Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

lee wrote: > Dale writes: > >> lee wrote: >>> Daniel Frey writes: >>> On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, lee wrote: > "Walter Dnes" writes: > >> Similarly, the vast majority of home users have a machine with one >>

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

Why > Or can you explain how unrecognisable names make things easier? Yeah they make life easier. From your talk you never had a problem with eth<0,10> switching names after boot. Everyone who had them appreciates predictable network interfaces. If you don't like them you can disable them in

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

Andrej Rode writes: >>> It is even more frustrating that these so-called predictable network >>> names actually can change on a reboot, it's happened to me more than >>> once when multiple network cards are detected in a different order. > > Then you might found a bug? With

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

"taii...@gmx.com" writes: > It is just another swell example of the pottering-eqsue corruption of > the free software movement. Was that really his idea?

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

Dale writes: > lee wrote: >> Daniel Frey writes: >> >>> On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, lee wrote: "Walter Dnes" writes: > Similarly, the vast majority of home users have a machine with one > ethernet port, and in the

Re: [gentoo-user] xterm menu

Jorge Almeida writes: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 12:40 PM, lee wrote: >> Jorge Almeida writes: >> > >>> >>> It is a voodoo (i.e. fonts) problem. Things work for me now, with -fp >>> in the Xserver command line and

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On 12/19/2016 05:50 PM, Dale wrote: lee wrote: Daniel Frey writes: On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, lee wrote: "Walter Dnes" writes: Similarly, the vast majority of home users have a machine with one ethernet port, and in the past it's always been

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 23:34:56 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote: > You know what I did or did not? Interesting! You can make any post say whatever you want by taking it out of context. You made a statement about systemd, I pointed out that it was incorrect. Others have since made the same point about the

Re: [gentoo-user] Reading the (SSL) traffic with Pale Moon

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 06:43:53PM +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote > And whether the NSS that Pale Moon uses is fine, maybe some of the devs > can tell us, I apologize for for having made too hasty and very probably > wrong conclusion in regard... See the 2nd post in

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

lee wrote: > Daniel Frey writes: > >> On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, lee wrote: >>> "Walter Dnes" writes: >>> Similarly, the vast majority of home users have a machine with one ethernet port, and in the past it's always been eth0. >>> Since 10 years

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

Am 19.12.2016 um 10:59 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > If you can't work that out for yourself, what are you doing running > Gentoo. I'm stating it can be done, I have neither the time nor the > inclination to document it. The question is not, if I can work this out myself or not. The question is: Can

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

Am 19.12.2016 um 10:37 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > No you don't. You know what I did or did not? Interesting! Heiko Baums

Re: [gentoo-user] xterm menu

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 12:40 PM, lee wrote: > Jorge Almeida writes: > >> >> It is a voodoo (i.e. fonts) problem. Things work for me now, with -fp >> in the Xserver command line and /usr/share/fonts/Type1/ before >> /usr/share/fonts/misc/. I would prefer

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

>> It is even more frustrating that these so-called predictable network >> names actually can change on a reboot, it's happened to me more than >> once when multiple network cards are detected in a different order. Then you might found a bug? With predictable network names the name of your

Re: [gentoo-user] xterm menu

Jorge Almeida writes: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:46 AM, lee wrote: > >>> >> I'm using fvwm. I was having trouble with xterm once when I still used >> Fedora, and though I'm not sure, results might be different with >> different WMs (I seem to remember

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

Daniel Frey writes: > On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, lee wrote: >> "Walter Dnes" writes: >> >>> Similarly, the vast majority of home users have a machine with one >>> ethernet port, and in the past it's always been eth0. >> >> Since 10 years or so, the

Re: [gentoo-user] xterm menu

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: Jorge >> > > Actually, I just had a thought. I stumbled onto a very weird fonts bug > some years ago where Firefox would crash on loading certain pages. It > was something very stupid, all fonts need to have world-readable >

Re: [gentoo-user] xterm menu

On 12/18/2016 09:28 AM, Jorge Almeida wrote: > On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Daniel Frey wrote: >> On 12/18/2016 07:25 AM, Jorge Almeida wrote: >>> >>> The logs complain about helvetica, and I found similar stuff in the >>> net (not necessarilly about xterm). This appears to

Re: [gentoo-user] xterm menu

On 12/18/2016 09:28 AM, Jorge Almeida wrote: > On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Daniel Frey wrote: >> On 12/18/2016 07:25 AM, Jorge Almeida wrote: >>> >>> The logs complain about helvetica, and I found similar stuff in the >>> net (not necessarilly about xterm). This appears to

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, lee wrote: > "Walter Dnes" writes: > >> Similarly, the vast majority of home users have a machine with one >> ethernet port, and in the past it's always been eth0. > > Since 10 years or so, the default is two ports. Not in any of the computers

Re: [gentoo-user] xterm menu

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:46 AM, lee wrote: >> > I'm using fvwm. I was having trouble with xterm once when I still used > Fedora, and though I'm not sure, results might be different with > different WMs (I seem to remember something about that). I tried fvwm and there was no

Re: [gentoo-user] xterm menu

Jorge Almeida writes: > On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 1:44 PM, lee wrote: >> Jorge Almeida writes: >> > >> >> This works for me: >> > > Nope. No change. > >> >> Perhaps it has to do with a font not being available in the size needed >> for

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

"Walter Dnes" writes: > Similarly, the vast majority of home users have a machine with one > ethernet port, and in the past it's always been eth0. Since 10 years or so, the default is two ports. > Now the name varies in each machine depending on the motherboard >

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

Alan McKinnon writes: >> That doesn't keep me from noticing that what is being said is very >> different from what is being done. If the bunch of people wants to >> change that, /they/ need to do so. >> > > > I recommend you brush up on your social skills. > > Figuring

Re: [gentoo-user] Reading the (SSL) traffic with Pale Moon

I need to correct what I wrote... Things are *not* as bad as I misunderstood... On 161219-18:17+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: ... > ... > > The NSS library that Palemoon uses (as I posted on that link above) is, > IIUC, ancient (paste from about:support): Nope! But see below... > NSS 3.19.5.0

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 2:59:36 PM EST Peter Humphrey wrote: > This morning I ran my usual daily update and was presented with a long list > of kde-app packages, including KMail-2. The only problem was four blocks > that portage couldn't sort out on its own, so I evicted the existing >

Re: [gentoo-user] Reading the (SSL) traffic with Pale Moon

On 161219-12:16+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 161218-15:29-0500, Walter Dnes wrote: ... > First, I installed Pale Moon, but by no means is the task over. > > And not just because I had issues, i.e. couldn't log into Pale Moon forum: > > SSL-key logging with Pale Moon (the current title) >

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > The truth is, as designs > go, sysvinit is a /terrible/ design. It only lasted 30 years because it > forces all the tricky bits to be someone else's problem > I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying "terrible" - it

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On 19/12/2016 16:52, Marc Joliet wrote: ... > I'm not convinced that you actually understand systemd particularly well. It > seems to me that if you want to develop an informed opinion about it, you > should: > > a) Read the official documentation (don't just rely on what others say; even >

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Sunday 18 December 2016 00:36:15 Heiko Baums wrote: > Am 18.12.2016 um 00:23 schrieb Andrej Rode: > > For reference did you try to write an init script for a piece of > > software in SysVInit, systemd and OpenRC to be able to compare them? > > Yes, at least I had to read a lot of them. And

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

On Monday, December 19, 2016 09:45:21 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > J. Roeleveld wrote : > > On Sunday, December 18, 2016 03:11:58 PM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk> > > > > wrote : > > > > This morning I ran my usual daily update and was

Re: [gentoo-user] Reading the (SSL) traffic with Pale Moon, WAS: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA? Youtube... Audio: No

On 161218-15:29-0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 07:43:47PM +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote > > > [So I don't understand why you] thought dbus was needed to be disabled > > by other means, than the (as yet still) unofficial repo/overlay?) > > > > Or am I missing something? > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Reading the (SSL) traffic with Pale Moon, WAS: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA? Youtube... Audio: No

On 161218-15:29-0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 07:43:47PM +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote > > > [So I don't understand why you] thought dbus was needed to be disabled > > by other means, than the (as yet still) unofficial repo/overlay?) > > > > Or am I missing something? > >

[gentoo-user] font path [WAS: xterm menu]

I managed to detect the twofold origin of my xterm-crashing-on-Ctrl+click problem: .Xresources has a line XTerm*geometry: 80x22 It should be XTerm*VT100.geometry: 80x22 It seems this is a common error (source: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xterm#Menus) The other is the font

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

On 19/12/2016 11:45, Peter Humphrey wrote: > J. Roeleveld wrote : > >> On Sunday, December 18, 2016 03:11:58 PM Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk> >> wrote : This morning I ran my usual daily update and was presented with a long list of

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage not so nonsense : solved

161218 J. Roeleveld wrote: > 161218 Philip Webb wrote: >> I want to see which pkgs might have updates available in 'testing', >> so I enter, where 'emergeu' = 'ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" emerge' >> USE="openssl qt5 text ruby_targets_ruby23 widgets gui network >> printsupport" emergeu -DNup world

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 15:35:38 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am 17.12.2016 um 14:17 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > > > I'm running the Debian 7 version of Raspbian on a number of Pis, all > > without systemd. Yes, I am happy using systemd, but I can't be arsed > > changing them when they continue to work

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

J. Roeleveld wrote : > On Sunday, December 18, 2016 03:11:58 PM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk> > wrote : > > > This morning I ran my usual daily update and was presented with a long > > > list of kde-app packages, including KMail-2. The only

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 00:36:15 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote: > > For reference did you try to write an init script for a piece of > > software in SysVInit, systemd and OpenRC to be able to compare them? > > Yes, at least I had to read a lot of them. And init scripts are really a > lot easier to