[G] Mac future II

2006-02-21 Thread Peter Udbjørg
From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [G] Mac future Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:58:41 -0700 First of all, thanx for a well-written answer to my speculations. However, I think I need to add a bit to your otherwise eloquent musings: [...] And what about viruses? Rumors (or

[G] Mac future III

2006-02-21 Thread Peter Udbjørg
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:11:11 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [G] Mac future At 12:35 PM +0100 02/20/2006, Peter Udbj=F8rg wrote: Found this laying in my drafts folder in Mail. Amazing what accumulates there, eh?

[G] Wrong quotes

2006-02-21 Thread Peter Udbjørg
Den 20. feb. 2006 kl. 21.42 skrev G-List: On Feb 20, 2006, at 3:35 AM, Peter Udbj=F8rg wrote: Work with the developer/hacker/user community for a year or two, to build a base of ad-hoc supported systems. Then, as the market- share begins to explode, jump in with both feet. (Dylan McDermond)

Re: [G] Mac future

2006-02-21 Thread Peter Udbjørg
Den 20. feb. 2006 kl. 21.42 skrev G-List: Subject: Re: [G] Mac future Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dvorak: Will Apple adopt Windows? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,185221,00.html Holding my ears . . Tom Meade Pacific Palisades This Dvorak guy should go and boil his head. Apple with

Re: [G] Sherlock

2006-02-21 Thread Peter Udbjørg
Den 21. feb. 2006 kl. 01.40 skrev G-List: Seriously - about using the old Sherlock - though: you can still use it. I fired up Classic and chose my Sherlock 1 and found things with it. It is lovely! You need to put the app in the applications folder along with all your 9 stuff. At least that is

Re: [G] Mac future

2006-02-21 Thread Adrian Abraham
On Feb 21, 2006, at 6:53 PM, Peter Udbjørg wrote: This Dvorak guy should go and boil his head. Apple with windoze = apple down the tubes. I do not foresee Jobs doing such a stupid thing. Relax, he's been doing this song and dance thing for years, I consider Dvorak good entertainment and

Re: [G] Mac future

2006-02-21 Thread Chris Placzek
Do I think OS X will run on a PS3? Im not exactly the person to ask. But my opinion, it should reasonable. There is plenty of processing power, and it is PPC. One possible way I see of going about this is to install Linux on it. There are Linux versions for the Play Station Portable, as

Re: [G] Mac future II

2006-02-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 21, 2006, at 2:33 AM, Peter Udbjørg wrote: I have come across speculations here on the G-list. Speculations, not rumors, that is. Something to the effect that equal instructions set = equal opportunity for virus writers. No matter if X is Unix and Longhorn/Vista/Whatever is

Re: [G] Sherlock in X

2006-02-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 20, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Dan K wrote: rant Blankity-blank Spotlight - all I want is to find files and I don't need a list by default showing me only the top 4 (or whatever!) hits from a confounded search making me click more links unnecessarily complicating something as simple as a

Re: [G] Sherlock in X

2006-02-21 Thread Doug McNutt
At 22:30 -0500 2/20/06, Dan K wrote: Loverly idea that, but since I truly dislike Sherlock 2 (though not as much as I dislike Spotlight), I just dug out Sherlock 1 which works as great as ever (under 10.3.9's Classic of course.) In OS9 - on this 8500 - I can still index a disk with Sherlock and

Re: [G] ClamshellLoosesTime/Date

2006-02-21 Thread Spamnomaam
Bruce, what do you mean by especially if it sleeps? I keep my iBook plugged in and sleeping most of the time. The battery is almost shot but it hasn't lost time and date yet. (It is the original battery from July '01 dual usb 500.) Are you saying keeping it asleep most of the time is worse

Re: [G] Biege G3 as a server

2006-02-21 Thread Clark Martin
At 3:33 PM + 2/21/06, Ivan wrote: Hi fellow listers, I'm thinking about using my old biege G3 300mhz as a web server, installing Jaguar or Panther (with XPostfacto) on it. Do any listers have any experience of using a similar set-up and how did it work out? I'd like to know what server

Re: [G] Mac future III

2006-02-21 Thread Steven Wood
Just to reinforce the comment on corporate purchases and their price focus--the vast majority of corporate purchasing departments consider only first cost, that is, what the box costs off the shelf. Apple has tried with some success to show such limited-vision people (especially companies

Re: [G] L3 cache and G4 upgrades

2006-02-21 Thread Dan K
Anand Keathley [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks: Apple says that the G5s need no L3 cache because of the speed of its Bus which is usually 1GHz. I'm running an AGP (Sawtooth) with a bus speed of 100MHz so I would guess that having an L3 cache would be a good idea. However I also would guess it

Re: [G] Biege G3 as a server

2006-02-21 Thread James Rice
Clark Martin wrote: At 3:33 PM + 2/21/06, Ivan wrote: Hi fellow listers, I'm thinking about using my old biege G3 300mhz as a web server, installing Jaguar or Panther (with XPostfacto) on it. Do any listers have any experience of using a similar set-up and how did it work out? I'd like

Re: [G] Sherlock in X

2006-02-21 Thread Dan K
I wrote: Can't wait to toss it onto my Tigerized 12 PowerBook. Boy-oh-boy I hope it works there too, because . . . Sherlock 1 works fine on my 12 PB under Tiger/Classic. Also, I fired up Sherlock 2 under Panther/Classic and it hollered a warning about not being ideal, but gave the option to

Re: [G] Sherlock in X

2006-02-21 Thread Dan K
I wrote: I just dug out Sherlock 1 which works as great as ever about which Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: How does it like long filenames and such? Same as OS9, truncates and uses 'unique' gobbiltygook for the last part of the name (eg: namenamenamename#344FBB.) David Elmo also piped up:

[G] Antivirus false positives

2006-02-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
At least two AV vendors, Sophos and Norton, seem to be throwing numerous false positives for the Bluetooth virus identified last week, which Sophos calls OSX/Inqtana-B. I know about Sophos from direct experience, another admin on campus has heard about it through another mailing list.

Re: [G] Antivirus false positives

2006-02-21 Thread Daniel
On Feb 21, 2006, at 13:39, Bruce Johnson wrote: At least two AV vendors, Sophos and Norton, seem to be throwing numerous false positives for the Bluetooth virus identified last week, which Sophos calls OSX/Inqtana-B. I know about Sophos from direct experience, another admin on campus has

Re: [G] Biege G3 as a server (fao Clark Martin)

2006-02-21 Thread Ivan
Thanks for the info Clark, can I have some more? You say you had problems with osX, what rev were/are the G3's you tried it on? My beige (got the spelling right this time) has a rev 3 board. Were yours earlier versions, hence the trouble? Can you tell me what set-up you have on the machine

[G] G5 stuck in Jaguar.7

2006-02-21 Thread TVirkkala
I've a friend who wanted to upgrade his o.s. to take advantage of the latest iTunes. He has the first G5 Mac. I had told him it should be no trouble to get to the highest version of the o.s. he was running. But then I actually went to Apple and learned that Jaguar 10.2.8 is for Macs ACCEPT

Re: [G] Biege G3 as a server (fao Clark Martin)

2006-02-21 Thread TVirkkala
This subject interests me, in that I was thinking of moving my main Mac from the current G3 AIO (Molar) setup running (flawlessly!) Panther to a G3 Beige Server. I'd maxed out the memory on the Molar, and was thinking of switching it to the Server. Should I expect trouble? I sure hope not!

Re: [G] Antivirus false positives

2006-02-21 Thread Nancy Haitz
Nancy wrote: I don't get any alarming messages from them when something like OSX/Inqtana-B comes out. The definitions just quietly show up in the next definitions update/download. Bruce wrote: Until one of their definitions erroneously flags a common program component as a virus, which is

Re: [G] Internet Explorer Question

2006-02-21 Thread david_elmo
From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Feb 20, 2006, at 3:47 PM, david_elmo wrote: From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Feb 19, 2006, at 5:39 PM, david_elmo wrote: From: David Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guess I should have tried it before sending the last message. iCab didn't

Re: [G] Internet Explorer Question

2006-02-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 21, 2006, at 3:17 PM, david_elmo wrote: Well, hang on! Did you open them too in say Photoshop? (Not saying you did not, just that _this_ is the bit that failed for me from the archive). Plus, no inadvertant tricks going on? ie. you being online the url in the archive version is

Re: [G] Internet Explorer Question

2006-02-21 Thread david_elmo
From: David Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] What I sent was a live link, ...which is relevant to this discussion insofar as it shows the type of page you are talking about. You, I take it, are concerned with archived material on your own computor (off line) that is NOT on the net anymore. If

Re: [G] Sherlock

2006-02-21 Thread david_elmo
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peter_Udbj=F8rg?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Den 21. feb. 2006 kl. 01.40 skrev G-List: Seriously - about using the old Sherlock - though: you can still use it. I fired up Classic and chose my Sherlock 1 and found things with it. It is lovely! You need to put the app in the

Re: [G] Biege G3 as a server (fao Clark Martin)

2006-02-21 Thread Clark Martin
At 7:41 PM + 2/21/06, Ivan wrote: Thanks for the info Clark, can I have some more? You say you had problems with osX, what rev were/are the G3's you tried it on? My beige (got the spelling right this time) has a rev 3 board. Were yours earlier versions, hence the trouble? Can you tell me

Re: [G] Biege G3 as a server (fao Clark Martin)

2006-02-21 Thread James Rice
Clark Martin wrote: I don't know what versions the MB and ROMS are. It's something I'm investigating at the moment. The Beige I'm running as a server under OS9 is running IPNetRouter to provide MacIP for the older Macs and XTension, a home control program. I'm also running Personal Web

Re: [G] Biege G3 as a server (fao Clark Martin)

2006-02-21 Thread Clark Martin
At 5:53 PM -0600 2/21/06, James Rice wrote: Clark Martin wrote: I don't know what versions the MB and ROMS are. It's something I'm investigating at the moment. The Beige I'm running as a server under OS9 is running IPNetRouter to provide MacIP for the older Macs and XTension, a home

Re: [G] G5 stuck in Jaguar.7

2006-02-21 Thread Kris Tilford
They made a special version of 10.2.8 for G5's: http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosxupdateg5.html -- G-List is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- We have Apple Refurbished Monitors in stock! | CDRWs

Re: [G] G5 stuck in Jaguar.7

2006-02-21 Thread TVirkkala
Wow... They made a special version of 10.2.8 for G5's: http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosxupdateg5.html ...thanks! t -- G-List is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- We have Apple Refurbished

[G] Voice recognition software

2006-02-21 Thread CR
I'm wondering if anyone can comment on the current state of the art voice recognition software runnable on my Mini with Tiger. And, if it's worth it, where might I likely get a demonstration? Web site? Local university Thanks, Cliff -- G-List is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and...

Re: [G] New Member with a question

2006-02-21 Thread GLENSTREK
In a message Ginny Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks, Glen, for the Iomega Manual, but does this apply to all the drives (the 100, 250 the new 750?) I understand that the sleds, or platforms, that hold them are different sizes, the 3 1/2 incher being smaller than the others. Is this

Re: [G] Sherlock in X

2006-02-21 Thread david_elmo
From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you tried Finder's File Find command in OS X 10.4? It uses the Spotlight database to do exactly thatand hey, that menu command's only been there since, oh 1984 or so :-P You mean the one that comes up with command + f? The one that when you

Re: [G] Voice recognition software

2006-02-21 Thread Fabian Fang
On Feb 21, 2006, at 4:26 PM, CR wrote: I'm wondering if anyone can comment on the current state of the art voice recognition software runnable on my Mini with Tiger. And, if it's worth it, where might I likely get a demonstration? Web site? Local university Check out iListen from

[G] Sawtoof board

2006-02-21 Thread R. A. Cantrell
Listasaurs, I Have a dead Sawtooth. I think it is the MoBo. I replaced the cpu, to no avail. The machine responds to the power button, the fan and the drives spin up, but no gong. I've stripped out everything and re built one item at a time, but no go. The red led at j55 lights up

Re: [G] Sawtoof board

2006-02-21 Thread Clark Martin
At 8:17 PM -0600 2/21/06, R. A. Cantrell wrote: Listasaurs, I Have a dead Sawtooth. I think it is the MoBo. I replaced the cpu, to no avail. The machine responds to the power button, the fan and the drives spin up, but no gong. I've stripped out everything and re built one item

Re: [G] Sawtoof board

2006-02-21 Thread R. A. Cantrell
on 2/21/06 8:26 PM, Clark Martin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, what about the battery? And the PMU reset button? I have done the re-set, and I have tried with the battery in, the battery out. The battery shows 3.7v. Is there a particular sequence or what not for the re-set button on the

Re: [G] Sawtoof board

2006-02-21 Thread R. A. Cantrell
on 2/21/06 8:17 PM, R. A. Cantrell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The red led at j55 lights up on the board, but no gonging. Can I say Its the board, and move forward, or are there some more tricks to try? The red led is at d-55, not j-55 as previously reported. Am I correct in assuming that if

Re: [G] Sawtoof board

2006-02-21 Thread Clark Martin
At 8:53 PM -0600 2/21/06, R. A. Cantrell wrote: on 2/21/06 8:26 PM, Clark Martin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, what about the battery? And the PMU reset button? I have done the re-set, and I have tried with the battery in, the battery out. The battery shows 3.7v. Is there a particular

Re: [G] Another newbie with a question (grey screen?)

2006-02-21 Thread Geno
I know Panther is very particular about ram memory. If you have a hardware test cd, you can boot from the cd and check the memory. Sans this you could always pull some memory from your working AGP and replace the 2-128 Kingston sticks. I had quite a few sticks of ram that wouldn't work with

Re: [G] Sawtoof board

2006-02-21 Thread Chris Placzek
You should carefully inspect the pins of the processor socket. They commonly get bent, as they are very fragile. Actually, what was going on prior to the board failing? Did it just refuse to start one day? Or did you buy it dead? Chris P Clark Martin wrote on 2/21/06, 10:09 PM: At