On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2. That list is not intended for users, but for developers.
Hrm. I thought this was gentoo-user , which I thought was one of many places
(gentoo-user)'s can ask for help on various subjects.
'gentoo-user | General
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh wait, my confusion. You were possibly referring explicitly to whom should
and should not be on the linux dev ml.
( If otherwise, please do unset my fail bit i just assigned on myself )
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On Wednesday 17 September 2008 00:50:42 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
Rather, It is less objectionable for people who have accomplished a
very great deal and have greatly improved the computing environment
for the members of the corresponding mailing list. Like would not
apply as I don't know either
At Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:33:11 +0100 David Leverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 00:50:42 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
Rather, It is less objectionable for people who have accomplished a
very great deal and have greatly improved the computing environment
for the members of
At Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:24:04 +1200 Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh wait, my confusion. You were possibly referring explicitly to whom should
and should not be on the linux dev ml.
( If otherwise, please do
Mr Leverton:
Please be advised that I have initiated a formal process requesting to have
you banned from this list by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is after many requests from others for you to calm down on the list, and
two private mails from myself asking the same, both of which you have not
2008/9/17 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This is after many requests from others for you to calm down on the list
What exactly am I doing that isn't calm?
two private mails from myself asking the same, both of which you have not
answered.
I only received one, that didn't contain any
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 7:35 AM, David Leverton [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
2008/9/17 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This is after many requests from others for you to calm down on the list
*mumble mumble mumble*
two private mails from myself asking the same, both of which you have not
On Sunday 14 September 2008 22:37:21 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Making the 'official' overlay paludis-only was a BIG mistake.
It's not paludis-only, it will work with any package manager whose
developers care enough to support the useful features of the kdebuild-1
EAPI.
and that was
2008/9/16 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I didn't say they were.You're never going to convince Volker, but you may
well have succeeded in discouraging others from try Paludis.
On what grounds? The Paludis developers don't like being lied about,
therefore I won't use Paludis? I don't think
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 21:42:09 David Leverton wrote:
2008/9/16 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I didn't say they were.You're never going to convince Volker, but you may
well have succeeded in discouraging others from try Paludis.
On what grounds? The Paludis developers don't like
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:42:09 +0100, David Leverton wrote:
I didn't say they were.You're never going to convince Volker, but you
may well have succeeded in discouraging others from try Paludis.
On what grounds? The Paludis developers don't like being lied about,
therefore I won't use
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 21:04:11 Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
On Sunday 14 September 2008 22:37:21 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Making the 'official' overlay paludis-only was a BIG mistake.
It's not paludis-only, it will work with any package manager whose
developers care enough
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 20:51:43 Alan McKinnon wrote:
That is not for you to decide. The user - ANY user - is free to decide what
software they want to run and under what conditions, free from irrelevant
judgements of suitability from self-appointed arbiters of whatever.
Well, yes, I'm
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 20:54:43 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:42:09 +0100, David Leverton wrote:
I didn't say they were.You're never going to convince Volker, but you
may well have succeeded in discouraging others from try Paludis.
On what grounds?
Because you
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:15:38 +0100, David Leverton wrote:
Because your attitude was abrasive and antagonistic.
I trust these people won't be using Linux either, then?
Manners and respect are OS-agnostic.
How you say something can be more influential than what you say.
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On Tuesday 16 September 2008 22:13:01 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:15:38 +0100, David Leverton wrote:
Because your attitude was abrasive and antagonistic.
I trust these people won't be using Linux either, then?
Manners and respect are OS-agnostic.
Completely not the
At Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:33:27 +0100 David Leverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 22:13:01 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:15:38 +0100, David Leverton wrote:
Because your attitude was abrasive and antagonistic.
I trust these people won't be using Linux
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 22:39:12 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
1. You are not linus.
It's OK for people I like to do this, but not people I don't like?
2. That list is not intended for users, but for developers.
Not even slightly relevant.
3. You are not linus.
See above.
Neil Bothwick ha scritto:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:34:52 +0100, David Leverton wrote:
That was the trigger, not the point. This thread long since ceased to
have any point. All you are achieving is to discourage people from
trying Paludis if this is the kind of hassle associated with it.
My
At Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:47:57 +0100 David Leverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 22:39:12 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
1. You are not linus.
It's OK for people I like to do this, but not people I don't like?
Rather, It is less objectionable for people who have accomplished a
Am Montag 15 September 2008 00:40:04 schrieb ext Volker Armin Hemmann:
so first they attacked someone for asking for it - and then implemented it?
nice.
Sometimes people change their minds. I guess you never do?
Bye...
Dirk
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If only 4.1.1 was there... :')
You know, there's an overlay...
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Erik Hahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If only 4.1.1 was there... :')
You know, there's an overlay...
But unfortunately it requires plaudis ...
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 7:41 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mariusz Przygodzki ha scritto:
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Erik Hahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If only 4.1.1 was there... :')
You know, there's an overlay...
But unfortunately it requires plaudis ...
At what point
On Sunday 14 September 2008, Mariusz Przygodzki wrote:
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Erik Hahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If only 4.1.1 was there... :')
You know, there's an overlay...
But unfortunately it requires plaudis ...
no it does not.
kdesvn-portage has ebuilds for:
4.1.1
Not this one
layman -a kdesvn-portage
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Mariusz Przygodzki
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Erik Hahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If only 4.1.1 was there... :')
You know, there's an overlay...
But unfortunately it requires plaudis ...
On Sunday 14 September 2008 19:16:08 Mariusz Przygodzki wrote:
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Erik Hahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If only 4.1.1 was there... :')
You know, there's an overlay...
But unfortunately it requires plaudis ...
There's *two* kde overlays, developed in parallel.
On Sunday 14 September 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
Am Sonntag, 14. September 2008 19:16:08 schrieb Mariusz Przygodzki:
But unfortunately it requires plaudis ...
Why is it unfortunate?
because not everybody wants to install that bloated thing - watch it devour
config files and be insulted by
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 14 September 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
Am Sonntag, 14. September 2008 19:16:08 schrieb Mariusz Przygodzki:
But unfortunately it requires plaudis ...
Why is it unfortunate?
because not everybody wants
Mariusz Przygodzki ha scritto:
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 7:41 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mariusz Przygodzki ha scritto:
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Erik Hahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If only 4.1.1 was there... :')
You know, there's an overlay...
But unfortunately it requires
On Sunday 14 September 2008 19:28:28 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
because not everybody wants to install that bloated thing
Not bloated.
watch it devour config files
Lies.
and be insulted by the troll-brigade.
The only people who get insulted are those who repeatedly and deliberately
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:14 PM, David Leverton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 14 September 2008 19:28:28 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
'We need the features of paludis' was shown as bs.
No-one said any such thing. They did say that they were sick of waiting years
and years for Portage to
On Sunday 14 September 2008 20:27:52 Mariusz Przygodzki wrote:
Maybe they were waiting so many years because they have never
asked users about what users really need and think about it.
What?
It's not that we hate you (unless we do). It's just that we have
nothing to offer you, and you have
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:35 PM, David Leverton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 14 September 2008 20:27:52 Mariusz Przygodzki wrote:
Maybe they were waiting so many years because they have never
asked users about what users really need and think about it.
What?
It's not that we hate you
On Sunday 14 September 2008 20:38:49 Mariusz Przygodzki wrote:
No, it is NOT.
Then what is it? If you're not sniping at me (or possibly the genkdesvn team)
for being involved with Exherbo, why did you post that here?
Am Sonntag, 14. September 2008 20:28:28 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
Just another little trick by the paludis-group to
convert people.
I started using paludis long before that overlay even existed. Didn't need any
tricks.
Bye...
Dirk
On Sunday 14 September 2008, David Leverton wrote:
On Sunday 14 September 2008 19:28:28 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
because not everybody wants to install that bloated thing
Not bloated.
I am sorry:
extremly bloated.
watch it devour config files
Lies.
oh really? what happens when you
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:41 PM, David Leverton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 14 September 2008 20:38:49 Mariusz Przygodzki wrote:
No, it is NOT.
Then what is it? If you're not sniping at me (or possibly the genkdesvn team)
for being involved with Exherbo, why did you post that here?
Am Sonntag, 14. September 2008 22:37:21 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
Oh, does paludis support and equivalent to 'keep-going' or
'--ignore-failures'
Yes.
Bye...
Dirk
On Sunday 14 September 2008 21:37:21 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Sunday 14 September 2008, David Leverton wrote:
On Sunday 14 September 2008 19:28:28 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
because not everybody wants to install that bloated thing
Not bloated.
I am sorry:
extremly bloated.
I
On Sunday 14 September 2008 21:39:39 Mariusz Przygodzki wrote:
That's simple :)
The mentioned quotation is an accurate conclusion
That phrase does not make sense.
of discussion about why Gentoo users shoud use paludis to install
and test KDE4 desktop efficiently ?.
That quotation is not in
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 10:55 PM, David Leverton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 14 September 2008 21:39:39 Mariusz Przygodzki wrote:
That's simple :)
The mentioned quotation is an accurate conclusion
That phrase does not make sense.
of discussion about why Gentoo users shoud use paludis
On Sunday 14 September 2008 21:11:18 b.n. wrote:
Mariusz Przygodzki ha scritto:
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 7:41 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mariusz Przygodzki ha scritto:
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Erik Hahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If only 4.1.1 was there... :')
You know,
On Sunday 14 September 2008 21:35:08 David Leverton wrote:
On Sunday 14 September 2008 20:27:52 Mariusz Przygodzki wrote:
Maybe they were waiting so many years because they have never
asked users about what users really need and think about it.
What?
It's not that we hate you (unless we
On Sunday 14 September 2008, David Leverton wrote:
On Sunday 14 September 2008 21:37:21 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Sunday 14 September 2008, David Leverton wrote:
On Sunday 14 September 2008 19:28:28 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
because not everybody wants to install that bloated
On Sunday 14 September 2008 22:38:42 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
yeah, sure. But no. Not lies. Or why were this guys forcefully retired? For
their behaviour.
No, to prevent Gentoo from losing a major sponsor.
Also:
http://r0bertz.blogspot.com/2007/01/be-careful-when-you-are-on-paludis.html
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