080628 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:57:05 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
the problem with 'emerge world' (without '-p') is
the user hands over control of his machine to an unreliable automaton,
No one has ever suggested that you run emerge world without -p or -a.
Damage caused by
080629 Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:
2008/6/28 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
this is my first time using Linux
and i never have any experience using it before.
First of all, congratulations! having a working Gentoo system
without any previous Linux knowledge is a terrific start!
-- useful
Mark Kirkwood ha scritto:
b.n. wrote:
(The other is your admittedly elusive attitude to release fully
details on what happened, both on your webpages and this thread -for
example, we still have *no* link about the supposed attacks you
received *before* the relicensing, despite repeated
On Saturday 28 June 2008, Philip Webb wrote:
your manually maintained log is entirely redundant if you emerge
Genlop
How so ? -- the site given by 'eix genlop' simply goes on re Perl.
emerge genlop.
When it runs it essentially parses /var log/emerge.log and gives output
like so:
Sat
On Sunday 29 June 2008, Philip Webb wrote:
Anyway, I continue to recommend my own approach to everyone,
while knowing full well they (like me) will go on in their own way
(grin).
Doesn't that give you a huge world file and no easy way to identify
redundant and unused libs?
--
Alan McKinnon
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:19:26 +0200
Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Samstag, 28. Juni 2008, Florian Philipp wrote:
Hi list!
I've got a little question. Here I've got a PC with two 40GB hard
disks, a CD-burner and a DVD-burner, all PATA. Now I'm running out
of disk
On Saturday 28 June 2008, Daniel Iliev wrote:
It seems to me that you are obliged to publish cdrtools under the GNU
GPL until cdrtools contains at least one piece of work which is
licensed under the GNU GPL. Actually that is what the GNU GPL is all
about - to force you to keep the source of a
On Sunday 29 June 2008, b.n. wrote:
Again, it is entirely possible that Joerg, despite his somehow weird
behaviour, could be right. But I fail to see the strong evidence that
should backup his strong statements.
That is the same conclusion that so many other people have already come
to.
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:00:03 -0400
Chris Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Neil Bothwick wrote:
| On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:29:31 -0400, Chris Walters wrote:
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| P.S. I wish people would stop discussing the subject of cryptology
| into the
b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Again, it is entirely possible that Joerg, despite his somehow weird
behaviour, could be right. But I fail to see the strong evidence that
should backup his strong statements.
So you like to tell us that if a few people like to spread a lie, all they need
to do
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I run cdda2wav -e -N -B I get:
===
recording 3884.2933 seconds stereo with 16 bits @ 44100.0 Hz
percent_done:
100% track 1 recorded successfully
===
The recording part confuses me. Does
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stroller wants to hear *your* point of view. As a token of respect for
all the users of your software (the original, not the fork) who are
here and reading this, could you please just describe your position,
and omit all references as to why other
On Sonntag, 29. Juni 2008, Florian Philipp wrote:
cheap SATA-controller:EUR 35
your are looking at the wrong places. Cheap sata-controller: 20€.
cheap 500gb samsung disk 55-60€
cheap 400gb samsung PATA disk ~60€
By the way: Actually the mobo has two SATA-controllers but one of them
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, mkisofs.c is the Program and cdrtools is a work based on the
Program, right?
If you believe this and what you claimed later, then the GPL would be
a definitely non-free license. See the OpenSource definition at
http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd
Am Sonntag 29 Juni 2008 13:05:24 schrieb Joerg Schilling:
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stroller wants to hear *your* point of view. As a token of respect for
all the users of your software (the original, not the fork) who are
here and reading this, could you please just describe
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The GPL tries to take off freedom in otder to keep freedom. This does
not work in most cases (I tried to sue two companies to no avail), so
why take off freedom at all?
OK, all this means that in your opinion CDDL is better than GPL, but
by no
Joerg Schilling ha scritto:
b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Again, it is entirely possible that Joerg, despite his somehow weird
behaviour, could be right. But I fail to see the strong evidence that
should backup his strong statements.
So you like to tell us that if a few people like to
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 07:25:07PM +0100, Alastair Irving wrote:
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 06:42:05PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Alastair Irving wrote:
Hi
I'm trying to run a program which requires the wnck python module,
which I believe is part of the
Sascha Hlusiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Sonntag 29 Juni 2008 13:05:24 schrieb Joerg Schilling:
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stroller wants to hear *your* point of view. As a token of respect for
all the users of your software (the original, not the fork) who are
here and
b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joerg Schilling ha scritto:
b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Again, it is entirely possible that Joerg, despite his somehow weird
behaviour, could be right. But I fail to see the strong evidence that
should backup his strong statements.
So you like to
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:14:18 +0200
Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sonntag, 29. Juni 2008, Florian Philipp wrote:
cheap SATA-controller: EUR 35
your are looking at the wrong places. Cheap sata-controller: 20€.
cheap 500gb samsung disk 55-60€
cheap 400gb samsung
He wrote that he is pissed off...
If you quoted him correctly before, you'd know it was not meant as an
attack. He wrote [...] this latest thread just started to piss me off.
It's not about you, neither about your work. It's about this thread!
People have been extremely understanding
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:48:14 +0100, Alastair Irving wrote:
I've resolved this by installing the gnome-python-desktop package
manually from source. The configure script for it detects which
libraries are installed and only compiles the modules it can given
those libraries. Therefore, there's
Joerg Schilling Joerg.Schilling at fokus.fraunhofer.de writes:
Bloch did run these attacks in private mail.
Irrelevant for 99.999% of gentoo users...
I don't care about credibility. I care about individual
statements.
As far as I have understood, the problem is not CDDL not being
free,
Daniel Iliev wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:16:37 +1000
Dave Oxley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So what I want to do is setup my switch as a router.
No can do.
My switch is a SGE2000P which is also a layer 3 router.
I'm a bit of a newbie on advanced networking but I think that a
2008/6/28 Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi list!
I've got a little question. Here I've got a PC with two 40GB hard
disks, a CD-burner and a DVD-burner, all PATA. Now I'm running out of
disk space and I'm thinking about ways to increase it:
1. I could replace the older 40GB disk with a
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:37:12 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote:
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, mkisofs.c is the Program and cdrtools is a work based on the
Program, right?
If you believe this and what you claimed later, then the GPL would be
a definitely
PLEASE IGNORE my previous message.
I saw Joerg had replied after I sent it,
so it is irrelevant in the new context.
--
Best regards,
Daniel
--
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Joerg Schilling ha scritto:
But that's irrelevant to our discussion, because I do not want a web of
pointers to copies. I want a single pointer to the (hopefully public)
mailing list thread(s) where you discussed with Bloch and you were
attacked by him.
Where is this thread?
Bloch did run
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:02:23 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote:
While the current license set up and the combination in use for
cdrtools has been verified by specialized lawyers, the claims from
the people around Bloch are all made by laymen only.
Very well. This could end
I just noticed that my secondary gentoo machine has a /var/log/messages
file of some 600+ MB. Most of the lines are:
Jun 29 12:53:02 fpc Failure writing to cs5535 codec
Jun 29 12:53:02 fpc Failure reading codec reg 0x7a,Last
value=0x7a80
and it's adding another 20 or so such lines
080629 Alan McKinnon wrote:
Doesn't that give you a huge world file ...
No: of course, I 'emerge -1' when the pkg is not marked 'W/S' in my pkg.ref.
Currently, 'world' lists 97 pkgs ; pkg.ref lists 513 pkgs.
... and no easy way to identify redundant and unused libs?
This is clear when a
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote:
I am trying to ignore the attacks from the people behind cdrkit and I
hope that people realize that progress is only in the official
project. I however need to inform people correctly when I see
incorrect claims on my projects.
Hi!
After subversion upgrading to v.1.5 I have the error shown below (svn is
called from amarok-svn.sh script, I can not use another amarok backend
rather 'yauap', but last one is not supported in portage). I have tried
to get help from Subversion Users mailing list, but have got a silence.
Hi,
It is probably a dumb blunder of mine, but it seems that there is
something weird with glib on my world file.
emerge -pv world fails with:
---
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =dev-libs/glib-2.16 have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:39:21 +0200, b.n. wrote:
emerge -pv world fails with:
---
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =dev-libs/glib-2.16 have been
masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to
complete your request:
- dev-libs/glib-2.16.3 (masked by: package.mask)
On 29 Jun 2008, at 12:05, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stroller wants to hear *your* point of view. As a token of respect
for
all the users of your software (the original, not the fork) who are
here and reading this, could you please just describe your
On 29 Jun 2008, at 14:18, Joerg Schilling wrote:
...
There is a different way of asking that does not create the
impression that you
stand behind the claims from a quoted URL.
I don't believe that:
A bit of Googling lead me to a couple of articles which appear to
indicate you chose to
»Q« [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've just read your outdated page
It is not outdated. Since more than a year, there is no visible development
in cdrkit. So I asume that they did not add new bugs.
http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html. Where you listed
specific bugs, I see they
Neil Bothwick ha scritto:
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =dev-libs/glib-2.16 have been
masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to
complete your request:
- dev-libs/glib-2.16.3 (masked by: package.mask)
/usr/portage/local/layman/desktop-effects/profiles/package.mask:
#
#
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:46:41 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote:
»Q« [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've just read your outdated page
It is not outdated. Since more than a year, there is no visible
development in cdrkit. So I asume that they did not add new bugs.
Actually it's
Daniel Iliev schrieb:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:46:41 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote:
»Q« [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've just read your outdated page
It is not outdated. Since more than a year, there is no visible
development in cdrkit. So I asume that they did not add new
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:45:20 +0200
b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Neil Bothwick ha scritto:
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =dev-libs/glib-2.16 have been
masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to
complete your request:
- dev-libs/glib-2.16.3 (masked by:
Can anyone help me with the correct CUPs settings to print to an HP D7400
series printer over a wireless network?
I can access the printer's home page via the IP address, but when I set up
CUPS with the printer option socket://192.168.2.4, the job fails, and the
printer screen returns the
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:45:20 +0200, b.n. wrote:
- dev-libs/glib-2.16.3 (masked by: package.mask)
/usr/portage/local/layman/desktop-effects/profiles/package.mask:
#
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] (9 February 2008)
# glib-2.15 breaks some packages
- dev-libs/glib-2.16.2 (masked by: package.mask,
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:14:24 +0200
Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Daniel Iliev schrieb:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:46:41 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote:
»Q« [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've just read your outdated page
It is not outdated. Since more than a
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK. It is my mistake. I admit it and I apologize.
Then it appears that Joerg is spreading FUD about the cdrkit project.
I do not spread FUD.
You should carefully check the history to understand that most of the changes
are speudo changes (like adding a
Neil Bothwick ha scritto:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:45:20 +0200, b.n. wrote:
- dev-libs/glib-2.16.3 (masked by: package.mask)
/usr/portage/local/layman/desktop-effects/profiles/package.mask:
#
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] (9 February 2008)
# glib-2.15 breaks some packages
- dev-libs/glib-2.16.2 (masked
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 01:02:39PM -0400, Penguin Lover David Relson squawked:
Jun 29 12:53:02 fpc Failure writing to cs5535 codec
Jun 29 12:53:02 fpc Failure reading codec reg 0x7a,Last
value=0x7a80
I've got no idea why this started nor what software is responsible for
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:46:41 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote:
»Q« [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've just read your outdated page
It is not outdated. Since more than a year, there is no visible
development in cdrkit. So I asume that they did not add new bugs.
cdrkit
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:47:31 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote:
You should carefully check the history to understand that most of the
changes are speudo changes (like adding a space and later removing it
again).
I beg to differ. I don't have any reason to do anything at
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:04:20 +0200, b.n. wrote:
This is masked in a profile from the desktop-effects overlay. It's
nothing to do with the official portage tree, but a third-party
overlay breaking things for you.
Now, what should I do? Ask to the desktop-effects guys?
Seems a reasonable
Daniel Iliev ha scritto:
How about if you remake your site and explain everything there. What
happened (chronologically and in detail) and provide evidence. Remake it
to be clear with simple sentences and easy for finding the information.
Then provide means (as web forum, mailing list etc) for
* Joerg Schilling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [29.06.08 13:38]:
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, mkisofs.c is the Program and cdrtools is a work based on the
Program, right?
If you believe this and what you claimed later, then the GPL would be
a definitely non-free license. See the
Neil Bothwick ha scritto:
And *why* does
an overlay mask things from the *main* portage tree? Is this normal?
Because masking is global, the sum of all the package.mask files is
applied to the system as a whole.
Yes, I know.
What I wondered, is if this is normal policy. It seems that an
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