-Original Message-
From: Iain Buchanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:26 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub chainloader
I'm happy to leave the info vs man flamewar for someone else,
but what I _don't_ like is when
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From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:00 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
I totally agree here. (Of course, I think the Free Software vs.
Proprietary Software war is just
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From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Boom
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:35 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] [OT] English sucks (was: Re:
Installation problems)
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:44:32 +0100, Mike
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From: Stroller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:59 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
Routers:
The router issue was probably missed by a number of
people simply because in the states it is
-Original Message-
From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:42 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
If you don't like the GPLv3, you probably didn't
*really* like the GPLv2 and might be more
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From: sain yan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:11 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] ADSL network
Hi
My box can`t link to internet , I using rp-pppoe
I think it work fine, when run pppoe-start I get
internet
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From: b.n. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 6:29 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
Personally I'm quite happy with both GPLv2 and GPLv3.
Frankly, my only
real, serious concern is the fact that
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Henk Boom
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:08 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
On 16/07/07, Volker Armin Hemmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
because gplv3
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From: Abraham Marín Pérez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:43 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Volker Armin Hemmann
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Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:19 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
On Dienstag, 17. Juli 2007, Stroller wrote:
I believe that even Linus - who is noted for
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From: Volker Armin Hemmann
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On Dienstag, 17. Juli 2007, Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
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-Original Message-
From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:27 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
More than that -- they don't allow the compromised devices
to boot. Of course, that's
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From: Mike Edenfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:30 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
I'm not sure why that seems to be such a problem for GPL
proponents to
admit. It's perfectly
Who would I contact with suggestions or concerns about the mailing list?
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From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Regis Decamps
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:03 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: A List Question
Florian Philipp wrote:
Am Dienstag 15 Mai 2007 02:45 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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From: Hemmann, Volker Armin
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Moving linux system to another partition
On Freitag, 8. Juni 2007, Aleksey Kunitskiy wrote:
Hi all,
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From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 12:48 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Moving linux system to another partition
On Friday 08 June 2007, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
On Freitag, 8.
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From: Enrico Weigelt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:00 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Again: Critical bugs considered invalid
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Second: Bug
-Original Message-
From: Florian Philipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:53 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Install Using another System
Am Montag 04 Juni 2007 23:28 schrieb darren kirby:
quoth the Randy Barlow:
One
Ok, my two cents on the matter.
I am still new enough to the community to be considered an outsider,
so here is an outsider's perspective. I hope not to step on toes,
but it will probably happen anyway.
First: Cosmetic things, i.e. user interface issues, pretty pictures,
and things that
-Original Message-
From: Renat Golubchyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 6:33 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with yelp while doing
--update world
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 15:38:07 -0400 John covici [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Kevin O'Gorman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:17 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Help me reboot X
Can somebody help me stop and restart X? I'm using kdm for login.
--
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
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From: PaulNM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 1:41 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Japanese Support
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a howto for Japanese support in Gentoo?
How about
Is there a howto for Japanese support in Gentoo?
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From: Norberto Bensa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 9:29 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Unionfs for 2.6.20
Ali Polatel wrote:
You should use unionfs version 2.0 which is a part of -mm
tree. You
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From: Ali Polatel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 10:46 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Unionfs for 2.6.20
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] yazmış:
snip
I have seen many people mentioning UnionFS.
-Original Message-
From: Richard Marz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 11:40 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown -h now is not powering
down system.
No. But, I will try it now. I'll let you know if it works in
a few
-Original Message-
From: Galevsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:21 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: An XML Question
Hi,
you can learn the xml concepts at http://www.w3schools.com/.
Then, depending on the language
-Original Message-
From: Daevid Vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 5:37 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Ebuilds for the following packages are
either all masked or don't exist
Calculating world dependencies -
!!! Ebuilds
-Original Message-
From: Ryan Sims [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:40 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Test!
On 5/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: dark85x
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From: dark85x [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:06 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Test!
On Monday 28 May 2007 19:04:16 Tobias Heinlein wrote:
Hi there!
eMails rock!
irc email
--
[EMAIL
Are there any really good XML tutorials on the web, or perhaps a book
that is actually useful?
Also, which libs do people preffer for dealing with XML?
I am contemplating messing arround with XML for data files for a project
I want to mess with.
The project would involve loading objects into
-Original Message-
From: maxim wexler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:09 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] no audio
Hi group,
For a 2.6.19.5 kernel on a PIII w/SBLive soundcard
using snd-emu10k1 module. I emerged alsa-utils
Due to issues with some of the software I am wanting to run, when it is
run under the AMD64 bit version of Gentoo (one of which is Blender,
which I hope will be properly stable soon), I am planning to run x86
Gentoo (With the i686 stage3) on an AMD64 processor.
My question is this, If I enabel
-Original Message-
From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:07 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the
Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo.
On Friday 25 May 2007 02:12:49 [EMAIL
-Original Message-
From: Randy Barlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 4:23 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] which -march flag to pick for
Intel Core 2 Duo in make.conf?
Snip
If you are using a lot of memory in your
-Original Message-
From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 6:28 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the
Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo.
On Friday 25 May 2007 04:09:00 [EMAIL
-Original Message-
From: Denis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:32 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the
Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo.
What makes the difference between a 64 bit kernel, and a 32
-Original Message-
From: Florian Philipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 10:20 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Changing libaries
Hi!
I've already asked this question on gentoo-user-de but I've
got no - let's
say -
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From: Peter Alfredsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 10:55 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Semi OT: 64 bit processors, the
Linux Kernel, and x86 Gentoo.
On Friday 25 May 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: b.n. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:28 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] portage lags behind?
maxim wexler ha scritto:
How do I tell portage to go for the latest stable pkg
without having to
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From: Hemmann, Volker Armin
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Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:34 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
On Dienstag, 22. Mai 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, Here goes...
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From: Hemmann, Volker Armin
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Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 4:02 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
snip
That would also let me make sure that I have an up to date portage
-Original Message-
From: Dan Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 4:27 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
On Tue, 22 May 2007 16:13:11 +0900
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
The next
That won't work, portage will complain that there is a problem with
our world file and bail out.
Ah, thanks. I didn't realize emerge was unhappy with
packages in world which are not already installed.
Put the packages you want in a file like world then do
emerge -ef $(cat
-Original Message-
From: Dan Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 12:27 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
Not to mention you will spend much longer waiting for
everything to download then
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From: Hemmann, Volker Armin
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Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:58 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
On Mittwoch, 23. Mai 2007, Dale wrote:
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
Ok, Here goes...
How large is the package archive for gentoo, assuming a full copy of the
portage tree, and all of the source tarballs in the distfiles directory
of the average server?
Would it be possible to draw down the whole archive all in one shot
using wget or similar, dump it all
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From: Iain Buchanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 1:30 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 13:06 +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, Here goes...
If I use emerge -f on a package, will it fetch that packaged
dependencies as well?
For instance, if I use 'emerge -f xorg-x11', will it check the system,
then download
everything that it needs to install that package?
If I were to use 'emerge -uf world', would there be a huge number of
packaged
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From: Naga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 2:02 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
snip
According to some devs on -dev (IRC) last night about 50 GiB
if you want _all_
-Original Message-
From: Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 2:26 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -f
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I use emerge -f on a package, will it fetch that packaged
dependencies as well?
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From: Walter Dnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 3:33 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo and KISS ?
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 10:42:22AM +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
If a person does not wish to
-Original Message-
From: Gian Domeni Calgeer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 12:41 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [solved] Re: [gentoo-user] Xinerama on 945GM: Set
VBE mode failed
snip
Thanks for the suggestion, but if I remove them it says
Enrico Weigelt wrote:
The circular dependencies between Xserver and drivers do not come
from upstream. They're artificial. If we just want an simple-to-use
package which gets the Xserver *and* drivers based on useflags
(which IMHO is an good idea), it's quite trivial to do this by an
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From: Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:02 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular
dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs]
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From: Philip Webb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 4:26 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo and KISS ?
snip
Once you get used to it, you'll probably like Gentoo: most
people do. Those who leave usually
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From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:21 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Can't start apache [solved]
On Thursday 17 May 2007, Johannes Skov Frandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
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From: Dan Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:52 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] My only input on the subject of
circular dependencies
On Thu, 17 May 2007 09:18:40 +0900
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: Hemmann, Volker Armin
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 2:22 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular
dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs]
On Donnerstag, 17. Mai 2007,
My only input at this time (since I am a total newb when it
comes to Gentoo), is this.
I had an issue with circular dependencies, but it was because
I did not understand the intricacies of use flags at the time.
Now that I understand better, the only problem I seem to run
into is trying to get
I am new to Gentoo, and working on getting things up and going. I am
running an HP Pavilion with an Athlon 64 processor. I'll build a
desktop eventually when I have the time, but for now this is it.
I am attempting to install the x86 version of Gentoo from the i686
stage3 tarball, and so far
Do you have any advice for making sure that the Xorg install is successful?
Seems to always die during the compile process for the ati driver. ^^;;
-Original Message-
From: Vladimir Rusinov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 4:21 PM
If the tests are failing, then perhaps they are needed even more.
Also, if you are building from a stage1, you are not dealing with
non-dev builds at all.
^^;;
-Original Message-
From: Enrico Weigelt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:27 PM
To: gentoo-user
Subject:
If you have an active internet environment, use the knopix disk to
download an iso for one of the live CD's, such as the actual liveCD or
the minimal CD, and then burn to disk, and get the stage3 tarball. Or,
if you are on a different machine now, use the machine you are on now to
get the ISO if
Is there a way to select a list option so that I can get a plain text
digest? The regular list traffic produces way too many messages, but I
cannot read the digest version on my mail system because it sends it as
a bunch of .eml attachments, and the mail system strips them out (It is
at the
-Original Message-
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Q
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 12:49 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: A List Question
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[about gmane.org]
If you are just reading, you can (last
Thank you for all the input.
I will give the gmane page a try when I am able. Although that is not
an optimal option, it may still be better than just unsubscribing.
Thank you very much to all those who answered my questions. :)
-- Ken
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On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 15:37 +, James wrote:
burlingk at cv63.navy.mil writes:
Is there a way to
select a list option so that I can get a plain text digest
Strictly http and https, and only through Internet Explorer. I'll give
the gmane.org site a try when the network comes online. ^_^
If I can get enough of a connection to bring the pages up, then it may
be acceptable for reading purposes. If that is the case, then I can use
email to post.
I
What format is the digest usually sent in?
I got an email that seems to be a bunch of attatchements that had been
stripped from the message.
Is there a way to set my settings so that I get a text only digest?
Most lists I am on, that is the default, so I was surprised.
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