[gentoo-user] When will the ~ go from Firefox 3.0.12?
Hi, normally gentoo was quick with security updates for Firefox but it is almost a month now since 3.0.12 and still the ~ is attached. What's going on there? Konstantin -- Dipl-Inf. Konstantin Agouros aka Elwood Blues. Internet: elw...@agouros.de Otkerstr. 28, 81547 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185 Captain, this ship will not survive the forming of the cosmos. B'Elana Torres
[gentoo-user] ISDN4k Utils masekd
Hi, is there an alternative? I need ISDN in at least one machine. Regards, Konstantin -- Dipl-Inf. Konstantin Agouros aka Elwood Blues. Internet: elw...@agouros.de Otkerstr. 28, 81547 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185 Captain, this ship will not survive the forming of the cosmos. B'Elana Torres
Re: [gentoo-user] When will the ~ go from Firefox 3.0.12?
Konstantinos Agouros wrote: Hi, normally gentoo was quick with security updates for Firefox but it is almost a month now since 3.0.12 and still the ~ is attached. What's going on there? 3.0.13 is the latest (with security updates). Or 3.5.2... Best regards Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] netkit-rsh ./configure problem
Andrey Falko wrote: Have you done an update to this system where glibc might have been upgraded but not gcc or vice versa? Have you updated any system packages in general on the system? As was mentioned earlier an emerge -e system might solve the problem. If not, then we'll know that it's not a problem with one of the system packages. Questions (I don't know the answers): Doesn't glibc need a rebuild after kernel reconfiguration (such as CONFIG_BSD_...)? I mean glibc doesn't support (kernel) options that the kernel doesn't support, right? Is glibc built against sanitized kernel headers or the real kernel headers (/usr/src/linux/include)? Best regards Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] netkit-rsh ./configure problem
On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 13:35 +0200, pk wrote: Questions (I don't know the answers): Doesn't glibc need a rebuild after kernel reconfiguration (such as CONFIG_BSD_...)? I mean glibc doesn't support (kernel) options that the kernel doesn't support, right? Is glibc built against sanitized kernel headers or the real kernel headers (/usr/src/linux/include)? I really don't think it was the CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT option (I spoke too soon). I'm pretty sure that's for tools like sar and also the system where I'm not having this issue doesn't have that option either. I'm not sure what it was. I decided to rebuild the system. This time I used the 2008.0 stage 3 instead of the snapshot. Also I'm using amd64/baselayout-1 until I get everything configured the way I want it and then switch to ~amd64. So far things are working fine. I'm not sure what exactly the issue was before but I'm going to take things a little slower this time and keep my fingers crossed :) Thanks to everyone for their input. -a
Re: [gentoo-user] netkit-rsh ./configure problem
On Sunday 16 August 2009 13:35:44 pk wrote: Is glibc built against sanitized kernel headers or the real kernel headers (/usr/src/linux/include)? The former. One can not rely on the state of the latter. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gcc 4.3.4 --- 4.4.1
On Saturday 15 August 2009 19:37:05 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Samstag 15 August 2009 19:24:09 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: system has to be rebuilt twice. When you get a new toolchain (system), you need to rebuilt it with itself. The first time you do that, it is rebuilt using the *old* toolchain. The second time it is rebuilt using the *new* toolchain that was just rebuilt. Why would I need to do that? If I install gcc 4.4.1 I have gcc 4.4.1. It will produce the same code no matter with what toolchain it has been built. So just rebuilding world should be sufficient. I didn't say rebuild gcc. I said rebuild the toolchain. It's not about what you use to build gcc, it's about what gcc uses to build runnable code. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] When will the ~ go from Firefox 3.0.12?
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 3:38 AM, pkpete...@coolmail.se wrote: Konstantinos Agouros wrote: Hi, normally gentoo was quick with security updates for Firefox but it is almost a month now since 3.0.12 and still the ~ is attached. What's going on there? 3.0.13 is the latest (with security updates). Or 3.5.2... Maybe, but 3.0.11 is the latest stable on x86. The OP's question is a good one, still awaiting an answer. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
[gentoo-user] problems with the web browsers
Hello list,
Sadly, I'm pretty much disappointed with both web browser installed on
my system: konqueror and firefox.
Konqueror: very stable indeed, but it couldn't be at another way since
it's a key piece of the KDE environment... The problem comes when I want
to fill in forms (you know... web pages for registering, etc.). It stops
many times without giving us an alert message or some kind of
explanation, so you have to deduce that the problem is not from the
website, but the browser instead.
I don't know whether problems come from java or whatever..., I've
checked my konqueror preferences and I'd bet they are all OK..
firefox: Here the problem is very very annoying, I've run firefox before
with many other Linux flavours and never..., never got to this status of
inability; once you've got about six tabs opened on the same frame
window, firefox gets close to hang, and you become unable to manage it
anymore, unless you have an infinite patience. Doing top from a CLI
shows a %CPU _over_ 100%, amazing!. At the end, you'll have to kill the
process from console.
I don't know, either, why firefox gets to this status; preferences are
as usual, etc. Maybe the problem roots from the flags when compiling,
but I haven't received any message from the system, IIRC... Is there any
flag wrong on my system?
This is my /etc/conf.d:
~ # more /etc/make.conf
# These settings were set by the catalyst build script that
automatically
# built this stage.
# Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example.
CFLAGS=-march=nocona -O2 -pipe
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
# WARNING: Changing your CHOST is not something that should be done
lightly.
# Please consult http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml before
changing.
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
##
# These are the USE flags that were used in addition to what is provided
by the
# profile used for building.
USE=symlink mmx sse sse2 sse3 alsa cdr dvdr qt3 qt4 kde -gnome acpi
wifi usb unicode objc bash-completion
##
MAKEOPTS=-j3
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/gentoo/
http://gentoo.lagis.a
t/ ftp://ftp.tu-clausthal.de/pub/linux/gentoo/
ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aac
hen.de/pub/Linux/gentoo
http://linux.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/download/gentoo-mirro
r/ ftp://linux.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/gentoo-mirror/
http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/p
ub/mirrors/gentoo ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/gentoo
ftp://ftp.join.un
i-muenster.de/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo
ftp://ftp.wh2.tu-dresden.de/pub/mir
rors/gentoo
ftp://ftp.join.uni-muenster.de/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo http:/
/mirrors.sec.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/gentoo/
http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de
/pub/Mirrors/gentoo/ ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/gentoo/
http://
gentoo.mneisen.org/ http://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/gentoo/
ftp://ftp
.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/gentoo/ http://ftp.udc.es/gentoo/
ftp://ftp.udc
.es/gentoo/ http://gentoo.virginmedia.com/
ftp://gentoo.virginmedia.com/sites/ge
ntoo
SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
##
INPUT_DEVICES=evdev
VIDEO_CARDS=nvidia vesa
###
FEATURES=ccache parallel-fetch userfetch
CCACHESIZE=2G
###
LINGUAS=en es
##
Please, I'd like to have your comments and to solve the problem once and
forever.
Thanks in advance,
Daniel R. Magarzo
Re: [gentoo-user] problems with the web browsers
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 18:40, M Daniel R M4.maga...@gmail.com wrote: firefox: Here the problem is very very annoying, I've run firefox before with many other Linux flavours and never..., never got to this status of inability; once you've got about six tabs opened on the same frame window, firefox gets close to hang, and you become unable to manage it anymore, unless you have an infinite patience. Doing top from a CLI shows a %CPU _over_ 100%, amazing!. At the end, you'll have to kill the process from console. Have you tried running firefox with all your extensions and plugins disabled? Which version of firefox are you running and what use flags do you use? Ward
Re: [gentoo-user] problems with the web browsers
I am not into konqueror these days, so no idea about that. As for firefox, most problems comes from corrupted profiles, silly extensions, etc. So, first I would try using a clean profile, the easiest way to do that is to create a new user to test with. If the problem goes away then you know that there's something wrong in your profile, try disabling every extension and plugin before doing anything else. -- Jesús Guerrero
[gentoo-user] Re: problems with the web browsers
On 08/16/2009 07:40 PM, M Daniel R M wrote:
firefox: Here the problem is very very annoying, I've run firefox before
with many other Linux flavours and never..., never got to this status of
inability; once you've got about six tabs opened on the same frame
window, firefox gets close to hang, and you become unable to manage it
anymore, unless you have an infinite patience. Doing top from a CLI
shows a %CPU _over_ 100%, amazing!. At the end, you'll have to kill the
process from console.
I don't know, either, why firefox gets to this status; preferences are
as usual, etc. Maybe the problem roots from the flags when compiling,
but I haven't received any message from the system, IIRC... Is there any
flag wrong on my system?
I remember Firefox was biting me with this too at some time. The
solution for me was to go to Edit-Preferences, and in the Security
tab uncheck the Block reported attack sites and Block reported web
forgeries checkboxes. The issue was that those features use sqlite to
update internal databases of thousands of malware sites, and updates
to these lists were bringing my CPU to its knees.
So try that and see if it helps.
CFLAGS=-march=nocona -O2 -pipe
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
Btw, if you're on a Core2 and a recent GCC, you might want to change
that to -march=core2 or -march=native.
[gentoo-user] trouble with preserved-rebuild
Hi. I am having problems with emerge @preserved-rebuild which used to work fine, but on the latest time I tried it, I got the following message: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-libs/apr-util:0. Is it broke, because this is still true after re-emerging apr-util? I am using unstable x86. Thanks. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
[gentoo-user] Re: When will the ~ go from Firefox 3.0.12?
On 08/15/2009 11:46 PM, Konstantinos Agouros wrote: Hi, normally gentoo was quick with security updates for Firefox but it is almost a month now since 3.0.12 and still the ~ is attached. What's going on there? I notice that the ebuild for 3.0.13 was added only yesterday, so my guess is the maintainer is skipping 3.0.12 because it's already obsolete. Just a guess, however.
Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with preserved-rebuild
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:27 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am having problems with emerge @preserved-rebuild which used to work fine, but on the latest time I tried it, I got the following message: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-libs/apr-util:0. Is it broke, because this is still true after re-emerging apr-util? I am using unstable x86. Thanks. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com Is /var/lib/portage/world specifying a specific version that the developers have removed from portage? If so you might removed that from the world file and then either emerge the current version or emerge -DuN @world. Just an idea. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with preserved-rebuild
On Sunday 16 August 2009 19:27:12 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am having problems with emerge @preserved-rebuild which used to work fine, but on the latest time I tried it, I got the following message: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-libs/apr-util:0. ^^ There is no SLOT 0 for apr-util Use equery depends apr-util to find out what used it and rebuild those. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] problems with the web browsers
On Sunday 16 August 2009 18:40:12 M Daniel R M wrote: Konqueror: very stable indeed, but it couldn't be at another way since it's a key piece of the KDE environment... The problem comes when I want to fill in forms (you know... web pages for registering, etc.). It stops many times without giving us an alert message or some kind of explanation, so you have to deduce that the problem is not from the website, but the browser instead. I don't know whether problems come from java or whatever..., I've checked my konqueror preferences and I'd bet they are all OK.. javascript support in konqueror sucks. For everything else it's actually OK. One of these days it will use webkit as the backend and then things might improve. Until then, I'm afraid you are SOL. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When will the ~ go from Firefox 3.0.12?
On 08/15/2009 11:46 PM, Konstantinos Agouros wrote: normally gentoo was quick with security updates for Firefox but it is almost a month now since 3.0.12 and still the ~ is attached. I updated to 3.5.2-r1 yesterday it works very well. also, 3.5 is much faster than 3.0 on my older stand-by machine. My policy is to avoid 'testing' for system or other vital packages, but use it for well-maintained items like Firefox. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
[gentoo-user] Free memory issue
Hi all, I wonder what is going on with my system. I have a 2G of physical RAM but even without any major activity output of free,vmstat and top reports only ~64M free. Would any one know how to find more - ps doesn't show nothing wrong... free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 1953 1888 65 0143 1557 -/+ buffers/cache:187 1765 Swap: 2055 0 2055 procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu r b swpd free buff cache si sobibo in cs us sy id wa 0 0 0 66720 147196 159440000 310 27 75 0 0 100 0 top - 20:34:42 up 1 day, 9:40, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Tasks: 99 total, 1 running, 98 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni,100.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 2000552k total, 1934028k used,66524k free, 147200k buffers Swap: 2104504k total,0k used, 2104504k free, 1594492k cached thanks a lot, Raul
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problems with the web browsers
090816 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 08/16/2009 07:40 PM, M Daniel R M wrote:
I've run firefox before with many other Linux flavours
and never got to this status of inability;
once you've got about six tabs opened on the same frame window,
firefox gets close to hang, and you become unable to manage it anymore,
Doing top from a CLI shows a %CPU _over_ 100%, amazing!
At the end, you'll have to kill the process from console.
I remember Firefox was biting me with this too at some time.
The solution was to Edit-Preferences and in the Security tab
uncheck Block reported attack sites and Block reported web forgeries.
those features use sqlite to update internal databases
of thousands of malware sites which was bringing my CPU to its knees.
I have both those boxes checked rarely have a problem:
try toggling preferences which look CPU-intensive see what happens.
Occasionally, I do have a problem with a particular WWW page,
when I have to kill Firefox via 'htop', but it's rare (probably JS).
The 3.0 version was running very slowly on my 2003 machine (AMD Athlon),
but 3.5.2 is as fast there as here on my 2007 machine (Core 2 Duo).
CFLAGS=-march=nocona -O2 -pipe
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
if you're on a Core2 and a recent GCC,
you might want to change that to -march=core2 or -march=native.
I use Gcc 4.3.2-r3 have CFLAGS=-O2 -march=native -mtune=native -pipe.
--
,,
SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb
ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
[gentoo-user] Re: Free memory issue
On 08/16/2009 09:41 PM, Raul Gonzales wrote: Hi all, I wonder what is going on with my system. I have a 2G of physical RAM but even without any major activity output of free,vmstat and top reports only ~64M free. Would any one know how to find more - ps doesn't show nothing wrong... free -m total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 1953 1888 65 0 143 1557 -/+ buffers/cache: 187 1765 Swap: 2055 0 2055 Er, I see 1765MB free here (187 used). It's the -/+ buffers/cache line that reports free memory, NOT the first line.
Re: [gentoo-user] Free memory issue
090816 Raul Gonzales wrote: I have a 2G of physical RAM but even without any major activity output of free,vmstat and top reports only ~64M free. free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 1953 1888 65 0143 1557 -/+ buffers/cache:187 1765 Swap: 2055 0 2055 The crucial figure is '187', which is what is usable. You have a lot of something cached: any idea what it might be ? -- the kernel should delete that stuff, if it needs the space. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
[gentoo-user] upgrading ~x68 kde-4.2 to kde-4.3 question
Howdy, kde-4.3 is now unmasked for ~x86. Whop! But it is looking like a non-trivial upgrade. :( When I installed kde-4.2, I followed the advice of unmasking portage and using sets. Also followed the recommendation to use -kdeprefix. Further I removed kde-3.5 and added a mask on kdelibs-3.5 to help keep 3.5 off of the system. So for the kde-4.3 upgrade, it looks like this is what will be necessary: 1) grab the sets again from the kde-testing overlay and put them in / etc/portage/sets (assumption is to do a replace). 2) unmerge kde-4.2 using: emerge --unmerge @kde-4.2 3) merge kde-4.3 using: emerge -av @kde-4.3 4) recustomize kde as the ~/.kde will not be migrated Am I on the right track? TIA, Roy
Re: [gentoo-user] netkit-rsh ./configure problem
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 13:35:44 pk wrote: Is glibc built against sanitized kernel headers or the real kernel headers (/usr/src/linux/include)? The former. One can not rely on the state of the latter. Thanks for the clarification! Best regards Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading ~x68 kde-4.2 to kde-4.3 question
Am Sonntag 16 August 2009 21:02:50 schrieb Roy Wright: So for the kde-4.3 upgrade, it looks like this is what will be necessary: 1) grab the sets again from the kde-testing overlay and put them in / etc/portage/sets (assumption is to do a replace). 2) unmerge kde-4.2 using: emerge --unmerge @kde-4.2 3) merge kde-4.3 using: emerge -av @kde-4.3 4) recustomize kde as the ~/.kde will not be migrated Am I on the right track? No. 1) They're in portage. 2) No need to unmerge anything (except one or two blockers). 4) Worked just fine here. HTH... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Free memory issue
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: 090816 Raul Gonzales wrote: I have a 2G of physical RAM but even without any major activity output of free,vmstat and top reports only ~64M free. free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 1953 1888 65 0143 1557 -/+ buffers/cache:187 1765 Swap: 2055 0 2055 The crucial figure is '187', which is what is usable. You have a lot of something cached: any idea what it might be ? -- the kernel should delete that stuff, if it needs the space. All Disk I/O is cached into memory. A good example is if you are playing a video game. Every time you load a new map, that map is cached in memory, so if you load that map again, the kernel won't get it from disk, but from the memory's cache. If your OS needs more ram, the cache is over-written with actual memory. Here is a simple explaination of what I'm talking about: http://linux.about.com/od/lsa_guide/a/gdelsa44.htm
Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with preserved-rebuild
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 19:27:12 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am having problems with emerge @preserved-rebuild which used to work fine, but on the latest time I tried it, I got the following message: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-libs/apr-util:0. ^^ There is no SLOT 0 for apr-util Use equery depends apr-util to find out what used it and rebuild those. I did that and got the same results. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading ~x68 kde-4.2 to kde-4.3 question
Am Sonntag 16 August 2009 21:12:30 schrieb Dirk Heinrichs: 2) No need to unmerge anything (except one or two blockers). However, you can unmerge 4.2.x, if you like to. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Free memory issue
On Sunday 16 August 2009 20:56:59 Philip Webb wrote: 090816 Raul Gonzales wrote: I have a 2G of physical RAM but even without any major activity output of free,vmstat and top reports only ~64M free. free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 1953 1888 65 0143 1557 -/+ buffers/cache:187 1765 Swap: 2055 0 2055 The crucial figure is '187', which is what is usable. You have a lot of something cached: any idea what it might be ? -- the kernel should delete that stuff, if it needs the space. top, free and every other tool that examines /proc lies through it's teeth. Well, not really, but it's necessary to know what exactly it is measuring and also how the kernel is written. But first: Raul, there is nothing wrong with your box. It is working as designed. The used column literally means memory that in use for something, somewhere. The free column literally means memory that is not in use anywhere. It's normally around 2 or 3 % of total physical RAM. In Raul's case, the kernel has decided to allocate 1557M of RAM to cache. A particular block might have cached data in it, or it might not. It might have been used then marked as up for not in use anymore, or it might never have been written to since last reboot. It doesn't matter. All that does matter is that the kernel has decided that those blocks of memory *may* be used for caching. The trick is that if more memory is needed by apps than what is listed as immediately available and free, the kernel will search out chunks that it can de-allocate, then it will do so. Why does the kernel do this? It's a programming technique called lazy- deallocation (similar to lazy-initialization) and it's used because it is efficient. It means the kernel only has to do work when it needs to do work. De-allocating memory as soon as it is not in use is expensive and usually a waste of time - it's very likely that that very chunk of memory will almost immediately be used once again. If so, why bother de-allocating it at all? Bottom line: You, the user, do not really know what the kernel is doing with memory. It's also changing about 100 million times a second and your eyes don't work that fast. The kernel is designed to do these things in an autonomous fashion because it knows what to do, and you the user do not. The most you can do about this is provide hints as to how the kernel should operate and then let it get on with it. top, free, et all, simply show snapshots of memory state at a point in time. You should ignore the absolute values they display and concentrate more on how the numbers are changing over time. A value that gradually increases while no real processes are running would indicate a problem for example. This is all very correct and follows good engineering principles. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with preserved-rebuild
On Sunday 16 August 2009 21:18:01 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 19:27:12 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am having problems with emerge @preserved-rebuild which used to work fine, but on the latest time I tried it, I got the following message: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-libs/apr-util:0. ^^ There is no SLOT 0 for apr-util Use equery depends apr-util to find out what used it and rebuild those. I did that and got the same results. what exactly did you do and what output did you get from equery? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading ~x68 kde-4.2 to kde-4.3 question
On Sunday 16 August 2009 21:12:30 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag 16 August 2009 21:02:50 schrieb Roy Wright: So for the kde-4.3 upgrade, it looks like this is what will be necessary: 1) grab the sets again from the kde-testing overlay and put them in / etc/portage/sets (assumption is to do a replace). 2) unmerge kde-4.2 using: emerge --unmerge @kde-4.2 3) merge kde-4.3 using: emerge -av @kde-4.3 4) recustomize kde as the ~/.kde will not be migrated Am I on the right track? No. 1) They're in portage. He's asking about the set files, not the ebuilds. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with preserved-rebuild
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 21:18:01 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 19:27:12 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am having problems with emerge @preserved-rebuild which used to work fine, but on the latest time I tried it, I got the following message: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-libs/apr-util:0. ^^ There is no SLOT 0 for apr-util Use equery depends apr-util to find out what used it and rebuild those. I did that and got the same results. what exactly did you do and what output did you get from equery? I emerged the packages mentioned in the equery -- I don't have the output, although I can do it now. * Searching for apr-util ... app-admin/apache-tools-2.2.12 (=dev-libs/apr-util-1*) dev-util/subversion-1.6.4-r10 (=dev-libs/apr-util-1.3:1) www-servers/apache-2.2.12 (=dev-libs/apr-util-1*) I emerged the packages mentioned -- without using the version numbers and when I did the emerge @preserved-rebuild again I got the same results as before. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading ~x68 kde-4.2 to kde-4.3 question
On Sonntag 16 August 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 21:12:30 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag 16 August 2009 21:02:50 schrieb Roy Wright: So for the kde-4.3 upgrade, it looks like this is what will be necessary: 1) grab the sets again from the kde-testing overlay and put them in / etc/portage/sets (assumption is to do a replace). 2) unmerge kde-4.2 using: emerge --unmerge @kde-4.2 3) merge kde-4.3 using: emerge -av @kde-4.3 4) recustomize kde as the ~/.kde will not be migrated Am I on the right track? No. 1) They're in portage. He's asking about the set files, not the ebuilds. and you don't copy the set files.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events
=== On Sat, 08/15, Dale wrote: === Have you tried emerging xorg-server with hal disabled? That is assuming you are using the 1.5 or 1.6 version. === FYI, I am using the latest X server with hal enabled and the evdev input driver and it all works fine. -- Keith Dart -- -- ~ Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz public key: ID: 19017044 http://www.pycopia.net/ =
Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading ~x68 kde-4.2 to kde-4.3 question
On Sunday 16 August 2009 21:46:02 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 16 August 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 21:12:30 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag 16 August 2009 21:02:50 schrieb Roy Wright: So for the kde-4.3 upgrade, it looks like this is what will be necessary: 1) grab the sets again from the kde-testing overlay and put them in / etc/portage/sets (assumption is to do a replace). 2) unmerge kde-4.2 using: emerge --unmerge @kde-4.2 3) merge kde-4.3 using: emerge -av @kde-4.3 4) recustomize kde as the ~/.kde will not be migrated Am I on the right track? No. 1) They're in portage. He's asking about the set files, not the ebuilds. and you don't copy the set files. Which set files does one not copy, and why? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with preserved-rebuild
On Sunday 16 August 2009 21:37:27 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 21:18:01 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 19:27:12 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am having problems with emerge @preserved-rebuild which used to work fine, but on the latest time I tried it, I got the following message: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-libs/apr-util:0. ^^ There is no SLOT 0 for apr-util Use equery depends apr-util to find out what used it and rebuild those. I did that and got the same results. what exactly did you do and what output did you get from equery? I emerged the packages mentioned in the equery -- I don't have the output, although I can do it now. * Searching for apr-util ... app-admin/apache-tools-2.2.12 (=dev-libs/apr-util-1*) dev-util/subversion-1.6.4-r10 (=dev-libs/apr-util-1.3:1) www-servers/apache-2.2.12 (=dev-libs/apr-util-1*) I emerged the packages mentioned -- without using the version numbers and when I did the emerge @preserved-rebuild again I got the same results as before. portage somehow thinks you have apr-utils:0 installed, or need to have it installed. Check the following: Is it in the world file? Check versions and SLOTS for apr-utils in /var/db/pkg/ Check the output of eix -e apr-util to see what exactly you have - keep in mind that a package without a SLOT is 0 by default. I suspect the devs bumped apr-util to SLOT=1 -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading ~x68 kde-4.2 to kde-4.3 question
On Sonntag 16 August 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 21:46:02 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 16 August 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 21:12:30 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag 16 August 2009 21:02:50 schrieb Roy Wright: So for the kde-4.3 upgrade, it looks like this is what will be necessary: 1) grab the sets again from the kde-testing overlay and put them in / etc/portage/sets (assumption is to do a replace). 2) unmerge kde-4.2 using: emerge --unmerge @kde-4.2 3) merge kde-4.3 using: emerge -av @kde-4.3 4) recustomize kde as the ~/.kde will not be migrated Am I on the right track? No. 1) They're in portage. He's asking about the set files, not the ebuilds. and you don't copy the set files. Which set files does one not copy, and why? you don't copy any set files because there is no reason to do so?
Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with preserved-rebuild
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 21:37:27 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 21:18:01 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 19:27:12 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am having problems with emerge @preserved-rebuild which used to work fine, but on the latest time I tried it, I got the following message: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-libs/apr-util:0. ^^ There is no SLOT 0 for apr-util Use equery depends apr-util to find out what used it and rebuild those. I did that and got the same results. what exactly did you do and what output did you get from equery? I emerged the packages mentioned in the equery -- I don't have the output, although I can do it now. * Searching for apr-util ... app-admin/apache-tools-2.2.12 (=dev-libs/apr-util-1*) dev-util/subversion-1.6.4-r10 (=dev-libs/apr-util-1.3:1) www-servers/apache-2.2.12 (=dev-libs/apr-util-1*) I emerged the packages mentioned -- without using the version numbers and when I did the emerge @preserved-rebuild again I got the same results as before. portage somehow thinks you have apr-utils:0 installed, or need to have it installed. Check the following: Is it in the world file? Check versions and SLOTS for apr-utils in /var/db/pkg/ Check the output of eix -e apr-util to see what exactly you have - keep in mind that a package without a SLOT is 0 by default. I suspect the devs bumped apr-util to SLOT=1 Well, I did have two versions in there -- there was a 0.9.12 and when I got rid of that things went back to normal -- its emerging 32 packages now. I deleted it from the world file as well. Thanks so much for your help. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading ~x68 kde-4.2 to kde-4.3 question
On Sunday 16 August 2009 23:09:41 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 16 August 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 21:46:02 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 16 August 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 21:12:30 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag 16 August 2009 21:02:50 schrieb Roy Wright: So for the kde-4.3 upgrade, it looks like this is what will be necessary: 1) grab the sets again from the kde-testing overlay and put them in / etc/portage/sets (assumption is to do a replace). 2) unmerge kde-4.2 using: emerge --unmerge @kde-4.2 3) merge kde-4.3 using: emerge -av @kde-4.3 4) recustomize kde as the ~/.kde will not be migrated Am I on the right track? No. 1) They're in portage. He's asking about the set files, not the ebuilds. and you don't copy the set files. Which set files does one not copy, and why? you don't copy any set files because there is no reason to do so? And if the changes between kde-4.2 and kde-4.3 DO require changes to the set files to build everything, then what should one do? Not copy the files and live with the omission/breakage? Set files do not ship with a --sync, the user must either get them from somewhere or create them himself. And additions to 4.3 are not present in 4.2, so I don't understand your position. Seems to me that copying working set files from somewhere is a requirement in this case, especially if the user uses versioned set files. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events
Keith Dart wrote: === On Sat, 08/15, Dale wrote: === Have you tried emerging xorg-server with hal disabled? That is assuming you are using the 1.5 or 1.6 version. === FYI, I am using the latest X server with hal enabled and the evdev input driver and it all works fine. -- Keith Dart Well, I had to disable hal on mine and so have a few others because hal doesn't work for us. I for example ended up with a GUI but no mouse or keyboard. So, just because something works for you does not mean it works for everybody else. Re-emerging xorg-server with hal disabled works just fine so I and a few others are not using hal. I don't know if this will help the OP or not but it is worth a try. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading ~x68 kde-4.2 to kde-4.3 question
On Sonntag 16 August 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 23:09:41 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 16 August 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 21:46:02 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 16 August 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 21:12:30 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag 16 August 2009 21:02:50 schrieb Roy Wright: So for the kde-4.3 upgrade, it looks like this is what will be necessary: 1) grab the sets again from the kde-testing overlay and put them in / etc/portage/sets (assumption is to do a replace). 2) unmerge kde-4.2 using: emerge --unmerge @kde-4.2 3) merge kde-4.3 using: emerge -av @kde-4.3 4) recustomize kde as the ~/.kde will not be migrated Am I on the right track? No. 1) They're in portage. He's asking about the set files, not the ebuilds. and you don't copy the set files. Which set files does one not copy, and why? you don't copy any set files because there is no reason to do so? And if the changes between kde-4.2 and kde-4.3 DO require changes to the set files to build everything, then what should one do? Not copy the files and live with the omission/breakage? Set files do not ship with a --sync, the user must either get them from somewhere or create them himself. And additions to 4.3 are not present in 4.2, so I don't understand your position. Seems to me that copying working set files from somewhere is a requirement in this case, especially if the user uses versioned set files. you install kde-testing. Suddenly you have all the set files needed. you have all the unmask files needed. You have all keyword files needed. And the overlay is not that big.
Re: [gentoo-user] problems with the web browsers
On Sunday 16 August 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 18:40:12 M Daniel R M wrote: Konqueror: very stable indeed, but it couldn't be at another way since it's a key piece of the KDE environment... The problem comes when I want to fill in forms (you know... web pages for registering, etc.). It stops many times without giving us an alert message or some kind of explanation, so you have to deduce that the problem is not from the website, but the browser instead. I don't know whether problems come from java or whatever..., I've checked my konqueror preferences and I'd bet they are all OK.. javascript support in konqueror sucks. For everything else it's actually OK. One of these days it will use webkit as the backend and then things might improve. Until then, I'm afraid you are SOL. Perhaps [O/T] but is webkit a fork of khtml, or was khtml stopped any development and webkit took over? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading ~x68 kde-4.2 to kde-4.3 question
On Aug 16, 2009, at 4:33 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 16 August 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 23:09:41 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 16 August 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 21:46:02 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 16 August 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 21:12:30 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag 16 August 2009 21:02:50 schrieb Roy Wright: So for the kde-4.3 upgrade, it looks like this is what will be necessary: 1) grab the sets again from the kde-testing overlay and put them in / etc/portage/sets (assumption is to do a replace). 2) unmerge kde-4.2 using: emerge --unmerge @kde-4.2 3) merge kde-4.3 using: emerge -av @kde-4.3 4) recustomize kde as the ~/.kde will not be migrated Am I on the right track? No. 1) They're in portage. He's asking about the set files, not the ebuilds. and you don't copy the set files. Which set files does one not copy, and why? you don't copy any set files because there is no reason to do so? And if the changes between kde-4.2 and kde-4.3 DO require changes to the set files to build everything, then what should one do? Not copy the files and live with the omission/breakage? Set files do not ship with a --sync, the user must either get them from somewhere or create them himself. And additions to 4.3 are not present in 4.2, so I don't understand your position. Seems to me that copying working set files from somewhere is a requirement in this case, especially if the user uses versioned set files. you install kde-testing. Suddenly you have all the set files needed. you have all the unmask files needed. You have all keyword files needed. And the overlay is not that big. I've been avoiding overlays (been bit a few times) and just running a testing (~x86) system. The first blocker is kde-menu-icons-4.2.4 which looks like it is replaced by kdebase-menu-icons-4.3.0, but here's what happens when attempting to unmerge kde-menu-icons-4.2.4: royw-gentoo portage # emerge --unmerge kde-menu-icons Not unmerging package kde-base/kde-menu-icons-4.2.4 as it is still referenced by the following package sets: kdebase No packages selected for removal by unmerge That's what started me looking for how to do the upgrade. Went ahead and added the kde-testing overlay. Then moved /etc/portage/ kde and /etc/portage/sets to /tmp. This allowed emerge -uDNav world to not have any stoppers. So it looks like the kde-4.3 upgrade is still tightly coupled to the kde-testing overlay. Thank you, Roy
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events
=== On Sun, 08/16, Dale wrote: === Well, I had to disable hal on mine and so have a few others because hal doesn't work for us. I for example ended up with a GUI but no mouse or keyboard. So, just because something works for you does not mean it works for everybody else. Re-emerging xorg-server with hal disabled works just fine so I and a few others are not using hal. Yes, but my point is that, likewise, just because something doesn't work for you does not mean it won't work for everybody else. ;-) I don't know if this will help the OP or not but it is worth a try. Try it, but it is probably something else. -- Keith Dart -- -- Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz ===
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events
=== On Sun, 08/16, Keith Dart wrote: === Try it, but it is probably something else. === BTW, another thing to try is to just comment out any input configuration in (e.g. for mouse or kbd driver) in your xorg.conf file. With hal/evdev it is now entirely automatic and having those in your config can confuse things. It's actually kind of nice that the X server config is getting smaller all the time. :-) -- Keith Dart -- -- Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz ===
[gentoo-user] Changing IPs in a hosted environment
My new IP seems to be on at least 2 spam lists. The other 7 IPs in my block seem to be on only 1 spam list. Should I leave my /etc/conf.d/net as-is, except add: alias_eth0=my.new.ip.address and then point DNS to my.new.ip.address? After doing this, will I be able to use my.new.ip.address in all external and internal fashions? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Changing IPs in a hosted environment
=== On Sun, 08/16, Grant wrote: === My new IP seems to be on at least 2 spam lists. === It might be better to just get them off the spam lists. ;-) Most of them have an automated system where they can re-check your IP and adjust the list. -- Keith Dart -- -- Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz ===
Re: [gentoo-user] Changing IPs in a hosted environment
My new IP seems to be on at least 2 spam lists. === It might be better to just get them off the spam lists. ;-) Most of them have an automated system where they can re-check your IP and adjust the list. -- Keith Dart Thanks Keith. Sounds like a good idea. Do you have a favorite blacklist checker? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Changing IPs in a hosted environment
=== On Sun, 08/16, Grant wrote: === Thanks Keith. Sounds like a good idea. Do you have a favorite blacklist checker? === No, just go to the main web site of whatever list you're on. I've had to do this some time ago. ;-) It wasn't too hard, but I don't remember the details now, sorry. -- Keith Dart -- -- Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz ===
Re: [gentoo-user] Changing IPs in a hosted environment
Thanks Keith. Sounds like a good idea. Do you have a favorite blacklist checker? === No, just go to the main web site of whatever list you're on. I've had to do this some time ago. ;-) It wasn't too hard, but I don't remember the details now, sorry. -- Keith Dart No problem, thanks again. - Grant
[gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events
* Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz [16/08/09 19:00]: === On Sun, 08/16, Keith Dart wrote: === Try it, but it is probably something else. === BTW, another thing to try is to just comment out any input configuration in (e.g. for mouse or kbd driver) in your xorg.conf file. With hal/evdev it is now entirely automatic and having those in your config can confuse things. It's actually kind of nice that the X server config is getting smaller all the time. :-) Thanks, but I tried that and it didn't help. On the other hand, I this time when I started X the problem is gone, so it seems that the problem is a bit random. Thanks, Moshe pgp43oNBOgiz1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events
=== On Sun, 08/16, Moshe Kamensky wrote: === Thanks, but I tried that and it didn't help. On the other hand, I this time when I started X the problem is gone, so it seems that the problem is a bit random. === Gotta hate those gremlins with dice. ;-) If it happens again I have some tools that can determine if the problem is in the X server, or the Linux kernel input/event subsystem. -- Keith Dart -- -- Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz ===
[gentoo-user] Network message encryption
Hello all, I'm looking for a network message encryption method. Please kindly tell me if you know any Instant Messenger which supports encryption. Thank you very much! Best regards, Wen -- Xianwen Chen Mobile: +86 13774 228909 Email: cxi...@post.uit.no; xianwen.c...@gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Re: prelink Gentoo docs confusing
On 08/15/2009 02:59 PM, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 18:27 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/prelink-howto.xml is says: You do not need to set FEATURES=prelink in your make.conf file; Portage will automatically support prelink if it can find the prelink binary. Does that mean there's a way portage will call prelink on its own when it finds it? Well, it doesn't here. I still have to manually prelink or have a cron job. I've always wondered this too, so I decided to test it: * Put prelink in my FEATURES in make.conf [...] So it appears that it *is* running it on its own. But the docs I quotes say You do not need to set FEATURES=prelink in your make.conf.
Re: [gentoo-user] Network message encryption
Xianwen Chen wrote: Hello all, I'm looking for a network message encryption method. Please kindly tell me if you know any Instant Messenger which supports encryption. Thank you very much! Best regards, Wen According to the USE flags, it appears that Kopete supports encryption. I have no clue how good it is or if this is exactly what you are looking for but you may want to look into it. [ebuild R ] kde-base/kopete-3.5.10-r4 USE=crypt groupwise highlight history sametime ssl statistics texteffect yahoo -addbookmarks -alias -autoreplace -connectionstatus -contactnotes -debug -emoticons-manager -gadu -irc -jabber (-jingle) -kdehiddenvisibility -latex -msn -netmeeting -nowlistening -oscar -slp -sms -translator -v4l2 -webpresence -winpopup -xscreensaver r...@smoker / # euse -i crypt global use flags (searching: crypt) [+ CD ] crypt - Add support for encryption -- using mcrypt or gpg where applicable Hope that gets you in the some sort of a direction. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events
Keith Dart wrote: === On Sun, 08/16, Keith Dart wrote: === Try it, but it is probably something else. === BTW, another thing to try is to just comment out any input configuration in (e.g. for mouse or kbd driver) in your xorg.conf file. With hal/evdev it is now entirely automatic and having those in your config can confuse things. It's actually kind of nice that the X server config is getting smaller all the time. :-) -- Keith Dart I just renamed xorg.conf to something else and tried it that way. It didn't like that either. I followed the guide on Gentoo.org and even tried a couple things people mentioned on this list but it still doesn't work. As soon as X comes up, no mouse, no keyboard. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Network message encryption
Xianwen Chen wrote: Hello all, I'm looking for a network message encryption method. Please kindly tell me if you know any Instant Messenger which supports encryption. Thank you very much! Best regards, Wen Well, for instant messengers, most do support some form of encryption, such that Empathy, Pidgin or any other client which can handle MSN must use encryption, as everything is sent over SSL. But, in general, I would suggest Pidgin, as via a plugin, it can be used in combination with OTR (Off-The-Record) which uses public-key encryption between clients, and ontop of that, there's even a plugin for pidgin which uses RSA instead, which I've found to be buggy, but is certainly a bit stronger in the cryptographic sense.
[gentoo-user] In search for a undeclared identifier...
Hi, I try to build the developper branch of a software project, which is not in Gentoo. This works a longer time. Now the compilatino process aborts with glmodule.c:926: error: 'glActiveTexture' undeclared (first use in this function) . Sounds somehow OpenGL-related: I am using a nVidia Corporation GeForce 7600 GT with NVidia-drivers and eselected opengl. Since Blender, which uses OpenGL a lot runs fine and is also build each day from developper sources... Does anyone know to what glActiveTexture belongs to? And where I can buy one for my Linux box ;) Thank you very much in advance for any helpful hint ! Best regards mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] Network message encryption
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:19:35 +0200 Xianwen Chen xianwen.c...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for a network message encryption method. Please kindly tell me if you know any Instant Messenger which supports encryption. Thank you very much! I'm using gajim with TLS-enabled (transport-level encryption) connection to the servers and built-in GPG plugin to encrypt messages, containing some auth info, which I occasionally have to pass. I believe pidgin also had support for such feature via one of the standard plugins. TLS is widely-deployed on XMPP (jabber) servers, but encryption ends at the server in question, so it can intercept / mangle the messages, so it might be good idea to prefer large and reliable servers to possibly-compromised or malicious small ones. Furthermore, in case of XMPP, your (source) server is free to pass the message in unencrypted form to destination server, so message can be caught by any IP-sniffers on the route. Then there's also remote client connection, which can be unencrypted (no TLS/SSL) and likewise intercepted on TCP/IP level. GPG encryption requires clients on both sides to support it, but has benefit that all cryptographic operations are happening on client machines, so server (or any intermediate host) is unable to spoof conversation, provided the encryption (GPG) keys aren't compromised. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] In search for a undeclared identifier...
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:20:05 +0200 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I try to build the developper branch of a software project, which is not in Gentoo. This works a longer time. Now the compilatino process aborts with glmodule.c:926: error: 'glActiveTexture' undeclared (first use in this function) . Sounds somehow OpenGL-related: I am using a nVidia Corporation GeForce 7600 GT with NVidia-drivers and eselected opengl. Since Blender, which uses OpenGL a lot runs fine and is also build each day from developper sources... Does anyone know to what glActiveTexture belongs to? And where I can buy one for my Linux box ;) Thank you very much in advance for any helpful hint ! On my system it's in /usr/include/GL/glew.h header, which belongs to media-libs/glew, so you probably need to have it installed. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: In search for a undeclared identifier...
On 08/17/2009 06:20 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I try to build the developper branch of a software project, which is not in Gentoo. This works a longer time. Now the compilatino process aborts with glmodule.c:926: error: 'glActiveTexture' undeclared (first use in this function) . Sounds somehow OpenGL-related: I am using a nVidia Corporation GeForce 7600 GT with NVidia-drivers and eselected opengl. Since Blender, which uses OpenGL a lot runs fine and is also build each day from developper sources... Does anyone know to what glActiveTexture belongs to? And where I can buy one for my Linux box ;) You don't need to buy anything. All you need is to tell the person who wrote glmodule.c to go fix the code :) It's probably a matter of: #define GL_GLEXT_PROTOTYPES #include GL/glext.h
[gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events
once I had a problem like this, and I solved it by adding the following section to xorg.conf: Section ServerFlags Option AllowEmptyInputfalse EndSection it happened earlier this year when I upgraded x11-base/xorg-x11. -- Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1] Sent from Campinas, SP, Brazil
[gentoo-user] Problem with pppd-added routes
Good day, I have a pretty much standard home/office setup with default route via local gateway machine (192.168.0.10) and I want to establish a PPTP tunnel to a remote network. pppd setup is pretty trivial. peer: pty pptp pptp server hostname --nolaunchpppd user user password password file /etc/ppp/options.pptp ipparam network_x options.pptp: noauth lock refuse-pap refuse-chap refuse-mschap require-mppe asyncmap 0x0 mru 1400 mtu 1400 nodefaultroute noipdefault Authentication works fine: using channel 33 Using interface ppp0 Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/pts/16 sh: /bin/ip: No such file or directory sh: /bin/ip: No such file or directory sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x296aa977 pcomp accomp] rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 auth chap MS-v2 magic 0x6cb4d92f pcomp accomp] sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 auth chap MS-v2 magic 0x6cb4d92f pcomp accomp] rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x296aa977 pcomp accomp] rcvd [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x6cb4d92f] sent [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x296aa977] rcvd [CHAP Challenge id=0x6 ..., name = pptpd] sent [CHAP Response id=0x6 ..., name = user] rcvd [CHAP Success id=0x6 S=...] CHAP authentication succeeded sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 mppe +H -M +S +L -D -C] rcvd [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 mppe +H -M +S -L -D -C] sent [CCP ConfAck id=0x1 mppe +H -M +S -L -D -C] rcvd [CCP ConfNak id=0x1 mppe +H -M +S -L -D -C] sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x2 mppe +H -M +S -L -D -C] rcvd [CCP ConfAck id=0x2 mppe +H -M +S -L -D -C] MPPE 128-bit stateless compression enabled sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 compress VJ 0f 01 addr 0.0.0.0] rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 compress VJ 0f 01 addr __pptp_server_ip__] sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1 compress VJ 0f 01 addr __pptp_server_ip__] rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x1 addr __given_ip__] sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 compress VJ 0f 01 addr __given_ip__] rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2 compress VJ 0f 01 addr __given_ip__] local IP address __given_ip__ remote IP address __pptp_server_ip__ Script /etc/ppp/ip-up started (pid 3138) Script /etc/ppp/ip-up finished (pid 3138), status = 0x0 But then, as usual, pppd messes up the routing table, adding the following route: __pptp_server_ip__ dev ppp0 proto kernel scope link src __given_ip__ resulting in routing table like this: __pptp_server_ip__ dev ppp0 proto kernel scope link src __given_ip__ 192.168.0.0/28 dev ath0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.0.11 127.0.0.0/8 via 127.0.0.1 dev lo default via 192.168.0.10 dev ath0 ...and ppp0 falls off in two minutes, because of inability to access __pptp_server_ip__. Naturally, all packets to __pptp_server_ip__ should go through 192.168.0.10 gateway, so I've always managed to work around this problem (with ISPs) by adding a route like this: __pptp_server_ip__ via 192.168.0.10 dev ath0 And it was used instead of the one, added by pppd. Now, the situation got a bit more complicated, because __pptp_server_ip__ is actually dynamic - there are several dozens of them, given by DNS on round-robin basis, so it seems quite irrational and hacky to add all of them to routing table. Always using just one of them doesn't seem to be a clean solution, as well. Likewise, if-up script to clean up the messy route looks like a hack, especially because connection will be messed up it won't be fast enough - 1 second delay in removing this route results in tons of 'Protocol Rejected' errors (my guess is that ppp connection gets desynchronised), which can only be fixed by reconnection. So, the question: can I tell pppd/kernel not to add this route somehow? I bet there should be some option, but I'm unable to find it in man page or google. Prehaps I can ban pppd from adding _any_ routes somehow? Sorry for such a long post, just wanted to make the problem as clear as possible. Thanks. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] In search for a undeclared identifier...
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:42:12 +0600 Mike Kazantsev mk.frag...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:20:05 +0200 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I try to build the developper branch of a software project, which is not in Gentoo. This works a longer time. Now the compilatino process aborts with glmodule.c:926: error: 'glActiveTexture' undeclared (first use in this function) . Sounds somehow OpenGL-related: I am using a nVidia Corporation GeForce 7600 GT with NVidia-drivers and eselected opengl. Since Blender, which uses OpenGL a lot runs fine and is also build each day from developper sources... Does anyone know to what glActiveTexture belongs to? And where I can buy one for my Linux box ;) Thank you very much in advance for any helpful hint ! On my system it's in /usr/include/GL/glew.h header, which belongs to media-libs/glew, so you probably need to have it installed. My bad, I've misread grep results. It really is in /usr/include/GL/glext.h. And that file should be symlink created by eselect opengl with source belonging either to media-libs/mesa or nvidia drivers. If source file include lines are correct, you might want to try re-emerging nvidia drivers and eselect'ing them. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: In search for a undeclared identifier...
On 08/17/2009 07:52 AM, Mike Kazantsev wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:42:12 +0600 Mike Kazantsevmk.frag...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:20:05 +0200 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I try to build the developper branch of a software project, which is not in Gentoo. This works a longer time. Now the compilatino process aborts with glmodule.c:926: error: 'glActiveTexture' undeclared (first use in this function) . [...] On my system it's in /usr/include/GL/glew.h header, which belongs to media-libs/glew, so you probably need to have it installed. My bad, I've misread grep results. It really is in /usr/include/GL/glext.h. And that file should be symlink created by eselect opengl with source belonging either to media-libs/mesa or nvidia drivers. If source file include lines are correct, you might want to try re-emerging nvidia drivers and eselect'ing them. The header file is probably installed correctly, since the compiler's error complains about an undeclared identifier rather than a non-existent header (error: GL/glext.h: No such file or directory).
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events
ABCD wrote:
Dale wrote:
I just renamed xorg.conf to something else and tried it that way. It
didn't like that either. I followed the guide on Gentoo.org and even
tried a couple things people mentioned on this list but it still doesn't
work. As soon as X comes up, no mouse, no keyboard.
Is CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV set to y or m in your kernel config? If not,
then xf86-input-evdev will not work, as you won't have the
/dev/input/event{0,1,...} devices it needs.
Mine is set to build in the kernel.
r...@smoker / # cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV
CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=y
r...@smoker / #
So, another possible cause dealt with. Still watching for others tho.
Dale
:-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg dropping keyboard events
Crístian Viana wrote: once I had a problem like this, and I solved it by adding the following section to xorg.conf: Section ServerFlags Option AllowEmptyInputfalse EndSection it happened earlier this year when I upgraded x11-base/xorg-x11. -- Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1] Sent from Campinas, SP, Brazil Yea, that does the same as disabling hal tho. Just faster than recompiling xorg-server with -hal. I forgot about doing it that way. I'm getting to old. :/ Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading ~x68 kde-4.2 to kde-4.3 question
Am Montag 17 August 2009 00:12:33 schrieb Roy Wright: So it looks like the kde-4.3 upgrade is still tightly coupled to the kde-testing overlay. No, it's not. I don't have the kde-testing overlay and update went smooth, except for the blockers you mentioned, but they were solved by simply uninstallind these ebuilds. The differences are: 1) I don't use sets. 2) I use paludis. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] problems with the web browsers
On 16 Aug 2009, at 22:36, Mick wrote: ... javascript support in konqueror sucks. For everything else it's actually OK. One of these days it will use webkit as the backend and then things might improve. Until then, I'm afraid you are SOL. Perhaps [O/T] but is webkit a fork of khtml, or was khtml stopped any development and webkit took over? Webkit is a fork of KHTML (and KJS, KDE's JavaScript engine) but I get the impression that it has benefited from Apple's legion of paid full time engineers. The initial development by Apple was done stealthily, and they made significant changes (some of which were quite MacOS specific) so it was not possible to reintegrate their modifications. KHTML Webkit retain separate codebases, then. SquirrelFish seems interesting relevant to this conversation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit (also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KHTML) Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading ~x68 kde-4.2 to kde-4.3 question
Am Sonntag 16 August 2009 23:18:40 schrieb Alan McKinnon: And if the changes between kde-4.2 and kde-4.3 DO require changes to the set files to build everything, then what should one do? Not copy the files and live with the omission/breakage? I maybe wrong here, but aren't the sets in kde-testing just examples, which are equivalent to what to get with the meta ebuilds? And, they're not in portage, so they are not needed at all to install kde. So no, not copying them will not cause any breakage, using them may do so. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
