On 04/04/10 22:48, Roy Bamford wrote:
Open bugs per package and mean age of bugs per package come to mind.
Such per package metrics can be aggregated per herd, per project, the
whole of Gentoo or whatever.
A reducing mean age of bugs and open bugs shows we are moving in the
right
Joshua Saddler wrote lots of:
Thanks for sh**ting on my efforts.
See, this is not about your personal efforts. I really do appreciate the
work and time you invest in improving both the docs and PR. But otoh try
to compare what the docs-team and PR did say 5 years ago and what they're
doing today
On 04/04/2010 04:48 AM, Joshua Saddler wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:16:32 +0200 Tobias Scherbaum
dertobi...@gentoo.org wrote:
- Our formerly outstanding documentation still is somewhat
maintained, but that's it. I haven't seen any new additions (both
to our docs, but also to our docs-team)
On 04/04/10 03:48, Joshua Saddler wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:16:32 +0200
Tobias Scherbaum dertobi...@gentoo.org wrote:
- Our formerly outstanding documentation still is somewhat maintained,
but that's it. I haven't seen any new additions (both to our docs, but
also to our docs-team) for
On Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:22:06 +0200
Tobias Scherbaum dertobi...@gentoo.org wrote:
5 years ago [...] constantly added [...]
You need to clarify your metric. How are you defining constant? How often does
a new document need to appear?
What mostly happens is steady refinement and expansion of our
On 2010.04.03 15:59, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 15:40 +0100 schrieb Roy Bamford:
First, we need some metrics - the first step to controlling
anything
is
to measure it.
So, how do you want to measure those metrics? I for one can't think
of a useful algorithm
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On 04-04-2010 04:50, Dale wrote:
I felt sorry for the KDE folks when KDE4 was released. It just had
to be a nightmare to get all that in the tree at once. If they had
twice as many people working on it tho, it would have been easier. The
people
Hell no, but ...
We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way.
Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas were
users might get the idea Gentoo already is dead.
For example:
- hardened-sources are nowadays only available in an experimental
On 4/3/10 11:16 AM, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
Hell no, but ...
We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way.
Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas were
users might get the idea Gentoo already is dead.
For example:
- hardened-sources
On 04/03/2010 12:16 PM, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
- Infra: One might get the idea our Infra team is just Robin (yeah, sure
there are more people, but ) ... things are happening slowly (no
offend - I fully understand that those few can't dedicate more of their
spare time to infra work!),
On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 11:16:32AM +0200, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
Hell no, but ...
Then avoid feeding the distrowatch trolls w/ sensational
subjects please ;)
We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way.
Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of
On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 11:16:32AM +0200, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
- Infra: One might get the idea our Infra team is just Robin (yeah, sure
there are more people, but ) ... things are happening slowly (no
offend - I fully understand that those few can't dedicate more of their
spare time to
On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 09:40:12AM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
So - what to do now? To be honest - I have no real clue. But a first
step might be to collect your opinions on where we do lack manpower and
ideas on how to solve this problems. A Wiki might be fitting well for
that task
Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 02:37 -0700 schrieb Brian Harring:
On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 11:16:32AM +0200, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
Hell no, but ...
Then avoid feeding the distrowatch trolls w/ sensational
subjects please ;)
oh, well ;)
We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up
Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 11:26 +0200 schrieb Paweł Hajdan, Jr.:
For example:
- hardened-sources are nowadays only available in an experimental
overlay, lots of users keep asking what's happening to the
hardened-sources on both the -dev but also the -hardened mailinglist.
I recently
Am 03.04.2010 11:26, schrieb Paweł Hajdan, Jr.:
On 4/3/10 11:16 AM, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
Hell no, but ...
We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way.
Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas were
users might get the idea Gentoo already
On 2010.04.03 10:16, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
Hell no, but ...
We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive
way.
Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas
were
users might get the idea Gentoo already is dead.
For example:
[snip lots of
Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 15:40 +0100 schrieb Roy Bamford:
First, we need some metrics - the first step to controlling anything is
to measure it.
So, how do you want to measure those metrics? I for one can't think of a
useful algorithm which helps to identify understaffed or orphaned areas.
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Tobias Scherbaum dertobi...@gentoo.org wrote:
Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 15:40 +0100 schrieb Roy Bamford:
First, we need some metrics - the first step to controlling anything is
to measure it.
So, how do you want to measure those metrics? I for one can't think
Alec Warner wrote:
The above are all pretty easy to do with the data in the tree. Some
other useful ideas might be:
- compare open bugs for the package, when was the last bug for a
package closed (bugs data kinda sucks for this)
An additional search: last touched by assignee between never
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 05:38, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote:
My perception from the outside is also that it's sometimes hard to offer
help. So if we now that we are busy then let's try to embrace others
doing the work.
This is also what I have observed. I think Gentoo needs appear
On 04/03/10 18:03, Alec Warner wrote:
- date of last commit: Gentoo is fast moving and packages that
haven't had commits since 200{4,5,6} are probably old, unmaintained
and may not even compile or run.
- date of last listed maintainer commit versus last commit:
Basically if the maintainer
On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:16:32 +0200
Tobias Scherbaum dertobi...@gentoo.org wrote:
- Our formerly outstanding documentation still is somewhat maintained,
but that's it. I haven't seen any new additions (both to our docs, but
also to our docs-team) for years. People are constantly asking for a
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Joshua Saddler nightmo...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:16:32 +0200
Tobias Scherbaum dertobi...@gentoo.org wrote:
- Our formerly outstanding documentation still is somewhat maintained,
but that's it. I haven't seen any new additions (both to our
Alec Warner wrote:
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Joshua Saddlernightmo...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:16:32 +0200
Tobias Scherbaumdertobi...@gentoo.org wrote:
- Our formerly outstanding documentation still is somewhat maintained,
but that's it. I haven't seen any
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