Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-20 Thread Caveman Al Toraboran
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, August 20, 2020 11:41 AM, antlists wrote: > Will that python script allow for the situation that the message is > received, but the message was NOT safely stored for onwards transmission > before the receiver crashed, and as such the message has not

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-20 Thread Jack
On 2020.08.20 20:02, Victor Ivanov wrote: On 20/08/2020 18:16, Jack wrote: >> From what I read, there is much enthusiasm  for Claws/Evolution. >> >> Sadly, this direct comparison, seems out of date and does not include >> TB-78, but it is the most comprehensive comparison I have found. A >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-20 Thread Jack
On 2020.08.20 18:42, james wrote: On 8/20/20 1:20 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 13:06:39 -0400, james wrote: Look at what I just received: From "Dear User Your Verizon✔ Version is outdated and has expired in the database as you know we are moving our Email Platform to AOl

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-20 Thread Victor Ivanov
On 20/08/2020 18:16, Jack wrote: >> From what I read, there is much enthusiasm  for Claws/Evolution. >> >> Sadly, this direct comparison, seems out of date and does not include >> TB-78, but it is the most comprehensive comparison I have found. A >> direct comparison, that is up to date, would

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-20 Thread james
On 8/20/20 1:10 PM, Jack wrote: On 8/20/20 1:06 PM, james wrote: On 8/19/20 6:16 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 14:37:30 -0400, james wrote: It was release mid July: https://blog.thunderbird.net/2020/07/whats-new-in-thunderbird-78/ Any idea where the first 'beta' version can

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-20 Thread james
On 8/20/20 1:20 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 13:06:39 -0400, james wrote: Look at what I just received: From "Dear User Your Verizon✔ Version is outdated and has expired in the database as you know we are moving our Email Platform to AOl Mail. Failure to Upgrade to the

[gentoo-user] Memory cards, device notifier and remembering sd* designations.

2020-08-20 Thread Dale
Howdy, >From previous thread, I found a program that tests memory cards and USB sticks to I think.  It might can test a hard drive too. It's called F3.  For those interested: sys-block/f3 Anyway, it writes large files until the card/stick is full then verifies the files for corruption etc. 

Re: [gentoo-user] email clients/Balsa: Was: Thunderbird 78

2020-08-20 Thread Jack
On 2020.08.20 16:11, james wrote: On 8/20/20 1:16 PM, Jack wrote: (Thunderbird, spike and slack). Others ? I've been using Balsa for years.� It was originally a gnome based app, but I use it under KDE/Plasma/openrc.� It can handle mbox, maildir, and several other storage types.� smtp,

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-20 Thread james
On 8/20/20 1:16 PM, Jack wrote: On 8/20/20 12:54 PM, james wrote: On 8/20/20 10:52 AM, Matt Connell (Gmail) wrote: On Thu, 2020-08-20 at 09:58 -0400, james wrote: Thanks. What are your, or anyone's, suggestion for other mail client software ? Limiting my suggestions to desktop software,

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 13:06:39 -0400, james wrote: > Look at what I just received: > > From > "Dear User > > Your Verizon✔ Version is outdated and has expired in the database as > you know we are moving our Email Platform to AOl Mail. > > Failure to Upgrade to the newest Verizon✔ AOL Version

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-20 Thread Jack
On 8/20/20 12:54 PM, james wrote: On 8/20/20 10:52 AM, Matt Connell (Gmail) wrote: On Thu, 2020-08-20 at 09:58 -0400, james wrote: Thanks. What are your, or anyone's, suggestion for other mail client software ? Limiting my suggestions to desktop software, since this is still the Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-20 Thread Jack
On 8/20/20 1:06 PM, james wrote: On 8/19/20 6:16 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 14:37:30 -0400, james wrote: It was release mid July: https://blog.thunderbird.net/2020/07/whats-new-in-thunderbird-78/ Any idea where the first 'beta' version can be grabbed, as an ebuild?

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-20 Thread james
On 8/19/20 6:16 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 14:37:30 -0400, james wrote: It was release mid July: https://blog.thunderbird.net/2020/07/whats-new-in-thunderbird-78/ Any idea where the first 'beta' version can be grabbed, as an ebuild? https://bugs.gentoo.org/733062

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-20 Thread james
On 8/20/20 10:52 AM, Matt Connell (Gmail) wrote: On Thu, 2020-08-20 at 09:58 -0400, james wrote: Thanks. What are your, or anyone's, suggestion for other mail client software ? Limiting my suggestions to desktop software, since this is still the Gentoo mailing list after all. If your needs

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 09:52:56 -0500, Matt Connell (Gmail) wrote: > If your needs are basic, Claws is an outstanding piece of software. > > If you're more inclined to use a terminal-based application, Mutt or > NeoMutt are both popular. > > Personally I went with Evolution, as my needs (CalDAV,

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-20 Thread Matt Connell (Gmail)
On Thu, 2020-08-20 at 09:58 -0400, james wrote: > > Thanks. What are your, or anyone's, suggestion for other mail client > software ? > Limiting my suggestions to desktop software, since this is still the Gentoo mailing list after all. If your needs are basic, Claws is an outstanding piece of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to hide a network interface from an application

2020-08-20 Thread Alexey Mishustin
чт, 20 авг. 2020 г. в 15:46, Victor Ivanov : > > On 14/08/2020 01:03, Alexey Mishustin wrote: > > groupadd noinet > > usermod -a -G noinet > > iptables -A OUTPUT -i -m owner --gid-owner noinet -j DROP > >and calling not > > Plex > >but > > sg noinet Plex > >(or whatever name the

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-20 Thread james
On 8/19/20 10:01 PM, Matt Connell (Gmail) wrote: On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 17:52 -0400, james wrote: If you like, elaboration is appreciated. In no particular order: - MailExtensions change would have broken some of the addons I use to fix deficiencies in the feature set - The change to

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird 78

2020-08-20 Thread james
On 8/19/20 6:20 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 14:37:30 -0400, james wrote: It was release mid July: https://blog.thunderbird.net/2020/07/whats-new-in-thunderbird-78/ Any idea where the first 'beta' version can be grabbed, as an ebuild? https://bugs.gentoo.org/733062

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to hide a network interface from an application

2020-08-20 Thread Victor Ivanov
On 14/08/2020 01:03, Alexey Mishustin wrote: > groupadd noinet > usermod -a -G noinet > iptables -A OUTPUT -i -m owner --gid-owner noinet -j DROP >and calling not > Plex >but > sg noinet Plex >(or whatever name the binary has) This is a very elegant generic solution, thank you for

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-20 Thread antlists
On 19/08/2020 16:19, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 7:10 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: Per protocol specification, SMTP is EXTREMELY robust. It will retry delivery, nominally once an hour, for up to five (or seven) days. That's 120-168