Re: [gentoo-user] Error Message about network interfaces

2007-10-24 Thread Zsitvai János
Hi,

Try ifplugd, it Brings up/down ethernet ports automatically with cable 
detection.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Error Message about network interfaces

2007-10-24 Thread twang . umn
On 08:55 Wed 24 Oct , Zsitvai János wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Try ifplugd, it Brings up/down ethernet ports automatically with cable 
 detection.
Yes, I did use ifplugd. And it works great. But I still have the error message 
when booting. I have no clue how to get rid of it. I guess if I did not plug in 
the cable, eth0 cannot be activated. So I will always have that message. My 
quesion is: is there any config file related to this problem.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Error Message about network interfaces

2007-10-24 Thread twang . umn
On 23:58 Tue 23 Oct , Dan Farrell wrote:
 On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:30:38 -0500
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  
  I own a Thinkpad T60 laptop. It has both wireless and wired network
  support. But when booting, if I just use wireless ( without plugging
  wire), it will give an error: eth0 network interfaces does not exists.
  
  Actually, it was not a big problem before. But now I am using
  fbsplash. After swithing to graphic terminal, the booting will stop
  at the error message. I need to go back to tty, and then booting
  continues.
  
  Does anyone know how to get rid of the error message. Since I use
  wire or wireless like 50 to 50, I don't want to remvoe net.eth0 from
  runlevel scripts.
  
  Any suggestion is appreciated, and thank you in advance.
  
 just a guess, but have you looked at RC_NET_STRICT_CHECKING
 in /etc/init.d/rc ? 

Yes, I did. Several days ago, I was bothered by ntpd and sshd, etc. I got the 
warning when starting up. So I set it to lo. Is there anything else I can try?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux WPA/TKIP

2007-10-24 Thread twang . umn
On 12:59 Mon 22 Oct , Vladimir Rusinov wrote:
 
 
 On 10/22/07, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Am Montag, 22. Oktober 2007 schrieb ext Vladimir Rusinov:
  Доброго времени суток!
  [...]
 
 Could somebody translate this, please?
 
 
 Damit, wrong list again. :(
 
 Here is translation:
 
 We have corporate wireless network with WPA/TKIP auth via windows domain
 (win2k3).
 The question is how to setup Linux to log in this network.
 

Why don't you look at the gentoo handbook. I suggest you use wpa_supplicant. It 
works awesome, at least for me.

Just want to remind you, if you are using wpa2, maybe you need set proto to 
RSN. Since I did notice that, I spent a couple of weeks on that.
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[gentoo-user] Alsa kernel driver problem

2007-10-24 Thread Adam Carter
Alsaconf doesnt find any sound devices, however modules (in particular
snd_via82xx) are loaded;
 
localhost linux # lsmod | grep snd
snd_pcm_oss29664  0 
snd_mixer_oss  12160  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy   1988  0 
snd_seq_oss21824  0 
snd_seq_midi_event  3584  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq30864  5
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_via82xx_modem   9736  0 
snd_via82xx18324  0 
snd_ac97_codec 71268  2 snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx
snd_pcm44424  4
snd_pcm_oss,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer  14596  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc  6280  3 snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx,snd_pcm
snd_mpu401_uart 4864  1 snd_via82xx
snd_rawmidi14560  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device  4364  4
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd29860  12
snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via8
2xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
_device
ac97_bus1152  1 snd_ac97_codec

If i try to run /etc/init.d/alsasound
 
localhost linux # /etc/init.d/alsasound start
 * Loading ALSA modules ...
 *   Could not detect custom ALSA settings.  Loading all detected alsa
drivers.
 *   Loading: snd_via82xx ...
[ ok ]
 *   Loading: snd_via82xx_modem ...
[ ok ]
 *   Loading: snd-seq-oss ...
[ ok ]
 *   Loading: snd-pcm-oss ...
[ ok ]
 *   ERROR: Failed to load necessary drivers
[ ok ]
 * Restoring Mixer Levels ...
 * No mixer config in /var/lib/alsa/asound.state, you have to unmute you
[ ok ]

alsa-driver is not recommended so i'm avoiding it. Is that my only
option to try to fix this?
 
tnx
Adam


Re: [gentoo-user] fbsplash

2007-10-24 Thread twang . umn
On 20:00 Mon 22 Oct , Mick wrote:
 On Monday 22 October 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It works now.
 
  Thanks!!
 
  I am just curious: can we just delete /etc/conf.d/splash file?
 
 I still have mine, but had to remove splash from the rc-update default level.
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 Mick

What is you error? Does the booting just stop at a certain point? Since I found 
that if I got an error message, the booting will pause until you go back to 
that terminal. But I have no clue to solve that problem.

If you just want to get rid of bufferframe at tty 8,9. I think you need set the 
value as 
SPLASH_TTYS=1 2 3 4 5 6


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 23 October 2007, Dan Farrell wrote:
 On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:12:07 -0400

 Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Forwarding echo request/response packets (ICMP), maybe?

 Yeah, that's what I thought, too.  But wouldn't that require an IP?  Or
 at least -- at the very least -- a MAC address for Ethernet-layer
 transmission of some kind?

Thanks guys.  The AP has a reserved static LAN IP address on the router 
(10.10.10.13).  It also has a MAC.  So it is simply a matter of forwarding 
(all) ICMP echo-reply packets that arrive from the Internet to that LAN 
address. (On this implementation the AP is itself a Linksys wireless router).

I wonder if I can play tricks with ping's ICMP headers to differentiate 
between them as they come into the router, or something clever that I haven't 
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Re: [gentoo-user] qemu video driver

2007-10-24 Thread pat
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:12:09 +0200, Wayn0 wrote
 pat wrote:
  On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:30:50 +0200, Wayn0 wrote
  pat wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I'm playing with qemu on windows and I've installed Gentoo into it. Now
I want
  to setup X.org, but have no idea which video driver should I use. Can
someone
  help?
 
  Thanks a lot
 
   Pat
  The vesa driver should work.
 
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  I've tried but without success :-( The generated config and log file are
  included. I've googled but without success too ... .
  
  Thanks a lot
  
   Pat
 
 
 After some ggogling, I see there is a cirrus driver too, perhaps 
 try that one!
 
 :-)

I've tried this one and previous problem gone, but there's a new one :-| For
all modes receiving:
(II) CIRRUS(0): Not using default mode 1920x1440 (insufficient memory for 
mode)
(II) CIRRUS(0): Not using default mode 960x720 (bad mode
clock/interlace/doublescan)

I tried different frequencies, but without luck. It makes me nuts. Any ideas?
The X.org works fine for LiveCDs, but not for my Gentoo installation ... I
must did something wrong, because the xorg.config for LiveCD and my Gentoo is
the same (+/-).

Current xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log are included.

Thanks for the help.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 24 October 2007, Mick wrote:

 Thanks guys.  The AP has a reserved static LAN IP address on the
 router (10.10.10.13).  It also has a MAC.  So it is simply a matter of
 forwarding (all) ICMP echo-reply packets that arrive from the Internet
 to that LAN address. (On this implementation the AP is itself a
 Linksys wireless router).

 I wonder if I can play tricks with ping's ICMP headers to
 differentiate between them as they come into the router, or something
 clever that I haven't yet figured out.  Any ideas?

Disclaimer: I have not tested what follows.

Can't you just use traceroute?  
If you run tracert from windows, it should already work, since it uses 
ICMP echo requests. Otherwise, you should open UDP port 33434 on the 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Error Message about network interfaces

2007-10-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

 Yes, I did use ifplugd. And it works great. But I still have the error
 message when booting.

You don't need to use ifplugd,just install it. The network boot script
should use ifplugd without you starting or configuring it. Doing so may
cause a conflict.

However your message about the interface not existing may be caused by a
missing module. Is the module for your wired interface built into a
kernel or as a module? If a module, is it loaded at boot? You may need to
add it to /etc/modules.autoload.


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Re: [gentoo-user] qemu video driver

2007-10-24 Thread Wayn0

pat wrote:

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:12:09 +0200, Wayn0 wrote

8


I've tried this one and previous problem gone, but there's a new one :-| For
all modes receiving:
(II) CIRRUS(0): Not using default mode 1920x1440 (insufficient memory for 
mode)
(II) CIRRUS(0): Not using default mode 960x720 (bad mode
clock/interlace/doublescan)

I tried different frequencies, but without luck. It makes me nuts. Any ideas?
The X.org works fine for LiveCDs, but not for my Gentoo installation ... I
must did something wrong, because the xorg.config for LiveCD and my Gentoo is
the same (+/-).

Current xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log are included.

Thanks for the help.

 Pat




try removing the xorg.conf file and let X auto detect everything, it 
does a decent job of that now days!


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Stroller


On 23 Oct 2007, at 22:27, Daniel da Veiga wrote:

...
I really don't get how you forward something to an Access Point, isn't
this device like a dumb hub on your wireless network? Mine doesn't
have an IP, nor MAC or anything that could identify it on the network.


You're making assumptions that all APs are like your own.

Your AP would appear to be operating as a transparent network bridge,  
but others operate as NAT routers. And a device operating as a dumb  
bridge can still have MAC  IP addresses assigned to it, should the  
manufacturer wish. I'm actually a little surprised to hear that yours  
doesn't - how does one change the SSID  wireless encryption key, if  
the AP has no IP address to connect to?


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Re: [gentoo-user] qemu video driver

2007-10-24 Thread pat
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:42:13 +0200, Wayn0 wrote
 pat wrote:
  On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:12:09 +0200, Wayn0 wrote
 8
  
  I've tried this one and previous problem gone, but there's a new one :-| For
  all modes receiving:
  (II) CIRRUS(0): Not using default mode 1920x1440 (insufficient memory
for mode)
  (II) CIRRUS(0): Not using default mode 960x720 (bad mode
  clock/interlace/doublescan)
  
  I tried different frequencies, but without luck. It makes me nuts. Any 
  ideas?
  The X.org works fine for LiveCDs, but not for my Gentoo installation ... I
  must did something wrong, because the xorg.config for LiveCD and my Gentoo 
  is
  the same (+/-).
  
  Current xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log are included.
  
  Thanks for the help.
  
   Pat
 
 
 try removing the xorg.conf file and let X auto detect everything, it 
 does a decent job of that now days!
 
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So, it doesn't help :-( I've run 'X -configure' command and after run with
generated xorg.conf it ends with this error:
(EE) CIRRUS(0): no valid modes found
and after adding the video modes to the xorg.conf the X server ends with
errors sent in previous mail.

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[gentoo-user] mplayer with libmp3lame

2007-10-24 Thread Pawel K
Hello
The following command:

mencoder INFILE -of rawaudio -oac mp3lame -lameopts
mode=3 -channels 1 -ovc copy -o OUTFILE

generates the following error message:

MPlayer was compiled without libmp3lame support.
-lameopts is not an MEncoder option

I use mplayer-1.0_rc1_p20070824 with +mp3 USE flag.
It worked before mplayer upgrade.

I have:
/usr/bin/lame
/usr/lib/libmp3lame.a
/usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0.0.0
/usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0
/usr/lib/libmp3lame.so
/usr/lib/libmp3lame.la

How can I add the libmp3lame support to my mplayer ?

thank You for help.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 24 October 2007, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
 On Wednesday 24 October 2007, Mick wrote:
  Thanks guys.  The AP has a reserved static LAN IP address on the
  router (10.10.10.13).  It also has a MAC.  So it is simply a matter of
  forwarding (all) ICMP echo-reply packets that arrive from the Internet
  to that LAN address. (On this implementation the AP is itself a
  Linksys wireless router).
 
  I wonder if I can play tricks with ping's ICMP headers to
  differentiate between them as they come into the router, or something
  clever that I haven't yet figured out.  Any ideas?

 Disclaimer: I have not tested what follows.

 Can't you just use traceroute?
 If you run tracert from windows, it should already work, since it uses
 ICMP echo requests. Otherwise, you should open UDP port 33434 on the
 router.

I don't have access to a MS Windows machine right now, but using mtr I get:

 [snip . . .]

 23. XX-XX-XXX-XX.dhcp.kgpt.tn.cha  6.7%15  145.5 145.4 143.2 146.9   1.3
 24. ???  100.0150.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
 25. XX.XX.XXX.XXX 6.7%15  155.9 156.2 154.2 159.1   1.3


It seems that hop 23 is the dhcp server of the ISP. Hop 25. is the public IP 
address of the router.  I assume that hop 24. is the cable modem which acts 
as a bridge(?).

Since the AP is within the LAN and the connection to it is NAT'ed, it is not 
shown above.  Am I correct in my thinking?
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Re: [gentoo-user] qemu video driver

2007-10-24 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
I've never used that X-configure. I don't know whether it is a link to
xorgcfg, but try xorgcfg or xorgconfig instead. :-)

On 10/24/07, pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:42:13 +0200, Wayn0 wrote
  pat wrote:
   On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:12:09 +0200, Wayn0 wrote
  8
  
   I've tried this one and previous problem gone, but there's a new one
 :-| For
   all modes receiving:
   (II) CIRRUS(0): Not using default mode 1920x1440 (insufficient
 memory
 for mode)
   (II) CIRRUS(0): Not using default mode 960x720 (bad mode
   clock/interlace/doublescan)
  
   I tried different frequencies, but without luck. It makes me nuts. Any
 ideas?
   The X.org works fine for LiveCDs, but not for my Gentoo installation
 ... I
   must did something wrong, because the xorg.config for LiveCD and my
 Gentoo is
   the same (+/-).
  
   Current xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log are included.
  
   Thanks for the help.
  
Pat
  
 
  try removing the xorg.conf file and let X auto detect everything, it
  does a decent job of that now days!
 
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 So, it doesn't help :-( I've run 'X -configure' command and after run with
 generated xorg.conf it ends with this error:
 (EE) CIRRUS(0): no valid modes found
 and after adding the video modes to the xorg.conf the X server ends with
 errors sent in previous mail.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa kernel driver problem

2007-10-24 Thread Jerry McBride
On Wednesday 24 October 2007 03:34:52 am Adam Carter wrote:
 Alsaconf doesnt find any sound devices, however modules (in particular
 snd_via82xx) are loaded;

 localhost linux # lsmod | grep snd
 snd_pcm_oss29664  0
 snd_mixer_oss  12160  1 snd_pcm_oss
 snd_seq_dummy   1988  0
 snd_seq_oss21824  0
 snd_seq_midi_event  3584  1 snd_seq_oss
 snd_seq30864  5
 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
 snd_via82xx_modem   9736  0
 snd_via82xx18324  0
 snd_ac97_codec 71268  2 snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx
 snd_pcm44424  4
 snd_pcm_oss,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec
 snd_timer  14596  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
 snd_page_alloc  6280  3 snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via82xx,snd_pcm
 snd_mpu401_uart 4864  1 snd_via82xx
 snd_rawmidi14560  1 snd_mpu401_uart
 snd_seq_device  4364  4
 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
 snd29860  12
 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_via8
 2xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
 _device
 ac97_bus1152  1 snd_ac97_codec

 If i try to run /etc/init.d/alsasound

 localhost linux # /etc/init.d/alsasound start
  * Loading ALSA modules ...
  *   Could not detect custom ALSA settings.  Loading all detected alsa
 drivers.
  *   Loading: snd_via82xx ...
 [ ok ]
  *   Loading: snd_via82xx_modem ...
 [ ok ]
  *   Loading: snd-seq-oss ...
 [ ok ]
  *   Loading: snd-pcm-oss ...
 [ ok ]
  *   ERROR: Failed to load necessary drivers
 [ ok ]
  * Restoring Mixer Levels ...
  * No mixer config in /var/lib/alsa/asound.state, you have to unmute you
 [ ok ]

 alsa-driver is not recommended so i'm avoiding it. Is that my only
 option to try to fix this?

 tnx
 Adam

Sounds like the wrong driver is being loaded. What is the output of lspci? 
From a console, what does modprobe snd_via82xx show and what's being sent 
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
On 10/24/07, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I'm actually a little surprised to hear that yours
 doesn't - how does one change the SSID  wireless encryption key, if
 the AP has no IP address to connect to?

 Stroller.


Here at one of the University labs there is a REALLY old 802.11b 3COM AP
that is only configurable by a (lousy) software running on Windows. It's
really simple.
It's so hard dealing with it, 'cause it doesn't even have a power slot. It
uses PoE, so the only connector is the Ethernet one. :-/

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Re: [gentoo-user] qemu video driver

2007-10-24 Thread Wayn0

pat wrote:

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:42:13 +0200, Wayn0 wrote

pat wrote:

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:12:09 +0200, Wayn0 wrote

8

I've tried this one and previous problem gone, but there's a new one :-| For
all modes receiving:
(II) CIRRUS(0): Not using default mode 1920x1440 (insufficient memory

for mode)

(II) CIRRUS(0): Not using default mode 960x720 (bad mode
clock/interlace/doublescan)

I tried different frequencies, but without luck. It makes me nuts. Any ideas?
The X.org works fine for LiveCDs, but not for my Gentoo installation ... I
must did something wrong, because the xorg.config for LiveCD and my Gentoo is
the same (+/-).

Current xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log are included.

Thanks for the help.

 Pat

try removing the xorg.conf file and let X auto detect everything, it 
does a decent job of that now days!


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So, it doesn't help :-( I've run 'X -configure' command and after run with
generated xorg.conf it ends with this error:
(EE) CIRRUS(0): no valid modes found
and after adding the video modes to the xorg.conf the X server ends with
errors sent in previous mail.

 Pat




Final solution, copy the config from one of the livecds you used.

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Re: [gentoo-user] qemu video driver [SOLVED !!!]

2007-10-24 Thread pat
Thanks a lot for the help !!!

The solution is to add:
DefaultDepth 16
to screen section !!!

Thanks a lot to you and Wayn0.

 Pat

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:28:13 -0300, Ricardo Saffi Marques wrote 
 I've never used that X-configure. I don't know whether it is a link to
xorgcfg, but try xorgcfg or xorgconfig instead. :-) 
 
 On 10/24/07, pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:42:13
+0200, Wayn0 wrote 
  pat wrote: 
   On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:12:09 +0200, Wayn0 wrote 
  8 
   
   I've tried this one and previous problem gone, but there's a new one :-|
For 
   all modes receiving: 
   (II) CIRRUS(0): Not using default mode 1920x1440 (insufficient memory 
 for mode) 
   (II) CIRRUS(0): Not using default mode 960x720 (bad mode 
   clock/interlace/doublescan) 
   
   I tried different frequencies, but without luck. It makes me nuts. Any
ideas? 
   The X.org works fine for LiveCDs, but not for my Gentoo installation ... 
   I 
   must did something wrong, because the xorg.config for LiveCD and my
Gentoo is 
   the same (+/-). 
   
   Current xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log are included. 
   
   Thanks for the help. 
   
 Pat 
   
  
  try removing the xorg.conf file and let X auto detect everything, it 
  does a decent job of that now days! 
  
  -- 
  Wayne 
 
 So, it doesn't help :-( I've run 'X -configure' command and after run with 
 generated xorg.conf it ends with this error: 
 (EE) CIRRUS(0): no valid modes found 
 and after adding the video modes to the xorg.conf the X server ends with 
 errors sent in previous mail. 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] qemu video driver

2007-10-24 Thread pat
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:37:18 +0200, Wayn0 wrote
[snip]

 
 Final solution, copy the config from one of the livecds you used.
 

Yes, I've did it too, but it missed DefaultDepth parameter line too :-)

Thanks a lot for the patience and help.

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Re: [gentoo-user] qemu video driver

2007-10-24 Thread Wayn0

pat wrote:

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:37:18 +0200, Wayn0 wrote
[snip]


Final solution, copy the config from one of the livecds you used.



Yes, I've did it too, but it missed DefaultDepth parameter line too :-)

Thanks a lot for the patience and help.

 Pat


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Re: [gentoo-user] qemu video driver

2007-10-24 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
My pleasure. :-)

On 10/24/07, Wayn0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 pat wrote:
  On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:37:18 +0200, Wayn0 wrote
  [snip]
 
  Final solution, copy the config from one of the livecds you used.
 
 
  Yes, I've did it too, but it missed DefaultDepth parameter line too :-)
 
  Thanks a lot for the patience and help.
 
   Pat

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 24 October 2007, Mick wrote:

 I don't have access to a MS Windows machine right now, but using mtr I
 get: 
  [snip . . .]

  23. XX-XX-XXX-XX.dhcp.kgpt.tn.cha  6.7%15  145.5 145.4 143.2
 146.9   1.3 
 24. ???  100.0150.0   0.0  
  0.0   0.0   0.0 
  25. XX.XX.XXX.XXX 6.7%15  155.9 
 156.2 154.2 159.1   1.3
 

 It seems that hop 23 is the dhcp server of the ISP. Hop 25. is the
 public IP address of the router.  I assume that hop 24. is the cable
 modem which acts as a bridge(?).

 Since the AP is within the LAN and the connection to it is NAT'ed, it
 is not shown above.  Am I correct in my thinking?

From what I can see, and considering that I don't know how much 
traceroute-like mtr is and I don't know your setup, you should be 
correct. The idea is that traceroute should reach the AP if everything 
is working, it should stop at the router if the AP is not working, and 
at the hop before if the router is not working.
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 10/24/07, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 23 Oct 2007, at 22:27, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
  ...
  I really don't get how you forward something to an Access Point, isn't
  this device like a dumb hub on your wireless network? Mine doesn't
  have an IP, nor MAC or anything that could identify it on the network.

 You're making assumptions that all APs are like your own.

 Your AP would appear to be operating as a transparent network bridge,
 but others operate as NAT routers. And a device operating as a dumb
 bridge can still have MAC  IP addresses assigned to it, should the
 manufacturer wish. I'm actually a little surprised to hear that yours
 doesn't - how does one change the SSID  wireless encryption key, if
 the AP has no IP address to connect to?


Simple home APs act just like that, no address for configs or
anything, just a bridge to another network. These devices have no
config at all, they simply create an SSID with no encryption to a
wired network.

What he got is a WIRELESS ROUTER that acts like an Access Point,
providing a gateway and forwarding, linked to another router. I could
have guessed, but there was no info about that in his first post, so I
just guessed it was a simple Access Point.

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[gentoo-user] Impossible to compile PyQt

2007-10-24 Thread econti

Hi all,
the upgrade of my system has had another stop.

This time due to PyQt. I googled and found many problems regarding PyQt, 
but, because of my english, I did not understand what exactly to do.


Here is my error log:
--
 Unpacking source...
 Unpacking PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17.tar.gz to 
/var/tmp/portage/dev-python/PyQt-3.17/work

 Source unpacked.
 Compiling source in 
/var/tmp/portage/dev-python/PyQt-3.17/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17 ...

cfgtest.cpp: In function 'int main(int, char**)':
cfgtest.cpp:5: error: expected type-specifier before 'QInterlaceStyle'
cfgtest.cpp:5: error: expected `;' before 'QInterlaceStyle'
cfgtest.cpp:1:29: error: qwindowsxpstyle.h: No such file or directory
cfgtest.cpp: In function 'int main(int, char**)':
cfgtest.cpp:5: error: expected type-specifier before 'QWindowsXPStyle'
cfgtest.cpp:5: error: expected `;' before 'QWindowsXPStyle'
QScintilla 1.5.1 is being used.
Checking to see if the qtcanvas module should be built...
Checking to see if the qtnetwork module should be built...
Checking to see if the qttable module should be built...
Checking to see if the qtxml module should be built...
Checking to see if the qtgl module should be built...
Checking to see if the qtui module should be built...
Checking to see if the qtsql module should be built...
Checking to see if the qtext module should be built...
Checking to see if the QAssistantClient class is available...
Creating features file...
Checking to see if the QCDEStyle class is built in...
Checking to see if the QInterlaceStyle class is built in...
Checking to see if the QMotifStyle class is built in...
Checking to see if the QMotifPlusStyle class is built in...
Checking to see if the QPlatinumStyle class is built in...
Checking to see if the QSGIStyle class is built in...
Checking to see if the QWindowsXPStyle class is built in...
Checking to see if the QWindowsStyle class is built in...
Qt v3.3.8 free edition is being used.
SIP 4.7 is being used.
These PyQt modules will be built: qt qtcanvas qtnetwork qttable qtxml 
qtgl qtui

qtsql qtext.
Support for these Qt classes has been disabled: QInterlaceStyle
QWindowsXPStyle.
The PyQt modules will be installed in /usr/lib64/python2.4/site-packages.
The PyQt .sip files will be installed in /usr/share/sip.
The Qt header files are in /usr/qt/3/include.
The qt-mt Qt library is in /usr/qt/3/lib64.
pyuic will be installed in /usr/bin.
pylupdate will be installed in /usr/bin.
Generating the C++ source for the qt module...
Creating the Makefile for the qt module...
Generating the C++ source for the qtext module...
Creating the Makefile for the qtext module...
Generating the C++ source for the qtgl module...
Creating the Makefile for the qtgl module...
Generating the C++ source for the qtui module...
Creating the Makefile for the qtui module...
Generating the C++ source for the qtcanvas module...
Creating the Makefile for the qtcanvas module...
Generating the C++ source for the qtnetwork module...
Creating the Makefile for the qtnetwork module...
Generating the C++ source for the qtsql module...
Creating the Makefile for the qtsql module...
Generating the C++ source for the qttable module...
Creating the Makefile for the qttable module...
Generating the C++ source for the qtxml module...
Creating the Makefile for the qtxml module...
Creating top level Makefile...
Creating pyuic Makefile...
Creating pylupdate Makefile...
Creating pyqtconfig.py...
make[1]: Entering directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/dev-python/PyQt-3.17/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17/qt'
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -c -pipe -fPIC -march=k8 -O2 -pipe 
-fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -W -D_REENTRANT -DQT_NO_DEBUG 
-DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -I. -I/usr/include/python2.4 
-I/usr/qt/3/mkspecs/linux-g++ -I/usr/qt/3/include -I/usr/X11R6/include 
-o sipqtcmodule.o sipqtcmodule.cpp
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -c -pipe -fPIC -march=k8 -O2 -pipe 
-fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -W -D_REENTRANT -DQT_NO_DEBUG 
-DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -I. -I/usr/include/python2.4 
-I/usr/qt/3/mkspecs/linux-g++ -I/usr/qt/3/include -I/usr/X11R6/include 
-o sipqtQPtrList.o sipqtQPtrList.cpp

sip/qt/qdir.sip:47:28: error: sipqtQFileInfo.h: No such file or directory
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -c -pipe -fPIC -march=k8 -O2 -pipe 
-fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -W -D_REENTRANT -DQT_NO_DEBUG 
-DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -I. -I/usr/include/python2.4 
-I/usr/qt/3/mkspecs/linux-g++ -I/usr/qt/3/include -I/usr/X11R6/include 
-o sipqtQWorkspace.o sipqtQWorkspace.cpp
sip/qt/qwidgetlist.sip:38:26: error: sipqtQWidget.h: No such file or 
directory
sip/qt/qobjectlist.sip:38:26: error: sipqtQObject.h: No such file or 
directory
sipqtcmodule.cpp:13422: error: 'sipQtFindConnection' was not declared in 
this scope

make[1]: *** [sipqtcmodule.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[1]: *** [sipqtQWorkspace.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/dev-python/PyQt-3.17/work/PyQt-x11-gpl-3.17/qt'

make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: dev-python/PyQt-3.17 failed.

Re: [gentoo-user] Impossible to compile PyQt

2007-10-24 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 05:24:19PM +0200, Penguin Lover econti squawked:
 Hi all,
 the upgrade of my system has had another stop.
 
 This time due to PyQt. I googled and found many problems regarding PyQt, 
 but, because of my english, I did not understand what exactly to do.
 

I'm not quite sure, but might be related to bug190582

try either emerge PyQT-3.17.3

or 

downgrade dev-python/sip to 4.5.2-r1

Best of luck, 

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Stroller


On 24 Oct 2007, at 15:41, Daniel da Veiga wrote:

...
Simple home APs act just like that, no address for configs or
anything, just a bridge to another network. These devices have no
config at all, they simply create an SSID with no encryption to a
wired network.

What he got is a WIRELESS ROUTER that acts like an Access Point,
providing a gateway and forwarding, linked to another router...


Where do you find this particular definition of an access point?
I would have believed the expression wireless access point to  
include either class of device within its definition.


I should add that there are some APish devices which bridge - i.e.  
they do not route or NAT - yet still have a MAC address  IP for  
administrative purposes.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Error Message about network interfaces

2007-10-24 Thread twang . umn
On 09:35 Wed 24 Oct , Neil Bothwick wrote:
 Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 
  Yes, I did use ifplugd. And it works great. But I still have the error
  message when booting.
 
 You don't need to use ifplugd,just install it. The network boot script
 should use ifplugd without you starting or configuring it. Doing so may
 cause a conflict.
 
 However your message about the interface not existing may be caused by a
 missing module. Is the module for your wired interface built into a
 kernel or as a module? If a module, is it loaded at boot? You may need to
 add it to /etc/modules.autoload.
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Dan Farrell
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:28:16 +0100
Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On 24 Oct 2007, at 15:41, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
  ...
  Simple home APs act just like that, no address for configs or
  anything, just a bridge to another network. These devices have no
  config at all, they simply create an SSID with no encryption to a
  wired network.

I had a belkin AP that I think was like this.  The windows-only control
program (wasn't running wine at the time) was a big reason I will
probaby never buy one again.  Once you build a real router, you never
go back...

  What he got is a WIRELESS ROUTER that acts like an Access Point,
  providing a gateway and forwarding, linked to another router...
 
 Where do you find this particular definition of an access point?
 I would have believed the expression wireless access point to  
 include either class of device within its definition.

I agree.  I think 'AP' has come to mean, perhaps a trifle informally,
simply a device to allow wireless access to a wired network.  

 I should add that there are some APish devices which bridge - i.e.  
 they do not route or NAT - yet still have a MAC address  IP for  
 administrative purposes.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address

2007-10-24 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 10/24/07, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:28:16 +0100
 Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  On 24 Oct 2007, at 15:41, Daniel da Veiga wrote:
   ...
   Simple home APs act just like that, no address for configs or
   anything, just a bridge to another network. These devices have no
   config at all, they simply create an SSID with no encryption to a
   wired network.

 I had a belkin AP that I think was like this.  The windows-only control
 program (wasn't running wine at the time) was a big reason I will
 probaby never buy one again.  Once you build a real router, you never
 go back...

   What he got is a WIRELESS ROUTER that acts like an Access Point,
   providing a gateway and forwarding, linked to another router...
 
  Where do you find this particular definition of an access point?
  I would have believed the expression wireless access point to
  include either class of device within its definition.

 I agree.  I think 'AP' has come to mean, perhaps a trifle informally,
 simply a device to allow wireless access to a wired network.


Exactly, at least where I live, if I go shopping for wireless devices,
APs are mostly this, and wireless routers are APs with routing and
forwarding. Its not like I was trying to define it, its simply how its
referred in some online stores, and thus I assumed that was the case
for the OP. Obviously I was wrong. No point in arguing that.

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[gentoo-user] Emerge firefox 2.0.0.8 and now printing is hosed

2007-10-24 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I've just emerged firefox 2.0.0.8 (I think it was 2.0.0.7 before), and now
attempts to print a web page bring me to a skimpy little dialog with just
two buttons: Cancel and OK.  The OK button leads to an error dialog.  So
printing is now impossible.  Fortunately, I have seamonkey, which is working
just fine.

But I'd like firefox to work too.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge firefox 2.0.0.8 and now printing is hosed

2007-10-24 Thread Dan Cowsill
On 10/24/07, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've just emerged firefox 2.0.0.8 (I think it was 2.0.0.7 before), and now
 attempts to print a web page bring me to a skimpy little dialog with just
 two buttons: Cancel and OK.  The OK button leads to an error dialog.  So
 printing is now impossible.  Fortunately, I have seamonkey, which is working
 just fine.

 But I'd like firefox to work too.

 ++ kevin

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Might want to bring this up with the firefox people, not the Gentoo people.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge firefox 2.0.0.8 and now printing is hosed

2007-10-24 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
It's a gentoo ebuild, so I start here.  For all I know, it was something
that happened here.

My OS is cranking along.  It just spent 2 or 3 weeks recompiling itself with
GCC 4.1.2, upgrading from 3.something.
Only Qemu failed to come over.  Then I promptly had to upgrade to a broken
firefox, but that's not a show-stopper for me.

++ kevin

On 10/24/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 10/24/07, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've just emerged firefox 2.0.0.8 (I think it was 2.0.0.7 before), and
 now
  attempts to print a web page bring me to a skimpy little dialog with
 just
  two buttons: Cancel and OK.  The OK button leads to an error dialog.  So
  printing is now impossible.  Fortunately, I have seamonkey, which is
 working
  just fine.
 
  But I'd like firefox to work too.
 
  ++ kevin
 
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 Might want to bring this up with the firefox people, not the Gentoo
 people.

 But hey!  How's your os workin these days?

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