On Friday 08 July 2011 18:39:04 Stroller did opine thusly:
On 8 July 2011, at 16:19, Alan McKinnon wrote:
...
easy.
Two USE flags: gtk2 and gtk3
in ebuild:
DEPEND=
gtk2? (x11-libs/gtk+:2)
gtk3? (x11-libs/gtk+:3)
in src-configure() write the code such
Hi Alan and all,
On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 05:19:46PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
easy.
Two USE flags: gtk2 and gtk3
in ebuild:
DEPEND=
gtk2? (x11-libs/gtk+:2)
gtk3? (x11-libs/gtk+:3)
This doesn't account for all possible use flag settings. If I had
neither flag set, neither
On Saturday 09 July 2011 11:28:19 William Hubbs did opine thusly:
Hi Alan and all,
On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 05:19:46PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
easy.
Two USE flags: gtk2 and gtk3
in ebuild:
DEPEND=
gtk2? (x11-libs/gtk+:2)
gtk3? (x11-libs/gtk+:3)
This
On 6 July 2011, at 17:35, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Is there a secret plan in place to keep users from being able to use Gtk 2 in
packages that support both Gtk 2 and 3? And if yes, why? Is the user
considered too stupid to grasp the awesomeness of Gtk 3 so that the devs have
to force
On Friday, July 8 at 13:11 (+0100), Stroller said:
Taking a look at this bug today, is there any reason why the ebuild
shouldn't simply RDEPEND=x11-libs/gtk+ (i.e. remove the explicit dep
on gtk3), detect what version you have installed on your system and
then either run --enable-gtk3 or
On Friday 08 July 2011 09:14:36 Albert Hopkins did opine thusly:
On Friday, July 8 at 13:11 (+0100), Stroller said:
Taking a look at this bug today, is there any reason why the
ebuild shouldn't simply RDEPEND=x11-libs/gtk+ (i.e. remove
the explicit dep on gtk3), detect what version you have
On 8 July 2011, at 16:19, Alan McKinnon wrote:
...
easy.
Two USE flags: gtk2 and gtk3
in ebuild:
DEPEND=
gtk2? (x11-libs/gtk+:2)
gtk3? (x11-libs/gtk+:3)
in src-configure() write the code such that it establishes a
precedence
If both flags are set, build against gtk+:3
I'm not expert enough on this subject to be *advocating* this approach, but
this is how I would have expected it to behave:
On 8 July 2011, at 14:14, Albert Hopkins wrote:
On Friday, July 8 at 13:11 (+0100), Stroller said:
Taking a look at this bug today, is there any reason why the ebuild
On Friday, July 8 at 17:19 (+0200), Alan McKinnon said:
On Friday 08 July 2011 09:14:36 Albert Hopkins did opine thusly:
On Friday, July 8 at 13:11 (+0100), Stroller said:
Taking a look at this bug today, is there any reason why the
ebuild shouldn't simply RDEPEND=x11-libs/gtk+ (i.e.
On 8 July 2011, at 20:06, Albert Hopkins wrote:
...
I didn't want to comment on this thread (having been on both sides of
the fence). But I will say this. The best thing about Gentoo is it's a
meta-distribution. It gives you more control and more ease to do
things your way. I think
On Thursday 07 July 2011 10:12:43 微菜 did opine thusly:
Devs can do what ever they think are right. Don't argue with them
unless you pay them. Want gtk2 support? Put your ebuild in your
personal overlay.
Gentoo users have developed a certain expectation over the years,
whereby devs will take
On 7 July 2011, at 08:30, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Thursday 07 July 2011 10:12:43 微菜 did opine thusly:
Devs can do what ever they think are right. Don't argue with them
unless you pay them. Want gtk2 support? Put your ebuild in your
personal overlay.
Gentoo users have developed a certain
On 2011-07-07 09:30, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Gentoo users have developed a certain expectation over the years,
whereby devs will take user needs seriously and go to extra-ordinary
lengths to support everything under the sun.
That's what Gentoo does. That's how the system by and large works,
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:44 AM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:
On 2011-07-07 09:30, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Gentoo users have developed a certain expectation over the years,
whereby devs will take user needs seriously and go to extra-ordinary
lengths to support everything under the sun.
That's
On 07/06/11 15:37, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Wednesday 06 July 2011 19:23:51 pk did opine thusly:
On 2011-07-06 18:35, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
And what is happening to the developers lately? Some of them
have become hostile and arrogant against their own users.
I noted the same from the same
On Thursday 07 July 2011 13:42:24 Michael Orlitzky did opine thusly:
Holy shit, that attitude from Samuli sucks big balls big time.
He's always come across to me as an OK dev, never seen him pull
THAT stunt before.
For what it's worth, I was expecting much worse. In his defense,
On 07/07/11 15:36, Alan McKinnon wrote:
And what about gnome? Does that not impose a fantastic testing burden,
alongside which gnome-mplayer is small in comparison?
Yes, but the value of one's time isn't relative. If you'll allow me to
make up the numbers, just because it takes a month of
Michael Orlitzky wrote:
recompiling all day is not.
After the past several days, I can confirm this 100%. I'm on about my
third emerge -e world now. Waiting on OOo to finish.
Dale
:-) :-)
On Thursday 07 July 2011 21:47:25 Dale wrote:
Waiting on OOo to finish.
Have you not switched to LibreOffice then?
--
Rgds
Peter
Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Thursday 07 July 2011 21:47:25 Dale wrote:
Waiting on OOo to finish.
Have you not switched to LibreOffice then?
I prefer OOo. I just forgot to comment it out of my world file before
my emerge -e world this time. Sort of got a lot on my brain right
On 2011年07月08日 04:01, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 07/07/11 15:36, Alan McKinnon wrote:
And what about gnome? Does that not impose a fantastic testing burden,
alongside which gnome-mplayer is small in comparison?
Yes, but the value of one's time isn't relative. If you'll allow me to
make up
Is there a secret plan in place to keep users from being able to use Gtk
2 in packages that support both Gtk 2 and 3? And if yes, why? Is the
user considered too stupid to grasp the awesomeness of Gtk 3 so that the
devs have to force the choice upon them?
I'm talking about this:
On 2011-07-06 18:35, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
And what is happening to the developers lately? Some of them have
become hostile and arrogant against their own users.
I noted the same from the same guy a while back. Really grumpy and you
can't argue with him either... But then again, there's
On Wednesday 06 July 2011 19:35:05 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Is there a secret plan in place to keep users from being able to use Gtk2 in
packages that support both Gtk 2 and 3? And if yes, why? Is theuser
considered too stupid to grasp the awesomeness of Gtk 3 so that thedevs have
to force
On Wednesday 06 July 2011 19:23:51 pk did opine thusly:
On 2011-07-06 18:35, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
And what is happening to the developers lately? Some of them
have become hostile and arrogant against their own users.
I noted the same from the same guy a while back. Really grumpy and
On 2011-07-06 21:37, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Holy shit, that attitude from Samuli sucks big balls big time.
Yes, fully agree.
He's always come across to me as an OK dev, never seen him pull THAT
stunt before.
I've seen it, although he does come across as an OK dev to me as well.
He can argue
On Wednesday 06 July 2011 22:02:03 pk did opine thusly:
Devs get a certain amount of leeway and tolerance from users
because of what they do as volunteers. But there's a line
somewhere and in my view arbitrarily deciding to obsolete a
toolkit just because you feel
Yes, but what can we
On Wednesday 06 July 2011 22:41:25 Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Wednesday 06 July 2011 22:02:03 pk did opine thusly:
Devs get a certain amount of leeway and tolerance from users because
of what they do as volunteers. But there's a line somewhere and in my view
arbitrarily deciding to obsolete
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
and/or take the whole mess to -dev...
I couldn't care less about gtk stuff - but forcing gtk3 just because - and
that on a package where gtk3 is the worse choice... not a smart move.
This sounds like the move KDE made with KDE4. I have some gtk stuff on
On Thursday 07 July 2011 00:06:31 Dale wrote:
Deja vu ? That spelled right?
Yep (give or take the odd accent).
--
Rgds
Peter
Devs can do what ever they think are right. Don't argue with them unless
you pay them. Want gtk2 support? Put your ebuild in your personal overlay.
On 2011年07月07日 00:35, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Is there a secret plan in place to keep users from being able to use Gtk
2 in packages that support
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