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2005-05-14 Thread Charles Read



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[gentoo-ppc-user] ALSA on my PowerBookG4(6,2)...newbie needs help

2005-05-14 Thread Charles Read
Hey everybody!

I just installed Gentoo on my PBG4, it is 1000MHz and about a year old.  I
used genkernel to make my kernel so according to the ALSA Howto on
Gentoo.org I should have sound support.  I have made sure that my USE
variable contains 'alsa' but when I do a 'lspci | grep -i audio' nothing
audio related shows up.  Does this mean my soundcard wasnt detected? 
Could somebody please point me in the right direction?

Thanks!!

CR


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Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] ALSA on my PowerBookG4(6, 2)...newbie needs help

2005-05-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, May 14, 2005 6:49 pm, Charles Read said:

 I just installed Gentoo on my PBG4, it is 1000MHz and about a year old.  I
 used genkernel to make my kernel so according to the ALSA Howto on
 Gentoo.org I should have sound support.  I have made sure that my USE
 variable contains 'alsa' but when I do a 'lspci | grep -i audio' nothing
 audio related shows up.  Does this mean my soundcard wasnt detected?

lspci shows nothing on my iBook G4 either, but the option you need is
SND_POWWERMAC, in Device Drivers-Sound-Alsa-ALSA Powermac devices.



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Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] ALSA on my PowerBookG4(6, 2)...newbie needs help

2005-05-14 Thread Charles Read
Thanks for the write back!  I compiled that as part of the kernel and not
a module, yet nothing is detected at startup and /proc/asound/cards shows
nothing...  how did you get it working?  How can I test to make sure that
it is in the kernel?  or does the fact that were having this convo say
that?  Thanks bunches!!!

CR


 On Sat, May 14, 2005 6:49 pm, Charles Read said:

 I just installed Gentoo on my PBG4, it is 1000MHz and about a year old.
 I
 used genkernel to make my kernel so according to the ALSA Howto on
 Gentoo.org I should have sound support.  I have made sure that my USE
 variable contains 'alsa' but when I do a 'lspci | grep -i audio' nothing
 audio related shows up.  Does this mean my soundcard wasnt detected?

 lspci shows nothing on my iBook G4 either, but the option you need is
 SND_POWWERMAC, in Device Drivers-Sound-Alsa-ALSA Powermac devices.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Which IMAP is happiest with gentoo?

2005-05-14 Thread Bill Roberts
Try http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/mb2md/

Bill Roberts

On 17:45 Fri 13 May , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for the excellent advice, Jonathan. Yes, I figured I'd have to
 move out of mbox sooner or later. I wonder if there are tools to convert
 mbox files to maildir format - I would guess yes.
 
 Michael
 
 
 On Fri, 13 May 2005, Jonathan Nichols wrote:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I already have Postfix running and I happily read email on my server,
 but I'd like to read my email on my IMAP/SSL cellphone client. I've seen
 Courier, UW, and Cyrus, and perhaps there are others. Any
 recommendations, for or against?
 
 Currently I'm the only user, but I host about a dozen friend's websites,
 and perhaps someday they too would like email, so I'd like to be able to
 grow into that, but I don't feel I need a database to support a huge
 number of clients. I support these virtual domains directly from
 Postfix.
 
 Any other things I should be thinking about, or aware of?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Michael
 
 Courier-IMAP is pretty easy to deal with. Cyrus can get.. uh.. out of 
 hand, real easily. It's overkill for many situations. the guy that wrote 
 courier is also very active on the courier-users mailing list too, which 
 is a big plus.
 
 uw-imap  the mbox format in general are outdated  sometimes dangerous, 
 imo. back in the days where emails were nice  tiny, it worked a lot 
 better..


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[gentoo-user] kernel compile using gcc 3.4.3

2005-05-14 Thread Eugene Rosenzweig
I have a machine configured to use gcc 3.4.3 and thats fine but today I 
was wondering if it is possible to do away with gcc 3.3.5. I think it is 
still used when kernel is recompiled. Now I could swear recently I read 
something in a post about overriding gcc version used to compile the 
kernel and maybe it had to do with some make.conf flag. I spent some 
time googling, searching gentoo forums (cannot seem to search for 
version numbers there) and gentoo wiki but I havent turned up much. 
Surely my searching skills have gone bad, I cannot imagine being the 
first to ask this question. What I am asking is:
0. Is there a HOWTO that I have blatantly missed?
1. Does the kernel compile with gcc and is it stable?
2. Is there a gentoo way to override compiler version used for the 
kernel compilation. If not but it is perfectly ok to compile the kernel 
with gcc 3.4 how does one get the kernel compile system to use 
particular gcc version?
3. Are there other packages that override the default gcc, maybe like ?

Thanks,
Eugene.
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[gentoo-user] encrypted dvds no longer correctly decrypted under gentoo

2005-05-14 Thread Antoine
Hi,
I was most disgusted to find that to watch a dvd I rented last night I
had to boot to doze. Luckily I just bought a new drive and had the OEM
powerdvd, cos I haven't tried to do anything with a dvd in years under doze.
I get the following error message from dvdrip 0.50.18:

...
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access
[tcprobe] DVD image/device
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access
libdvdread: Can't seek to block 2812127
libdvdread: Can't seek to block 2812127
libdvdread: Invalid IFO for title 2 (VTS_02_0.IFO).
Can't open the title 2 info file.
(probe_dvd.c) failed to probe DVD title information
[tcprobe] failed to probe source

It may be invalid but powerdvd certainly manages to read it no probs.
The problems started a couple of weeks ago but I thought they were
related to my aging dvd drive. One gets similar messages (or vaguely
anyway) when disks are scratched or dirty, and I also had problems with
the head on the other drive (I think).
It is not just transcode that has problems - neither xine nor mplayer
can play the dvds (they around 1/2-2/3 through and then bail), and most
annoyingly of all, a dumpstream on mplayer exits about 4/5s of the way
through the movie reporting success! Argh!
I thought it might be a problem with the ugly state of my portage but I
get a slightly different problem on a recently installed laptop running
gentoo ~x86. On the laptop a dumpstream gets most of the way through and
then starts transferring bytes about 8 at a time - with about 30 seconds
between reads - clearly not an option for the last 1 gig!
Seeing the problems I tried (on machine 1) remerging and the merging
~x86 versions of libdvdread and libdvdcss but no change.
Any help or even similar stories would be most appreciated.
Cheers
Antoine
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Re: [gentoo-user] hdparm HDIO_SET_DMA failed

2005-05-14 Thread Peter Karlsson
On Fri, 13 May 2005, Peter Gordon wrote:
My understanding is that the kernel will automagically configure DMA
as appropriate if you build support for the IDE controller statically,
but hdparm is needed to initialize DMA stuff if you build your IDE
controller's driver as a module. I'm not certain though. I tend to build
everything into the kernel, and I've not needed to use hdparm.
There's a whole lot more one can do with hdparm. What the kernel _can_ do 
is enable dma only. hdparm is used to set other performance enhancing 
options. My '/etc/conf.d/hdparm' contains 'hda_args=-d1A1m16u1a64' which 
means:

-d1 - enables dma for this drive (to ensure dma is set).
-A1 - enables the IDE drive's read-lookahead feature.
-m1 - set sector count to 16. This reads 16 sectors per interrupt instead 
of one. Some drives run slower with this.
-u1 - set interrupt-unmask for the drive. Can be dangerous with some 
drive/controller combinations. Allows the kernel to service other i/o 
interrupts, afaicu.
-a64 - set sector count for filesystem read-ahead to 64 sectors. A 
cache-mechanism.

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_hdparm_to_improve_IDE_device_performance
Best regards
Peter K
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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel compile using gcc 3.4.3

2005-05-14 Thread Eugene Rosenzweig
Rumen Yotov wrote:
Eugene Rosenzweig wrote:
 

I have a machine configured to use gcc 3.4.3 and thats fine but today
I was wondering if it is possible to do away with gcc 3.3.5. I think
it is still used when kernel is recompiled. Now I could swear recently
I read something in a post about overriding gcc version used to
compile the kernel and maybe it had to do with some make.conf flag. I
spent some time googling, searching gentoo forums (cannot seem to
search for version numbers there) and gentoo wiki but I havent turned
up much. Surely my searching skills have gone bad, I cannot imagine
being the first to ask this question. What I am asking is:
0. Is there a HOWTO that I have blatantly missed?
1. Does the kernel compile with gcc and is it stable?
2. Is there a gentoo way to override compiler version used for the
kernel compilation. If not but it is perfectly ok to compile the
kernel with gcc 3.4 how does one get the kernel compile system to use
particular gcc version?
3. Are there other packages that override the default gcc, maybe
like ?
Thanks,
Eugene.
   

Hi,
GCC is slotted so you can have both 3.3.5  3.4.3 (i have them too).
See gcc-config package which is a dependency of GCC-any-version.
Just run 'gcc-config -l' in order to list/see all available versions,
gcc-config -c' outputs the active one (gcc-config --help). To change
the active gcc use: gcc-config 1|2|3|..6| ..9 depending on how many gcc
versions/sub-vers. are there.
Didn't had any problems with both 3.3.53.4.3, IIRC there are some new
CFLAGS in gcc-3.4.X  (mtune ?) which could be put in 'make.conf' but
overly there're no problems with any of them.
For about half an year 3.4.x is stable for me (kernel too).
HTH. Rumen
 

Thanks, I made a mistake. I do have gcc 3.4.3 set as default and it is 
being used to compile the kernel. When I checked which compiler was 
being used during the kernel compile I ssh'ed into a gcc 3.3.5 machine 
to test it so I thought it was switching back to 3.3.5... Tragic really. :)

Eugene.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: encrypted dvds no longer correctly decrypted under gentoo

2005-05-14 Thread Holly Bostick
Antoine schreef:
I thought it might be a problem with the ugly state of my portage but I
get a slightly different problem on a recently installed laptop running
gentoo ~x86. On the laptop a dumpstream gets most of the way through and
then starts transferring bytes about 8 at a time - with about 30 seconds
between reads - clearly not an option for the last 1 gig!
Seeing the problems I tried (on machine 1) remerging and the merging
~x86 versions of libdvdread and libdvdcss but no change.
Any help or even similar stories would be most appreciated.
 
 
 Is it possible that these problems come from /usr/src/linux pointing to
 the ck sources instead of the 2.6.8 gentoo std that I am now running?
 Should I try to recompile?
 Cheers
 Antoine

I don't so much see how that could be involved. But you say these are
rented DVDs? Are they new films (such as Kingdom of Heaven, rather
than older films such as Fargo)?

The causes I see as more likely than the kernel link are:

1) dirt (rented DVDs pass through a lot of hands)

2) new encryption that libdvdcss cannot handle. After all, that
regstered encoding copy-protection business that the media providers
have been pushing/implementing (I don't follow RIAA/MPAA news that
closely) is certainly more likely to be on DVDs available for rental,
since they know that it's a source to rip DVDs. So that's where I'd
put it if I thought it was important to make it (meaning on DVDs
destined for rental outlets).

Plus, you *played* it under PowerDVD, but you didn't try to *rip* it
under Windows-- I suspect that it wouldn't work there either, and that
PowerDVD and other Windows players have the facility to bypass the copy
protection for reading, but that the DVD itself is copy-proofed
against both Windows and Linux tools.

Clearly some of them are-- I just read (not a week or two ago) about a
French claimant who won (!!) a case claiming that DVD copy protection
violated his privacy rights (he was trying to copy a DVD to a video
tape-- the story is at http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,154663,00.html ).

So clearly the technology is in use. Perhaps it's bitten you in the
figurative butt.

HTH,

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning out supposedly unmerged stuff

2005-05-14 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Walter Dnes wrote:
   Alternate subject The Ghost in the Machine.  I unmerged
 vixie-cron and emerged dcron.  
[...]
   vixie-cron |

rm /etc/init.d/vixie-cron

Unmerging vixie-cron didn't remove this script, as it falls under 
the /etc CONFIG_PROTECT.  To avoid this, some people add
/etc/init.d to CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK in make.conf.

Benno
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Re: [gentoo-user] / is full

2005-05-14 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
James wrote:
 I had not emerged a gentoo system for a while now / is filled up.
 
 Looking for large files to remove, I found in /proc:
 
 -r   1 root   root   1073672192 May 13 22:31 kcore
  
 
 I guess this is not a good file to remove?
 
 Kernel images are only this big:
 -rw---  1 root root 2298699 Apr 30 00:17 kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r6B
 
 
 the kcore file is killing a 500 M partion.
 
 Ideas on what to do?
 
 
 James
 
 
 
 
As sayd ignore it or understud it, you can look at
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt .
kcore   Kernel core image (can be ELF or A.OUT(deprecated in 2.4))

another note: your kcore is very big (five times mine) ypu may want to
optimize what is compiled in modifying the kernelconfig before to build
it (and for this google is your friend ;)

ciao francesco

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Re: [gentoo-user] XMMS Stopped Playing

2005-05-14 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 04:59:57PM -0400, Kent Borg wrote
 On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 10:50:14PM +0200, Christoph Eckert wrote:
  
   Recently xmms stopped working. 
   [...]
  Does it simply not produce audio output (but show the loaded 
  file and activity in the level meter), or does it even not 
  show the loaded file?
 
 No activity, does not show the loaded file.

  Here's what solved a problem for me.  I posted this email in early
April, so my problem was around mid-March...

==
  I emerge/updated world a couple of weeks ago.  xmms 1.2.10 no longer
handled pls streaming.  It wouldn't even respond to the old hack of
downloading the .pls file and opening it on your drive with xxms.  The
correspondence on http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85165 has the
following fix, which worked for me...

  Step 1) emerge xmms-mpg123

  Step 2) - open up xmms and go through the following menu hierarchy
  - Options = Preferences = Audio I/O plugins
  - select the MAD MPEG decoder plugin
  - uncheck the enabled button on the far right, half-way down
the menu dialog
  - click on OK
==

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[gentoo-user] ntfs mounted partition

2005-05-14 Thread Panos Laganakos
Hello,

I am mounting one of my ntfs partition from linux. The problem is though
that it is mounted readonly.

Is there some option i need to pass to fstab to make it write-able too?

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[gentoo-user] black screen (or freeze) at boot up after recompiling kernel

2005-05-14 Thread askar ...
Hello!

I made a change (checked out the driver on net card) in kernel,
recompiled, copied the bzImage and .config to /boot as usual and
rebooted the system.
But booting stops after:
---
Loading gentoo...
BIOS data check successful
---
I have black screen. Monitor lamp is green (ie. is on). Computer seeses hanged.
After that booted from live CD, and returned last changes but still
have the same problem.

Is there any hit to solve this problem.

Thanks.
askar

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Re: [gentoo-user] ntfs mounted partition

2005-05-14 Thread Tom Wesley
On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 15:06 +0300, Panos Laganakos wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am mounting one of my ntfs partition from linux. The problem is though
 that it is mounted readonly.
 
 Is there some option i need to pass to fstab to make it write-able too?
 

Read/write support for ntfs is only partially implemented and is a
separate kernel option. 

See /usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/ntfs.txt for details.


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Re: [gentoo-user] ntfs mounted partition

2005-05-14 Thread Tim Igoe
Writing to NTFS partitions is not recommended - what writing that is
supported is very limited.

Only over writing files and to exactly the same size iirc.

If you need to share data between Win and Lin, a FAT32 partition (or
network drive) is probably your best bet.

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Panos Laganakos wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am mounting one of my ntfs partition from linux. The problem is though
 that it is mounted readonly.
 
 Is there some option i need to pass to fstab to make it write-able too?
 



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Re: [gentoo-user] Zoneminder

2005-05-14 Thread Tom Wesley
On Thu, 2005-05-12 at 12:11 +, James wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Portage lists version 0.9.12. The Zoneminder web site says this version
 was issued in Jun3 2003. Version 1.21.0 as being available since March 2003.
 
 Is it safe to assume that Zoneminder has been orphaned (i.e. no maintainer)?
 How would I know if a package is not being maintained? Bugzilla did not
 seem to help in this regard
 
 
 James
 

There seems to be no metadata.xml file in the zoneminder directory, so
it is possible that it has been abandoned.  You're best bet will be to
create a bug and assign it to www-misc.

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[gentoo-user] Re: / is full

2005-05-14 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Saturday 14 May 2005 15:16, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 14 May 2005 13:04:53 +0200, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
  another note: your kcore is very big (five times mine) ypu may want
  to optimize what is compiled in modifying the kernelconfig before
  to build it (and for this google is your friend ;)

 kcore is a snapshot of your physical memory, its size is always equal
 to the amount of RAM in your computer.

*always* 
[15:24] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ ll /proc/kcore 
-r  1 root root 939528192 May 14 15:24 /proc/kcore
[15:24] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers 
cached
Mem:   15544601433900 120560  0 125208 
753836
-/+ buffers/cache: 554856 999604
Swap:   250952  0 250952

Are you sure?

Francesco

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: encrypted dvds no longer correctly decrypted under gentoo

2005-05-14 Thread Antoine

 1) dirt (rented DVDs pass through a lot of hands)
 

cleaned with special stuff - if doze can get the data then linux should
be able to too.

 2) new encryption that libdvdcss cannot handle. After all, that
 regstered encoding copy-protection business that the media providers
 have been pushing/implementing (I don't follow RIAA/MPAA news that
 closely) is certainly more likely to be on DVDs available for rental,
 since they know that it's a source to rip DVDs. So that's where I'd
 put it if I thought it was important to make it (meaning on DVDs
 destined for rental outlets).

possible, but highly unlikely. One of the dvds was quite old and I have
successfully played/ripped dvds of that vintage. Plus it would make
older dvd players no longer work.

 
 Plus, you *played* it under PowerDVD, but you didn't try to *rip* it
 under Windows-- I suspect that it wouldn't work there either, and that
 PowerDVD and other Windows players have the facility to bypass the copy
 protection for reading, but that the DVD itself is copy-proofed
 against both Windows and Linux tools.

hmmm. If the player can get the stream then so can I. The problem is
that neither mplayer nor xinelibs can get the stream. It very much
appears to be a dvdread or dvdcss problem but you never know. They are
just encrypted files, and the decryption software in powerdvd or
libdvdcss should be able to decode it.

 
 Clearly some of them are-- I just read (not a week or two ago) about a
 French claimant who won (!!) a case claiming that DVD copy protection
 violated his privacy rights (he was trying to copy a DVD to a video
 tape-- the story is at http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,154663,00.html ).
 

And guess where I live! Apparently there was some talk of encrypted dvds
no longer legally being able to be distributed here. There is a law that
says that once an author has distributed a work they must allow copy for
private personal use. That means that if I rent a dvd I am *legally*
allowed to copy it! Or that seems to be how the courts have interpreted
it. Certainly no redistribution allowed, but copy for personal use seems
to be OK.
Cheers
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: / is full

2005-05-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, May 14, 2005 2:26 pm, Francesco Talamona said:
 On Saturday 14 May 2005 15:16, Neil Bothwick wrote:

 kcore is a snapshot of your physical memory, its size is always equal
 to the amount of RAM in your computer.

 *always*
 [15:24] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ ll /proc/kcore
 -r  1 root root 939528192 May 14 15:24 /proc/kcore
 [15:24] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ free
  total   used   free sharedbuffers
 cached
 Mem:   15544601433900 120560  0 125208
 753836
 -/+ buffers/cache: 554856 999604
 Swap:   250952  0 250952

That's how I understood it, and I've never seen it to be any different.

Maybe someone can explain this, but yours is the first system I've seen
where the figures don't match.



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Re: [gentoo-user] next step X

2005-05-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On 5/13/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 13 May 2005 15:18:22 +0100, Russ Brown wrote:
 
  Say I run emerge -pvD world, and ten packages pop out.
 
  I look at the list and decide that I want to emerge all but one of the
  things on the list.
 
  How do I go about this without running an emerge command with nine
  packages passed to emerge, and causing the world file pollution
  described in this thread?
 
 emerge --oneshot package1 package2...
 
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Neil,
   Sorry - this is a bit long but there's really only two issues - why
mozilla and - why two versions of libgtkhtml? Thanks.

   I've taken one machine and worked on getting it cleaned up. This
machine is farily new and has a much more modest
/var/lib/portage/world file with about 125 entries. Before doing the
--depclean step emerge tells me

*** WARNING *** : emerge --update --deep --newuse world TO VERIFY
*** WARNING *** : SANITY IN THIS REGARD.

So I've gone through and made sure everything is updated, but I'm left
with two curious problems:


dragonfly ~ # emerge -pv --oneshot --update --deep --newuse world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild U ] gnome-extra/libgtkhtml-2.6.3 [2.6.0] -accessibility
-debug 382 kB
[ebuild  N] www-client/mozilla-1.7.8  +crypt -debug +gnome +java
-ldap -mozdevelop -moznomail -moznoxft -mozsvg -mozxmlterm -postgres
+ssl -xinerama -xprint 30,193 kB

Total size of downloads: 30,576 kB
dragonfly ~ #

The first problem is that Mozilla is not in this system and it's not
in the world file. Why is emerge trying to bring it in?

dragonfly ~ # cat /var/lib/portage/world | grep mozilla
www-client/mozilla-firefox
dragonfly ~ #



The second problem is libgtkhtml. The results looked very strange
until I discovered that there are two versions installed:

dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp libgtkhtml

 These are the packages that I would unmerge:

 gnome-extra/libgtkhtml
selected: 2.6.0 3.2.5
   protected: none
 omitted: none

 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.

dragonfly ~ #

Some commands want to update 2.6.0 to 2.6.3, while others want to
reinstall 3.2.5, and still others don't want to do anything!

dragonfly ~ # emerge -pv --oneshot --update --deep --newuse world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild U ] gnome-extra/libgtkhtml-2.6.3 [2.6.0] -accessibility
-debug 382 kB
[ebuild  N] www-client/mozilla-1.7.8  +crypt -debug +gnome +java
-ldap -mozdevelop -moznomail -moznoxft -mozsvg -mozxmlterm -postgres
+ssl -xinerama -xprint 30,193 kB

Total size of downloads: 30,576 kB
dragonfly ~ #




dragonfly ~ # emerge -pv --oneshot --update --deep --newuse libgtkhtml

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
dragonfly ~ #



dragonfly ~ # emerge -pv --oneshot libgtkhtml

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] gnome-extra/libgtkhtml-3.2.5  -debug 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
dragonfly ~ #

Very strange to me! How should I handle this one?

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] next step X

2005-05-14 Thread A. Khattri
On Sat, 14 May 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:

 dragonfly ~ # emerge -pv --oneshot --update --deep --newuse world

 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

 Calculating world dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild U ] gnome-extra/libgtkhtml-2.6.3 [2.6.0] -accessibility
 -debug 382 kB
 [ebuild  N] www-client/mozilla-1.7.8  +crypt -debug +gnome +java
 -ldap -mozdevelop -moznomail -moznoxft -mozsvg -mozxmlterm -postgres
 +ssl -xinerama -xprint 30,193 kB

 Total size of downloads: 30,576 kB
 dragonfly ~ #

 The first problem is that Mozilla is not in this system and it's not
 in the world file. Why is emerge trying to bring it in?

Add the -t flag to print the dependency tree.


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Re: [gentoo-user] next step X

2005-05-14 Thread Edward Catmur
On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 07:24 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 dragonfly ~ # emerge -pv --oneshot --update --deep --newuse world
 
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
 Calculating world dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild U ] gnome-extra/libgtkhtml-2.6.3 [2.6.0] -accessibility
 -debug 382 kB
 [ebuild  N] www-client/mozilla-1.7.8  +crypt -debug +gnome +java
 -ldap -mozdevelop -moznomail -moznoxft -mozsvg -mozxmlterm -postgres
 +ssl -xinerama -xprint 30,193 kB
 
 Total size of downloads: 30,576 kB
 dragonfly ~ #
 
 The first problem is that Mozilla is not in this system and it's not
 in the world file. Why is emerge trying to bring it in?

Something depends on mozilla. I think the standard way to find out what
is to use --tree.

 The second problem is libgtkhtml. The results looked very strange
 until I discovered that there are two versions installed:
 
 dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp libgtkhtml
 
  These are the packages that I would unmerge:
 
  gnome-extra/libgtkhtml
 selected: 2.6.0 3.2.5
protected: none
  omitted: none
 
  'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
  'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.
 
 dragonfly ~ #
 
 Some commands want to update 2.6.0 to 2.6.3, while others want to
 reinstall 3.2.5, and still others don't want to do anything!

SLOTs. Some packages depend on gtkhtml-2.6.*, while others depend on
3.*. This is because they have different APIs and libtool version
majors; and as such they can be installed in parallel and are given
different SLOTs accordingly to reflect this.

If later it turns out that the packages that required a particular
gtkhtml version no longer do so, depclean will offer to unmerge the
unused versions.

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Re: [gentoo-user] next step X

2005-05-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On 5/14/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 14 May 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:

 
  The first problem is that Mozilla is not in this system and it's not
  in the world file. Why is emerge trying to bring it in?
 
 Add the -t flag to print the dependency tree.
 

Thanks. I'm surprised that the Gnome ebuid depends on Mozilla. I have
Firefox installed. I would have hoped that would be enough.

I'm looking at installing Gnome-light instead but I'm not clear if the
emerge -C gnome step will uninstall everything and cause me to have to
completely rebuild all parts of Gnome.

Thanks for the -t idea.

With best regards,
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[gentoo-user] AMD64: vanilla-sources and the risk of using them

2005-05-14 Thread Michael Haan
I *think* I know what they are, what risk do I run by using them?

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Re: [gentoo-user] black screen (or freeze) at boot up after recompiling kernel

2005-05-14 Thread A. Khattri
On Sat, 14 May 2005, askar ... wrote:

 I made a change (checked out the driver on net card) in kernel,
 recompiled, copied the bzImage and .config to /boot as usual and
 rebooted the system.
 But booting stops after:
 ---
 Loading gentoo...
 BIOS data check successful
 ---
 I have black screen. Monitor lamp is green (ie. is on). Computer seeses 
 hanged.
 After that booted from live CD, and returned last changes but still
 have the same problem.

What does the boot config in grub.conf look like?

What is your kernel config? (/usr/src/linux/.config)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: encrypted dvds no longer correctly decrypted under gentoo

2005-05-14 Thread A. Khattri
On Sat, 14 May 2005, Antoine wrote:

 possible, but highly unlikely. One of the dvds was quite old and I have
 successfully played/ripped dvds of that vintage. Plus it would make
 older dvd players no longer work.

That's right - some of us may recall the early release of Celine Dion's
copy-protection CD that refused to play and jammed in Apple Mac CD
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Re: [gentoo-user] next step X

2005-05-14 Thread Tom Wesley
On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 07:48 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On 5/14/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, 14 May 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:
 
  
   The first problem is that Mozilla is not in this system and it's not
   in the world file. Why is emerge trying to bring it in?
  
  Add the -t flag to print the dependency tree.
  
 
 Thanks. I'm surprised that the Gnome ebuid depends on Mozilla. I have
 Firefox installed. I would have hoped that would be enough.
 
 I'm looking at installing Gnome-light instead but I'm not clear if the
 emerge -C gnome step will uninstall everything and cause me to have to
 completely rebuild all parts of Gnome.

emerge -C gnome will only remove the gnome meta-ebuild that causes the
other items to be installed.  You will then be able to install
gnome-light quite happily, without recompiling the packages you have
already installed.

The reason for the Mozilla dependency is that Epiphany uses the Gecko
(Mozilla) rendering engine and there are currently problems with other
applications using the rendering engine supplied with Firefox.  See 
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86872 for more information if
you're interested in this.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: / is full

2005-05-14 Thread david stanek
On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 02:34:35PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, May 14, 2005 2:26 pm, Francesco Talamona said:
  On Saturday 14 May 2005 15:16, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 
  kcore is a snapshot of your physical memory, its size is always equal
  to the amount of RAM in your computer.
 
  *always*
  [15:24] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ ll /proc/kcore
  -r  1 root root 939528192 May 14 15:24 /proc/kcore
  [15:24] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ free
   total   used   free sharedbuffers
  cached
  Mem:   15544601433900 120560  0 125208
  753836
  -/+ buffers/cache: 554856 999604
  Swap:   250952  0 250952
 
 That's how I understood it, and I've never seen it to be any different.
 
 Maybe someone can explain this, but yours is the first system I've seen
 where the figures don't match.

That is also the way I understand it. A simple google search turns
up lots of info, consider:
http://lists.netisland.net/archives/plug/plug-2003-08/msg00093.html
http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/papers/slinux/node57.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] hdparm HDIO_SET_DMA failed

2005-05-14 Thread Grant
  My understanding is that the kernel will automagically configure DMA
  as appropriate if you build support for the IDE controller statically,
  but hdparm is needed to initialize DMA stuff if you build your IDE
  controller's driver as a module. I'm not certain though. I tend to build
  everything into the kernel, and I've not needed to use hdparm.
 
 There's a whole lot more one can do with hdparm. What the kernel _can_ do
 is enable dma only. hdparm is used to set other performance enhancing
 options. My '/etc/conf.d/hdparm' contains 'hda_args=-d1A1m16u1a64' which
 means:
 
 -d1 - enables dma for this drive (to ensure dma is set).
 -A1 - enables the IDE drive's read-lookahead feature.
 -m1 - set sector count to 16. This reads 16 sectors per interrupt instead
 of one. Some drives run slower with this.
 -u1 - set interrupt-unmask for the drive. Can be dangerous with some
 drive/controller combinations. Allows the kernel to service other i/o
 interrupts, afaicu.
 -a64 - set sector count for filesystem read-ahead to 64 sectors. A
 cache-mechanism.

Thanks Peter.  Is your -u1 a typo?

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[gentoo-user] Error with rc-update

2005-05-14 Thread Patrick
Hi,

Everytime i run rc-update or do a /etc/init.d/xxx status i get this error ...
I have no idea where to start for solving this.

/sbin/runscript.sh: line 1: CLOCK: command not found


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[gentoo-user] Re: / is full

2005-05-14 Thread James
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes:

  another note: your kcore is very big (five times mine) ypu may want to
  optimize what is compiled in modifying the kernelconfig before to build
  it (and for this google is your friend ;)

 kcore is a snapshot of your physical memory, its size is always equal to
 the amount of RAM in your computer.

Well after googling and reading have the night, I figured that one out...
Amazingly I could find little formal documentation on kcore, in fact
it is an image of the ram

cat /proc/kcore was my final proof of satisfaction.
(sometimes I have to learn things the hard way...)

TMy problem is the /root/.ccache dir keeps filling up. I keep deleting it.

Not sure how to tame this demon..

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Re: [gentoo-user] black screen (or freeze) at boot up after recompiling kernel

2005-05-14 Thread askar ...
Thanks.
I'm using lilo.
Now I recompiled kernel again and did #lilo
After that I'm able to boot the system.
It means the clue was in lilo?

askar

On 5/14/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 14 May 2005, askar ... wrote:
 
  I made a change (checked out the driver on net card) in kernel,
  recompiled, copied the bzImage and .config to /boot as usual and
  rebooted the system.
  But booting stops after:
  ---
  Loading gentoo...
  BIOS data check successful
  ---
  I have black screen. Monitor lamp is green (ie. is on). Computer seeses 
  hanged.
  After that booted from live CD, and returned last changes but still
  have the same problem.
 
 What does the boot config in grub.conf look like?
 
 What is your kernel config? (/usr/src/linux/.config)
 
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[gentoo-user] Emerge World - lcms Fails

2005-05-14 Thread Drew Tomlinson
In an attempt to clean up my newly installed and get everything back 
to default as much as possible, I'm running 'emerge --emptytree 
world.  The build failed on lcms-1.13.  Here's the output:

*** Gentoo sanity check failed! ***
*** libtool.m4 and ltmain.sh have a version mismatch! ***
*** (libtool.m4 = 1.5.16, ltmain.sh = 1.5) ***
Please run:
 libtoolize --copy --force
OK, I did 'cd /var/tmp/portage/lcms-1.13/work/lcms-1.13' and ran 
'libtoolize --copy --force'. When subsequent 'emerge lcms' commands 
failed, I read the emerge man page.  It seemed that 'emerge --resume 
lcms' would be appropriate after doing the libtoolize thing again.  
However, it failed with the same output.

How can I resolve this issue?  And once resolved, is there anyway to 
resume the 'emerge --emptytree world' or should I just start over.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which IMAP is happiest with gentoo?

2005-05-14 Thread Stroller
On May 13, 2005, at 6:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... I figured I'd have to
move out of mbox sooner or later. I wonder if there are tools to 
convert
mbox files to maildir format - I would guess yes.
Udoubtedly so, but it's easiest just to add your new IMAP account to 
the email client on which you access your old mboxes. You can thrn just 
drag  drop messages to the server and delete the old POP3 accounts.

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Re: [gentoo-user] next step X

2005-05-14 Thread Mark Knecht
Tom  Holly,
   thanks for the responses.

On 5/14/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thanks. I'm surprised that the Gnome ebuid depends on Mozilla. I have
  Firefox installed. I would have hoped that would be enough.
 
 The gnome metapackage includes epiphany, which does depend on Mozilla.
 Evolution (also included) might depend on Mozilla as well.
 
  I'm looking at installing Gnome-light instead but I'm not clear if the
  emerge -C gnome step will uninstall everything and cause me to have to
  completely rebuild all parts of Gnome.
 
 No, it won't uninstall everything. In fact, it won't uninstall anything
 except the meta-build itself. It's kind of annoying, as I just did this
 myself, and still don't know how to clean my system of more GNOME cruft
 than the obvious (Epiphany, Mozilla, Evolution and Evolution-data-server).

Right. I'm going to take the cruft part slowly over the next couple of
days. There's no reason to rush that part as all it does is slow down
emerge world operations which I won't be doing immediately.

Like you I've removed Epiphany which took care of Mozilla, and
Evolution. I guess I need to get rid of the data-server part also.
 
 
 But in any case, I think that what uninstalling the metapackage does is
 frees the underlying packages, so you *can* uninstall them, without
 having your next emerge -u world try to drag Mozilla, Epiphany, et al
 back in (because the metapackage depends on them).
 
 Hope this helps.
 

Very much so. Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: / is full

2005-05-14 Thread Matan Peled
Peter Ruskin wrote:
 $ free
  total   used   free sharedbuffers 
 cached
 Mem:   1036512 990012  46500  0 112992 
 559844
 -/+ buffers/cache: 317176 719336
 Swap:  2104432 1388281965604
 

You guys are using HIGHMEM, aren't you?

You must be in order to utilize that 1gb of RAM :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge World - lcms Fails

2005-05-14 Thread Tim Igoe
Edit /usr/portage/media-libs/lcms/lcms-1.13.ebuild and change the line
that says 'elibtoolize' to 'libtoolize --copy --force' and try again.
That should fix it.

A quick search of forums (http://forums.gentoo.org) and bugzilla
(http://bugs.gentoo.org) would have given you the same answer.

Tim

Drew Tomlinson wrote:
 In an attempt to clean up my newly installed and get everything back
 to default as much as possible, I'm running 'emerge --emptytree
 world.  The build failed on lcms-1.13.  Here's the output:
 
 *** Gentoo sanity check failed! ***
 *** libtool.m4 and ltmain.sh have a version mismatch! ***
 *** (libtool.m4 = 1.5.16, ltmain.sh = 1.5) ***
 
 Please run:
 
  libtoolize --copy --force
 
 OK, I did 'cd /var/tmp/portage/lcms-1.13/work/lcms-1.13' and ran
 'libtoolize --copy --force'. When subsequent 'emerge lcms' commands
 failed, I read the emerge man page.  It seemed that 'emerge --resume
 lcms' would be appropriate after doing the libtoolize thing again. 
 However, it failed with the same output.
 
 How can I resolve this issue?  And once resolved, is there anyway to
 resume the 'emerge --emptytree world' or should I just start over.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Drew
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge World - lcms Fails

2005-05-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On 5/14/05, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In an attempt to clean up my newly installed and get everything back
 to default as much as possible, I'm running 'emerge --emptytree
 world.  The build failed on lcms-1.13.  Here's the output:
 
 *** Gentoo sanity check failed! ***
 *** libtool.m4 and ltmain.sh have a version mismatch! ***
 *** (libtool.m4 = 1.5.16, ltmain.sh = 1.5) ***
 
 Please run:
 
   libtoolize --copy --force
 
 OK, I did 'cd /var/tmp/portage/lcms-1.13/work/lcms-1.13' and ran
 'libtoolize --copy --force'. When subsequent 'emerge lcms' commands
 failed, I read the emerge man page.  It seemed that 'emerge --resume
 lcms' would be appropriate after doing the libtoolize thing again.
 However, it failed with the same output.
 
 How can I resolve this issue?  And once resolved, is there anyway to
 resume the 'emerge --emptytree world' or should I just start over.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Drew
 

Drew,
   There are reports on this in Bugzilla as well as a masked fix. I
would have recommended

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -pv lcms

but now that you've done the force step I'm not sure what you should do.

   In the future I'd recommend against anything that uses strong words
like force just based on how much trouble that can cause on other
distros. Maybe you can still add lcms ~x86 to package.keywords and be
OK but you'll want someone better than me to tell you yes or no on
that one.

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Re: [gentoo-user] hdparm HDIO_SET_DMA failed

2005-05-14 Thread Peter Karlsson
On Sat, 14 May 2005, Grant wrote:
Thanks Peter.  Is your -u1 a typo?
No. That option works fine, afaict, with my drive/chipset combination 
(maxtor/ich5).

Best regards
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Re: [gentoo-user] installing to VFAT partition

2005-05-14 Thread Phil Sexton
On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 21:26, THUFIR HAWAT wrote:
 On 5/13/05, Phil Sexton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [..]
  By commands, actually.  You can even install Gentoo from your 
  running Fedora installation, or from a Linux Live CD such as 
  Knoppix.
 [..]
 
 I was hoping for a screen shot to compare against anaconda.

Here is my screen shot :)

Sat May 14 12:52 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ #

Again, it uses bash commands, so I would have to show you what an x
terminal or a virtual terminal looks like with some typing in it.

Perhaps these will help:

Directory of Linux Bash Commands:
http://www.onlamp.com/linux/cmd/

Gentoo install instructions:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml

 The Gentoo Installation CDs are bootable CDs which contain a
 self-sustained Gentoo environment. They allow you to boot Linux from
 the CD. During the boot process your hardware is detected and the
 appropriate drivers are loaded. They are maintained by Gentoo
 developers.   -the handbook, 2c
 
 I'm somewhat familiar with knoppix.  when the handbook says
 self-sustained do they mean live, like knoppix?

Yes, they are what I call live CDs, since they both run from CD and
RAM.

The only difference is, with Knoppix, you can install Gentoo (or Debian
SID) from an x environment.  With the Gentoo install, you are limited to
6 virtual terminals to work with in the chroot environment.

In Knoppix, you have 3 spare virtual terminals and one x session in
which you can open as many x terminals as you wish.

I'm not sure about the Gentoo install CD (I built mine either under a
running Fedora Core 1 or using Knoppix.

I pre-partitioned my disk first with the fdisk utility, then I installed
WindowsXP, then my other distros (I quad boot Windows XP, Fedora Cores 1
and 3, and Debian Sid) and used grub for the bootloader.

Here is how I started, and this all takes root privileges:

# Make mountpoints and format partitions.
mkdir /mnt/gentoo
mkreiserfs /dev/hdb3
mount /dev/hdb3 /mnt/gentoo
mkdir /mnt/gentoo/boot
mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/gentoo/boot
mkswap /dev/hdb2
swapon
mkdir /mnt/gentoo/usr
mkreiserfs /dev/hdb5
mount /dev/hdb5 /mnt/gentoo/usr
mkdir /mnt/gentoo/opt
mkreiserfs /dev/hdb6
mount /dev/hdb6 /mnt/gentoo/opt
mkdir /mnt/gentoo/var
mkreiserfs /dev/hdb7
mount /dev/hdb7 /mnt/gentoo/var
mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home
mount /dev/hdb11 /mnt/gentoo/home
mkdir /mnt/gentoo/pub
mount /dev/hdb11 /mnt/gentoo/pub
cd /mnt/gentoo
tar -xvjpf /pub/downloads/tars/gentoo/stage3-i686-2005.0.tar.bz2
mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc
chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
env-update
source /etc/profile
# First emerges
emerge system
emerge app-portage/gentoolkit
emerge app-portage/esearch
eupdatedb

Then, emerge (i.e download, compile and install, a Gentoo bash command
most other distros lack) the other stuff you want.

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Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64: vanilla-sources and the risk of using them

2005-05-14 Thread Michael Haan
On 5/14/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Michael Haan schreef:
  I *think* I know what they are, what risk do I run by using them?
 
 
 If you think there's a risk, then I don't think you know what they are :-) .
 
 The vanilla sources are the same sources you would get on kernel.org.
 No extra patches (as you would find in gentoo-dev-sources) or
 optimizations/patches (as you would find in ck-sources) and no bleeding
 edge patches (as you would find in mm-sources).
 
 The kernel doesn't get any more risk-free than vanilla-sources, because
 if those sources are broken then Linux is broken.
 
 Holly
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I've always used gentoo-dev-sources (now gentoo-sources, correct?)
because I was under the impression that they were optimized for my
hardware (specifically, amd64).  If that's true, then I guess the
risk I was referring to was the exposure created by not having that.
 Am I wrong?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: / is full

2005-05-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 14 May 2005 18:56:11 +0300, Matan Peled wrote:

 You guys are using HIGHMEM, aren't you?
 
 You must be in order to utilize that 1gb of RAM :)

I was wondering the same. Both have the exact same size for kcore, even
though they have different amounts of physical RAM. The figure for kcore
looks rather close to the amount of memory you get on a 1GB+ machine
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[gentoo-user] ALSA on my PowerBookG4(6,2)...newbie needs help

2005-05-14 Thread Charles Read
Hey everybody!

I just installed Gentoo on my PBG4, it is 1000MHz and about a year old.  I
used genkernel to make my kernel so according to the ALSA Howto on
Gentoo.org I should have sound support.  I have made sure that my USE
variable contains 'alsa' but when I do a 'lspci | grep -i audio' nothing
audio related shows up.  Does this mean my soundcard wasnt detected?
Could somebody please point me in the right direction?

Thanks!!

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[gentoo-user] ALSA on my PowerBookG4(6,2)...newbie needs help

2005-05-14 Thread Charles Read
Hey everybody!

I just installed Gentoo on my PBG4, it is 1000MHz and about a year old.  I
used genkernel to make my kernel so according to the ALSA Howto on
Gentoo.org I should have sound support.  I have made sure that my USE
variable contains 'alsa' but when I do a 'lspci | grep -i audio' nothing
audio related shows up.  Does this mean my soundcard wasnt detected? 
Could somebody please point me in the right direction?

Thanks!!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which IMAP is happiest with gentoo?

2005-05-14 Thread THUFIR HAWAT
On 5/13/05, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 12. Mai 2005 21:10 schrieb ext [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  [Something about IMAP in an unrelated thread]
 
 Please stop thread hijacking.
...
The usenet archives, via google, intermingle this thread with some
questions I had.  That doesn't make sense, since they apparently have
different subject lines and just breeds confusion.   Since it was my
thread which you hijacked, Michael, I'm entitled to re-iterate don't
do it, and I won't say please.

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Re: [gentoo-user] hdparm HDIO_SET_DMA failed

2005-05-14 Thread Matan Peled
Peter Karlsson wrote:
 On Sat, 14 May 2005, Grant wrote:
 
 Thanks Peter.  Is your -u1 a typo?
 
 
 No. That option works fine, afaict, with my drive/chipset combination
 (maxtor/ich5).
 
 Best regards
 
 Peter K

Nice...

Any idea how to pull this off with S/ATA?

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Re: [gentoo-user] next step X

2005-05-14 Thread cfk
Gentlemen:

 Here's what I have found over the last day or so in trying to get to X 
functionality. This is with a computer with more then one distribution, and 
the others all have X functionality. The computer is an Intel 810 motherboard 
with the i810 integrated graphics device.

 I can see there is no /dev/mouse0 or /dev/agpgart on the Gentoo partition as 
there is on the Fedora partition, so part of the installation is incomplete.

 I copied the known functional /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the known functional 
Fedora X installation.

 When I invoke, startx, I get two errors. One has to do with the 
missing /dev/agpgart and the other has to do with the missing /dev/mouse0.

 I did try to follow the X Server Configuration Howto at gentoo.org with 
'emerge xorg-x11', 'env-update', 'xorgconfig' and others, but I obviously 
missed a step and my naivety is showing a little bit.

 What installation step have I missed that precluded Gentoo from creating 
these two device nodes (and perhaps some others) that keep me from getting to 
the next step, an X windows screen (forget about KDE for now, I would be 
happy just to get a pointer moving around on the screen).

Charles Krinke
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Re: [gentoo-user] next step X

2005-05-14 Thread cfk
On Saturday 14 May 2005 12:13, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On 5/14/05, cfk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I copied the known functional /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the known
  functional Fedora X installation.

 So that config is wrong for this distro. Try running the xorgconfig
 program and make your own config file for this distro.

 Good luck,
 Mark

Dear Mark:
 I started out with running xorgconfig and the result is the same. It's only 
this morning that I tried the xorg.conf from a different partition on this 
computer.

 I have figured out the mouse and it doesnt appear to be a problem anymore. 
Its the difference between /dev/mouse and /dev/input/mouse.

 Its this agpgart stuff that has me puzzled.

 I think the key issue is I dont quite know enough to properly craft an 
xorg.conf. Basically, I know enough to be dangerous, but not enough to get 
myself out of this quicksand.

Charles
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Re: [gentoo-user] Advansys SCSI Not Available on 2005.0 LiveCD

2005-05-14 Thread Richard Fish
Jonathan A. Kollasch wrote:

Apparently current kernel configurations (make menuconfig) don't have the 
Linux equivalent of the *BSD adv(4) driver.


Try:

Code maturity level options -
[*] Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers

Device Drivers -
SCSI device support -
   * SCSI device support
   SCSI low-level drivers -
  * AdvanSys SCSI support

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64: vanilla-sources and the risk of using them

2005-05-14 Thread Ian Monroe
Yea, if I understand you right, your wrong. Vanilla-sources is
optimized for your computer as well.

On 5/14/05, Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've always used gentoo-dev-sources (now gentoo-sources, correct?)
 because I was under the impression that they were optimized for my
 hardware (specifically, amd64).  If that's true, then I guess the
 risk I was referring to was the exposure created by not having that.
  Am I wrong?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] next step X

2005-05-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On 5/14/05, cfk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Saturday 14 May 2005 12:13, Mark Knecht wrote:
  On 5/14/05, cfk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I copied the known functional /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the known
   functional Fedora X installation.
 
  So that config is wrong for this distro. Try running the xorgconfig
  program and make your own config file for this distro.
 
  Good luck,
  Mark
 
 Dear Mark:
  I started out with running xorgconfig and the result is the same. It's only
 this morning that I tried the xorg.conf from a different partition on this
 computer.
 
  I have figured out the mouse and it doesnt appear to be a problem anymore.
 Its the difference between /dev/mouse and /dev/input/mouse.
 
  Its this agpgart stuff that has me puzzled.
 
  I think the key issue is I dont quite know enough to properly craft an
 xorg.conf. Basically, I know enough to be dangerous, but not enough to get
 myself out of this quicksand.
 
 Charles

Yes, it's hard at first. I admit that. Heck, I still look pretty goofy
after 2-3 years but Gentoo runs great for me almost no matter what I
do to mess it up.

I want to encourage you to use the Gentoo docs and ask questions.
Follow the docs **religously** and things will work out. Go step by
step. The docs didn't tell you to get a file from a different distro.
They tell you to run xorgconfig so let's do that and get it working.

FYI - In my laptop (where I'm writing this) my xorg.conf file has no
entries for agp at all. I do not think it's totally necessary to have
that. If you want it later then you can add it in. Just work to get X
going in a simple setup first.

if any of this is being complicated by using genkernel than that's a
bit beyond me since I do not use it.

- Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] links in Thunderbird

2005-05-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Its the equivalent of the windows format c: G.
On Sat, 14 May 2005, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2005 12:01:46 -0400 (EDT), Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
You might also check cfdisk - it presents, to me anyway, a better
layout of what I have and what I'm doing and I can work in megs, kb,
etc.
While cfdisk can be used to reset your Thunderbird configuration to
default, I'd recommend a somewhat less extreme approach :-O

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[gentoo-user] getting the tvout to work with MSI nvidia geforce 4 mx 440

2005-05-14 Thread Antoine
Hi,
I have been looking about and found a couple of good things -
unfortunately they don't seem to work. I have the latest nvidia binary
driver. I just want to watch movies on the bigger Tv, though I know that
watching movies (something about overlay) might be a big ask. Just
getting kde would be a start.
If anyone has got this to work and could give me the most basic
xorg.conf that would work I would be most appreciative.
I will need from devices down (ie, display, screen, etc) cos I have
never set up a config with more than one screen (and usually just run
xorgconfig...).
Thanks heaps
Antoine
ps. will I have to recompile mplayer/xine with xinerama?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Doubt about qt and kde flags

2005-05-14 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
This is real clear now Holy, thanks, Allan

On 5/13/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A. R. schreef:
  On 5/13/05, Allan Spagnol Comar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi All, I am having a little doubt about qt and kde user flags, I am
 using Gnome in my system but I like some kde programs, so I have gtk
 and gnome flag, should I use kde and qt flags to or should I put the
 -kde and -qt ?
 
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  Hi,
 
  It is my understanding that even if you disable those flags
  (-kde -qt) and you try to emerge a package that depends
  on kde and qt libraries, those will be compiled as well.
 
  As an example, I am running xfce4 (gtk2) and my use flags have
  -kde -qt, if I try to emerge k3b, it shows that it wants to emerge:
  (just a snippet)
 
  x11-libs/qt
  kde-base/kde-env
  kde-base/kde-libs
 
  The flags only affect what a given package is *able* to support.
 
  In this example, if I want to be able to use k3b, some
  kde and qt libraries need to be compiled so it can run,
  and that is completely different than the software
  supported by k3b that can be customized through altering
  the use flags.
 
  HTH,
 
  -AR
 
 
 This is true, but not exactly clear. Continuing with the K3b example
 (because it's a good one for this purpose), I have often compiled K3b
 without the -kde and -arts USE flags, because by preference I use GNOME
 or Openbox or IceWM, not KDE. Because K3b relies on kdelibs and qt
 before it can be compiled at all, those will be compiled when I emerge
 K3b, no matter what my USE flags say. They are required dependencies.
 
 However K3bsetup2 is an optional dependency. It is required if you want
 to integrate K3b into KDE (+kde), and sound output (the rasberry sound
 when a burn fails, the fanfare when it succeeds, etc) is an optional
 dependency that will be compiled with the +arts flag, also for
 integration with KDE. So if I am running K3b under GNOME, and thus have
 emerged it -kde and -arts, I won't have K3bsetup2 or the sound business,
 but then again, I'm running it under GNOME, so I don't actually care
 that much (I can do the setup manually if I must, and it's not worth it
 to have aRTs just to hear a fanfare when my burn succeeds). That's what
 an optional dependency is.
 
 If I don't have KDE installed, though, and try to emerge K3b +kde and
 +arts, K3b will not only emerge the required kdelibs, but also kdebase,
 because k3bsetup2 (the optional dependency added by +kde) requires that
 as well. So basically I'll get KDE, because I requested that K3b be
 integrated with KDE-- and that obviously requires that a viable KDE
 installation be present, so it will be created if it does not exist
 beforehand.
 
 So if you want your programs to have all possible integration into the
 KDE environment (perhaps you want to give it a spin, even I think that
 3.4.0 is pretty nice), then use +kde and +arts. +qt you probably want if
 you want to use QT based programs (some of which are not related to KDE,
 for instance DVD:Rip, iirc, and probably Quanta). But if you know that
 you just want some KDE based programs, but not KDE itself, you can try
 using -kde and -arts (it should always be -both, because aRTs pulls in
 KDE if present).
 
 However, you should be aware that there are not all that many KDE-based
 programs that don't require KDE to be present to run, but only the libs.
 That may have changed with the split ebuilds, but up to now the only
 ones I know of are K3b and Krusader (mostly because they're the only
 ones I use when not using KDE). It's not like you can so much install
 Konqueror without KDE, for example. But again, that may have changed.
 
 Hope this helps.
 Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: / is full

2005-05-14 Thread Sami Samhuri
* On Sat May-14-2005 at 06:01:54 PM +0100, Neil Bothwick said:
 On Sat, 14 May 2005 15:37:21 + (UTC), James wrote:
 
  TMy problem is the /root/.ccache dir keeps filling up. I keep deleting
  it.
  
  Not sure how to tame this demon..
 
 Set CCACHE_DIR in make.conf.

Also set CCACHE_SIZE in make.conf.

e.g.
CCACHE_SIZE=2G

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Re: [gentoo-user] vsftp not accepting anonymous users

2005-05-14 Thread Mark Shields
# cat vsftp.conf | grep anonymous_enable=

Make sure there's only one entry there.  It's possible that
anonymous_enable=NO is set somewhere sequentially AFTER where you set
anonymous_enable=YES, which would override your command.

On 5/13/05, Calvin Spealman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have set the anoymous_enable=YES in vsftp.conf, but it still is not
 accepting anonymous users. I have also restarted the server. I have
 tried both anonymous and ftp, using valid e-mail addresses as
 passwords. Is there another step I am missing to properly enable this?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] next step X

2005-05-14 Thread Mark Knecht
 
  So, that begs the question of where the module.ko file *might* be. Should
 genkernel have created an agpgart module somewhere
 under /lib/modules/kernel/2.6.11-gentoo-r8/drivers?

If /dev/agpgart support was not configured to be modular then it won't
exist anywhere. You must look in the kernel config file to figure this
out. However, I say this again, I do not beleive that this is required
for X to work. agpgart didn't happen until AGP devices came along. X
works with standard PCI graphics adapters and they don't use agpgart
at all.
 
  I havent found anything that looks promising.
 
  I guess I was assuming that 'genkernel' would get me far enough to let the X
 window system work, but I guess I must be wrong here.
 
You are not wrong. The kernel certainly has enough support to get X
running. Something else is going on. However you haven't posted any
results. What happens when you try to start X? Post the results? What
happens when you try to run xorgconfig? Post the results. No one here
can help by saying the same thing in 5 messages but then you don't
follow the direction.

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Re: [gentoo-user] next step X

2005-05-14 Thread Rumen Yotov
cfk wrote:
...SKIP...

On Saturday 14 May 2005 12:26, Holly Bostick wrote:
  

cfk schreef:


Dear Holly:
 What I did was to take the default 'genkernel' compilation for Gentoo a 
couple of days ago. I'm not familiar enough with the distribution to go 
further then that yet.

 So, that begs the question of where the module.ko file *might* be. Should 
genkernel have created an agpgart module somewhere 
under /lib/modules/kernel/2.6.11-gentoo-r8/drivers?

 I havent found anything that looks promising.

 I guess I was assuming that 'genkernel' would get me far enough to let the X 
window system work, but I guess I must be wrong here.

Charles
  

Hi,
Think it's a bad idea to use the default kernel-config from the
install-CD, because it includes too many features, modules in order to
boot/work on quite every system out there, the kernel will be too big
with many unused things and eventually w/o some things which you need.
To get a working X i booted from Knoppix-CD and just copied it's config
to use it later, no acceleration but it's working. Later you could
profile you kernel (read the help items in it).
First time it took me 1-2 hours just to config my first kernel, even
after that there were some omissions but not major ones, even now my
config is evolving. Have agpgart and sis-agp and my kernel-config to get
3D (nvidia).
Having active 3D in a generic-config is very rare IMHO, the install CD
is just to get you going.
HTH. Rumen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xine

2005-05-14 Thread Richard Fish
Paul wrote:

Thanks for the help Richard but after trying your suggestions I still Have the 
same problem.  This is so frustrating, I'm sure it will turn out to be 
something simple, but I just can't see it.
I still don't know what xiTK is and if it's relevent.
regards
Paul
  


xiTK refers to the XIne ToolKit, it is xine's user-interface
library, and is why I suspected a skin or visualization problem.

I have no really good idea of what to do next.  From googling around it
seems that there is no single answer to this problem.  Some more things
to try are:

1. Try different --video-driver and --audio-driver options with xine.

2. Try the ~x86 versions of xine-ui and xine-lib:
echo media-libs/xine-lib ~x86  /etc/portage/package.keywords
echo media-video/xine-ui ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords
(You'll probably have to add some other dependant packages as well...)

3. Try different GCC versions (3.3.5, 3.4.3, etc) or different
CFLAGS/-march options.

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Re: [gentoo-user] installing to VFAT partition THUFIR HAWAT

2005-05-14 Thread Robert G. Hays
[digest-mode reply]
Thufir,
For good or ill, or maybe both good *and* ill!, Gentoo is basically an 
experts-only distro.
(And STOP RIGHT THERE, flame-writers -- read the rest first.)
Gentoo gives absolutely *awesome* power, but *This* *Thing* *Is* *Dangerous* -- 
it is a loaded *and* *cocked* pistol aimed at everything on your drives if you 
are installing it and are not a seriously knowledgable Linux user.  I'm 
serious.  I'm _deadly_ serious.
Read the manual, and I suggest at *least* twice, before booting that CD you 
burned.
If you are already a reasonably (==highly!) knowledgable linux user, please 
either skip the rest or at least take it with a *packet* of salt rather than a 
grain...  If you are not, read on, and pay attention.
The danger is not Gentoo as such, but the utterly 'naked' commands being used 
by someone who does not yet understand all the 'inwardnesses' of what must be 
done.
This is not to say that a newbie or low-experience user cannot use Gentoo, but I 
would *emphatically* suggest that newbies  other lower-powered *linux* users 
need to stay away from Gentoo, or else install to a *completely* empty drive, with 
no other drives in the computer.
If you are highly knowledgable, just about all the power you could ever want is 
in here, including outright *brilliancies* that I never heard of before.  (I 
Like! :) :) :) )  And with that knowledge, Gentoo is no more 'dangerous' than 
any other linux; probably a lot less dangerous, in fact!
Read the manual (twice!) before booting that CD you burned, and if you are not 
already *very* Linux-knowledgable, this is not a good distro for you unless 
your intent is to become a linux expert in the next few weeks, by which time 
you will have a running system.  And I repeat, if you are not already 
knowledgable, use a blank or blank-ABLE drive, only!, while learning.
If you are not already powerful, other things you will need to know 
somewhat about (www.google.com/linux   and   www.LinuxQuestions.org are 
good places to look) are drives and partitions and formatting, and a 
little about TCP/IP, particularly IPv6 versus the rest of the w-w-world, 
and what your hardware and ISP provide.

Read up, and we will be happy (and *able*!) to help.
Best!,
rgh.
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Re: [gentoo-user] new virtuals setup confusion

2005-05-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On 5/14/05, Edward Catmur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 /etc/portage/profile/virtuals
 (/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/virtuals does not exist)
 /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/virtuals
 /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/virtuals
 /usr/portage/profiles/base/virtuals
 
 Obviously any settings you want to make go
 in /etc/portage/profile/virtuals.

Thanks Edward. Exactly the sort of answer I was looking for but not finding.

- Mark

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[gentoo-user] newbie's problems with Gentoo (messages on startup, installing gnuplot, running KDE)

2005-05-14 Thread Marcin Balcerzak
Hello everyone,
This 4 mails are citations from comp.os.linux.misc (I've been advised to ask
some more Gentoo-experts).  :-) I would appreciate any helpful answer.

Hi,
I've decide to send this post to: comp.os.linux.development.system,
comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.setup, comp.os.linux.x just because I'm
not a Linux-guru and thus I don't know whether my problems are somehow
linked with each other. In that way maybe
more experts will read about my problems and maybe some of them will
answer...

I'm sorry for kilobytes and any inconvenience (three sub-posts) - don't kill
me

Thanking in anticipation for your answers...

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[gentoo-user] newbie's problems with Gentoo (messages on startup, installing gnuplot, running KDE) - part 4

2005-05-14 Thread Marcin Balcerzak
THE THIRD PROBLEM concearns KDE.
I've installed everything (according to emerge...) and it doesn't work.
The only result of startkde is writing on STDERR:

xsetroot:  unable to open display ''
xset:  unable to open display 
xset:  unable to open display 
xsetroot:  unable to open display ''
startkde: Starting up...
startkde: Running kpersonalizer...
DCOP: register 'anonymous-13139' - number of clients is now 1
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-13139'
kwin: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server


that I mercily stop with ^C.
startx gives (also only on STDERR):

hostname: Unknown host

X Window System Version 6.8.2
Release Date: 9 February 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.9-gentoo-r1 i686 [ELF]
Current Operating System: Linux Shadowfax 2.6.11-gentoo-r6 #1 SMP Thu May 12
06:08:06 CEST 2005 i686
Build Date: 10 May 2005
 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
 to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sat May 14 21:15:33 2005

(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
Duplicate symbol __i686.get_pc_thunk.bx in
/usr/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a:bitmapmod.o
Also defined in /usr/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a

Fatal server error:
Module load failure


Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
  at http://wiki.X.Org
 for help.
Please also check the log file at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for additional
information.

XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0
  after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.



The listing of this Xorg.0.log:

X Window System Version 6.8.2
Release Date: 9 February 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.9-gentoo-r1 i686 [ELF]
Current Operating System: Linux Shadowfax 2.6.11-gentoo-r6 #1 SMP Thu May 12
06:08:06 CEST 2005 i686
Build Date: 10 May 2005
 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
 to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sat May 14 21:15:33 2005
(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
(II) Module ABI versions:
 X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.2
 X.Org Video Driver: 0.7
 X.Org XInput driver : 0.4
 X.Org Server Extension : 0.2
 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.4
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: bitmap
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
Duplicate symbol __i686.get_pc_thunk.bx in
/usr/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a:bitmapmod.o
Also defined in /usr/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a

Fatal server error:
Module load failure


Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
  at http://wiki.X.Org
 for help.
Please also check the log file at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for additional
information.




What should I do to make KDE to work?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which IMAP is happiest with gentoo?

2005-05-14 Thread Stroller
On May 14, 2005, at 7:20 pm, THUFIR HAWAT wrote:
On 5/13/05, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 12. Mai 2005 21:10 schrieb ext 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

[Something about IMAP in an unrelated thread]
Please stop thread hijacking.
...
The usenet archives, via google, intermingle this thread with some
questions I had.  That doesn't make sense, since they apparently have
different subject lines and just breeds confusion.   Since it was my
thread which you hijacked, Michael, I'm entitled to re-iterate don't
do it, and I won't say please.
And saying it will probably continue not to help, because you haven't 
said what thread hi-jacking is. Anyone who starts a new thread by 
replying to an old one  changing the subject is unlikely to be doing 
so out of maliciousness. Because it's so easy to start a thread the 
correct way, they're probably not even doing it out of laziness - they 
probably just don't know what difference it makes.

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[gentoo-user] DSL modem + Web Server + Home Box

2005-05-14 Thread david
My DSL modems's add is 192.168.1.254 so that is the default gateway.The
server's add is eth0/192.168.1.96 and I enabled ip pass through in the
modem to the server,works fine.Next I wanted to set up the server as a
router with a crossover cable to home box.home box address is
192.168.1.97 eth1/192.168.1.1 is set up for home box in server.I
followed this guide;
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml
and I had to swap eth0 for eth1 for me eth0 is the WAN and eth1 is the
LAN.It worked but closed port 80 so I redid iptables and added this;
(Optional) Allow access to our ssh server from the WAN
# iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport ssh -i eth1 -j ACCEPT

But I changed it to;

# iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport 80 -i eth0 -j ACCEPT
That didn't open port 80 but did close the WAN for home.So I attempted
to set up a DLink router but its configuration page is 192.168.0.1 but
I'm on 168.192.1.96 and the default gateway is 192.168.1.254 so I
couldn't even get to the configuration page.Because I have to enable ip
pass through in the modem is this why iptables is not working for me?
Should I try another router? By me opening port 80 in the modem to serve
web pages over the WAN keeping me from being able to do this?I think it
can be done it's just over my head/experence.thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which IMAP is happiest with gentoo?

2005-05-14 Thread THUFIR HAWAT
On 5/14/05, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
 And saying it will probably continue not to help, because you 
 haven't said what thread hi-jacking is. Anyone who starts a new 
 thread by replying to an old one  changing the subject is 
 unlikely to be doing so out of maliciousness. Because it's so 
 easy to start a thread the correct way, they're probably not even 
 doing it out of laziness - they probably just don't know what 
 difference it makes.
...

I brought it up again specifically because there was no
acknowledgement when Michael was first called on it.  Since I started
the first thread, I felt entitled to do so.  No, it wasn't a crime,
but the confusion it created, as I said before, is annoying.  I regret
saying anything about it, as I seem to be at fault for doing so.


Thufir

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Re: [gentoo-user] Whoops: 'rm -rf /var'

2005-05-14 Thread Bruno Lustosa
On 5/14/05, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello, I meant to execute 'rm -rf var' but I hit 'rm -rf /var'
 instead.  I realized my mistake after about 6 or 7 seconds when it was
 taking too long and I hit Ctrl+C.  Everything looks OK, but something
 must be gone.  What would you guys do in this situation?

Restore from a backup? :-)
As you are posting here, I guess that's not an option.
You are probably missing the big directories /var/db and /var/tmp.
/var/db is (at least it seems) where information about each emerged
package lies. I'm not sure which trouble you will pass without those.
Perhaps someone may enlighten you more than I.
/var/tmp is where portage compiles packages, and can be safely
deleted. I don't know about the directory structure though. Perhaps
reemerging some packages like baselayout would reconstruct them.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Whoops: 'rm -rf /var'

2005-05-14 Thread Taylor Morrow
Often times var stuff is changing, not necessarily crucial data.  I
would reboot  see if everything works.  If it does, your fine.  If
only certain programs fail, reinstall the programs.  If it fails to
boot etc. then you'll probably have to reinstall gentoo.

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Re: [gentoo-user] newbie's problems with Gentoo (messages on startup, installing gnuplot, running KDE) - part 4

2005-05-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, May 14, 2005 9:59 pm, Marcin Balcerzak said:

 (EE) Unable to locate/open config file

Have you run xorgconfig? Did it create /etc/X11/xorg.conf for you?



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Re: [gentoo-user] Which IMAP is happiest with gentoo?

2005-05-14 Thread Stroller
On May 15, 2005, at 12:07 am, THUFIR HAWAT wrote:
On 5/14/05, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
And saying it will probably continue not to help, because you
haven't said what thread hi-jacking is. Anyone who starts a new
thread by replying to an old one  changing the subject is
unlikely to be doing so out of maliciousness. ...
I brought it up again specifically because there was no
acknowledgement when Michael was first called on it.
And if accused in a mailing-list thread of dongle-flopping, many people 
would ignore that, too, not know what it means.

Since I started
the first thread, I felt entitled to do so.
Very reasonably, I'd say.
No, it wasn't a crime,
but the confusion it created, as I said before, is annoying.
Indeed.
I regret
saying anything about it, as I seem to be at fault for doing so.
No, that's not the case. But saying you hi-jacked my thread to 
someone is just likely to be ignored if they don't know WTF you're on 
about. Anyone who does so is probably ignorant of what they've done and 
the problem it causes, so bitching about it will only help if you 
EXPLAIN.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Whoops: 'rm -rf /var'

2005-05-14 Thread Grant
 Often times var stuff is changing, not necessarily crucial data.  I
 would reboot  see if everything works.  If it does, your fine.  If
 only certain programs fail, reinstall the programs.  If it fails to
 boot etc. then you'll probably have to reinstall gentoo.

Alright thanks guys.  I'm booted back up and running a browser so
that's good.  I really shouldn't be working as root.

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] Style Compile Error

2005-05-14 Thread Ian K
Ian K wrote:

Peter Gordon wrote:

  

Ian K wrote:



grep: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: No such
file or directory
/bin/sed: can't read
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: No such file or
directory
libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la'
is not a valid libtool archive
  

This problem was discussed, and (if I recall correctly) resolved on the
forums.[1] Try those solutions and see if that is fixed.


[1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2269363.html



This thread seems to pertain to emerge compilations rathre than manual ones.
Next time, please also point to the step as opposed to only the thread.
Thanks
Ian

  

Ive been waiting a while for a reply, so I am putting a reply to it.
Please suggest some ideas.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Style Compile Error

2005-05-14 Thread Peter Gordon
Ian K wrote:
Ive been waiting a while for a reply, so I am putting a reply to it.
Please suggest some ideas.
I'm sorry I've been very busy at work and with school stuff this morning
and most of yesterday, Have you tried running fix_libtool_files.sh?
# fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4
Hope that helps!
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Re: [gentoo-user] newbie's problems with Gentoo (messages on startup, installing gnuplot, running KDE) - part 2

2005-05-14 Thread Daniel Drake
Marcin Balcerzak wrote:
 When loading, just after:
 Calculating module dependencies...
 I've got 3 or 4 lines like:
 error calling: unlink in 'GLOBAL'
 and the last is ended with [OK].
 After some non-suspicious lines and
 Setting user font   [OK]
 I've got:
 action_compat: error unlinking: * No such file or directory
 where * is, consecutively: vcs6, vcsa6, vcs7, vcsa7, vcs8, vcsa8, vcs9.

These are devfs/devfsd messages. If you followed the instructions correctly,
you would have not compiled devfs into your kernel, and you'd be using udev
instead.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Style Compile Error

2005-05-14 Thread Ian K
Peter Gordon wrote:

 Ian K wrote:

 Ive been waiting a while for a reply, so I am putting a reply to it.
 Please suggest some ideas.


 I'm sorry I've been very busy at work and with school stuff this morning
 and most of yesterday, Have you tried running fix_libtool_files.sh?

 # fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4

 Hope that helps!

Great! It worked thanks so much for your help, Peter. Turns out I typed it
with the wrong syntax. Thanks Again
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[gentoo-user] apr blocking apache-2.0.54

2005-05-14 Thread Robert Persson
I am getting a conflict between apache-2.0.54 and apr which I did not get with 
apache-2.0.53.  This is what equery and emerge tell me:

zebedee root # equery l apr
[ Searching for package 'apr' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [M ] dev-libs/apr-0.9.6-r1 (0)
[I--] [M ] dev-libs/apr-util-0.9.6 (0)
zebedee root # equery l apache
[ Searching for package 'apache' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] net-www/apache-2.0.53 (2)

zebedee root # emerge -avu world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] dev-libs/apr-util (is blocking net-www/apache-2.0.54-r4)
[blocks B ] dev-libs/apr (is blocking net-www/apache-2.0.54-r4) ...


What should I do?  Should I simply unmerge apr and assume that everything will 
work, or should I do something else?

Many thanks
Robert
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[gentoo-user] Re: DSL modem + Web Server + Home Box

2005-05-14 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
david wrote:

 My DSL modems's add is 192.168.1.254 so that is the default gateway.The
 server's add is eth0/192.168.1.96 and I enabled ip pass through in the
 modem to the server,works fine.Next I wanted to set up the server as a
 router with a crossover cable to home box.home box address is
 192.168.1.97 eth1/192.168.1.1 is set up for home box in server.I
 followed this guide;

Here is what you have explained, if I understand correctly:

  (INTERNET)
   |
[   ?.?.?.?   ]
[  DSL MODEM  ]
[192.168.1.254]
   |
[192.168.1.96 ]
[LOCAL SERVER ]
[192.168.1.1  ]
   |
[192.168.1.97 ]
[  HOME BOX   ]

I'm assuming you are using 255.255.255.0 as your subnet mask.  If this is
the case, I don't know how to make it work -- but it's unnecessarily
difficult.  Try to set up this:

  (INTERNET)
   |
[   ?.?.?.?   ]
[  DSL MODEM  ]
[192.168.1.254]
   |
[192.168.1.96 ]
[LOCAL SERVER ]
[192.168.2.1  ]
   |
[192.168.2.97 ]
[  HOME BOX   ]

This puts the home box on a different sub-net.  Question:  Which one is
supposed to be the web server?

Notes:

1. The reason why they have to be on different subnets has to do with how
packages are routed.  Whenever a package is sent over the network the
computer has to route it -- like a post office.  The first the the router
looks at is the sub-net.  If your subnet is 255.255.255.0, it ignores the
last number.  If it's on the same subnet as the router, it just broadcasts
it to the network.  This is like a postmaster looking at the zip codes.  He
throws the local zip code in one pile, everything else goes to a different
pile to be sorted.  Using this analogy, you have DSL MODEM and HOME BOX in
two different zip codes and LOCAL SERVER is your postmaster.  However,
you're acting like everyone is in the same zip code, so LOCAL SERVER is
putting some of the letters in the wrong pile.

2. It appears to me odd that your DSL MODEM has an IP address, but you're
running a server behind it.  Usually, I see the DSL MODEM acting
transparently.  So the setup looks more like:

  (INTERNET)
   |
[(TRANSPARENT)]
[  DSL MODEM  ]
[(TRANSPARENT)]
   |
[ 68.23.54.12 ]
[   ROUTER]
[ 192.168.1.1 ]
   |
[192.168.1.97 ]
[ WORKSTATION ]

If you can set this up, it further simplifies your network arrangement.

3. If you're trying to give internet access to HOME BOX, you will have to
set up LOCAL SERVER with NAT.  This is especially true if HOME BOX is
actually supposed to be the web server.

 and I had to swap eth0 for eth1 for me eth0 is the WAN and eth1 is the
 LAN.It worked but closed port 80 so I redid iptables and added this;

I got lost in all this.  Are you running Apache on one of the machines?

 Should I try another router? By me opening port 80 in the modem to serve
 web pages over the WAN keeping me from being able to do this?I think it
 can be done it's just over my head/experence.thanks

Well, if you're just trying to get a router for a LAN, the WAL-MART
off-the-shelf routers work great, with minimal setup.  They also allow you
to forward ports to specific computers on your network to act as servers.

HTH!


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