Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd always shows "crashed" even though it's running

2015-09-04 Thread Mick
On Friday 04 Sep 2015 09:48:00 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 08:06:18 +0100, Mick wrote: > > Also, here at least, I have /run/dhcpcd/ with its subdirectories as > > well as /run/dhcpcd-enp11s0.pid both owned by root:root, but this is a > > laptop and the dhcpcd is launched by ifplugd.

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-04 Thread Mick
On Friday 04 Sep 2015 10:42:33 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday 03 September 2015 16:27:26 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 03/09/2015 15:56, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > > x11-base/xorg-server > > > > Remove. The server is a dep for just about everything GUI-related > > Not so here on this

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage is proposing an ncurses update and I don't understand what it means

2015-09-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 10:52:23 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > And the name is confusing, it's all indicative of the concept not > > being thought all the way through. > > I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who has trouble with the ways > other people use English. :) That's what you get

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [WAY OT] wanna learn networking internals

2015-09-04 Thread Todd Goodman
* Alan McKinnon [150904 08:15]: > On 03/09/2015 21:46, Francisco Ares wrote: [..SNIP..] > > - there was a teletype > > (remember those?) > > Golf balls. Gods, those things made a racket. I think the golf balls you're referencing were the IBM selectrics? [..SNIP..] >

Re: [gentoo-user] [WAY OT] wanna learn networking internals

2015-09-04 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Friday, September 04, 2015 9:53:51 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 22:47:45 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > The absolute best network RFCs are the ones about coffeepot over HTTP, > > and IP by carrier pigoen (or is it Avain IP? something like that) > > There's one about matter

Re: [gentoo-user] [WAY OT] wanna learn networking internals

2015-09-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 06:26:52 -0400, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > The best IMO is RFC 2795 - The Infinite Monkey Protocol Suite. I believe that is now known as "Facebook" :) -- Neil Bothwick "Self-explanatory": technospeak for "Incomprehensible & undocumented" pgpS_1mZnUi5p.pgp Description:

Re: [gentoo-user] broken seamonkey :(

2015-09-04 Thread Mick
On Friday 04 Sep 2015 08:54:19 Peter Weilbacher wrote: > Are you sure that diving right into about:config is the best way? In > SeaMonkey, take a look under Preferences -> Privacy & Security -> > Certificates. Under "Manage Certificates..." you can import your own > certificates which I think is

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd always shows "crashed" even though it's running

2015-09-04 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Friday, September 04, 2015 8:06:18 AM Mick wrote: > On Friday 04 Sep 2015 03:46:04 Dale wrote: > > Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > > On Thursday, September 03, 2015 8:47:34 PM Dale wrote: > > > > > > I don't know if this will help or not but don't forget the zap option. > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd always shows "crashed" even though it's running

2015-09-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:10:46 +0100, Mick wrote: > > Using ifplugd to manage your connection can conflict with the openrc > > stuff. If you install ifplugd but do not configure it to run, openrc > > will use it itself, avoiding any such conflicts. > > I am a bit confused about your statement not

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-04 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 04 September 2015 11:00:33 Mick wrote: > On Friday 04 Sep 2015 10:42:33 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Thursday 03 September 2015 16:27:26 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > On 03/09/2015 15:56, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > > > x11-base/xorg-server > > > > > > Remove. The server is a dep for

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd always shows "crashed" even though it's running

2015-09-04 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 9/3/2015 8:59 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Thursday, September 03, 2015 8:09:02 PM Mike Edenfield wrote: What makes rc-status think something is crashed, and how can I fix this? basement log # rc-status -v | grep crashed dhcpd [ crashed ] basement log # ps aux | grep dhcpd root

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage is proposing an ncurses update and I don't understand what it means

2015-09-04 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 04 September 2015 01:01:34 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 04/09/2015 00:05, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > >>> I think it is an Einstein quote > > > > [..] > > > >> And Feynmann said something > > > > [..] > > > I don't think they're misnamed, the problem is in our heads. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage is proposing an ncurses update and I don't understand what it means

2015-09-04 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 04 September 2015 11:29:17 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 10:52:23 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > And the name is confusing, it's all indicative of the concept not > > > being thought all the way through. > > > > I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who has trouble with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage is proposing an ncurses update and I don't understand what it means

2015-09-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 00:05:27 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > But don't you agree that it *should* be possible to simply pull upgrades > from the distro of choice without solving "problems in my head" ? > > IMO it's the definition of maintainers to keep that level of complexity > away from

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-04 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 03 September 2015 16:27:26 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 03/09/2015 15:56, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > x11-base/xorg-server > > Remove. The server is a dep for just about everything GUI-related Not so here on this KDE box. I removed it from my world file and emerge -ca wanted to

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 10:42:33 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> > x11-base/xorg-server > > > > Remove. The server is a dep for just about everything GUI-related > > Not so here on this KDE box. I removed it from my world file and emerge > -ca wanted to remove the server, so I put it back

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-04 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 04 September 2015 11:31:25 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 10:42:33 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> > x11-base/xorg-server > > > > > > Remove. The server is a dep for just about everything GUI-related > > > > Not so here on this KDE box. I removed it from my world file

Re: [gentoo-user] [WAY OT] wanna learn networking internals

2015-09-04 Thread Francisco Ares
2015-09-03 3:28 GMT-03:00 Mihamina Rakotomandimby < mihamina.rakotomandi...@rktmb.org>: > In order to complete other answers, I woul like to point out a test > environment that would be nice: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marionnet > > > Thanks, Mihamina, I've being looking to Marionet, and it

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/09/2015 10:38, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 13:56:51 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > sys-kernel/gentoo-sources > sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:3.10.17 > sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:3.5.7 Wee bit behind on kernel versions... >>> >>> Yes, only the

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/09/2015 11:42, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday 03 September 2015 16:27:26 Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 03/09/2015 15:56, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> x11-base/xorg-server >> >> Remove. The server is a dep for just about everything GUI-related > > Not so here on this KDE box. I

[gentoo-user] git clone tricks

2015-09-04 Thread James
hello, So I'm still learning the tricks of git.. I tried all sorts of things suggested on the net, but I cannot seem to find a way to clone this site: https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/gli.git/tree/ This site does not exist:: https://gentoo.org/proj/gli.git/ Ideas or alternate archive sites

Re: [gentoo-user] git clone tricks

2015-09-04 Thread Michel Catudal
Le 2015-09-04 11:51, James a écrit : hello, So I'm still learning the tricks of git.. I tried all sorts of things suggested on the net, but I cannot seem to find a way to clone this site: https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/gli.git/tree/ This site does not exist::

[gentoo-user] [OT] Getting stuff off a Mac machine

2015-09-04 Thread Andrew Lowe
Hi all, A friend has a, I thin a few years old - Yosemite, Mac that I need to get some large files off. I though Mac's could read NTFS, the files are bigger than 4GB hence NTFS over FAT32, hence formatted a spare USB drive as NTFS and then plugged it into the machine. No go on the copy. I

Re: [gentoo-user] git clone tricks

2015-09-04 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2015-09-04 um 17:51 schrieb James: hello, So I'm still learning the tricks of git.. I tried all sorts of things suggested on the net, but I cannot seem to find a way to clone this site: https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/gli.git/tree/ This site does not exist::

Re: [gentoo-user] git clone tricks

2015-09-04 Thread Emanuele Rusconi
On 4 September 2015 at 17:51, James wrote: > hello, > > So I'm still learning the tricks of git.. > > I tried all sorts of things suggested on the net, but I cannot > seem to find a way to clone this site: > > https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/gli.git/tree/ > > This

Re: [gentoo-user] Git equivalent of pg_dumpall?

2015-09-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 09/04/2015 01:09 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > Similar to the recent thread on cloning... > > I don't know and have never even used Git, but I need to get a complete > and total backup of an entire Git repository to a single file that can > then be cloned into a new git repo on another system. This

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd always shows "crashed" even though it's running

2015-09-04 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Friday, September 04, 2015 7:25:31 AM Mike Edenfield wrote: > On 9/3/2015 8:59 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > On Thursday, September 03, 2015 8:09:02 PM Mike Edenfield wrote: > > >> What makes rc-status think something is crashed, and how can I fix this? > >> > >> basement log # rc-status

[gentoo-user] Git equivalent of pg_dumpall?

2015-09-04 Thread Tanstaafl
Similar to the recent thread on cloning... I don't know and have never even used Git, but I need to get a complete and total backup of an entire Git repository to a single file that can then be cloned into a new git repo on another system. This was for a software project that was being developed

Re: [gentoo-user] [WAY OT] wanna learn networking internals

2015-09-04 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Friday, September 04, 2015 11:32:39 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 06:26:52 -0400, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > > The best IMO is RFC 2795 - The Infinite Monkey Protocol Suite. > > I believe that is now known as "Facebook" :) That's the reference implementation. It turned out

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't update to go-1.4.2

2015-09-04 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Friday, September 04, 2015 4:23:57 PM Ajai Khattri wrote: > > I know that Go 1.5 is limited to 64bit CPUs but im running on a 64bit CPU > and Im trying to update Go from 1.0 to the latest stable (which is 1.4.2 > anyway): > > dev ~ # emerge -uDatv dev-lang/go > > * IMPORTANT: 8 news

Re: [gentoo-user] broken seamonkey :(

2015-09-04 Thread lee
Mick writes: > On Friday 04 Sep 2015 08:54:19 Peter Weilbacher wrote: > >> Are you sure that diving right into about:config is the best way? In >> SeaMonkey, take a look under Preferences -> Privacy & Security -> >> Certificates. Under "Manage Certificates..." you can

Re: [gentoo-user] broken seamonkey :(

2015-09-04 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Friday, September 04, 2015 9:50:43 PM lee wrote: > Mick writes: > > > On Friday 04 Sep 2015 08:54:19 Peter Weilbacher wrote: > > > >> Are you sure that diving right into about:config is the best way? In > >> SeaMonkey, take a look under Preferences -> Privacy &

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Getting stuff off a Mac machine

2015-09-04 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, September 05, 2015 12:57:02 AM Andrew Lowe wrote: > Hi all, > A friend has a, I thin a few years old - Yosemite, Mac that I need to > get some large files off. I though Mac's could read NTFS, the files are > bigger than 4GB hence NTFS over FAT32, hence formatted a spare USB

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Getting stuff off a Mac machine

2015-09-04 Thread Stroller
On Fri, 4 September 2015, at 5:57 pm, Andrew Lowe wrote: > > A friend has a, I thin a few years old - Yosemite, Mac that I need to > get some large files off. I though Mac's could read NTFS, the files are > bigger than 4GB hence NTFS over FAT32, hence formatted a spare

[gentoo-user] Can't update to go-1.4.2

2015-09-04 Thread Ajai Khattri
I know that Go 1.5 is limited to 64bit CPUs but im running on a 64bit CPU and Im trying to update Go from 1.0 to the latest stable (which is 1.4.2 anyway): dev ~ # emerge -uDatv dev-lang/go * IMPORTANT: 8 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'. * Use eselect news read to view

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't update to go-1.4.2

2015-09-04 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Friday, September 04, 2015 4:28:43 PM Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On Friday, September 04, 2015 4:23:57 PM Ajai Khattri wrote: > > > > I know that Go 1.5 is limited to 64bit CPUs but im running on a 64bit CPU > > and Im trying to update Go from 1.0 to the latest stable (which is 1.4.2 > >

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 15:24:02 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > You don't need the source package for the kernel you're running, > > you've already compiled it, but there's another sets trick you can > > use to prevent depclean from removing kernel packages, put this > > in /etc/portage/sets.conf >

Re: [gentoo-user] /var/tmp/notmpfs - does not exist

2015-09-04 Thread Dale
the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > When I try to run emerge on my system I get: > > ... > * Your boot partition was not mounted at /boot, so it will be automounted > for you. > * Files will be installed there for grub to function correctly. Running pre-merge checks for dev-db/mysql-5.6.26

[gentoo-user] /var/tmp/notmpfs - does not exist

2015-09-04 Thread thelma
When I try to run emerge on my system I get: ... * Your boot partition was not mounted at /boot, so it will be automounted for you. * Files will be installed there for grub to function correctly. >>> Running pre-merge checks for dev-db/mysql-5.6.26 >>> Running pre-merge checks for

[gentoo-user] MX Master mouse on bluetooth

2015-09-04 Thread Ian Savoy
Hey all, I splurged on a new mx master mouse a few weeks ago, and it's been working fine using the unified receiver that is included with the mouse. However, it's not the only bluetooth device i have, and it would be nice not to have two easy-to-lose dongles stuck in my laptop at all times (not

Re: [gentoo-user] Git equivalent of pg_dumpall?

2015-09-04 Thread Tanstaafl
Thanks Rich (& Michael)... Will use git bundle then. Apreciated! On 9/4/2015 6:32 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> On 09/04/2015 01:09 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: >>> Similar to the recent thread on cloning... >>>

[gentoo-user] Re: git clone tricks

2015-09-04 Thread James
Michel Catudal comcast.net> writes: > > So I'm still learning the tricks of git.. I guess one of those tricks is to mush around and find the clone instructions.. > It will work with https://anongit.gentoo.org/git/proj/gli.git Yep.. Ok thanks guys for point out the elephant

Re: [gentoo-user] broken seamonkey :(

2015-09-04 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, September 05, 2015 1:05:06 AM lee wrote: > Fernando Rodriguez writes: > > > On Friday, September 04, 2015 9:50:43 PM lee wrote: > >> Mick writes: > >> > >> > On Friday 04 Sep 2015 08:54:19 Peter Weilbacher wrote: > >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Git equivalent of pg_dumpall?

2015-09-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 09/04/2015 01:09 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: >> Similar to the recent thread on cloning... >> >> I don't know and have never even used Git, but I need to get a complete >> and total backup of an entire Git repository to a

Re: [gentoo-user] broken seamonkey :(

2015-09-04 Thread lee
Fernando Rodriguez writes: > On Friday, September 04, 2015 9:50:43 PM lee wrote: >> Mick writes: >> >> > On Friday 04 Sep 2015 08:54:19 Peter Weilbacher wrote: >> > >> >> Are you sure that diving right into about:config is the best

Re: [gentoo-user] broken seamonkey :(

2015-09-04 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, September 05, 2015 1:05:06 AM lee wrote: > In this case, I happen to have full physical access to the server and > thus to the certificate stored on it. This is not the case for, let's > say, an employee checking his work-email from home whom I might give the > login-data on the

Re: [gentoo-user] Git equivalent of pg_dumpall?

2015-09-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 09/04/2015 06:32 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> On 09/04/2015 01:09 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: >>> Similar to the recent thread on cloning... >>> >>> I don't know and have never even used Git, but I need to get a complete >>> and

Re: [gentoo-user] Git equivalent of pg_dumpall?

2015-09-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 09/04/2015 06:32 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >>> On 09/04/2015 01:09 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Similar to the recent thread on cloning...

Re: [gentoo-user] broken seamonkey :(

2015-09-04 Thread Peter Weilbacher
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, lee wrote: > Thank you. The problem is that it doesn't let me add an exception. Only > the older versions do that. All options to add an exception are > disabled. > > There is 'browser.ssl_override_behavior', the value of which is > 2. Guessing by what that means from [2],

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd always shows "crashed" even though it's running

2015-09-04 Thread Mick
On Friday 04 Sep 2015 03:46:04 Dale wrote: > Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > On Thursday, September 03, 2015 8:47:34 PM Dale wrote: > > > > I don't know if this will help or not but don't forget the zap option. > > > > root@fireball / # /etc/init.d/dhcpcd > > broken ineediuse needsme

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 22:35:59 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Cleanups: Sometimes when cleaning up you'll delete something you really > do need, and you forget why you put it in world. Maybe emerge world puts > it back, but more likely stuff just breaks. Keep a list of all removals > so if you find

Re: [gentoo-user] audacity-2.0.5 failed to compile

2015-09-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 13:56:51 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > >>> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources > >>> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:3.10.17 > >>> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:3.5.7 > >> > >> Wee bit behind on kernel versions... > > > > Yes, only the first is needed, *unless* thelma wants to keep

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd always shows "crashed" even though it's running

2015-09-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 08:06:18 +0100, Mick wrote: > Also, here at least, I have /run/dhcpcd/ with its subdirectories as > well as /run/dhcpcd-enp11s0.pid both owned by root:root, but this is a > laptop and the dhcpcd is launched by ifplugd. Using ifplugd to manage your connection can conflict with

Re: [gentoo-user] [WAY OT] wanna learn networking internals

2015-09-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 22:47:45 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > The absolute best network RFCs are the ones about coffeepot over HTTP, > and IP by carrier pigoen (or is it Avain IP? something like that) There's one about matter transfer by email attachments too. -- Neil Bothwick Tact is the