Re: [gentoo-user] sys-fs/udev-200 compile failed during new installation

2013-04-04 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 12:41:26AM -0900, Jackie wrote: Hello all,I was trying to reinstall gentoo on my PC and when I was emerging gentoo-sources-3.8.5,sys-fs/udev-200 was required.However,after installation of gentoo-sources,comlpilation of udev failed and there is no output of error

Re: [gentoo-user] stage3 only for i486?

2013-04-04 Thread Davide Carnovale
Stroller, i didn't knew what a chroot was back then either, but i've found in gentoo a vdery good teacher. If you are willing to learn, with gentoo you can go as deeper as you want and learn a lot. Most of the linux knowledge i have i owe it to gentoo. As far as i understand know, chroot is

[gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-04 Thread Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
On 2013-04-01, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/01/2013 03:26 PM, William Hubbs wrote: You know that both udev and eudev have exactly the same issue with separate /usr right? The problem there isn't in the udev code, but it has to do with what is happening in rules that other

[gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-04 Thread Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
On 2013-04-02, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/04/2013 21:13, Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: The most important para to me in the news item was: The feature can also be completely disabled using

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: stage3 only for i486?

2013-04-04 Thread Yuri K. Shatroff
On 03.04.2013 23:36, Alan McKinnon wrote: The reason I say Gentoo shouldn't worry about installers is that the typical person installing Gentoo already knows about chroots. Someone who doesn't is unlikely to consider Gentoo at all (unless they are looking to rice, but we long since moved past

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: stage3 only for i486?

2013-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/04/2013 10:15, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: Well, an installer certainly would find its users. But none is perfect, and writing another (imperfect) one exclusively for Gentoo is sort of wasting time. A true Gentoo way IMO would be a selection of installers on the installation medium ;-) But

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/04/2013 10:10, Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg) wrote: Sort of the same here, except that I use lan0 instead of eth0, because once in a while I use broadcom's wireless drivers instead of the kernel drivers, and the former assign an ethX name. Sadly, I still get some problems after resuming

Re: [gentoo-user] kded4 keeping a flash drive busy

2013-04-04 Thread Yohan Pereira
On 03/04/13 at 03:47pm, Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, I am sorry, I think I did not make myself clear. The only process using the flash drive is kded4. The link I sent was the closest search result about the same issue (not able to umount a flash drive). Thanks Francisco Well the reason

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: stage3 only for i486?

2013-04-04 Thread Joshua Murphy
I On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote: On 04/04/2013 10:15, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: Well, an installer certainly would find its users. But none is perfect, and writing another (imperfect) one exclusively for Gentoo is sort of wasting time. A true

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-04-04 5:13 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: I gets so bad that people are starting to make shit up to be worried about, instead of just reading the simple document that is right in front of their eyes that already fully and completely answers the question at hand

[gentoo-user] VirtualBox guest eth0/enp0s3 problem

2013-04-04 Thread João Matos
Hi list. I decided to install a virtual server for testing some stuff, but I couldn't configure eth0 as usual. The system complain it doesn't exist. After compiling the kernel hundreds of times, I supposed the problem wasn't my kernel configuration then installed dhcpcd. For my surprise, I got

Re: [gentoo-user] VirtualBox guest eth0/enp0s3 problem

2013-04-04 Thread Felix Kuperjans
Hi João, João Matos: Hi list. I decided to install a virtual server for testing some stuff, but I couldn't configure eth0 as usual. The system complain it doesn't exist. After compiling the kernel hundreds of times, I supposed the problem wasn't my kernel configuration then installed

Re: [gentoo-user] VirtualBox guest eth0/enp0s3 problem

2013-04-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/04/2013 15:27, João Matos wrote: Hi list. I decided to install a virtual server for testing some stuff, but I couldn't configure eth0 as usual. The system complain it doesn't exist. After compiling the kernel hundreds of times, I supposed the problem wasn't my kernel configuration

Re: [gentoo-user] kded4 keeping a flash drive busy

2013-04-04 Thread Andrés Becerra Sandoval
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Francisco Ares fra...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All Issuing a fuser -m [mount-point] shows that kded4 keeps using the flash drive device, so I am not allowed to umount it. Any hints on how to solve this? The most relevant search result is in

Re: [gentoo-user] VirtualBox guest eth0/enp0s3 problem

2013-04-04 Thread João Matos
2013/4/4 Felix Kuperjans fe...@desaster-games.com Hi João, João Matos: Hi list. I decided to install a virtual server for testing some stuff, but I couldn't configure eth0 as usual. The system complain it doesn't exist. After compiling the kernel hundreds of times, I supposed the

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-fs/udev-200 compile failed during new installation

2013-04-04 Thread Jackie
在 Wed, 03 Apr 2013 22:43:53 -0900,Hinnerk van Bruinehsen h.v.bruineh...@fu-berlin.de 写道: On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 12:41:26AM -0900, Jackie wrote: Hello all,I was trying to reinstall gentoo on my PC and when I was emerging gentoo-sources-3.8.5,sys-fs/udev-200 was required.However,after

[gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-04-03, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 03 Apr 2013 20:46:37 Bruce Hill wrote: Therefore, all's well that's still working! And AFAIR, on at least 2 of those machines, the 70-persistent-net.rules was never something I did manually. Right, it used to be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-04 Thread Michael Mol
On 04/04/2013 10:59 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2013-04-03, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 03 Apr 2013 20:46:37 Bruce Hill wrote: Therefore, all's well that's still working! And AFAIR, on at least 2 of those machines, the 70-persistent-net.rules was never something I did

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 16:38:28 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: Have you read the news item? Yes. I found it rather confusing. It refers to a new format for rules, but the examples use the exact same format as the old rules. Poor choice of terminology there, the format is the same only

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 09:07:00 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Not to mention the fact that this final/current seemingly complete document was way, way too late for the many people who ended up with totally broken systems, and *that* is what caused all of the 'hysteria and mob-think' you so

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-04 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 11:28:10PM +0100, Mick wrote: On Wednesday 03 Apr 2013 20:46:37 Bruce Hill wrote: Therefore, all's well that's still working! And AFAIR, on at least 2 of those machines, the 70-persistent-net.rules was never something I did manually. Right, it used to be

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-04 Thread Jörg Schaible
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 16:38:28 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: Have you read the news item? Yes. I found it rather confusing. It refers to a new format for rules, but the examples use the exact same format as the old rules. Poor choice of terminology there, the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: stage3 only for i486?

2013-04-04 Thread Philip Webb
130404 Alan McKinnon wrote: A true GentooWay installer would be any installer of your own choice that launches the shell of your chosing, accepts any stage3 tarball that you want and gotten from anywhere you choose to get it, and unpacked any place you feel like putting it. It will then run

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [way OT but interesting] Massive recent DDOS attack

2013-04-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 03.04.2013 13:16, schrieb J. Roeleveld: On Wed, April 3, 2013 11:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 03 Apr 2013 05:46:07 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: Do guinea pigs work better or worse than tribbles at calming you? Tribbles don't keep people calm indefinitely. At some point they all die from

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-04 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 05:05:06PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 09:07:00 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Or, as an alternative, *how* to switch to eudev (their web page does *not* have simple/precise instructions on how to switch, only a description of what it is) - ie, do I