[gentoo-user] Re: wine'ing some games
William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I dont regard this as a free speech issue, but about common decency. As do I. I might be annoyed by people using bad language, too, (not necessarily bad words, but when people don't bother to express their problems/opinions understandably), but I don't write snipe people in public forums about it. What we need to get along on this kind of list is tolerance, not a bad word list. That way lies censorship. -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ ICQ: 82945879 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: wine'ing some games (OT)
Chris Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's a new concept for you: If you want people to respect you, then try to respect them. If you don't respect others, you deserve what you get. It's your choice. In public, people normally follow a code of rules called 'ethics'. In private you can do whatever you like. I think THIS is fair. I'm pretty sure that what words I use or not has nothing to do with my ethics. Seeing the word CENSORED hasn't harmed anyone. If you think you (or your over-protected daughters) might be the first, then make a appropriate procmail rule, and stop buggering us about it. -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ ICQ: 82945879 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: wine'ing some games
Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: #2. I did not berate him. I merely pointed out that I and perhaps others find his choice of words unexceptable. If that was actually your intention, you should have mailed him personally, and not the list. (Maybe you think I should heed my own advice here. But then again, my intention is to berate.) #3. I am nowhere near a language bigot, At least not a good one, since you doesn't even care to spell acceptable correctly. but I am a gentleman. Well, then show it and don't metaphorically lambaste people in public forums in the future. Especially not for bagatelles like this one. -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ ICQ: 82945879 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: which type of access to a webserver?
Matthias F. Brandstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a question to all of you: What do you think, which would be the best, ie. most secure access to a webserver, so that users can update their sites? To be more specific: I can't allow ssh login for most of this users for several reasons, that's why I set /bin/false as login shell for them. Ok, so no ssh, no ftp (sidenote: I hate [S]FTP[S] for several reasons, ee. firewall issues and so forth). Use ssh with a restricted shell. Restrict them to sftp only. Firewall issues? Fix the firewall. -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ ICQ: 82945879 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: which type of access to a webserver?
Matthias F. Brandstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, and how can I chroot SFTP only (ie. not SSH), and only for some users (ee. not root)? Give them ssh access, but a restricted login shell, in which they can only run sftp, and make a wrapper for sftp, that runs it chrooted. There's a bunch of restricted shells out there, there should be something that does what you want. -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ ICQ: 82945879 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Gnus problems
Valentino Volonghi aka Dialtone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another problem I have is how to download group list, I can't find the command string to do so. fetchnews -vv doesn't seem to work properly. Watching my logs I get this: man fetchnews. Read about the -f option. Oct 28 08:16:09 [leafnode] config: create_all_links=0 found in section of server news.cis.dfn.de, please move it in front of any server declaration Oct 28 08:16:09 [leafnode] config: filterfile=/etc/leafnode/filters found in section of server news.cis.dfn.de, please move it in front of any server declaration Do what it says. Oct 28 08:16:30 [su(pam_unix)] session opened for user root by dialtone(uid=1000) Oct 28 08:16:38 [xinetd] START: nntp pid=12238 from=127.0.0.1 Oct 28 08:16:38 [xinetd] FAIL: nntp address from=127.0.0.1 Oct 28 08:16:42 [su(pam_unix)] session closed for user root - Last output repeated twice - Oct 28 08:25:47 [xinetd] START: nntp pid=16284 from=127.0.0.1 Oct 28 08:25:47 [xinetd] FAIL: nntp address from=127.0.0.1 Oct 28 08:26:54 [su(pam_unix)] session opened for user root by dialtone(uid=1000) I hope you are only trying to connect as root for testing. -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo noob here
Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 04:39:20PM -0400, Kwame Opam wrote: Just curious. How long would a full online install take? It occurs to me that I have some things to do by the week's end, but having everything optimized is what I really want to see. Should I expect a 24 hour install on broadband? Totally depends on your system. On a K7-900 with 512mb ram on broadband it was probably a 6 hour install to the end of make system (ie: no desktop stuff installed). For a full KDE on the same system it was probably 16 hours approx (ie: wild ass guess), and less than that for a full gnome install. Openoffice takes about 24 hours to install on that machine. One thing that might speed things up a bit during the initial install is to run emerge with the -f option, starting a while before compiling. That way, you will download sources continuously. (emerge --help for details on the -f option) -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Sudo question
Stephen Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As ROOT I carry out adminstration work but I communicate with outside World as USER. Occasionally while doing administration I need to refer to data on emails. Make root an alias for your normal user name instead. Myself I run exim and have a *: bkhl in my aliases, that makes mail to anyone not mentioned in the aliases go to me. (Makes sense on a mostly single user system.) -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Sudo question
Stephen Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could you please provide more detail how to acheive it. I expect to send and receive email in User=satimis account not as root. The recipient can't recognize the emails coming from root. Beside in case of virus attack root will not be affected. You can read how to do it in the Exim FAQ (http://www.exim.org/exim-html-4.20/doc/html/FAQ.html), question 0401. -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Really off topic question: Matrix Reloaded
Norberto Bensa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So far, I've rent The Matrix: Reloaded three times in three different stores now, and I can't watch it. When I put the DVD disc in the drive, the drive does some clack, clack, clack sounds and then nothing; It behaves like if I didn't load any disc at all. I can however watch the second DVD disc the making of... without any problems. Maybe your DVD drive has taste? -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: runat ?
raptor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And u have to be root to do it, No, you don't. and i dont want to run command every day but just once..etc.. :) That's a valid reason to use at instead. -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: OT: How many of you are 100% Linux?
tony Scharf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I personaly would love to see linux compete in the audio realm, but with the current hardware support being as abysmal as it is, and the simple fact that the music apps are VERY far behind, I dont see it happening anytime soon. I am currently emersing myself in C++ so that I can eventually contribute to these projects. I'm also a musician, but I'm running only Linux on my desktop machine. For sequencing I use a Macintosh Classic II with a good sequencer program from 1993 on it, and a hardware multitracker for recording. No mucking about with Windows or MacOS X for me. -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: OT: How many of you are 100% Linux?
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fine as an fyi, but the poster was complaining about the dearth of music software for l-i-n-u-x. No amount of mucking around will overcome this deficit. Sure, but I just wanted to point out that you can make music without having bleeding edge software. Don't get me wrong, I would like good free audio software, too. Also I think we're getting there. The Linux sound system (OSS) has been a mess to work with, but the new one (ALSA) promises to change that radically. (Mostly when it comes to driver uniformity and support for high-end sound cards.) -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: darcs or arch as CVS alternative
Tom Eastman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know anything at all about either of those two... but I've been a loyal fan of Subversion [1] ever since I discovered it a year ago. It might be worth looking into it as well. If you decide to try it, keep good backups though. I used it for a little while, but stopped since it kept messing up the database. As I understand it there's still a problem with that. -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo distfiles - how much space
Erwin Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thanks, but how much space needs ALL of them (if i synchronise them from a mirror)? a) Why on earth would you do that? (Unless you're setting up a public mirror, that's a good thing.) b) ~10Gb -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo distfiles - how much space
Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Monday 20 October 2003 15:47, Björn Lindström wrote: Erwin Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thanks, but how much space needs ALL of them (if i synchronise them from a mirror)? a) Why on earth would you do that? (Unless you're setting up a public mirror, that's a good thing.) b) ~10Gb Ahem? I just checked ftp://ftp.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp/GENTOO/distfiles size and found it to be 12375 files and 22.7gb. Ehem, I guess it's grown a bit since I last checked, then. (If you mean 22.7Gb, at least ;-) -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo distfiles - how much space
Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For my LAN, I have 1 computer that has /usr/portage shared via NFS. On all the other computers, I have this NFS share mounted as /usr/portage. I have a cron job that runs every night that does 'emerge sync' and 'emerge -uDf world' on the main computer. This way, they all have access to the same portage tree and the same distfiles. Also, if I want to install a new package on one of the computers, If I download it on any one of the other computers, it saves it to the shared /usr/portage/distfiles, so all the other computers have access to it. If the machines are similar enough, you can even share the binary packages in /usr/portage/packages· That would save you some CPU cycles. -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo distfiles - how much space
Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seeing the thread was originally about a server environment, I want to add just one small possible problem in this scenario. What if two computers are trying to fetch the same file at the same time? What happens is that they both fail. Just playing the devil's advocate... for the most part, this situation is easy to avoid but one must be aware of it before actively avoiding... That should be cool, given all the MD5-sum checking. Would NFS not do the right thing, you will get a sensible error and can try again. -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Turning off emerge's xterm title setting
emerge's habit of setting the titles of xterms breaks my ratpoison setup. Is there some way to turn that feature off? -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: (mozilla) firbird 0.7 released
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well the latest firebird is out, but the download site seems to be pegged; I can't get there yet. What looks slicker-n-snot is the ability to bookmark a set of open tabs and reopen all automatically later. You can do that already in 0.6.1. It's certainly slick, though. -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: galeon 1.3
Chris Bare [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now that I've upgraded to gnome 2.4, galeon 1.2 won't run unless I start gconfd-1 manually first. So I thought I'd try galeon 1.3 since other distros like Mandrake have been shipping 1.3 for quite a while. I set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 and did emerge -p galeon. I was surprised to see that it wanted to upgrade gcc to 3.3.1. Other than the obvious reason that *everything* depends on gcc, why does galeon have a specific dependency on 3.3.1? I tested other ~x86 packages, like openoffice 1.1 and they did not want to upgrade gcc. Instead of setting ACCEPT_KEYWORDS, try to give the ebuild version explicitly. Something like: $ emerge -p /usr/portage/net-www/galeon/galeon-1.3.9.ebuild -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ Download the new *Elektrubadur* demo from http://elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] info error at emerge
I get this error after each emerge. What is up with that? install-info: menu item `Bash' already exists, for file `bash' * Processed 86 info files; 1 errors. -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ Download the new *Elektrubadur* demo from http://elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: PPP line sharing
Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20030308 20:32]: I recently got a lodger who wish to share my modem ISP connection. Since I pay per minute I wish to do the following: a) Have my Gentoo box act as a gateway to the net for his Windows box. (This I can handle myself, I guess). b) Track our usage, so that we can pay a fair amount of the bill. Maybe have him use PPP-over-ethernet, then subtract his connection time from mine. (I don't pay any startup fee for each connection, which should simplify things). How do you people suggest I go about this? (Mainly (b)) Is there really noone here that has done anything like this? -- Björn K. H. Schwa -- Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page --- http://hem.fyristorg.com/bkhl/ Blog --- http://bkhl.livejournal.com/ Elektrubadur demo --- http://hem.fyristorg.com/bkhl/elektrubadur/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] PPP line sharing
I recently got a lodger who wish to share my modem ISP connection. Since I pay per minute I wish to do the following: a) Have my Gentoo box act as a gateway to the net for his Windows box. (This I can handle myself, I guess). b) Track our usage, so that we can pay a fair amount of the bill. Maybe have him use PPP-over-ethernet, then subtract his connection time from mine. (I don't pay any startup fee for each connection, which should simplify things). How do you people suggest I go about this? (Mainly (b)) -- Björn K. H. Schwa -- Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page --- http://hem.fyristorg.com/bkhl/ Blog --- http://bkhl.livejournal.com/ Elektrubadur demo --- http://hem.fyristorg.com/bkhl/elektrubadur/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
