Re: [VOTE] merge lucene/solr development (take 3)

2010-03-13 Thread patrick o'leary
will allow our proximity to St. Patricks day to tone down my description of it, by describing it as shenanigans ! Patrick O'Leary On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Yonik Seeley ysee...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Patrick, I understand some of your concerns with the vote - it certainly wasn't perfect, and (I

Re: [VOTE] merge lucene/solr development (take 3)

2010-03-12 Thread patrick o'leary
I consider this to be pretty basic 1) A vote was called, 3 times... Obviously that shows a lack of clarification of the proposal. 2) The details of the proposal was discussed and I would say points of it's implications augmented from vote 1 through to vote 3 in email threads. 3) Votes had already

Re: [VOTE] merge lucene/solr development (take 3)

2010-03-12 Thread patrick o'leary
Go look at the votes. Which ones? from vote 1 2 or 3?? On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.orgwrote: On Mar 12, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: Here's what I didn't like. The vote was: * ambiguous * something that the Solr devs tried

Re: Factor out a standalone, shared analysis package for Nutch/Solr/Lucene?

2010-03-02 Thread patrick o'leary
Here's my view on it.. Developing GIS support for lucene took a little bit of time and patience and a couple of iterations from a basic concept to get buy to spend more time working on it, to an OMG this does what we need, build more more more... The lucene version of this was easy enough to

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-30 Thread patrick o'leary
Actually that's just with the DistanceQueryBuilder that needs the precision boolean (wheither to do just a bounding box or also filter on radius), the original name of the project was locallucene, to me local and spatial are 2 completely different things. - Local is a search from point x within

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-30 Thread patrick o'leary
Because of this the precision is limited for tiers, you filter the rest of the docs. If the precision would be higher, the number of cart tiers explodes at the corner of the BBOX. Hmm, depends on the order of the search, if you use bestFit is should not explode. The strategy for bestFit is

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-29 Thread patrick o'leary
why not, CartesianCoordinateTiers ? But is that really worth breaking all the existing references to this? What value is that for the users? On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:54:21AM -0800, patrick o'leary wrote

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-29 Thread patrick o'leary
No just that- We are looking at this API as a web maps tile solution- which it isn't. Spatial - lucene as it was originally proposed was meant to be a tool box of solutions- Where CartesianTiers was one of the tools, as was GeoHash, and anything else that others wanted to contribute. Now we're

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-29 Thread patrick o'leary
licensed, and the license allows you to do as you wish On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsi...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 29, 2009, at 4:27 PM, patrick o'leary wrote: My only issue is that I can't find a single reference to that phrase outside of Local Lucene whereas I can find

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-29 Thread patrick o'leary
Marvin, then by all means write your own sir On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 03:55:22PM -0800, Marvin Humphrey wrote: I'll save conclusion #2 for a separate email. Conclusion # 2 == The concepts used in

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-28 Thread patrick o'leary
So Grant here's the deal behind the name. Cartesian because it's a simple x.y coordinate system Tier because there are multiple tiers, levels of resolution. If you look at it closer: - To programmers there's a quadtree implementation - To web users who use maps these are grids / tiles. - To GIS

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-28 Thread patrick o'leary
Hmm, but when you say grid, to me that's just a bunch of regularly spaced lines.. On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.orgwrote: On Dec 28, 2009, at 3:51 PM, patrick o'leary wrote: So Grant here's the deal behind the name. Cartesian because it's a simple x.y

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-28 Thread patrick o'leary
Hmm, depends, tiles indicate to me a direct correlation between the id and a map tile, which will depend upon using the right projection with the cartesian plotter On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.orgwrote: On Dec 28, 2009, at 4:19 PM, patrick o'leary wrote

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-28 Thread patrick o'leary
reference) But it should show that every implementation is unique in some format. Perhaps as unique as CartesianTier's ( sorry Ted ! ) On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 5:26 PM, patrick o'leary pj...@pjaol.com wrote: Hmm, depends, tiles indicate to me a direct correlation between the id and a map tile, which

Re: [spatial] Cartesian Tiers nomenclature

2009-12-28 Thread patrick o'leary
research. I for one donĀ¹t really have a preference but precedent matters to me and if Tiers have been used to date then there should be strong consideration to use that nomenclature and +1 from me. Cheers, Chris On 12/28/09 9:25 PM, patrick o'leary pj...@pjaol.com wrote: So trying