Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 13 April 2010 16:49:44 Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 13 Apr, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 12 April 2010 16:55:38 Paul Hartman wrote: I've been using portage unmasked for a very long time and don't remember having any portage-related problems. I'm sure there must be some (or else

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-13 Thread Dale
Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-04-12 12:23 PM, Dale wrote: +1 I been using the latest portage for a long time too. I don't recall any problems with it and the new features sure do help. If you keyword portage, you need to do the same for its friends. Mainly gentoolkit and eix. They seem to

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 12 April 2010 16:55:38 Paul Hartman wrote: I've been using portage unmasked for a very long time and don't remember having any portage-related problems. I'm sure there must be some (or else why is it still RC?) but for me the new features are worth the potential risk of using

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-13 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 13 Apr, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 12 April 2010 16:55:38 Paul Hartman wrote: I've been using portage unmasked for a very long time and don't remember having any portage-related problems. I'm sure there must be some (or else why is it still RC?) but for me the new features are worth

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 13 April 2010 15:49:44 Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 13 Apr, Peter Humphrey wrote: As far as I know, that's the only thing preventing release of v2, and I think it's been fixed anyway. No, I don't think so. Just recently, I had to unmerge then emerge wxpython since emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-12 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:13:26 -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com: On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:11:53 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Doing system first makes good sense. Then you can update your config files,

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-12 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:06 AM, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote: Am Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:13:26 -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com: A couple of packages in this OpenRC upgrade aren't building. I hope they are less important. So far groff and help2man have failed so I did --resume

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-12 Thread Crístian Viana
when there is a bad package that won't compile for a week or two I've already seen packages doing that, but they shouldn't happen, right? :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-12 11:05 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: I use the --keep-going always, it was a great addition and especially helpful when there is a bad package that won't compile for a week or two, it makes it easier to just ignore it. Hopefully no one will mind a slight OT question, but still

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-12 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2010-04-12 11:05 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: I use the --keep-going always, it was a great addition and especially helpful when there is a bad package that won't compile for a week or two, it makes it easier to just

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-12 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2010-04-12 11:05 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: I use the --keep-going always, it was a great addition and especially helpful when there is a bad package that won't compile for a week or two,

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote: Am Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:13:26 -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com: On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:11:53 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Doing system

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-04-12 12:23 PM, Dale wrote: +1 I been using the latest portage for a long time too. I don't recall any problems with it and the new features sure do help. If you keyword portage, you need to do the same for its friends. Mainly gentoolkit and eix. They seem to go together better.

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:36:37 +0200, Damian wrote: The reason for doing so is that what is considered as unstable as been regarded as stable releases for the developers, and the truth is that the problems I got for using outdated software were more that the ones I had for using unstable

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 April 2010 20:36:37 Damian wrote: Hello, I've been using the gentoo stable branch since I began with this distro (around 4 years ago), but lately I've been unmasking almost all packages I use in my daily work (emacs, firefox, gnome*, xmonad, etc). The reason for doing so is

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Alex Schuster
Damian writes: Thus, I'm thinking about switching all of my system to the unstable branch. But first I want to be sure that this is reasonable given the problems I described before. Can you provide me some useful advice according to your experience? I have asked a similar question here, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:36:37 +0200, Damian wrote: The reason for doing so is that what is considered as unstable as been regarded as stable releases for the developers, and the truth is that the problems I got for using

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:36:37 +0200, Damian wrote: The reason for doing so is that what is considered as unstable as been regarded as stable

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:24:18 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: I have a new machine that just came up yesterday. I was thinking of running ~arch on it and seeing how things work out. Seems like it's a good time to do it if I'm ever going to as I haven't started using it and it's going to get busy. If

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:59:07 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: 1) I don't see any mention of hald dbus in the upgrade guide. I currently have them turned on. Are they still necessary? I know hald is going away one of these days. Is it too early for me to dump it. Possibly dump hald before the

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:59:07 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: 1) I don't see any mention of hald dbus in the upgrade guide. I currently have them turned on. Are they still necessary? I know hald is going away one of these

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:11:53 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Doing system first makes good sense. Then you can update your config files, follow the openrc update etc and then reboot. The world part of the update will take quite a while, especially if you use KDE or GNOME. hehe Less than

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:11:53 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Doing system first makes good sense. Then you can update your config files, follow the openrc update etc and then reboot. The world part of the update will take

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP A couple of packages in this OpenRC upgrade aren't building. I hope they are less important. So far groff and help2man have failed so I did --resume --skip-first and moved on for now. SNIP So it's done and I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP A couple of packages in this OpenRC upgrade aren't building. I hope they are less important. So far groff and help2man have failed so I did

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching to unstable

2010-04-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP So help2man won't build due to some missing perl module. I'm assuming this isn't bad enough to stop a reboot from being successful but @system is @system so no reboot until I hear something back. (Or I get bored