Condition Visible does not seem to work when xcompmgr is running.
Hello, I posted about this issue on the fvwm forum at fvwm.lair.be and got redirected here. I would like to auto-iconify windows that are not visible on the screen anymore (i.e. the got totally overlapped by other windows). However the following code, does not work when xcompmgr is running at the same time: --begin-- All (CurrentPage, !Visible) Iconify True --end-- I have also tried running xcompmgr with different arguments, but with no effect. The Visible condition works perfectly if xcompmgr is not running though. I do not know if it is FVWM or xcompmgr that is at fault. I use fvwm 2.5.21 (with support for: ReadLine, Stroke, XPM, PNG, Shape, XShm, SM, Bidi text, Xinerama, XRender, XFT, NLS), xorg-server 1.3.0. Regards, Michał Kazior.
Re: Condition Visible does not seem to work when xcompmgr is running.
On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 09:52:46PM +0200, Micha?? Kazior wrote: Hello, I posted about this issue on the fvwm forum at fvwm.lair.be and got redirected here. I would like to auto-iconify windows that are not visible on the screen anymore (i.e. the got totally overlapped by other windows). However the following code, does not work when xcompmgr is running at the same time: --begin-- All (CurrentPage, !Visible) Iconify True --end-- I have also tried running xcompmgr with different arguments, but with no effect. The Visible condition works perfectly if xcompmgr is not running though. I do not know if it is FVWM or xcompmgr that is at fault. I can only guess that xcompmgr suppresses VisibilityNotify events for windows. I use fvwm 2.5.21 (with support for: ReadLine, Stroke, XPM, PNG, Shape, XShm, SM, Bidi text, Xinerama, XRender, XFT, NLS), xorg-server 1.3.0. Ciao Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt, dominik.vogt (at) gmx.de signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Condition Visible does not seem to work when xcompmgr is running.
On 02Jul2007 22:32, Dominik Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | The Visible condition works perfectly if xcompmgr is not running | though. I do not know if it is FVWM or xcompmgr that is at fault. | | I can only guess that xcompmgr suppresses VisibilityNotify events | for windows. I expect the behind windows are Visible because they are needed for transparency - alpha compositing will require the window to maintain its entire surface as though it were on top. -- Cameron Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ Hello, my name is Yog-Sothoth, and I'll be your eldritch horror today. - Heather Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Gnome panel logout button
On Sun, 2007-07-01 at 12:03 +0200, Harald Kirsch wrote: Am 30.06.2007 22:14 schrieb Thomas Adam: On 30/06/07, Harald Kirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is but one thing that does not work. The panel can be configure to have this big red Log off button. When I press it, it seems that only the panel exits. Because you haven't told FVWM (or rather the GNOME framework0 that the specified window manager needs to run under a session manager. Hmm, how would I do so? In the ubuntu gdm start screen I only selected FVWM instead of GNOME session and when I look at the output of ps, I find /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session fvwm So what would be necessary to get the red log-off button on the gnome-panel working with fvwm? You need to replace it with a launcher that runs FvwmCommand Quit You'll also need to ensure that Module FvwmCommandS is started at init. Thanks, Harald. PS: Apart from crippled metacity, one reason to go back to fvwm after starting to use gnome, was the braindead session stuff: log out and then in again and be surprised which applications are started. There was some correlation with what I left running when closing X, but only some. Consequently I am not sure if I want any session-business at all. -- There's No Future In Time Travel. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: FVWM: Gnome panel logout button
On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 04:32:50PM +1000, Chris Debenham wrote: On Sun, 2007-07-01 at 12:03 +0200, Harald Kirsch wrote: Am 30.06.2007 22:14 schrieb Thomas Adam: On 30/06/07, Harald Kirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is but one thing that does not work. The panel can be configure to have this big red Log off button. When I press it, it seems that only the panel exits. Because you haven't told FVWM (or rather the GNOME framework0 that the specified window manager needs to run under a session manager. Hmm, how would I do so? In the ubuntu gdm start screen I only selected FVWM instead of GNOME session and when I look at the output of ps, I find /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session fvwm So what would be necessary to get the red log-off button on the gnome-panel working with fvwm? You need to replace it with a launcher that runs FvwmCommand Quit You'll also need to ensure that Module FvwmCommandS is started at init. Or you can start fvwm as the window manager of gnome. You can achieve that by: 1. Starting gnome (i.e. selecting gnome in the gdm screen) 2. Issuing a 'fvwm --replace' in a terminal 3. Saving the gnome session (Sorry, I don't remember where this option was, somewhere in the gnome configuration options). You can also deactivate the automatic session saving stuff and other annoying things of gnome. For me this works quite well. BTW, what does the option '--sm-disable' do? Cheers, David -- David Vilar Torres RWTH Aachen Tel: (+49) 241 80 21611 Lehrstuhl f. Informatik 6 Fax: (+49) 241 80 22219 Ahornstr. 55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] D-52056 Aachen (Germany)
Re: FVWM: Gnome panel logout button
Am 02.07.2007 10:47 schrieb David Vilar: BTW, what does the option '--sm-disable' do? To be honest, I have no clue. This is a relict of my first attempts to get some gnome services, like the gnome-panel, to work under fvwm. The manual says Disable connection to session manager. And since I think this session manager thing is merely trying to be helpful rathern than being helpful, I thought to keep it as uninformed as possible.-) Cheers, Harald. -- --+- Harald Kirsch | pifpafpuf bei gmx punkt de
Re: FVWM: fvwm-snap-20070624: make install fails without --enable-html
Harald Dunkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi folks, I had already sent this to fvwm-workers, but without luck. Anybody reading this list? Lots of people are reading this list. Patches get applied but most of people with commit priviledges seem to be busy lately. I know I am. Be patient. -- Dan Espen E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Gnome panel logout button
Harald Kirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am 02.07.2007 10:47 schrieb David Vilar: BTW, what does the option '--sm-disable' do? To be honest, I have no clue. This is a relict of my first attempts to get some gnome services, like the gnome-panel, to work under fvwm. The manual says Disable connection to session manager. And since I think this session manager thing is merely trying to be helpful rathern than being helpful, I thought to keep it as uninformed as possible.-) The session manager remembers applications you were running when you shut down and restarts them when you start up. Not something I would use. -- Dan Espen E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Gnome panel logout button
Am 02.07.2007 16:41 schrieb Thomas Adam: Needs updating a tad, but: http://linuxgazette.net/100/adam.html Nice article. To cite: Session management allows the state of applications that are running to be saved and remembered. So that the computer behaves like my desk. If I leave the room and come back later, it is in the same mess as I left it.-( This is certainly a matter of taste, but I personally don't like this ideas. I want to define the initial setup of applications explicitely (StartFunction) and don't want just any odd incoherent state be resurrected. Viele Grüße, Harald. -- --+- Harald Kirsch | pifpafpuf bei gmx punkt de
