On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote:
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
...snip...
* Apache Foundation owns the trademark to OOo?
...snip...
The ASF has a recorded Software Grant that includes the trademark along with
a specific list of source code files.
I
Hi all,
On 05/06/2011 10:06, Julien Vermillard wrote:
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Shane Curcurua...@shanecurcuru.org wrote:
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
...snip...
* Apache Foundation owns the trademark to OOo?
...snip...
The ASF has a recorded Software Grant that includes the trademark
Hi Shane,
Op 5-6-2011 6:11, Shane Curcuru schreef:
Question: is anyone here aware of any registrations of
OpenOffice.org or the logo or other related marks in other countries
besides the US?
The name Open Office has been registered in the Benelux by the Dutch
company Open Office
Sophie Gautier wrote:
Hi all,
On 05/06/2011 10:06, Julien Vermillard wrote:
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Shane Curcurua...@shanecurcuru.org
wrote:
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
...snip...
* Apache Foundation owns the trademark to OOo?
...snip...
The ASF has a recorded Software Grant that
I'm aware that Sun successfully challenged a problematic third party
registration in Brazil just as the acquisition was going through. It may be
worth early investigation in case the registration on Sun's behalf was not
then completed; OOo had serious issues in Brazil over many years because of
...@documentfoundation.org: Re: OpenOffice and the ASF]
I'm aware that Sun successfully challenged a problematic third party
registration in Brazil just as the acquisition was going through. It may be
worth early investigation in case the registration on Sun's behalf was not
then completed; OOo had serious
Hi Shane
On 05/06/2011 14:53, Shane Curcuru wrote:
Sophie Gautier wrote:
[...]
I've got the BOPI for France if you're interested in.
Kind regards
Sophie
Yes, please. If anyone has direct links to specific registration numbers
and where they're held of either OpenOffice.org (which we're
On Jun 4, 2011 2:03 AM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
However I
will state that in cases where widespread use of the code is vital for
advancing the cause of free software that the Apache License, Version
2.0 is an appropriate choice:
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On Jun 4, 2011 2:03 AM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
However I
will state that in cases where widespread use of the code is vital for
advancing the cause of free software that the Apache License, Version
2.0 is an
On 4 Jun 2011, at 12:38, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On Jun 4, 2011 2:03 AM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
However I
will state that in cases where widespread use of the code is vital for
advancing the
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On 4 Jun 2011, at 12:38, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On Jun 4, 2011 2:03 AM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
However I
will state
On 4 Jun 2011, at 13:18, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On 4 Jun 2011, at 12:38, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On Jun 4, 2011 2:03
I think this is a diversion.
We all know the press will choose the single sentence that will create the most
traffic. It doesn't matter if this pro or anti foo, they just want traffic.
Let's just assume nobody intended any malice. The journalists want us to fight,
it makes for better
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Subject: Re: OpenOffice and the ASF
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
...snip...
* Apache Foundation owns the trademark to OOo?
...snip...
The ASF has a recorded Software Grant that includes the trademark along
with a specific list of source code files.
I have not yet seen the specific grant of the trademark itself at the
ASF yet
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Florian Effenberger
flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
Hello,
Hi Florian
I hope you don't mind if I jump in to the discussion. The views shared here
are not any official TDF statement, but rather solely my own ones, acting as
a volunteer who has been
First time posting to this list and has been reading it for few days now.
Permit my naive question, can both organizations (TDF and Apache) separate
from their own licensing dependencies and establish an independent entity
(or something that works) to develop some code that can benefit both
Nick Kew wrote (02-06-11 17:48)
Hypothetically if this donation had happened before the
OOO/ODF split, can I assume that you would you have regarded it
as a solution to the underlying problems and never have split?
Would have been a solution for part of the problems. Not all, as may be
clear
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Florian Effenberger
flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
Hello,
I hope you don't mind if I jump in to the discussion. The views shared here
are not any official TDF statement, but rather solely my own ones, acting as
a volunteer who has been contributing to the
...@gmail.com
Date: June 1, 2011 2:58:02 PM EDT
To: Jim Jagielski j...@apache.org
Cc: Louis Suarez-Potts lsuarezpo...@gmail.com, Italo Vignoli
italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org, Sam Ruby ru...@apache.org
Subject: Re: OpenOffice and the ASF
message-id: e0b12107-5bbf-478f-92d9-c4be9a463
On 6/1/2011 8:41 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
My questions then are absolutely pragmatic and relate—hence the to post—to
issues not so far discussed:
* Apache Foundation owns the trademark to OOo?
* We at OOo receive lots of requests to use it for mostly good purposes. We
grant these,
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 21:41, Louis Suarez-Potts lsuarezpo...@gmail.com
wrote:
* Apache Foundation owns the trademark to OOo?
[snip] I'm sure our legal folks can get that
cleared up, should OOo be accepted into the
On Jun 1, 2011, at 10:58 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
On 6/1/2011 8:41 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
My questions then are absolutely pragmatic and relate—hence the to post—to
issues not so far discussed:
* Apache Foundation owns the trademark to OOo?
* We at OOo receive lots of
On 02/06/2011 11:39, Florian Effenberger wrote:
I hope you don't mind if I jump in to the discussion.
Thank you for doing so. Speaking as someone outside all the involved
communities I'm pleased to hear your voice. I'm not equipped to answer
your questions, I'll leave that to people who know
Hi Ross,
On 2011-06-02 at 12:09 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote:
Instead I would like to
understand if this technical objective of breaking OOo code into
reusable libraries that the various forks can collaborate on, is part of
the TDF mission.
I am one of the LibreOffice developers. I am not
On Jun 2, 2011 4:32 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org wrote:
...
There is currently a bit rearagement movement toward figuring things out in
TDF OOo previously to the OOo annoucement, which happened last month on the
marketing list in OOo.
On 2 June 2011 14:04, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
Should we add ourselfs as commiters?
If you would like to contribute here (possibly instead of, or in
addition, to your work at TDF), then yes! Please add yourself into the
proposal on the wiki.
I'm not likely to commit code. I run
Op 2-6-2011 15:04, Greg Stein schreef:
On Jun 2, 2011 4:32 AM, Alexandro Coloradoj...@openoffice.org wrote:
...
There is currently a bit rearagement movement toward figuring things out in
TDF OOo previously to the OOo annoucement, which happened last month on the
marketing list in OOo.
On Jun 2, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Simon Brouwer wrote:
proposal on the wiki.
I had already been so bold as to adding myself to the list, expressing my
support to the proposal. I was wondering though. In the
OpenOffice.orgproject, many community members contribute in other ways than
committing
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 09:21, Simon Brouwer simon.o...@xs4all.nl wrote:
Op 2-6-2011 15:04, Greg Stein schreef:
...
If you would like to contribute here (possibly instead of, or in
addition, to your work at TDF), then yes! Please add yourself into the
proposal on the wiki.
I had already been
On 02/06/2011 14:12, Ian Lynch wrote:
On 2 June 2011 14:04, Greg Steingst...@gmail.com wrote:
Should we add ourselfs as commiters?
If you would like to contribute here (possibly instead of, or in
addition, to your work at TDF), then yes! Please add yourself into the
proposal on the wiki.
On 02/06/2011 14:21, Simon Brouwer wrote:
Op 2-6-2011 15:04, Greg Stein schreef:
On Jun 2, 2011 4:32 AM, Alexandro Coloradoj...@openoffice.org wrote:
...
There is currently a bit rearagement movement toward figuring things
out in
TDF OOo previously to the OOo annoucement, which happened last
Op 2-6-2011 15:30, Greg Stein schreef:
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 09:21, Simon Brouwersimon.o...@xs4all.nl wrote:
Op 2-6-2011 15:04, Greg Stein schreef:
...
If you would like to contribute here (possibly instead of, or in
addition, to your work at TDF), then yes! Please add yourself into the
Hi Ross,
On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 12:09 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote:
However, I do have a binding vote here and therefore I have a
couple of questions for you:
..
Are the goals of the TDF the same as the goals of this proposal
to the Apache Software Foundation.
I would say they are
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:07, Simon Brouwer simon.o...@xs4all.nl wrote:
Op 2-6-2011 15:30, Greg Stein schreef:
...
I would suggest adding a Non-code Contributors table into the
proposal and putting your name in there. We don't have precedent for
it, so may as well start with something. We can
Simon Brouwer wrote on Jun 2, 2011 6:21:30 am:
I had already been so bold as to adding myself to the list,
expressing my support to the proposal. I was wondering though. In the
OpenOffice.org project, many community members contribute in other
ways than committing code, for example by writing or
On Jun 2, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Simon Brouwer wrote:
I had already been so bold as to adding myself to the list, expressing my
support to the proposal. I was wondering though. In the OpenOffice.org
project, many community members contribute in other ways than committing
code, for example by
On Jun 2, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Michael Meeks wrote:
Sure - there are lots of nice side effects of rationalisation and so
on, it all sounds good. But unfortunately IBM's move here is not
primarily focused on that - otherwise (surely) it would work with TDF -
where it has been made
Hi Jim,
Op 2-6-2011 16:42, Jim Jagielski schreef:
On Jun 2, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Simon Brouwer wrote:
I had already been so bold as to adding myself to the list, expressing my
support to the proposal. I was wondering though. In the OpenOffice.org project,
many community members contribute in
On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 12:39:12 +0200
Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
Hello,
I hope you don't mind if I jump in to the discussion.
Great to see you do so! We (ASF) have a decision to make here,
and input from you (ODF and OOO folks) is exactly what we need.
However,
On 02/06/2011 13:40, Jan Holesovsky wrote:
Hi Ross,
On 2011-06-02 at 12:09 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote:
Instead I would like to
understand if this technical objective of breaking OOo code into
reusable libraries that the various forks can collaborate on, is part of
the TDF mission.
I am one
Suarez-Potts lsuarezpo...@gmail.com,
Sam Ruby ru...@apache.org
Subject: Re: OpenOffice and the ASF
On 6/1/11 8:35 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
BTW: would it be OK if I shared this email on the ASF
general@incubator list...? Again, just to be open and
public from the start.
I don't see any
: Italo Vignoliitalo.vign...@documentfoundation.org
Reply-To: italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org
To: Jim Jagielskij...@apache.org
CC: Louis Suarez-Pottslsuarezpo...@gmail.com,
Sam Rubyru...@apache.org
Subject: Re: OpenOffice and the ASF
...
I will also read carefully the proposal
...@apache.org
Subject: Re: OpenOffice and the ASF
...
I will also read carefully the proposal, and make my comments. I
understand that it might still be improved (correct me if I am wrong,
because I have had just a few minutes for going through it, and to me
it looks incomplete or too
Louis Suarez-Potts lsuarezpo...@gmail.com wrote on 06/01/2011 09:41:08
PM:
* Apache Foundation owns the trademark to OOo?
* We at OOo receive lots of requests to use it for mostly good
purposes. We grant these, with minimal fuss and have set up systems
to do that more efficiently. With
On 2011-06-02, at 01:02 , robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote:
Louis Suarez-Potts lsuarezpo...@gmail.com wrote on 06/01/2011 09:41:08
PM:
* Apache Foundation owns the trademark to OOo?
* We at OOo receive lots of requests to use it for mostly good
purposes. We grant these, with minimal fuss
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