Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-26 Thread Elaine C. Sharpe
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: the best filesystem for you is the one you have tested and found best suits your needs. I agree with that part of what you said (which is why I've stuck with ext3 for so long), but the rest may have been a tad harsh. -- ...she kept arranging and rearranging

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-24 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wed, March 23, 2011 5:43 pm, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Wednesday 23 March 2011 14:04:23 Mr. Jarry wrote: On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: And if you don't care about barriers, jfs might be a good choice. Knowing nothing about

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Thursday 24 March 2011 08:49:52 J. Roeleveld wrote: On Wed, March 23, 2011 5:43 pm, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Wednesday 23 March 2011 14:04:23 Mr. Jarry wrote: On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: And if you don't care about

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/03/11 19:22, kashani wrote: On 3/22/2011 1:13 AM, Mr. Jarry wrote: Thanks for replies. As I had expected, they brought even more uncertainty then I had before... :-) ext3/4: I excluded them because as I understand, they do not support snapshots (only with lvm, which I do not use, and

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-23 Thread Stéphane Guedon
On Wednesday 23 March 2011 08:27:53 Alan McKinnon wrote: But considering that the thread is all about what is the best filesystem?, that too is to be expected. The very title belies a lack of understanding - the best filesystem for you is the one you have tested and found best suits your

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-23 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 23 March 2011 08:50:14 Stéphane Guedon wrote: On Wednesday 23 March 2011 08:27:53 Alan McKinnon wrote: But considering that the thread is all about what is the best filesystem?, that too is to be expected. The very title belies a lack of understanding - the best filesystem for

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-23 Thread Mr. Jarry
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: And if you don't care about barriers, jfs might be a good choice. Knowing nothing about barriers I tried to find some info and came accross this article:

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-23 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 23 March 2011 14:04:23 Mr. Jarry wrote: On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: And if you don't care about barriers, jfs might be a good choice. Knowing nothing about barriers I tried to find some info and came accross this

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-23 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 23.03.2011 14:04, schrieb Mr. Jarry: On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: And if you don't care about barriers, jfs might be a good choice. Knowing nothing about barriers I tried to find some info and came accross this article:

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-22 Thread Mr. Jarry
Thanks for replies. As I had expected, they brought even more uncertainty then I had before... :-) ext3/4: I excluded them because as I understand, they do not support snapshots (only with lvm, which I do not use, and I've hreard snapshots in lvm are not very effective, or something like that).

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 09:13:48 +0100, Mr. Jarry wrote: ext3/4: I excluded them because as I understand, they do not support snapshots (only with lvm, which I do not use, and I've hreard snapshots in lvm are not very effective, or something like that). Next minus-point, I tried resizing of

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-22 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 03/21/2011 08:32:22 PM, Jarry wrote: Hi, I'm looking for the best filesystem for a small multi-purpose server with a couple of services running (ftp, web, mail, mysql). For me very important features are: snapshot (will be used for backup, must be native without lvm) journaling

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-22 Thread Dale
Mr. Jarry wrote: Thanks for replies. As I had expected, they brought even more uncertainty then I had before... :-) ext3/4: I excluded them because as I understand, they do not support snapshots (only with lvm, which I do not use, and I've hreard snapshots in lvm are not very effective, or

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-22 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 22.03.2011 09:13, schrieb Mr. Jarry: Thanks for replies. As I had expected, they brought even more uncertainty then I had before... :-) ext3/4: I excluded them because as I understand, they do not support snapshots (only with lvm, which I do not use, and I've hreard snapshots in lvm are

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 17:05:27 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: reiserfs/reiser4: Future of these fs seems to be somehow vague, at least to me. And I do not know if it can handle snaphosts and resizing. Reiserfs-3 supports increasing the size but not shrinking (AFAIK). Performance

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-22 Thread kashani
On 3/22/2011 1:13 AM, Mr. Jarry wrote: Thanks for replies. As I had expected, they brought even more uncertainty then I had before... :-) ext3/4: I excluded them because as I understand, they do not support snapshots (only with lvm, which I do not use, and I've hreard snapshots in lvm are not

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 21 March 2011 20:32:22 Jarry wrote: Hi, I'm looking for the best filesystem for a small multi-purpose server with a couple of services running (ftp, web, mail, mysql). For me very important features are: snapshot (will be used for backup, must be native without lvm) journaling

[gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-21 Thread Jarry
Hi, I'm looking for the best filesystem for a small multi-purpose server with a couple of services running (ftp, web, mail, mysql). For me very important features are: snapshot (will be used for backup, must be native without lvm) journaling resizeable (if possible online) After a little

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-21 Thread Matthias Fechner
Am 21.03.2011 20:32, schrieb Jarry: resizeable (if possible online) I switched to ext4, it can resize in both direction. Bye Matthias -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-21 Thread Stéphane Guedon
On Monday 21 March 2011 20:32:22 Jarry wrote: Hi, I'm looking for the best filesystem for a small multi-purpose server with a couple of services running (ftp, web, mail, mysql). For me very important features are: snapshot (will be used for backup, must be native without lvm) journaling

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-21 Thread Dale
Jarry wrote: Hi, I'm looking for the best filesystem for a small multi-purpose server with a couple of services running (ftp, web, mail, mysql). For me very important features are: snapshot (will be used for backup, must be native without lvm) journaling resizeable (if possible online) After

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-21 Thread Michael Hampicke
I'm looking for the best filesystem for a small multi-purpose server with a couple of services running (ftp, web, mail, mysql). For me very important features are: Now without trying to start flame-war, my question is: which of them could be better for my need? More stable, more reliable,

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-21 Thread Thanasis
on 03/21/2011 11:52 PM Dale wrote the following: snip If you use XFS, make sure you have a UPS to prevent hard power offs. I used XFS a good while back, every time the power would fail, it was toast. I second this. My experience with xfs: a good chance you will end up with empty (zero size)

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-21 Thread Michael Hampicke
It was fast and nice Not fast on deletes. On the contrary, it was dead slow. That's about to change [1] - haven't tested it though [1] http://xfs.org/index.php/Improving_Metadata_Performance_By_Reducing_Journal_Overhead

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-21 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 21.03.2011 20:32, schrieb Jarry: Hi, I'm looking for the best filesystem for a small multi-purpose server with a couple of services running (ftp, web, mail, mysql). For me very important features are: snapshot (will be used for backup, must be native without lvm) journaling

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-21 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Jarry wrote: Hi, I'm looking for the best filesystem for a small multi-purpose server with a couple of services running (ftp, web, mail, mysql). For me very important features are: snapshot (will be used for backup, must be

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-21 Thread Amankwah
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 08:32:22PM +0100, Jarry wrote: Hi, I'm looking for the best filesystem for a small multi-purpose server with a couple of services running (ftp, web, mail, mysql). For me very important features are: snapshot (will be used for backup, must be native without lvm)

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-21 Thread Jacob Todd
I've been using xfs on a 1tb WD MyBook for storage for about a year now, and even with multiple power failures, it's been fine. It doesn't get written to as much as read to, though, and iirc i have a cron job run sync every half an hour.

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-21 Thread Dale
Jacob Todd wrote: I've been using xfs on a 1tb WD MyBook for storage for about a year now, and even with multiple power failures, it's been fine. It doesn't get written to as much as read to, though, and iirc i have a cron job run sync every half an hour. The cron job is cheating. ROFL

Re: [gentoo-user] the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?)

2011-03-21 Thread Duong Yang Ha Nguyen
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011, Paul Hartman wrote: Now for the past couple years I use ext4 everywhere and have suffered dozens of crashes and power failures without incident (laptop with dead battery and lack of power management, crazy nvidia-drivers problems on desktop machine, UPS that died during a