Re: [Geeqie-devel] Geeqie++ fever dreams (+Win32)

[Alexander Antimonov]

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 3:26 AM, Ian Zimmerman  wrote:
> While I also much prefer Geeqie to stay just a viewer, plus maybe a kind
> of "shell" for editors [1], I disagree that Linux lacks lightweight
> viewers.  feh is currently my other favorite.
>
> [1]
> On this topic, would it be interesting to create pipelines for editors,
> rather than just invoking them 1 by 1?  For example, we could make it
> possible to create a pipeline where an intricate batch imagemagick
> command is called on the current image, the output is saved to a
> temporary file, and then gimp is immediately called on the temporary to
> allow for manual postprocessing.  Can we imagine a GUI for defining such
> pipelines?

I have just recalled, there is also GEGL (www.gegl.org) for the
"pipelined" editing of the images.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Geeqie++ fever dreams

[Alexander Antimonov]

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 12:27 AM, Alexander Antimonov
<alexander.antimonov.od...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Omari Stephens <x...@xsdg.org> wrote:
>> On 12/26/2016 10:37 PM, Alexander Antimonov wrote:
>>> Is there any plan, enhancement list, users' whishlist?
>>
>> There is a bug list, which does have some feature requests as well:
>> https://github.com/BestImageViewer/geeqie/issues
> Let's see.
I take "jpeg comment" issues: #381, #286.

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Geeqie++ fever dreams (+Win32)

[Alexander Antimonov]

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 4:10 AM, Josef Kufner  wrote:
> ...
> I think there is a better way, but it would be a bit more  complicated
> to implement. I wonder if it is a bit too complex for a simple
> use-cases. It is called "block programming". It is quite an old idea:
> ...
> https://josef.kufner.cz/publications/2014.kufner.cascade.pdf
Sounds familiar. I had been using similar method for video processing.
That was DirecShow technology and it was vulnerable to so called
"codec hell". So we (the team I worked with) had to build filter graph
"by hands" explicitly by unique IDs of codecs. For Unix there is
GStreamer. I'm not sure if it's possible to use it for static images,
maybe wrapped as a video key frame?

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Geeqie++ fever dreams

[Alexander Antimonov]

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Omari Stephens <x...@xsdg.org> wrote:
> On 12/26/2016 10:37 PM, Alexander Antimonov wrote:
>> Is there any plan, enhancement list, users' whishlist?
>
> There is a bug list, which does have some feature requests as well:
> https://github.com/BestImageViewer/geeqie/issues
Let's see.

>
> --xsdg

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Geeqie++ fever dreams

[Alexander Antimonov]

On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 6:28 PM, Klaus Ethgen  wrote:
> I for myself have technical reasons why I dislike C++. And I also have
Could you, please, provide a list of your dislikes of C++?

> concerns about maintainability. Many times the encapsulating breaks
> necessary overview.
For instance?

> So, conclusion, if you have something that can be done in C++ and you
> want to do it, go ahead. Especially if you stay with the project and
> maintain that stuff afterwards. :-)
Is there any plan, enhancement list, users' whishlist?

> Regards
>Klaus
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Geeqie++ fever dreams

[Alexander Antimonov]

> We should have a good expectation of improving life for our users ...
Users are important, but with such move we could improve developers'
life at least.

> - Introduce new bugs (because big rewrites always do)
Sure, but with C++ port we can also simplify code, and less code - less bugs.
Now considerable part of Geeqie's code is plain C which builds UI.
It's a rare method of building UI nowadays. It should be replaced with
something like Glade description.

> - Maybe exclude some core developers who just don't have as much fun in C++ 
> as in C
It might be a good chance for them to improve their skills a bit.

My 5 cents, I prefer do not use love/hate words when it comes to
technical things.


On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Jeff Abrahamson  wrote:
> Is there a case for what users will get if we make these changes?  We should
> ...
> (Bias: I do quite like C++.)
>
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Geeqie++ fever dreams

[Alexander Antimonov]

Hi,
I could take part in porting Geeqie to C++1x if it is decided to do so.

I've been using different kinds of C++ (98/2003/201x) for more than 10
years. I believe the fundamental thing why C++ is better than C is C++
destructor and all the automatic actions that can be taken in it. It
is very convenient for a programmer. Sure, C++ has much more than just
that.

While porting to C++1x it is good chance to make Geeqie more
cross-platform. But it seems Gtk is becoming (has become) an auxiliary
tool for the "GnomeOS". And some of the well-known projects was/is
migrating from Gtk. Maybe we should consider Qt instead? Anyhow, I
guess it's more correct to talk about re-implementation than just
port.

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 10:42 PM, Omari Stephens  wrote:
> It is at least hypothetically possible to port Geeqie to C++11 / GtkMM.
> ...
>
> Thoughts?
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Re: [Geeqie-devel] Consider adding an Up button

[Alexander Antimonov]

On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Klaus Ethgen klaus+gee...@ethgen.de wrote:
 Am So den 15. Sep 2013 um  0:31 schrieb Jeffery Small:
 [Sensless add]
 Who is adding these obnoxious ads?  Is Sourceforge responsible, or someone
 else?

 I think, that is the new policy of sourceforge; to make money out of
 free software.
I can't recall any of the most used free software licenses which ban
making money out of free software.  Even the most virus like GPL
doesn't ban use of GPL'ed software in the commercial projects.

 One more reason to completely go to another platform.
There is no guaranty that another platform will not start adding its ads
(if it didn't already).

 Regards
Klaus

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Re: [Geeqie-devel] JPEG image comments

[Alexander Antimonov]

Hi Klaus,

On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 09:16 +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
 Hi Alexander,
 I do not see the point. You still can have all kind of exiv stuff, also
 comments, in the side pannel. Just drag and drop it from the exif pannel
 or enter it by hand. What is wrong with this way?
 
 Gruß
Klaus

There is, probably, nothing wrong with that way. But, it's known that
some unreliable software can either drop Exif data or damage it after
file editing/re-saving.
Sure, JPEG comments (JC) is no guaranty from that kind of software too,
it's just good to have that many ways to save comments as possible, I
think.

It's not that JC support in Geeqie is like killer feature for me.
I can use GIMP to create new images with JCs or use CLI exiv2 utility to
edit them.

Almost every well-known images viewing software has support for JCs,
e.g. XnView, FastStone. If you think Geeqie doesn't need it, I won't
insist.


Alex


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[Geeqie-devel] JPEG image comments

[Alexander Antimonov]

Hello! 

I could have missed it but i do not see any ability to view/edit
JPEG/PNG image comments. Which is good to have in Geeqie, i think. At
least viewing.
Geeqie already uses libexiv2, so adding this feature should be mostly UI
job. For example, it can be implemented as an enhancement of the Image
Overlay.

Consider this post as a feature request. Can it be done?

Thank you.


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Re: [Geeqie-devel] JPEG image comments

[Alexander Antimonov]

On Sun, 2012-02-26 at 11:34 -0800, Jack Craig wrote:
 Hi Alexander,
 
 I find that opening the info pane shows a comments box.
 add/update works if you click the lower right metadata icon.
 
 it works for me, how about you?
 
 hth, jackc...
 

Yes, I saw this pane. But the comments entered in it are saved somewhere
in ~/.local/share/geeqie/metadata/... in a separate file.
I am taking about a way to save a comment into a JPEG file to make it
mobile, so that I could hand commented file to other people without
need to synchronize the metadata in ~/.local/share/geeqie
This what JPEG comment actually is.

Thanks for help, anyway.


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