Re: [gentoo-user] How to dump kde gracefully in favor of lxde

On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 13:28:44 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > *IMPORTANT* KDE is obscene about dependancies. E.g. when a > > > lightweight pdf-reader was phased out, I looked at various options > > > including okular. It's an "itty-bitty-little-applet"... that seems > > > to pull in 90% of KDE

Re: [gentoo-user] How to dump kde gracefully in favor of lxde

On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 19:56:52 +, Mick wrote: > > On the other hand, > > I can't keep GNOME stuff off my KDE system > > :-) > > > > % qlist -ICv gnome > > app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.20.10-r1 > > gnome-base/dconf-0.26.0-r1 > > gnome-base/gconf-3.2.6-r4 > > gnome-base/gnome-common-3.18.0-r1

Re: [gentoo-user] How to dump kde gracefully in favor of lxde

On Sunday 19 Feb 2017 20:02:04 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 19:56:52 +, Mick wrote: > > > On the other hand, > > > I can't keep GNOME stuff off my KDE system > > : > > :-) > > : > > > % qlist -ICv gnome > > > app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.20.10-r1 > > > gnome-base/dconf-0.26.0-r1 >

Re: [gentoo-user] How to dump kde gracefully in favor of lxde

On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 10:04:29AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote > On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 22:05:01 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > *IMPORTANT* KDE is obscene about dependancies. E.g. when a > > lightweight pdf-reader was phased out, I looked at various options > > including okular. It's an

Re: [gentoo-user] How to dump kde gracefully in favor of lxde

On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 14:21:58 +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > KDE3 had its own IPC protocol, DCOP, that was used as the basis for > > DBus. Once there was a standard IPC system, there was no need for KDE > > to maintain its own. GNOME and KDE are integrated suites of software, > > some form of

Re: [gentoo-user] How to dump kde gracefully in favor of lxde

On Sunday 19 Feb 2017 19:37:43 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > question was how to get rid of KDE libraries/framework. I replied > > that Harry would have to get rid of every last KDE-based app(lication) > > in the process. There is no such animal as a "small KDE app". > > That's right, because it is

Re: [gentoo-user] How to keep my system from (nearly) freezing?

On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 01:53:49PM +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote > sometime I have some memory hungry ebuilds in the background, when > I start (e.g.) Chromium which needs very much memory if you have a > lot of open tabs. > > In that case my system nearly freezes. I cannot even kill chrome. >

Re: [gentoo-user] How to keep my system from (nearly) freezing?

On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 14:36:17 +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > # killa chromium > # killall > in this case likely (never installed any of Schmoog's browsers): > # killall chromium It's "killall chrome". -- Neil Bothwick A pessimist complains about the noise when opportunity knocks.

[gentoo-user] package.provided syntax for overlay

Hi All, Given sddm is not working for my setup, as per bug #608690, I thought of trying entrance from the bar overlay. It wants to pull in enlightenment, which I have already installed from the main tree and would like to keep it as such: # emerge -uaDv entrance These are the packages that

[gentoo-user] shutdown -r now hangs in qemu-vm

Since updating app-emulation/libvirt and/or app-emulation/qemu (both were updated at the same time) I have a problem executing "shutdown -r now" in the vm ("shutdown -h now" works fine). When I execute "shutdown -r now" in the vm the shutdown process runs perfect until "Remounting root-filesystem

[gentoo-user] Collision between app-arch/lrzip and net-dialup/lrzsz

Hi, Both packages install the files: * Detected file collision(s): * * /usr/bin/lrz * /usr/share/man/man1/lrz.1.bz2 * I IxQuicked for that but didn't find anything useful. Is there a gentle way out of this collision or is this a typical Highlander situation? Cheers Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] Collision between app-arch/lrzip and net-dialup/lrzsz

On 19/02/2017 16:53, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > Both packages install the files: > > * Detected file collision(s): > * > */usr/bin/lrz > */usr/share/man/man1/lrz.1.bz2 > * > > I IxQuicked for that but didn't find anything useful. > Is there a gentle way out of this

Re: [gentoo-user] ffmpeg and libav: a slot conflict

On Sunday 19 Feb 2017 09:01:55 Gevisz wrote: > On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 23:15:33 + Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 17:01:52 +0200, Gevisz wrote: > > > > I think the problem is that you don't allow chromium to be rebuilt, > > > > because all your blocking packages

Re: [gentoo-user] package.provided syntax for overlay

On Sunday 19 Feb 2017 10:50:31 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 11:45:27 +0100, Johannes Rosenberger wrote: > > > So I tried in /etc/portage/package.provided any combination of these: > > > > > > x11-wm/enlightenment-:0.17/::bar > > > > > > =x11-wm/enlightenment-:0.17 > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] How to keep my system from (nearly) freezing?

Helmut Jarausch [17-02-19 14:04]: > Hi, > > sometime I have some memory hungry ebuilds in the background, when I > start (e.g.) Chromium which needs very much memory if you have a lot of > open tabs. > > In that case my system nearly freezes. I cannot even kill chrome. >

[gentoo-user] svn-server setup (need it for gnunet in Air-Gap install)

The support question is at end. But I alsot thought it useful to relate my experience with installing Gnunet. I've successfully deployed installing from my Cgit-on-Apache served cloned git's, whichever that I need, as you can read in: Pale Moon Air-Gapped portage EAPI 6 Install

[gentoo-user] How to keep my system from (nearly) freezing?

Hi, sometime I have some memory hungry ebuilds in the background, when I start (e.g.) Chromium which needs very much memory if you have a lot of open tabs. In that case my system nearly freezes. I cannot even kill chrome. What can I do in that case. (Remote login doesn't work either) Can

Re: [gentoo-user] How to dump kde gracefully in favor of lxde

On Saturday 18 Feb 2017 22:05:01 Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 04:57:52PM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote > > > Any advice about slick ways of getting fully updated but dumping kde > > on the way. > > *IMPORTANT* KDE is obscene about dependancies. E.g. when a > lightweight pdf-reader

Re: [gentoo-user] How to dump kde gracefully in favor of lxde

On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 22:05:01 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > *IMPORTANT* KDE is obscene about dependancies. E.g. when a > lightweight pdf-reader was phased out, I looked at various options > including okular. It's an "itty-bitty-little-applet"... that seems to > pull in 90% of KDE as

Re: [gentoo-user] package.provided syntax for overlay

On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 11:45:27 +0100, Johannes Rosenberger wrote: > > So I tried in /etc/portage/package.provided any combination of these: > > > > x11-wm/enlightenment-:0.17/::bar > > > > =x11-wm/enlightenment-:0.17 > > > > x11-wm/enlightenment- > > > > None of which can stop

Re: [gentoo-user] package.provided syntax for overlay

On Sunday 19 Feb 2017 11:45:27 Johannes Rosenberger wrote: > On 19.02.2017 11:20, Mick wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Given sddm is not working for my setup, as per bug #608690, I thought of > > trying entrance from the bar overlay. It wants to pull in enlightenment, > > which I have already

Re: [gentoo-user] How to dump kde gracefully in favor of lxde

On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 11:17:34 +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > But the worse thing in both KDE and Gnome is the dbus, the opaque > program that is easily misused against the user. And figuring out about > it, and getting rid of it, that was also hard. How can it be opague when it is open source. >

[gentoo-user] Re: entrance login fails

On Sunday 19 Feb 2017 12:03:33 Mick wrote: > I am guessing there is something not being set in the /etc/pam.d/entrance > file which was installed with entrance. I am getting a wrong credentials > error, when both my username and passwd are entered correctly. > > This is the file installed by

Re: [gentoo-user] How to keep my system from (nearly) freezing?

On 170219-14:11+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: ... > Try Ctrl+Alt+Fx > where x is one of F1 ... F6 > and then issue: > # killa chromium # killall in this case likely (never installed any of Schmoog's browsers): # killall chromium -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr

Re: [gentoo-user] How to keep my system from (nearly) freezing?

On 19.02.2017 14:41, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Helmut Jarausch [17-02-19 14:04]: >> Hi, >> >> sometime I have some memory hungry ebuilds in the background, when I >> start (e.g.) Chromium which needs very much memory if you have a lot of >> open tabs. >> >> In that case

Re: [gentoo-user] package.provided syntax for overlay

On 19.02.2017 11:20, Mick wrote: > Hi All, > > Given sddm is not working for my setup, as per bug #608690, I thought of > trying entrance from the bar overlay. It wants to pull in enlightenment, > which I have already installed from the main tree and would like to keep it > as > such: > > #

Re: [gentoo-user] Pale Moon Air-Gapped portage EAPI 6 Install WAS: [Logging] SSL with PM

It still looks awkward directory names like below: On 170111-06:50+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 161223-17:58+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > On 161223-05:38+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: ... > ... > > > > The git object pack sources, guess where they are by looking up: > > > > # du -hs

Re: [gentoo-user] How to dump kde gracefully in favor of lxde

On 170219-08:45+, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 18 Feb 2017 22:05:01 Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 04:57:52PM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote > > > > > Any advice about slick ways of getting fully updated but dumping kde > > > on the way. > > > > *IMPORTANT* KDE is obscene about

[gentoo-user] entrance login fails

I am guessing there is something not being set in the /etc/pam.d/entrance file which was installed with entrance. I am getting a wrong credentials error, when both my username and passwd are entered correctly. This is the file installed by entrance: $ cat /etc/pam.d/entrance #%PAM-1.0 auth

Re: [gentoo-user] package.provided syntax for overlay

On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 11:17:11 +, Mick wrote: > > Another option is to copy/symlink the specific package you want from > > the bar overlay to your local overlay and do not include the bar > > overlay in repos.conf. > > Sorry for being dense. Do you mean first add the overlay with 'layman >

Re: [gentoo-user] How to dump kde gracefully in favor of lxde

On 170219-12:31+, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 11:17:34 +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: Hi, Neil, a fellow hexagenarian like me! > > But the worse thing in both KDE and Gnome is the dbus, the opaque > > program that is easily misused against the user. And figuring out about > > it,

Re: [gentoo-user] How to keep my system from (nearly) freezing?

On 170219-13:53+0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > sometime I have some memory hungry ebuilds in the background, when I Ebuilds are just text files, they don't run in the background... > start (e.g.) Chromium which needs very much memory if you have a lot of > open tabs. ( Chromium is

Re: [gentoo-user] How to keep my system from (nearly) freezing?

On Sunday 19 Feb 2017 13:53:49 Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > sometime I have some memory hungry ebuilds in the background, when I > start (e.g.) Chromium which needs very much memory if you have a lot of > open tabs. > > In that case my system nearly freezes. I cannot even kill chrome. > What

Re: [gentoo-user] How to dump kde gracefully in favor of lxde

On 170219-19:41+, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 14:21:58 +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > ...[ you cut my argument here]... > > ...[ you cut my argument here]... > > ...[ you cut my argument here]... > > > KDE3 had its own IPC protocol, DCOP, that was used as the basis for > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] How to dump kde gracefully in favor of lxde

On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > Oh I meant SELinux, and pls. be the first to deny there were hooks > planted in Linux by Linus via the LSM (the Linux Security Module, for > the general audience), as per: > > Developer Raps Linux Security >

[gentoo-user] How to get Emacs key bindings in Firefox?

I _used_ to have emacs key-bindings in Firefox, but for some reason that stopped working and now I have Windows key bindings. It _may_ have happened when I switched from XFCE to Openbox. After Googling a while, I've tried: $ dconf write /org/gnome/desktop/interface/gtk-key-theme "'Emacs'" $

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Surface Pro 3?

On 30/01/17 08:24 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > I acquired (on the cheap) a used Surface Pro 3 with the keyboard cover > off of a relative who wasn't using it (they said the screen was too small.) > > I am considering putting Gentoo (or attempting to) and am wondering if > anyone has had success. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Bluefish colours

On Sunday 19 Feb 2017 15:25:30 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday 16 Feb 2017 15:42:08 I wrote: > > Has anyone here any experience of Bluefish? I want to use it in website > > development but I can't. Its menus use a background of very pale grey and > > a text colour of white. Even with a

Re: [gentoo-user] Bluefish colours

On Thursday 16 Feb 2017 15:42:08 I wrote: > Has anyone here any experience of Bluefish? I want to use it in website > development but I can't. Its menus use a background of very pale grey and > a text colour of white. Even with a magnifying glass I can't make out > most of what it's showing me. >

Re: [gentoo-user] svn-server setup (need it for gnunet in Air-Gap install)

It may not be necessary to set up a subversion server, I now believe. See below to what caused confusion here... On 170219-12:56+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: ... > https://gnunet.org/node/2634 ... > But I was wondering if anybody knows of a more Gentoo-specific > tutorial/tip/thread/topic/other

[gentoo-user] Re: How to get Emacs key bindings in Firefox?

On 2017-02-19, Grant Edwards wrote: > I _used_ to have emacs key-bindings in Firefox, but for some reason > that stopped working and now I have Windows key bindings. It _may_ > have happened when I switched from XFCE to Openbox. > > After Googling a while, I've tried:

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/profile vs. /etc/portage/make.profile

On 20.02.2017 03:37, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > I am a little confused... > > In search for the reason my new root has no /etc/portage/profile > but an /etc/portage/make.profile on this documemnt: > https://dev.gentoo.org/~zmedico/portage/doc/man/portage.5.html > I found this ywo lines >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge a binary package no longer in tree

On 20.02.2017 07:50, Raffaele Belardi wrote: > I'd like to try and update a package I masked long time ago due to > performance problems. Upstream the problem does not seem completely > addressed and solved so I'd like to be able to go back to the old > version just in case. But the old version is

[gentoo-user] /etc/portage/profile vs. /etc/portage/make.profile

Hi, I am a little confused... In search for the reason my new root has no /etc/portage/profile but an /etc/portage/make.profile on this documemnt: https://dev.gentoo.org/~zmedico/portage/doc/man/portage.5.html I found this ywo lines /etc/portage/make.profile/ or /etc/make.profile/

[gentoo-user] emerge a binary package no longer in tree

I'd like to try and update a package I masked long time ago due to performance problems. Upstream the problem does not seem completely addressed and solved so I'd like to be able to go back to the old version just in case. But the old version is no longer in the tree. If I quickpkg it will I be