RE: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-30 Thread Leo Simons
Leo Simons wrote: As long as we agree that nothing should get into the way of site functionality (and we do), why would you oppose a site that also is easy to navigate and looks good? The only thing I oppose is the idea something being set in stone or approved by some mythical

Re: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-30 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On Thu, 2002-03-28 at 17:12, Pier Fumagalli wrote: Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attached is a small screenshot of the maven page with a white header. Aaah WINXPCRAP! :) +1 Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

RE: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-29 Thread Berin Loritsch
-Original Message- From: Pier Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 5:12 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: subproject layout conventions Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attached is a small screenshot of the maven page

Re: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-29 Thread Ted Husted
Leo Simons wrote: I very much agree. I was under the impression though that at this point, there are some designers available somewhere. It would be good if they would explain which things would be good to change so we can put that into the system. There is no paid staff, and AFAIK, no

Re: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 3/29/02 8:26 AM, Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Pier Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 5:12 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: subproject layout conventions Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-29 Thread Leo Simons
There is no paid staff, and AFAIK, no designers who are also committers. The maven layout looks like it has been designed by a designer. except that the website is not only for geeks. It's also for people that make decisions and have money. Says who? Me. I wan't to use jakarta stuff

RE: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-29 Thread Berin Loritsch
-Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On 3/29/02 8:26 AM, Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Pier Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attached is a small

Re: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-29 Thread Ted Husted
Leo Simons wrote: As long as we agree that nothing should get into the way of site functionality (and we do), why would you oppose a site that also is easy to navigate and looks good? The only thing I oppose is the idea something being set in stone or approved by some mythical designer.

Re: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-28 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Thu, 2002-03-28 at 01:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28/03/2002 08:15:53 AM: On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 17:13, Leo Simons wrote: It has been brought up by many people that there is no common way of organising subproject websites. I propose we

RE: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-28 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Thu, 2002-03-28 at 09:05, Berin Loritsch wrote: -Original Message- From: Leo Simons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 17:13, Leo Simons wrote: It has been brought up by many people that there is no common way of organising subproject websites. I

RE: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-28 Thread Berin Loritsch
-Original Message- From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Thu, 2002-03-28 at 09:05, Berin Loritsch wrote: I would definitely like to see a Maven like system across the projects in Jakarta--even if the main site is not altered much. It would be good to give the

RE: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-28 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Thu, 2002-03-28 at 09:53, Berin Loritsch wrote: The only thing I would want to customize are: 1) Project Logo 2) Project color-scheme No problem :-) That's it. I really don't think that is too much to ask. The layout should remain constant without a doubt. We are in agreement

RE: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-28 Thread Glenn A. McAllister
On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Berin Loritsch wrote: Everything should definitely feel the same. However, color is a definite clue that you have changed contexts. By drilling down a Project's heirarchy, it helps to have a visual clue that you are not at the same level you used to be. Color

RE: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-28 Thread Berin Loritsch
-Original Message- From: Leo Simons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] another lenghty post, so I'll start with a summary: - color variations (and all other lf changes) should be part of the original look-and-feel design. Giving programmers free reign to do this spells disaster.

RE: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-28 Thread Leo Simons
- color variations (and all other lf changes) should be part of the original look-and-feel design. Giving programmers free reign to do this spells disaster. It would be best to have the original designer of a look and feel work this out. Very strictly. :( Seriously, I

RE: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-28 Thread dion
Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 29/03/2002 12:53:36 AM: On Thu, 2002-03-28 at 09:53, Berin Loritsch wrote: The only thing I would want to customize are: 1) Project Logo 2) Project color-scheme No problem :-) The only other thing I've found handy is if there's no

Re: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-28 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attached is a small screenshot of the maven page with a white header. Aaah WINXPCRAP! :) Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-28 Thread Leo Simons
Hey, I'm a programmer myself ;) as a reassurance: the changes this discussion talks about will happen in jakarta-site2, and will consist of backwards-compatible changes to site.xsl and site.vsl. Projects that depend on jakarta-site2 will change to the new look and feel automatically. For

Re: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-27 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 17:13, Leo Simons wrote: It has been brought up by many people that there is no common way of organising subproject websites. I propose we draft a set of guidelines (_not_ rules) on a general structure. http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/maven/ There's a sample

RE: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-27 Thread Steven Noels
Leo Simons wrote: It has been brought up by many people that there is no common way of organising subproject websites. I propose we draft a set of guidelines (_not_ rules) on a general structure. Lets start with some discussion :) All this and more is being tackled (slowly but steadily)

Re: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-27 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 3/27/02 2:26 PM, Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All this and more is being tackled (slowly but steadily) in Forrest - and having some Jakarta people involved for cross-pollination would be good. There's not much yet except for the foundation and build environment and some static

Re: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-27 Thread Jeff Turner
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:23:35PM -0800, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 3/27/02 2:26 PM, Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All this and more is being tackled (slowly but steadily) in Forrest - and having some Jakarta people involved for cross-pollination would be good. There's not

Re: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-27 Thread dion
Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28/03/2002 08:15:53 AM: On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 17:13, Leo Simons wrote: It has been brought up by many people that there is no common way of organising subproject websites. I propose we draft a set of guidelines (_not_ rules) on a general

Re: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-27 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
From: Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Leo Simons wrote: It has been brought up by many people that there is no common way of organising subproject websites. I propose we draft a set of guidelines (_not_ rules) on a general structure. Lets start with some discussion :) All this and