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From: Bob Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 August 2005 03:52
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mozilla Google behind the
scenes payola
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:19:43 +0200
Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How
Neil Bothwick schreef:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:17:40 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
Big Brother may be watching you, but you watch Big Brother-- that show
with the incredibly ironic name-- don't you?
No way!
So who are 'you' (generic)
to talk about 'privacy'? Much less as a inalienable
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 17:16:21 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
The contestants are not really selling their privacy, just performing
for pay. but even if they were, it is theirs' to give or sell, not
ours to take.
I thought that the whole point of an inalienable right was that it could
not be
-Original Message-
From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 August 2005 01:32
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mozilla Google behind the
scenes payola
[snip]
And if my theory holds water in any way, then the Mozilla Foundation
Michael Kintzios schreef:
[OT]
Holly, you mention that you have a zillion search engines incorporated
in your browser . . . 8O
Where do you get them from? How can these be added to a browser?
[/OT]
The vast majority of them come from mozdev.org itself. If you click the
search engine button
Wow! Thanks, I've bookmarked this message. :-)
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From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 August 2005 13:39
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mozilla Google behind the
scenes payola
Michael Kintzios schreef
Matt Randolph schreef:
Holly Bostick wrote:
Surfing the Internet is a lot like walking down the street.
Do you think Jane and John Doe computer users know that? Do you think
they know that what they do in Word and Outlook is private, and what
they do in Internet Explorer is public?
Holly Bostick schreef:
Matt Randolph schreef:
What if they had binoculars and a camera?
Same with a camera, but if
for some reason somebody was standing right in front of my window taking
pictures of the interior of my house, I would do the same (confront them
and ask why), then
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 08:14:26PM -0400, John J. Foster wrote:
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 05:05:34PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote:
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 03:52:10PM -0400, John J. Foster wrote:
http://www.scroogle.org/gscrape.html#ffox
Just wondering if anyone had heard of this.
Holly Bostick wrote:
Michael Kintzios schreef:
Sharing our private information (i.e. our own browsing
trends) for profit without our consent is evidently not on
This carries the assumption that our own browsing trends is, in fact,
private information, which I do not necessarily agree
Michael Kintzios wrote:
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From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 August 2005 01:32
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mozilla Google behind the
scenes payola
[snip]
And if my theory holds water in any way
Antoine schreef:
How would you feel if a company bought lots of
too-small-to-be-readily-visible flying cameras (like the mosquito-cams
in the Dan Brown book Deception Point :-)) and followed you around
wherever you went (in these public places, which would certainly
include shops but not the
Holly Bostick wrote:
I have the right to observe, and I also have
the right to record my observations,
Yes, as an individual you have that right (unless you're observing
military installations :). But Google is a company, and companies
are bound to some rules:
Benno Schulenberg wrote:
Holly Bostick wrote:
I have the right to observe, and I also have
the right to record my observations,
Yes, as an individual you have that right (unless you're observing
military installations :). But Google is a company, and companies
are bound to some
Hi,
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:30:31 +0930
Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd vote for a preference setting for prefetching:
- disable / enable / enable for the same host only
a little bit like cookie handling.
from http://www.scroogle.org/gscrape.html#ffox Fortunately, you can
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:19:43 +0200
Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How would you feel if a company bought lots of
too-small-to-be-readily-visible flying cameras (like the mosquito-cams
in the Dan Brown book Deception Point :-)) and followed you around
wherever you went (in these public
-Original Message-
From: John J. Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 August 2005 01:14
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mozilla Google behind the
scenes payola
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 05:05:34PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote:
On Tue, Aug
Michael Kintzios schreef:
Sharing our private information (i.e. our own browsing
trends) for profit without our consent is evidently not on
This carries the assumption that our own browsing trends is, in fact,
private information, which I do not necessarily agree with.
Surfing the Internet is
Hi,
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 15:52:10 -0400
John J. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just wondering if anyone had heard of this. Although, if true, it
certainly doesn't surprise me with todays corporate ethics as they are.
Just a bad mark on Mozilla.
This is to be separated:
#1: Google is
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:13:30 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
Sharing our private information (i.e. our own browsing
trends) for profit without our consent is evidently not on
This carries the assumption that our own browsing trends is, in fact,
private information, which I do not necessarily
-Original Message-
From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 August 2005 13:14
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mozilla Google behind the
scenes payola
Michael Kintzios schreef:
Sharing our private information (i.e. our own
Hi,
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:28:18 +0100
Michael Kintzios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do the cookie settings under preferences override FF/Google's preset
cookie flow?
Yep, the FF/Google cookie flow, yes. But I think you mean the cookie
flow from Google's search result pages' links? No, probably
050810 Michael Crute wrote:
the guy who wrote that silly little article is a nutcase
that is waging some weird holy war against google. His other sites are:
http://www.google-watch.org/
http://www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com/
So check those out first and that will squash what little
On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 13:51 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:13:30 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
Sharing our private information (i.e. our own browsing
trends) for profit without our consent is evidently not on
This carries the assumption that our own browsing trends
On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 15:42 +0200, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:28:18 +0100
Michael Kintzios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do the cookie settings under preferences override FF/Google's preset
cookie flow?
I'd vote for a preference setting for prefetching:
- disable
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 03:52:10PM -0400, John J. Foster wrote:
http://www.scroogle.org/gscrape.html#ffox
Just wondering if anyone had heard of this. Although, if true, it
certainly doesn't surprise me with todays corporate ethics as they are.
Just a bad mark on Mozilla.
I'm trying to
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 20:14:26 -0400
John J. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Even IF only one of those allegations are true, I'm disappointed in
Mozilla's choices. They were, until a few days ago, non-profit. Google
may be the best general purpose search engine out there right now, but
IF
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