Apologies for cross posting!
This is the second announcement of the 7th Annual E-Lister's SBL meeting
on Saturday, November 22nd, at 11 am the Gramcord Booth (Booth 501 in
International Hall South, Exhibition Level)
As I noted in my first announcement, I'd like to get an advance head
count of
The 17 Nov. Orion Center Current Bibliography lists a new publication, twlygm,
vol. 1 (2003).
Perhaps someone on the list could tell us more about it, such as its scope,
publisher, editors, ISSN. Thanks.
http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il/bib/current.shtml
Stephen Goranson
Dear Qumranikoi,
I've agreed to do a brief survey of the field of Qumran/Dead Sea
Scrolls studies, covering the period 1998 to the present, for the
American Journal of Archaeology. I would be very grateful if readers
would help me out by sending me information on the following:
1.
A significant article that has been little-noted in online Qumran discussion:
Israel Carmi, Are the 14C Dates of the Dead Sea Scrolls Affected by Castor
Oil Contamination? Radiocarbon 44 (2002) 213-216.
Carmi presents a four-point critique of K.L. Rasmussen et al., The Effects of
Possible
The message below is forwarded from ane-list. For description of the second
book, Stephen Pfann's English presentation of R. de Vaux's dig notes, click on
the URL below.
Stephen Goranson
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 19:38:31 -0600
From: Jack Sasson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dear List Participants,
4Q247 frag. 1, col. 1, line 7 mentions v ha sofer im zahar vim
nekiva Does it really means woman-scribe as Eisenman and Wise understand
it or one who is counting their seven days, whether they are male or
female. . . as Garsia Martinez and Tigchelaar say?
In
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Here is a very tentative question:
Is there a relationship of definitions as well possibly as of geography in the
place names Secaca and Qumran?
Here is some background on the question that I consider tentative (unlike,
e.g., the relationship of the Greek name Ossaioi with the Hebrew root 'asah
Hello Soren,
According to Julie Ann Duncan in DJD XIV on 4QDeut(j) page 84, note to
5:33, (BHS note 33a-a errs).
best,
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In commemoration of the fiftieth anniversary of
Sukeniks demise, Gorgias Press is pleased to announce the following
publication:
Author: Eleazar Lipa
Sukenik
Title:The Ancient Synagogue
of Beth Alpha (Deluxe Edition): An Account of the Excavations Conducted
of Behalf of the Hebrew
Megillot members,
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I'm working on an investigation of the movement of
the mechoqeq, esp. the further being ofthis 'party of the blind' after the
conflict of Torah revelation and the to be expected split caused by the moreh
ha-tsedeq
Any help would be appreciated.
Dierk---Katholieke Universiteit Nijmegen
Title: Message
The following are twoannouncementsfrom
theOrion Center.Formore information seehttp://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il/resources/boardConferences.shtml
FirstAnnouncement
The Third Haifa Workshop for Qumran
Studieswill take place at the University of Haifa the
6th-7th June, 2004The Papers
Would anyone like to respond to Greg Doudna's article Redating the Dead Sea
Scroll Deposits in Bible and Interpretation?
http://www.bibleinterp.com/articles/Doudna_Scroll_Deposits_1.htm
Ken Penner
McMaster/Hebrew
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Dear list readers,
If I may respond on the subject in the heading; I suggest that response to
Goranson is an unfortunate ad hominem change of the subject line. Of course I
address the list including Greg Doudna and Dierk van den Berg, though I
confess I do not understand the latter's text.
Gregory L. Doudna wrote--without giving a reference--that Rachel Bar-Nathan
gave the end of Period Ib as c. 15 BCE. That is simply false. It plainly
contradicts what she wrote on page 203 of Hasmonean and Herodian Palaces at
Jericho vol. III (2002). The destruction that marked the upper limit
For those who are interested, Jan Gunneweg has set up a
website on the book, giving publication info and table of contents:
http://micro5.mscc.huji.ac.il/~msjan/book.html
There is a link at the bottom to a Qumran Science
site (some of it still under construction), which will
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From: Jim West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gregory L Doudna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Megillot] Redating the Dead Sea Scroll Deposits
At 07:11 PM 6/10/04 +0200, you wrote:
Magness states that she has
On June 6, in comments concerning the paper on the dating of the
scroll deposits, Stephen Goranson claimed that I had made a
mistake on a detail in a different paper. Goranson wrote on June 6:
Another example of a bold, yet unfortunate statement, in Doudna's
online J. of Hebrew
4. Note that one of the critics of this asking the question of evidence
for
Period II scroll deposits, Stephen Goranson, holds that the inhabitants
at the end of Qumran Period II were probably different than the
inhabitants at the end of Qumran Period Ib,
probably? It would be impossible by
Correction: the article by Jutta Jokiranta, 'Sectarianism' of the Qumran 'Sect':
Sociological Notes, appeared in _Revue de Qumran_ 20/2 (2001), 223-239.
(Thanks to Carla Sulzbach of McGill University for calling this to attention.)
The Jokiranta article is important because the term sect is
Ian Young has presented and discussed an article (DSD 9 [2002] 364-
90) on Masada texts, but it misdates both Masada and Qumran texts.
It is not the case that all see the MT situation at Masada as Young has it.
E.g. E. Ulrich, Two Perspectives on Two Pentiteuchal Manuscripts from Masada.'
in
[snip] Calling on early Qumran deposit is not only a deus ex
machina but one undefined: Ian Young does not investigate whether the
Doudna/
Ian Hutchesson dating has made any credible claim, has any merit, can
really
toss out paleography, archaeology, C14, says that's outside the bounds of
the
Dear Prof. Ian Young,
Thanks for your reply. Your DSD 9 [2002] 364-90 article does indeed show close
MT relations in certain Masada texts, though these texts, as I see matters,
be few and, by you, quite questionably selected and quite questionably dated.
If I read your reply correctly, you
Dear List Participants,
In the article of F. Schmidt Ancient Jewish Astrology an Attempt to
Interpret 4QCryptic (4Q186) in Biblical Perspectives: Early Use and
Interpretation of the Bible in Light of the dead Sea Scrolls, Brill, 1998, pp.
189-191, on p. 194, he tell about the Zoroastrian
From Ruth Clements:
-Original Message-
In response to Dave Washburn's question--very brief abstracts of most of
the papers are now posted on the Orion web site:
http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il; go to Bulletin board/conferences and
follow the link. If I can find out anything about
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From: Stephen Goranson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:55 PM
Subject: [Megillot] Jonathan: 4Q448, 4Q523, recent bibliography?
[snip]
Posidonius and Strabo, sources on Essenes, considered Alexander,
explicitly
named, as
As previously noted, Daniel Harrington, John Strugnell, Emmanuelle Main, Andre
Lemaire, Geert Lorein, and I have argued that the 4Q448 columns B and C text
speaks against King Jonathan. And I added that he, Alexander Jannaeus, was the
Qumran Wicked Priest as well as the pesher Nahum Lion. Now I
Marginal note.
The identified light at the end of the Essene tunnel might be the incoming
'Wizard of Oz' intercity train ...
On the other hand, the political relation between the robust staff-movement
(as one of the sources behind all literay Essenism) and the Herodian
establisment of the 1st c.
The reading of Shin starting col. B line 1 of 4Q448 has been proposed by M.O.
Wise, N. Golb, G. Doudna, and R. Gmirkin. A much longer list of readers read
Ayin; and a number of the latter have declared that the reading of shin
is materially impossible or the like. (Citations on request.) The
Stephen,
I appreciate the general fairness and factuality of your reply, although for future reference you may note that Norman Golb has had no influence on my research on this or any other topic.
Russell Gm.
The reading of Shin starting col. B line 1 of 4Q448 has been proposed by M.O.
Wise,
Dear Stephen et al,
After a careful review of the PAM image of 4Q448, I have decided that what I thought was a trace of a third arm of a shin was actually a shadow, and that the letter is indeed an ayin. It doesn not immediately follow that 4Q488 is antagonistic toward Jonathan, but I want to
Jeffrey,
I for one am extremely sceptical that 1QSb represents a Messianic banquet, which seems to be a scholarly construct based on the assumption that 1QSb reflects a futuristic fantasy. As I have elsewhere discussed ("Historical Allusions in the War Scroll," DSD 5 [1998] 172-214), the War
With apologies for cross posting!
This is the third and final notice of the annual gathering of Biblical
and Biblical Studies E-Listers at the annual meeting of the SBL that
begins in two day's time in San Antonio, Texas.
(For details, see
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From: philip davies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Megillot] J. Post on Qumran (problematic)
The key problem is, and always has been, the connection between site
and scrolls. We have a few pieces of
Philip wrote:
So I guess we are more or less on the same mind. Also about the
dangers of excessive confidence. One small step in the wrong
direction can take you far from the destination even if thereafter
you walk in a straight line. Scholarship is surely about retracing
checking, changing
Prof. Hirschfeld might want to consider asking the publisher to hold up his
book, so he can fix it and issue a much revised edition.
The book does include some well-printed illustrations. Unfortunately, many are
misleading. And not only the Murabba'at combs mislabled (Fig. 101) as Wooden
- Original Message -
From: Jack Kilmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jim West [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: g-megillot@McMaster.ca
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Megillot] Qumran history, again
The Essene Gate did lead to something...the Bethso (Latrines)
Those interested in a more up-to-date controversy on Essenism, authorship of
the DSS, halacha in the DSS and the archaeology of Chirbet Qumran should
read the low-priced book (~15 EUR; 200 pages) ed. by J. Frey and H.
Stegemann_Qumran kontrovers_Beiträge zur den Textfunden vom Toten Meer,
thanks to Joseph Lauer for this timely reminder:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFullcid=1103776315890
Jim
Jim West, ThD
Adjunct Professor of Biblical Studies
Quartz Hill School of Theology
http://web.infoave.net/~jwest
Biblical Studies
An excellent article, very well researched and very well thought-out. I would
have liked to see a photo or two of the ostracon just for reference, but
that's a minor point.
My bigger concern is with the errors that continued to be propagated in the
DJD volume in question. I wonder how many
The Multi-layered Stratigraphy of Qumran
and the Dead Sea Scrolls
by Stephen J. Pfann
ASoOR Meetings at Napa, California (1997) rev. 2002 [.pdf]
http://www.uhl.ac/Napa/NapaPaper.pdf
[De te fabula narratur!]
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Has anybody pictures of art. no.(#) 967-971 of KhQ loc.30 ?
Special interest in table # 970, which is not of type # 967 (# 969).
Thanks in advance.
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Let me add this:
Neither Posidonius nor Posidonius in Strabo Geo.
7.3.3-5 are to be called "Essene sources" - again the dissimilar similitude,
herein the "life-without-woman" of the Temple-founding Dakae that reminds
of the "sine ulla femina" in Pliny nat.hist. 5.73 and the corresponding
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From: Dave Washburn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: g-megillot@McMaster.ca
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Megillot] L30 Tables
[...]
If calculation is a scribal activity then I'd suppose that two of the
three
tables (# 967, # 969) were used for
O- I've missed to answer the calculation
Well, the agricultural branch office is apparently the only workable
alternative to a scroll factory. Now I don't know if you have seen the
movie clip that I've uploaded earlier, for the clip deals in detail with
Zangenberg's Qumran - a possible
Stephen Goranson writes:
Pliny's source on Essenes, M. Agrippa, 15 BCE, wrote when Ein
Gedi (not Jerusalem!) was still ashes (from c. 40 BCE war)--please do not rely
on the Loeb translation that has misled many.
While it is true that Agrippa visited Judea and Jericho in 15 BCE, and wrote a
Dierk wrote:
No Scriptorium (again an anachronistic term), but perhaps a branch
office.
Jack responded:
Scriptorium need not be a monastic term but a word that represents a
place where scribal activity took place.
They may have called it maqom ha sefer but it is still irrelevent to
my point.
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From: Dierk van den Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: g-megillot@McMaster.ca
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Megillot] L30 Tables
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From: Jack Kilmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dierk van den Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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From: Jack Kilmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dierk van den Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; g-megillot@McMaster.ca
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Megillot] L30 Tables
[...]
The benches and tables are reconstructed and on display.
[...]
@Jack, Ed,
Do you
In order to facilitate our discussion on the so-called writing tables and
benches from loc. 30 I thought it might be helpful to quote de Vaux's
description of these items in _Archaeology and the Dead Sea Scrolls_ pp.29-30:
We have already spoken several times of the long room which extends
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Goranson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: g-megillot@McMaster.ca
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 8:13 PM
Subject: [Megillot] Qumran history (brief replies To R. Gmirkin)
[...]
P.S. Y. Hirschfeld p. 161 n. 222 claims J. Zangenberg (2000)
systematically
Dierk, the word in the text I cited, the new book by Y.H., page 161, note 222,
is indeed refuted.
S. Goranson
Quoting Dierk van den Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Even more worse, for Zangenberg was indeed meant.
Hirschfeld_ QUMRAN IN THE SECOND TEMPLE PERIOD, Reassessing the
Archaeological
Well, Stephen, then Zangenberg has already done with Zias in the meantime.
I've thought the battle would last somewhat longer - what a bummer!
_Dierk
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From: Stephen Goranson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dierk van den Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004
Stephen,
J. Frey and H. Stegemann (Ed.)_Qumran kontrovers_Beiträge zur den Textfunden
vom Toten Meer, Bonifatius, Paderborn 2003.
The fact that Stegemann has edited an article by Bergmeier*, directly
followed by a refutation by J. Frey**, which quite obviously turns into a
kind of support for
Please read advancement instead of forthcoming.
When reading some nested sentences in Bergmeier's Essene Reports in
Josephus I had seemingly the German fortkommen in mind. Sorry. We're
still living in Babylon.
Catchword foreign language: I doubt that Steve Mason* has fully understood
Bergmeier's
[Archaeology - Anthropology]
COLLECTIO KURTH: Catalogue of official findings from the Qumran cemeteries
Olav-Roehrer-Ertl's Homepage; last update 3/2004
http://www.primatology.de/de/anthropologie/qumran/index.html
[on resexing and differentiation of the ad-hoc; cf. J. Zangenberg vs. J.
Zias in
ANTHROPOLOGICAL ANALYSIS OF THE HUMAN REMAINS
FROM KHIRBET QUMRAN: THE FRENCH COLLECTION
by Susan Guise SHERIDAN, Jaime ULLINGER and Jeremy RAMP
in: The Archaeology of Qumran, Vol. II. J-B Humbert, OP and J. Gunneweg,
eds.
Presses Universitaires de Fribourg, Suisse and the École Biblique et
Roland Bergmeier's book, _Die Essener-Berichte des Flavius Josephus_ (1992)
was evidently not withdrawn from the market. It was initially published by Kok
Pharos, Kampen. The Pharos imprint is now distributed by Peeters of Leuven.
The ISBN is 90-390-0014X. It is 175 pages. Price: 25 Euro. If
J. Frey and H. Stegemann (eds.)_Qumran kontrovers_Beiträge zur den
Textfundenvom Toten Meer, Bonifatius, Paderborn 2003, ISBN 3-89710-205-6,
~16 Euro.
cf. http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il/resources/bib/language/German.shtmlon
Frey's article.
Prof. S. Goranson holds a copy of the book, perhaps
Seemingly a transcription error made by Acrobat
Distiller. Already corrected.
Please d/l anew. And inform me if there are even
more transcription errors in the text.
I'm in a hurry in the moment. Sorry.
And a crafted MS-Word copy of the article would
take some time, I think.
_Dierk
Dear List,
Do we know of any thematic altercation between the religio-politcal groups
of the Zealot Sons of Phinehas and the Zadokite Sons of Zadoq in their war
of power? If we know of no such interaction, which is, as is generally
known, inevitable between well-defined social groups that share
At 02:37 PM 1/11/2005, you wrote:
Aaron
sent the Bergmeier zeroxes, but they arrived in .jpg format, which
Windows can't open. Be patient!
Andy
P.S. If anyone else received them and successfully opened them, please
advise.
Andy you should be able to open them through your internet browser if you
Further to the brief notice earlier today, here is the official announcement
forwarded for Ian Hutchesson:
-
Dead Sea Scrolls Forum
--
I'd like to announce the opening of a web-based forum for Dead Sea
Andy,
I have Photoshop 7.0and Acrobat 6.0 on my
notebook, and Iraqi sand from the desert
inside *g*
However, please send me the material when the
problemof opening the .jpgs remains; it should be no big deal to reproduce
the article asperfect pdf file.
_Dierk
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Four e-mails, each with four or less attached .jpg
files, have been forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED].
Andy
I forward the following from ane-list, in case it is of interest here. That
lsit maintains an open archive at
http://listhost.uchicago.edu/pipermail/ane
I thank the list owners of g-megillot and ane for maintaining open archives.
best,
Stephen Goranson
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Dear list members,
We have just vague trends towards preferences of N-S orientation for males
and E-W orientation for females on the exc. barrows of Kh. Qumran. Much
later Bedouins were doubtlessly Muslims; hard to believe that they would
have ever shared grave-fellowship with
Could either you, Dierk, or Aaron send me the last
3 pages of Frey? It didn't come through right yesterday. Then we had
a 5-hour power outage.
Andy
Please note that it is an abuse of the Megillot list to use it to facilitate
the distribution of copyrighted material (such as scans of published works).
Ken Penner, McMaster/DSS
Dead Sea Scrolls scholars' list owner,
http://mailman.McMaster.CA/mailman/listinfo/g-megillot
I've lost the Mason article on the Essenes.
Is that still available? Could someone direct me to it?
Andy
Please correct me if i am wrong- but this passage is not among the
surviving Qumran manuscripts is it?
thanks
Jim
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On Thursday 27 January 2005 08:26, Jim West wrote:
Please correct me if i am wrong- but this passage is not among the
surviving Qumran manuscripts is it?
Nope. The nearest is 2:14-16, which seems to be more of a paraphrase than a
biblical text. It's in 4Q481a, also called 4QApocryphe
CD 8.20-21 doesnt say anything about 2 Ki 2. It simply mentions
Elisha's name and that in connection with Gehazi.
Best
Jim
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I just want to make one small comment on an issue that has been
raised by Stephen Goranson but has recurred throughout the more
recent history of DSS discussion.
These legal matters are best not
termed here halakha, because that rabbinic term is not used at Qumran in the
rabbinic sense
The
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From: Joshua Ezra Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Megillot] Essenes, Sadducees, and Joseph
Baumgarten
The same can be said about traditional Samaritan
Dear Stephen,
I am familiar with Baumgarten's position on the relevance of rabbinic 'halakha'
to the legal material of the scrolls. One of the most concise presentations of
his position can be found on page 22 in DJD 18:
As is well known, there are those who consider the relatively late date of
Stephen,
The use of a general term such as "law" or "legal materials" to describe the halachic material in the Qumran corpus disregards the fact that Qumran legal materials are not homogenous. As noted by P. Davies, C. Hempeland others,there is a difference in content and vocabulary between the
Dear Herb,
You make a good point! Perhaps I did push things a bit too far in order to make
the distinction between the way in which one arrives at a particular
interpretation and the interpretation itself. Having said that, please allow
me to provide three short quotations which may help to
Dear Ian:
I appreciate your thoughtful post; allow me please to
reflect at length.
I stand by what I said. People who deal with Qumran
sometimes, improperly,
just use the word halakhah to mean law as opposed to
lore and I did write in an
earlier post What we now call Midrash halakhah (likely,
oh my complaint is against using words in scholarship which
are taken from religious traditions and then reading back
our anthropological assumptions about these terms as if the
tradition is all about our reductions. And also, if physics
has no biblical basis does that mean we shouldnt meddle with
Dear Herb,
Thank you for your insightful posting! I appreciate your comments on the
appropriation/use, or misappropriation/misuse, of terms that are specific to a
particular religious tradition. That being said, I am a little concerned that
we are being a bit too quick to point the finger at
Well, Ian, conventions are difficult to break, and truth be told my own
adherence to my own claims and views is practised more in the breach than
inthe observance: In Brill's Encyclopedia of Midrash (2005) p 513 you will
find a caption Halakha and there you will find me comparing halakhic
Thanks, cuz Stephen's link went nowhere. But I'm grateful for the
notice, Stephen.
Jim
Andy wrote:
To get the article, go to www.thestar.com, and in the 7-day search box
type Dead Sea.
Andrew Fincke
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Epiphanius' half-witted Panarion is not even a tertiary source for a serious
approach to the historicity of the DSS. Personally I have not enough
sitzfleisch to deal with his obscure 'faces', amalgamated with a will that
is doubtlessly off one's trolley and wholly bent on multiplication and
Epiphanius' Panarion is a very important historical source. One need not
appreciate him personally or his writing style to see that his confidence that
he can refute heretics and his work to learn about various groups and their
literature allows him to quote from them and describe them
Epiphanius - important for what? Perhaps for the modern psychoanalysis of
demon maniacs but not for history that has left behind the blemish of the
medieval demon cult. The bonfires are cold since long, if memory serves.
The multitude of groups, the ubiquity of the demon called legion he referred
About 20 years ago I wrote that Epiphanius' Panarion was the most important
patristic text not yet (not then) fully translated into a modern European
language (unless you count Russian); Prof. Elizabeth A. Clark (known as
president of AAR, NAPS, etc. etc.) agreed.
His account of
Hope this is not TOO far off-topic:
The thought occurred to me: Qumran finds have aroused considerable interest and
even speculation among non-specialists. The same happened with cuneiform finds
a goodish half-century earlier (Bibel-Babel controversy and all that). But how
about the
The monk Epiphanius is notorious not only for his sexist mood but likewise
for his terrifying inaccuracies, especially in regard to the classification
of groups of the remote past. One should thus avoid any introduction of the
guy of the 4th c. CE into a serious DSS research that has to be
For instance, Epiphanius refers to the Nasareans and Nasoreans as though
they were
separate groups and he refers to distinct groups names Essenes, Jessaeans,
and Ossenes, in which the Essenes were an offshoot of the Samaritans. All
this in an environment of the War of the Sons of Jacob against the
Can anyone here tell me what if any reception the Book of Jonah has within
the DSS? Is it found among the scrolls? Is there any comment upon it, or
use of it within the non biblical material?
Thanks in advance.
Yours,
Jeffrey
--
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1500 W. Pratt Blvd. #1
Text rests from Jonah are preserved in the Greek fragments of 4Q76
(4QXII/a) and 4Q81 (4Q XII/f).
_Dierk
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Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 6:26 PM
Subject: [Megillot] Jonah in the DSS
Can anyone
To the 2nd part of the inquiry.
Different from Maleachi (CD; 5Q10), with whom Jonah shares the stage of
infliction (Aaron Schart 1998), Jonah citations are not used in the
sectarian material, if memory serves.
_Dierk
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From: Dierk van den Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
And as a marginal note (for I'm still unsure what you are actually looking
for):
Jonah language is used in the (hypothetical) Q-logia; its presence among the
older non-sectarian material of the DSS (paleographically dated 150-125 BCE)
refers back to the Mechoqeq Movement, the precursor of the
Sorry, but this got sent directly to Soren rather than to the list.
Soren,
The Pseudepigrapha weren't discovered as a unit and only get identified
as such with publications like R. H. Charles, The Apocrypha and
Pseudepigrapha of the Old Testament. There have been changes in
evaluation of
According to Jerusalem Post 17 Feb.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFullcid=11
08610308258
the Ecole Biblique has a Copper Scroll copy made by pressing soft copper
against the original.
Is this a mistake for the copy made by the French Electric company?
First I think it is easy to separate the Jesseans from the Essenes.
I considered a relationship between IESSAOI and the Essenes once and
rejected it for several reasons, first that Essenes existed before
Christians and secondly the Greek orthography does not match. Isaiah 11:1
says:
wa'yatsah
This proposal has been repeatedly answered. If, Jack, you wish to present a
formal argument for this Aramaic proposal (apart from your other Aramaic
proposal), perhaps a response would be merited.
S. Goranson
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Giuseppe,
It doesn't because Study Edition at 1QH 7:5 treads []
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Andrew
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Jeffrey B. Gibson wrote:
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