Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

On Tue, 16 May 2017 04:58:44 +0200 Kai Krakow wrote: > If this is the underlying (and perfectly legitimate) problem, you need > to deploy a solution that's most easy for your users and not for you. > That may involve a custom transfer solution where they simply can drop >

[gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

On 04/25/2017 05:29 PM, lee wrote: since the usage of FTP seems to be declining, what is a replacement which is at least as good as FTP? I'm aware that there's webdav, but that's very awkward to use and missing features. Is this about security? Then the closest replacement is FTPS (aka SSL

[gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Am Mon, 15 May 2017 21:31:32 +0100 schrieb lee : > > I'm sorry, but that's only marginally more believable than claiming > > keyboards are too complicated for your users. > > Does it matter what you or I believe? Some users have difficulties > using a keyboard and/or a

[gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Am Mon, 15 May 2017 21:47:17 +0100 schrieb lee : > > Depending on what data is transferred, you should also take into > > account if your solution is certificated to transfer such data. E.g. > > medical data may only be transferred through properly certificated > > VPN

[gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Am Mon, 15 May 2017 22:14:48 +0100 schrieb lee : > Kai Krakow writes: > > > Am Sun, 14 May 2017 01:28:55 +0100 > > schrieb lee : > > > >> Kai Krakow writes: > >> > [...] > [...] > >> [...] > [...]

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

On Monday 15 May 2017 20:57:50 Kai Krakow wrote: > > Of course the server will have to be accessible over port 500 for the > > clients to be able to get to it, but this is a port forwarding/DMZ > > network configuration exercise at the server end. > > Oh wait... So I need to forward port 500 and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Kai Krakow writes: > Am Sun, 14 May 2017 01:25:24 +0100 > schrieb lee : > >> "Poison BL." writes: >> >> > On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 9:11 PM, lee wrote: >> >> >> >> "Poison BL." writes: >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Kai Krakow writes: > Am Sun, 14 May 2017 01:28:55 +0100 > schrieb lee : > >> Kai Krakow writes: >> >> > Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 22:02:51 -0400 >> > schrieb "Walter Dnes" : >> > >> >> Then there's always

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Kai Krakow writes: > Am Sun, 14 May 2017 02:18:56 +0100 > schrieb lee : > >> Kai Krakow writes: >> >> > Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:02:57 +0100 >> > schrieb lee : >> > >> >> Alan McKinnon

[gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Am Mon, 15 May 2017 08:53:15 +0100 schrieb Mick : > On Sunday 14 May 2017 11:35:29 Kai Krakow wrote: > > Am Sun, 14 May 2017 09:52:41 +0100 > > > > schrieb Mick : > > > On Saturday 13 May 2017 23:58:17 R0b0t1 wrote: > [...] > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

On Sunday 14 May 2017 11:35:29 Kai Krakow wrote: > Am Sun, 14 May 2017 09:52:41 +0100 > > schrieb Mick : > > On Saturday 13 May 2017 23:58:17 R0b0t1 wrote: > > > I had some problems setting up OpenVPN that were solved by using > > > per-client public keys. That seems to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

On Sun, 14 May 2017 02:59:41 +0100 lee wrote: > That requires shell access. Not necessarily, it just requires a competent ISP. For instance, there's no shell access on github, but there's still ssh-based sync. So you just need to have a restricted environment that only

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 4:47 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > That is only in one setup. It is possible to assign an IP address to > OpenVPN such that you will need any traffic to cross onto your LAN. > Whoops: "It is possible to assign an IP address to OpenVPN such that you will need

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 3:52 AM, Mick wrote: >> I had some problems setting up OpenVPN that were solved by using >> per-client public keys. That seems to be the best supported >> configuration (as well as the most secure). Windows-side using >> OpenVPN-GUI is very easy.

[gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Am Sun, 14 May 2017 01:25:24 +0100 schrieb lee : > "Poison BL." writes: > > > On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 9:11 PM, lee wrote: > >> > >> "Poison BL." writes: > [...] > > trust > [...] > >> > >> Why not? (12GB

[gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Am Sun, 14 May 2017 01:28:55 +0100 schrieb lee : > Kai Krakow writes: > > > Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 22:02:51 -0400 > > schrieb "Walter Dnes" : > > > >> Then there's always "sneakernet". To quote Andrew Tanenbaum from > >> 1981 > >>

[gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Am Sun, 14 May 2017 02:18:56 +0100 schrieb lee : > Kai Krakow writes: > > > Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:02:57 +0100 > > schrieb lee : > > > >> Alan McKinnon writes: > >> > [...] > [...] > [...] > >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

On Sun, 14 May 2017 02:48:46 +0100, lee wrote: > > But you could offer access via OpenVPN and tunnel samba through > > that. > > I haven't been able yet to figure out what implications creating a VPN > has. I understand it's supposed to connect networks through a secured > tunnel, but what

[gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Am Sun, 14 May 2017 09:52:41 +0100 schrieb Mick : > On Saturday 13 May 2017 23:58:17 R0b0t1 wrote: > > I had some problems setting up OpenVPN that were solved by using > > per-client public keys. That seems to be the best supported > > configuration (as well as the most

[gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Am Sun, 14 May 2017 02:48:46 +0100 schrieb lee : > Kai Krakow writes: > > > Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:30:03 +0100 > > schrieb lee : > > > >> Danny YUE writes: > >> > [...] > [...] > [...] > >> > >>

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> > These certificates are a very stupid thing. They are utterly > > complicated, you have to self-sign them which produces warnings, and > > they require to have the host name within them as if the host wasn't > > known by several different names. > > Use LetsEncrypt then, you can add any number

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

On Saturday 13 May 2017 23:58:17 R0b0t1 wrote: > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Mick wrote: > > On Monday 01 May 2017 22:36:00 Nils Freydank wrote: > >> On Sat, 30 Apr 2017 19:04:06 +0200 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > >> > [...] > >> > I fail to see why FTP needs to be

[gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Am Sun, 14 May 2017 02:59:41 +0100 schrieb lee : > Kai Krakow writes: > > > Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:38:24 +0100 > > schrieb lee : > > > >> Kai Krakow writes: > >> > [...] > [...] > [...] > >> > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Mick wrote: > On Monday 01 May 2017 22:36:00 Nils Freydank wrote: >> On Sat, 30 Apr 2017 19:04:06 +0200 Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> > [...] >> > I fail to see why FTP needs to be replaced: it works, it is >> > supported, it is secure when

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Kai Krakow writes: > Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:38:24 +0100 > schrieb lee : > >> Kai Krakow writes: >> >> > Am Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:29:18 +0100 >> > schrieb lee : >> > >> >> since the usage of FTP seems to be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Kai Krakow writes: > Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 22:02:51 -0400 > schrieb "Walter Dnes" : > >> Then there's always "sneakernet". To quote Andrew Tanenbaum from >> 1981 >> >> > Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Kai Krakow writes: > Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:30:03 +0100 > schrieb lee : > >> Danny YUE writes: >> >> > On 2017-04-25 14:29, lee wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> since the usage of FTP seems to be declining, what is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Kai Krakow writes: > Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:02:57 +0100 > schrieb lee : > >> Alan McKinnon writes: >> >> > On 25/04/2017 16:29, lee wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> since the usage of FTP seems to be declining, what is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-05-02 09:05, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > >> miles per hour, internet almost always won lately. :-) > > > But tapes also hold a lot more than they did in 1981 > > And so do trucks :-( > > -- > Please *no* private Cc:

[gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

On 2017-05-02 09:05, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> miles per hour, internet almost always won lately. :-) > But tapes also hold a lot more than they did in 1981 And so do trucks :-( -- Please *no* private Cc: on mailing lists and newsgroups Personal signed mail: please _encrypt_ and sign Don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 08:22:50 +0200, Kai Krakow wrote: > > > Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes > > > hurtling down the highway. > > Hehe, with the improvements in internet connections nowadays, we > almost stopped transferring backups via sneakernet.

[gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 22:02:51 -0400 schrieb "Walter Dnes" : > Then there's always "sneakernet". To quote Andrew Tanenbaum from > 1981 > > > Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes > > hurtling down the highway. Hehe, with the improvements in

[gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:02:57 +0100 schrieb lee : > Alan McKinnon writes: > > > On 25/04/2017 16:29, lee wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> since the usage of FTP seems to be declining, what is a replacement > >> which is at least as good as FTP? > >>

[gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:30:03 +0100 schrieb lee : > Danny YUE writes: > > > On 2017-04-25 14:29, lee wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> since the usage of FTP seems to be declining, what is a replacement > >> which is at least as good as FTP? >

[gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:38:24 +0100 schrieb lee : > Kai Krakow writes: > > > Am Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:29:18 +0100 > > schrieb lee : > > > >> since the usage of FTP seems to be declining, what is a replacement > >> which is at least as

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Kai Krakow writes: > Am Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:29:18 +0100 > schrieb lee : > >> since the usage of FTP seems to be declining, what is a replacement >> which is at least as good as FTP? >> >> I'm aware that there's webdav, but that's very awkward to use and

[gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

On 2017-04-27, Danny YUE wrote: > I recently found that rsnapshot (based on rsync) is a good and solid > tool for backup...You may try it out ;-) I second the recommendation for rsnapshot. I've been using rsnampshot for several years to backup stuff to an external Firewire

[gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

Am Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:29:18 +0100 schrieb lee : > since the usage of FTP seems to be declining, what is a replacement > which is at least as good as FTP? > > I'm aware that there's webdav, but that's very awkward to use and > missing features. If you want to sync files