-11-25 Thread Ed Weick
Keith, I miff easily but have a tremendous capacity for recovery. You hadn't even begun to enter the realm or the "to be forgiven if you kneel before me". I think that, as we've donemany times before,we have to end this at our usual impasse. I recognize the significance of the frontal

RE: Slightly extended (was Re: [Futurework] David Ricardo, Cavema n Trade vs. Modern Trade

2003-11-25 Thread Christoph Reuss
Harry Pollard claimed: (Chris thinks the US is a free trading country with an internal free market, but then he thinks some very peculiar things.) It's a pity that Harry can only make his points by misrepresenting me. I am well aware of the US double standards of demanding FT from others while

[Futurework] FT of security... (was Re: E.European Women discover the Joys of Free Trade)

2003-11-25 Thread Christoph Reuss
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Arthur Cordell wrote: Public goods--something that everyone wants/needs but the market will not supply on its own since there are problems with appropriation of benefits. Polio vaccine, flu vaccine, fire department (except for Harry who seems able to save his own house

Re: [Futurework] Talmud vs. Science (or Censorship thereof)

2003-11-25 Thread Christoph Reuss
http://www.guardian.co.uk/genes/article/0,2763,605806,00.html Journal axes gene research on Jews and Palestinians Robin McKie, science editor Sunday November 25, 2001 The Observer A keynote research paper showing that Middle Eastern Jews and Palestinians are genetically almost

Re: Slightly extended (was Re: [Futurework] David Ricardo, Cavema n Trade vs. Modern Trade

2003-11-25 Thread Ray Evans Harrell
Harry said: If each member of a community is better off, is it difficult toconcede that the community (of people) is better off? Because wealthy communities don't necessarily do good things. Good works and great civilization is what seduced me from the pleasures of the