Alin Năstac kirjoitti:
Marius Mauch wrote:
Two questions:
- are there more packages that could benefit from this?
None that I know of. However, there might be other similar packages
without a source tarball (slim chance, but quite possible). At first, I
asked upstream to provide such
On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 15:06 -0400, Doug Goldstein wrote:
So it's 97 degrees outside.. it's pretty hot... Since everyone loves to
debate non-technical things on this list.. Let's debate Fahrenheit vs
Celcius...
Discuss!
Well from my POV you have about 13 assholes 14 including me that felt
Vlastimil Babka napsal(a):
Steve Long wrote:
And no, I don't like being lumped in with Mr McCreesh.
Why would anyone do that? His trolling is sophisticated, but you're just
an annoying spammer.
Can we please stop this direction? My ZOMG was there to share my
frustration from getting my
I have seen no real opposition for the creation of the -project mailing
list and even this ML changes thread itself involved the creation of the
-project mailing (the thread itself is a prime example on why we need
-project in the first place) so how about we just get that mailing list
going right
Doug Goldstein wrote:
So it's 97 degrees outside.. it's pretty hot... Since everyone loves to
debate non-technical things on this list.. Let's debate Fahrenheit vs
Celcius...
Discuss!
Pft.
Rankine and Kelvin, FTW!
--Kumba
--
Gentoo/MIPS Team Lead
Such is oft the course of deeds that move
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 01:30 +0100, Steve Long wrote:
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
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Sorry was there some reason the rest of us had to read this? If so, please
explain it like a responsible Council member. Or is this
Petteri Räty wrote:
I have seen no real opposition for the creation of the -project mailing
list and even this ML changes thread itself involved the creation of the
-project mailing (the thread itself is a prime example on why we need
-project in the first place) so how about we just get that
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 10:04:55AM +0300, Petteri R??ty wrote:
I have seen no real opposition for the creation of the -project mailing
list and even this ML changes thread itself involved the creation of the
-project mailing (the thread itself is a prime example on why we need
-project in the
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 12:22:09AM +0200, Torsten Veller wrote:
What will you do when users start sending mail from dev addresses?
Ban the sender's address :-]
cheers,
Wernfried
--
Wernfried Haas (amne) - amne (at) gentoo.org
Gentoo Forums - http://forums.gentoo.org
forum-mods (at)
On Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 04:58:43PM -0700, Chrissy Fullam wrote:
Developer Relations will continue to assist on requests and any extra bit
that we can. We will see which way this ML thing takes Gentoo and offer our
support in any way we can.
Nice statement from a PR POV, but i really have
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 10:04:55AM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
I have seen no real opposition for the creation of the -project mailing
list
(just to avoid misunderstandings, we're not only talking about
creating -project, but also the stuff that people with non @gentoo.org
address get moderated
Wernfried Haas kirjoitti:
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 10:04:55AM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
I have seen no real opposition for the creation of the -project mailing
list
(just to avoid misunderstandings, we're not only talking about
creating -project, but also the stuff that people with non
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 09:49:32AM +0200, Wernfried Haas wrote:
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 10:04:55AM +0300, Petteri R?ty wrote:
I have seen no real opposition for the creation of the -project mailing
list
(just to avoid misunderstandings, we're not only talking about
creating -project, but
Marius Mauch wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:25:02 +0300
Alin Năstac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was asked to discuss here a portage enhancement proposed by me [1].
Basically I need a pkg_create() that will be executed only in the
context of the upcoming ebuild ${PF}.ebuild create command.
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 10:54:35AM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
No, just the mailing list. Dunno but I tried to make that clear in my mail.
Oops, sorry. No opposition to _that_. ;-)
cheers,
Wernfried
--
Wernfried Haas (amne) - amne (at) gentoo.org
Gentoo Forums -
Luis Francisco Araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:24:51
-0400:
Steve Long wrote:
Petteri Räty wrote:
It's a joint pleasure for me and diox to introduce to you Pierre-Yves
py Rofes. Instead of the snake people he will be joining our
On Tuesday 17 July 2007 09:57:53 Luca Barbato wrote:
Marius Mauch wrote:
Two questions:
- are there more packages that could benefit from this?
ffmpeg, mplayer, libdvdread, mlt...
Finally, this bug could be closed too, since the development in SVN is
proceeded very far, but no versioned
Thomas Tuttle [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below,
on Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:41:51 -0400:
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:54:44 -0400, Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
I do like the gentoo-politics idea that came up a few weeks ago,
which was to move politics off gentoo-dev
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:25:02 +0300
Alin Năstac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Basically I need a pkg_create() that will be executed only in the
context of the upcoming ebuild ${PF}.ebuild create command.
This isn't something that should be done in an ebuild. It's more
suitable to an external script
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:04:55 +0300
Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have seen no real opposition for the creation of the -project
mailing list and even this ML changes thread itself involved the
creation of the -project mailing (the thread itself is a prime
example on why we need
Alin Năstac wrote:
The upstream doesn't offer a source tarball, so I need to construct
it myself from their svn repository.
If you're creating a live ebuild, there are already existing eclasses
that works from the user's POV.
If your aim is to create an ebuild for a specific version, you might
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 09:41:04AM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
Alin Năstac kirjoitti:
Marius Mauch wrote:
Two questions:
- are there more packages that could benefit from this?
None that I know of. However, there might be other similar packages
without a source tarball (slim chance, but
Jan Kundrát wrote:
Alin Năstac wrote:
The upstream doesn't offer a source tarball, so I need to construct
it myself from their svn repository.
If you're creating a live ebuild, there are already existing eclasses
that works from the user's POV.
I'm not speaking about live
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:25:02 +0300
Alin Năstac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Basically I need a pkg_create() that will be executed only in the
context of the upcoming ebuild ${PF}.ebuild create command.
This isn't something that should be done in an ebuild. It's more
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Jan Kundrát wrote:
Alin Năstac wrote:
The upstream doesn't offer a source tarball, so I need to construct
it myself from their svn repository.
If your aim is to create an ebuild for a specific version, you might as
well checkout stuff yourself
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 11:00 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
How about defining the purpose of all these list with which we'll
soon end up before going ahead and requesting changes?
-dev is just for technical development.
-project is for non technical development of Gentoo.
What is technical
Luca Barbato wrote:
I'm not sure how many special cases/option would be necessary for such
script, like exclude dir, one tar per dir and so on.
The process of creating the tarball is quite specific to the package in
question, therefore you cannot make an universal function that does that.
Markus Ullmann wrote:
As we know from previous bugs and mails here on -dev, bitchx is pretty
much unmaintained and now has an open security bug.
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=183149
bug patched, configuring alternative clients to suit my needs was more
time consuming.
lu
--
Alin Năstac wrote:
Luca Barbato wrote:
I'm not sure how many special cases/option would be necessary for such
script, like exclude dir, one tar per dir and so on.
The process of creating the tarball is quite specific to the package in
question, therefore you cannot make an universal
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Vlastimil Babka wrote:
I think he wants to do exactly that, but having the code needed for this
right in the ebuild, so it can benefit from varibles like PV and
versionator eclass for converting PV to e.g. CVS tags... I think it's
quite elegant
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:11:19 Duncan wrote:
Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:01:53 -0600:
Why don't we create the gentoo-project mailing
list, and, you know, actually wait a bit to see how that actually goes.
Then we can talk
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:11:55 Seemant Kulleen wrote:
This leaves two courses of action.
1. Officially install him as such; or
2. Stop letting him wield his power over you. (yes, you, not us --
concentrate on how much you let him affect you).
I guess you know my vote. Option 1 is
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:34:17 Thomas Tuttle wrote:
Personally, I prefer quicker mechanisms to slower ones, but some people
dislike real-time communications because they can interrupt their work
constantly. I think what's important is not the signal-to-noise ratio,
per se, but the
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:30:12 +0100
Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Sorry was there some reason the rest of us had to read this? If so,
please explain it like a responsible Council member. Or is this your
Roy Marples wrote:
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 11:00 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
How about defining the purpose of all these list with which we'll
soon end up before going ahead and requesting changes?
-dev is just for technical development.
-project is for non technical development of Gentoo.
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 14:13 +0100, George Prowse wrote:
So that would mean that welcoming new developers would be on the
-project list?
Or on say gentoo-announce, but yes.
Would package removals be on it because it seems to be somewhere in the
middle?
That's an announcement, so I would
George Prowse wrote:
So that would mean that welcoming new developers would be on the
-project list?
My thinking, I think they would fit better over there, since it is somewhat
non-technical. However, machine-generated notices of dev arrival or dev
departure could be directed to other
Ryan Hill wrote:
Torsten Veller wrote:
| for the quick low down:
| - nominations are from July 1 through July 31
| - anyone can nominate
| - only Gentoo devs may be nominated
|
| so get with the nominating people !
I noticed Kumba isn't nominated, so I'll throw him into the ring.
I'll
to
join the Software Freedom Conservancy, which would provide just the sort
of 3rd-party management that you're suggesting. I put a write-up on my
blog detailing what we know so far:
http://www.grantgoodyear.org/g2blog/gentoo/20070717-sflc.html
I'm cross-posting to -dev, and suggesting
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Grant Goodyear wrote:
Not-so-coincidentally, Gentoo's been invited to
join the Software Freedom Conservancy.
For those like me who don't already know who these people are. As you can read
here [http://www.softwarefreedom.org/services/] under
management that you're suggesting. I put a write-up on my
blog detailing what we know so far:
http://www.grantgoodyear.org/g2blog/gentoo/20070717-sflc.html
I'm cross-posting to -dev, and suggesting that comments be sent
there as well, since most people don't read -nfp.
If you think
I'm missing some people in the nominees list which everytime they appear
is to give solutions or ideas in a positive way, what for me is a
pleasure to find:
dsd (Daniel Drake)
lu_zero (Luca Barbato)
zmedico (Zac Medico)
Thanks.
--
Jose Luis Rivero [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gentoo/Doc
On Tuesday, 17. July 2007 13:16, Mike Auty wrote:
It also means that if a developer has had to move files around or in
some way create the specific layout of the tarball for the ebuild,
they won't be lost if the dev goes away, or retires, etc. So
attaching the specific package creation code
Jan Kundrát wrote:
lack (he's a bit fresher, but his mails are good)
Thanks very much, I appreciate the nomination!
But I must decline.
I don't feel that I have enough experience in Gentoo land yet. Plus
I'll be starting a new job next month and am not yet sure how much time
I can commit.
Ask
Kumba wrote:
George Prowse wrote:
So that would mean that welcoming new developers would be on the
-project list?
My thinking, I think they would fit better over there, since it is somewhat
non-technical. However, machine-generated notices of dev arrival or dev
departure could be
suggesting. I put a
write-up on my blog detailing what we know so far:
http://www.grantgoodyear.org/g2blog/gentoo/20070717-sflc.html
While I think this would be an excellent move, there are a few topics
that concern me a bit:
1) just to be sure, did someone check the transfer agreement
Luca Barbato wrote:
My idea is to have your overlay with live ebuilds and a tool to make a
release out of it.
All the messy stuff remains in pkg_setup/src_unpack all you need to do
then is to iterate the workdir and make tarballs of what you find there.
Sounds good enough?
Basically you
Alin Năstac wrote:
Luca Barbato wrote:
My idea is to have your overlay with live ebuilds and a tool to make a
release out of it.
All the messy stuff remains in pkg_setup/src_unpack all you need to do
then is to iterate the workdir and make tarballs of what you find there.
Sounds good
Jose Luis Rivero (YosWinK) wrote:
I'm missing some people in the nominees list which everytime they appear
is to give solutions or ideas in a positive way, what for me is a
pleasure to find:
lu_zero (Luca Barbato)
Thank you, I gladly accept. =)
lu
--
Luca Barbato
Gentoo/linux
On 2007.07.13 18:12, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 08:34 +0200, Christian Faulhammer wrote:
Mike Doty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
We're voting on this next council meeting so if you have input,
now
would be the time.
Really, I don't like the idea...the list has been calm
Kumba wrote:
Ryan Hill wrote:
Torsten Veller wrote:
| for the quick low down:
| - nominations are from July 1 through July 31
| - anyone can nominate
| - only Gentoo devs may be nominated
| | so get with the nominating people !
I noticed Kumba isn't nominated, so I'll throw him into
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 02:52 +0100, Steve Long wrote:
Perhaps you'd like to explain just how Mr Gianelloni's post was NOT a troll
then? Or is every developer's procmail setting (particularly for such a
stupid thread) a matter we should all be discussing? It's not like amne
never pointed out,
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 09:41 +0200, Wernfried Haas wrote:
So the way i read it devrel would like to do something if requested,
but isn't supposed to enforce the CoC, nor has the authority?
Considering that the Code of Conduct is a subset of the regular Gentoo
developer policies that Developer
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 12:09:58PM -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
Considering that the Code of Conduct is a subset of the regular Gentoo
developer policies that Developer Relations already enforces, I would
say that they are definitely enforcing the CoC and have the authority.
What DevRel
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:37:43 +0200
Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:25:02 +0300
Alin Năstac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was asked to discuss here a portage enhancement proposed by me
[1].
Basically I need a pkg_create() that will be executed only in the
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 11:30 -0600, Joe Peterson wrote:
Seems to me that new dev announcements should be on [perhaps the
announcement variant] of -dev, since they are related to the development
team. It'd be nice to hear those announcements on the list devs are
required to subscribe to, so all
On Tuesday 17 July 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Alin Năstac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Basically I need a pkg_create() that will be executed only in the
context of the upcoming ebuild ${PF}.ebuild create command.
This isn't something that should be done in an ebuild. It's more
suitable to an
On Tuesday 17 July 2007, Alin Năstac wrote:
P.S: The name proposed by me isn't exactly right, as Mike already
remarked on the bug. I suggest to use src_create as function name.
Marius proposed src_makedist which is pretty good ... i wonder though if there
may be a better prefix than src_ or
I am trying to contact somebody in charge of gentoo. I have tried for years
now to get my email address off your list, but all has failed. If someone knows
this person or will send me the email address so that I may contact them, I
would appreciate this. Currently this is eating our bandwidth
Rick Sivernell kirjoitti:
I am trying to contact somebody in charge of gentoo. I have tried for years
now to get my email address off your list, but all has failed. If someone
knows this person or will send me the email address so that I may contact
them, I would appreciate this. Currently
Send an email to this address to be removed from the mailing list:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For your reference, and for any additional Gentoo lists you may be on, I
have included the following link for further information:
http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/lists.xml
Kind regards,
Christina Fullam
Gentoo
On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 07:16 -0500, Rick Sivernell wrote:
I am trying to contact somebody in charge of gentoo. I have tried for years
now to get my email address off your list, but all has failed. If someone
knows this person or will send me the email address so that I may contact
them, I
On Tuesday 17 July 2007, Michael Sullivan wrote:
On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 07:16 -0500, Rick Sivernell wrote:
I am trying to contact somebody in charge of gentoo. I have tried for
years now to get my email address off your list, but all has failed. If
someone knows this person or will send me
/g2blog/gentoo/20070717-sflc.html
I'm cross-posting to -dev, and suggesting that comments be sent
there as well, since most people don't read -nfp.
If you think this is a good idea, a bad idea, or you just want to know
more, now's the time to express your opinion.
snip
Just went trough
historically, gcc on x86 has always defaulted to i386. some people noticed
recently that glibc-2.6 fails to build in this situation as they were only
setting -mtune via CFLAGS, not -march. i'll be tweaking gcc so that it will
default -march based on your CHOST. so all the i686-* people will
i dont think he'll accept, but i dont see Flameeyes name yet ...
-mike
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On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 12:28:09AM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 10:04:55AM +0300, Petteri R??ty wrote:
I have seen no real opposition for the creation of the -project mailing
list and even this ML changes thread itself involved the creation of the
-project mailing
070717 Robin H. Johnson wrote:
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 10:04:55AM +0300, Petteri R??ty wrote:
I have seen no real opposition for the creation of the -project list
so how about we just get that mailing list going right now
and let the rest of it fall into place later.
My guess is that if we
Philip Webb wrote:
To this user since 2003, who plans to install Gentoo in the new machine
which I am presently designing, this sounds like a very welcome development.
I shall continue to subscribe to -dev , but not to -project.
Should I also subscribe to -dev-announce
or will its msgs be
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