Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-14 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 12 October 2009 21:13:26 I wrote: Even allowing for the smiley, this isn't true. English makes perfect sense to me. Since then my ISP's been playing silly beggars and cocked up my mail delivery so that I received nothing at all. It's fixed now but anything sent to the list

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-13 Thread Dale
Neil Walker wrote: Dale wrote: Living on disability sucks, So why do you? If the skin doesn't bother them, the income part does. You really don't have to be living like that if you don't want to. It's entirely your choice. Drop me an email at neil-at-neiljw.net if you

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 11 Oktober 2009, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 22:40:31 Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009, KH wrote: KH schrieb: Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 11 October 2009 20:21:29 Philip Webb wrote: 091011 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Paket = packet ; Paket = package Oh dear ! -- English calls such words 'false friends' ! My German-English dictionary (Langenscheidt) suggests E 'package' = G 'Pack', while E 'packet' = G 'kleines Pack'

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 11 October 2009 21:40:31 Peter Ruskin wrote: I'm 71 ... is that old enough? Too much for me - I'm only 66. Working on it though. -- Rgds Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 12 October 2009 10:09:52 Dale wrote: I'm a kid at heart. LOL Because of health issues, I feel about 70 or so. http://psoriasis.org I have most of the things that go with it. Going to the Dr is a battle. I have to sign a AMA to go home. They usually bring that after the Dr sees

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 12 October 2009 10:09:52 Dale wrote: I'm a kid at heart. LOL Because of health issues, I feel about 70 or so. http://psoriasis.org I have most of the things that go with it. Going to the Dr is a battle. I have to sign a AMA to go home. They usually

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 12 October 2009 12:13:19 Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 12 October 2009 10:09:52 Dale wrote: I'm a kid at heart. LOL Because of health issues, I feel about 70 or so. http://psoriasis.org I have most of the things that go with it. Going to the Dr is a battle. I

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 12 October 2009 12:13:19 Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 12 October 2009 10:09:52 Dale wrote: I'm a kid at heart. LOL Because of health issues, I feel about 70 or so. http://psoriasis.org I have most of the things that go with

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 12 October 2009 18:01:49 Dale wrote: All disabled folks have funny stories to relate :-) I work at an ISP and there's 1 (yes, just one) disabled bay on our entire parking level. A disabled colleague uses it but there's a special kind of idiot in the building that things his

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread pk
Alan McKinnon wrote: What he didn't know is that my colleague works in Security. He's the firewall admin, the VPN admin, the packeteer admin and all sorts of other admins too. It real funny, every day Mr. Special parks in the disabled bay, his internet doesn't work. BOFH![1] ;-) [1]

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Neil Walker
Dale wrote: Living on disability sucks, So why do you? If the skin doesn't bother them, the income part does. You really don't have to be living like that if you don't want to. It's entirely your choice. Drop me an email at neil-at-neiljw.net if you want to change things. :) Be lucky, Neil

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 12 October 2009 21:03:48 pk wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: What he didn't know is that my colleague works in Security. He's the firewall admin, the VPN admin, the packeteer admin and all sorts of other admins too. It real funny, every day Mr. Special parks in the disabled bay, his

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 11 October 2009 22:18:04 Alan McKinnon wrote: English is a mess. As a language it's worse than a pig's breakfast and makes almost no sense whatsoever to non-native speakers. Mind you, it makes about as much sense to native speakers as well :-) Even allowing for the smiley, this

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 12 October 2009 22:13:26 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 22:18:04 Alan McKinnon wrote: English is a mess. As a language it's worse than a pig's breakfast and makes almost no sense whatsoever to non-native speakers. Mind you, it makes about as much sense to native

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 11:58 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: sometimes upstream changes a packet without renaming it This got me thinking. I've been hearing the word packet used a lot lately to describe software. I always think is this a new thing or did they mean 'package'? I tried doing my

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 11 Oktober 2009, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 11:58 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: sometimes upstream changes a packet without renaming it This got me thinking. I've been hearing the word packet used a lot lately to describe software. I always think is this a

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Justin
Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 11:58 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: sometimes upstream changes a packet without renaming it This got me thinking. I've been hearing the word packet used a lot lately to describe software. I always think is this a new thing or did they mean

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 13:18 +0200, Justin wrote: I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating german words literally into english and as the the german word for package is Paket they come up with packet. Oh wow I did not know that. See I knew it had to have some

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:22:48 Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 13:18 +0200, Justin wrote: I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating german words literally into english and as the the german word for package is Paket they come up with packet. Oh

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Mick
On Sunday 11 October 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:22:48 Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 13:18 +0200, Justin wrote: I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating german words literally into english and as the the german word for

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 17:50:37 Mick wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:22:48 Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 13:18 +0200, Justin wrote: I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating german words

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 11 October 2009 15:55:47 Alan McKinnon wrote: Well, at least now we know that English contains at least one word that is less ambiguous than the German equivalent. I would not have thought it could be done. English contains many ambiguities, but if you know the current idiom they

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread KH
Justin schrieb: I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating german words literally into english and as the the german word for package is Paket they come up with packet. Hi, This is OT: I am sure I don't have the best English and I do a lot of faults. But in Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread KH
Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies. Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is. Hi, how old are you? How is the oldest person on the list?

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread KH
KH schrieb: Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies. Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is. Hi, how old are you? How is the oldest person on

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Neil Walker
Mick wrote: Packet in English is almost always correctly used to denote a format of network transmitted data (in the context of a conversation about IT and computers) which is routable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_(information_technology) The word packet also has other meanings

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Philip Webb
091011 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Paket = packet ; Paket = package Oh dear ! -- English calls such words 'false friends' ! My German-English dictionary (Langenscheidt) suggests E 'package' = G 'Pack', while E 'packet' = G 'kleines Pack' or 'Päckchen'. In English, a 'packet' calls to mind

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Philip Webb
091011 Philip Webb wrote: E 'packet' = G 'kleines Pack' or 'Päckchen'. Sorry, typo : that sb 'kleines Paket' or 'kleine Pack'. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre,

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 19:02:07 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 15:55:47 Alan McKinnon wrote: Well, at least now we know that English contains at least one word that is less ambiguous than the German equivalent. I would not have thought it could be done. English

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 22:40:31 Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009, KH wrote: KH schrieb: Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies.

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 22:40:31 Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009, KH wrote: KH schrieb: Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 23:25:02 Dale wrote: To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ... I'm 71 ... is that old enough? Oh dear. I used to call myself an old codger. At a mere sprightly 44, do I now have to downgrade myself to still wet behind the ears?

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread KH
Peter Ruskin schrieb: On Sunday 11 October 2009, KH wrote: KH schrieb: Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies. Things like its = belonging to it; it's =

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread KH
Alan McKinnon schrieb: On Sunday 11 October 2009 23:25:02 Dale wrote: To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ... I'm 71 ... is that old enough? Oh dear. I used to call myself an old codger. At a mere sprightly 44, do I now have to downgrade myself to still wet behind

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 11 Oktober 2009, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009 22:40:31 Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2009, KH wrote: KH schrieb: Peter Humphrey schrieb: The difficulty is in keeping up with the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Mike Edenfield
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 00:04 +0200, KH wrote: Peter Ruskin schrieb: I'm 71 ... is that old enough? To use a trendy idiom: That's cool. I believe the current trendy idiom (with the identical meaning) is That's hot. Thus portraying exactly the problem with our language. :x --K

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Philip Webb
091011 Mike Edenfield wrote: On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 00:04 +0200, KH wrote: Peter Ruskin schrieb: I'm 71 ... is that old enough? To use a trendy idiom: That's cool. I believe the current trendy idiom (with the identical meaning) is That's hot. Thus portraying exactly the problem with our