RE: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-25 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
about once ever 1-3 months, and it works great for the first month, linux seems to be the opposite for me. Glad it works for you.. Jeff -Original Message- From: Jason Stubbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 6:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user

RE: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-25 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world Very interesting link. So, I would say that the capabilities are there and just need to be communicated. Another person in this thread (Jason Stubbs, I believe) mentioned something to the effect that packages like glibc may break

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-25 Thread Brian Richardson
On August 22, 2003 04:01 pm, Spider wrote: And, Normally i never script updates. i don't think anyone in their sane mind does that. our system as it is builds on manual updates and slow migration, since we do api-changing / config changing updates... Had we had a stable product with a single

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-24 Thread Stroller
On Saturday, 23 August 2003, at 11:42 pm, Terje Kvernes wrote: I've been running ~x86 on three boxes for a couple of months now, with the latest and greatest. things work surprisingly well, with some tidbits here and there requiring testes... I think you're saying it takes balls to run

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-24 Thread Terje Kvernes
Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Saturday, 23 August 2003, at 11:42 pm, Terje Kvernes wrote: I've been running ~x86 on three boxes for a couple of months now, with the latest and greatest. things work surprisingly well, with some tidbits here and there requiring testes... I

RE: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-23 Thread Lionel Laratte
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 12:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world Done it.. :) Since I don't do automatic updates, I let one of my 486's get pretty far behind.. over 6-9 months as a matter of fact.. I did a emerge sync, emerge -udp

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 23 August 2003 19:41, Lionel Laratte wrote: I'm a Gentoo newbie and not a programmer or even all that experienced at Linux. However, I am a technology manager for what it's worth. Anyway, I've been following this thread and it occurs to me that doing an auto emerge world might be

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-23 Thread Heschi Kreinick
I've been following this thread and it occurs to me that doing an auto emerge world might be better handled if there was some way to --pretend this a print a log of what would be updated. It could even be a menu-driven process allowing you to choose what to update. Does this sound feasible?

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-23 Thread Jason Stubbs
. -Original Message- From: Heschi Kreinick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 7:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world I've been following this thread and it occurs to me that doing an auto emerge world

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-23 Thread Terje Kvernes
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [ ... ] (0) By all means use mostly stable packages, but let all update recommendations age 2 weeks before performing the updates, then do them singly and manually watching for anomalies and recommendations. I've been running ~x86 on three boxes

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-22 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Jeffrey Smelser wrote: I am just trying to figure out how you guys just do emerge world's all the time without breaking anything. Steps to a safe system. Do allow a script to: (1) Sync (2) Do pretend updates (3) Fetch updates (4) Email root with pretend updates (5) Log emerge activity Do NOT

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-22 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 20:10:10 +0100 Dhruba Bandopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeffrey Smelser wrote: I am just trying to figure out how you guys just do emerge world's all the time without breaking anything. Steps to a safe system. Do allow a script to: (1) Sync (2) Do pretend

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-22 Thread Spider
begin quote On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:22:55 -0500 Jeffrey Smelser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, How can anyone just write a script to emerge world all the time and expect the system to just be ok?? snip The Perl thing is a great example.. snip Care to help me out? Btw, I am not

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-22 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 23 August 2003 00:22, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: OK, maybe its just me and I am a control freak.. (hell, my wife says I can be.. :) ).. How can anyone just write a script to emerge world all the time and expect the system to just be ok?? Maybe its because of my systems being here so

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-22 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 23 August 2003 09:48, Jason Stubbs wrote: P.S. My reference to intellect does not imply that the aforementioned people are lacking in that area - there responses confirm that they are not. My point is that you're average user migrating from RedHat or possibly

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-22 Thread Collins Richey
[ snips ] On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 09:48:38 +0900 Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 23 August 2003 00:22, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: OK, maybe its just me and I am a control freak.. (hell, my wife says I can be.. :) ).. How can anyone just write a script to emerge world all the

Re: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-22 Thread Spider
begin quote On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 09:48:38 +0900 Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To sum up, if you want absolutely no breakage then Dhruba, Collins and Spider have the right ideas - especially Collins with his wait two weeks policy. Actually Spider broke his test box recently and did it

RE: [gentoo-user] auto Emerge world

2003-08-22 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
Done it.. :) Since I don't do automatic updates, I let one of my 486's get pretty far behind.. over 6-9 months as a matter of fact.. I did a emerge sync, emerge -udp system.. Did the gcc and glibc on their own to make sure they worked, and just kept on working the list until it was gone, then did