Re: [gentoo-user] python variables
On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 9:50 AM William Kenworthy wrote: > Hi, I am still having problems with the python settings. There a lot of > articals online for python on Gentoo but they all seem to miss a simple > point: a list of what the current default should be: > > should there be nothing in a properly configured system (all handled > automaticly) > I leave everything at the defaults, unless there's something that i'm certain I want to achieve. This goes for all settings, including USE, and i usually use package.use rather than USE= in make.conf. So for me there's no specific python/ruby etc settings in make.conf, but there's still eselect, and i generally keep away from the newest and oldest. Try unsetting python settings in make.conf and run an emerge -avuUD world to see what you get. BTW, for ~arch users python:2.7 is pretty much gone. For me, I just have some gnome stuff which depends on dev-libs/gjs, which depends on dev-lang/spidermonkey:68 which depends on python:2.7.
[gentoo-user] python variables
Hi, I am still having problems with the python settings. There a lot of articals online for python on Gentoo but they all seem to miss a simple point: a list of what the current default should be: should there be nothing in a properly configured system (all handled automaticly) PYTHON_TARGETS etc listed in package.use, or should it be in make.conf - lots of variation! Should 2.7 be listed at all still? Chasing the emerge breakage trying to get this right is getting old fast :( e.g., I am using the following in make.conf for a system that only needs python 3.8 (with 3.7 just in case I need it) ... for other systems should I specify what I think is rrequired, or leave blank? USE_PYTHON="3.8" PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_8 python3_7" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_8" BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems
On Fri, 02 Oct 2020 13:06:11 -0400, John Covici wrote: > > What about something like Vinux. It's an Ubuntu respin for visually > > impaired users, with plenty of options for screen reading and > > magnification. > > I have heard of that distro, there are some others like it as well, I > doubt it has zfs, but thanks for the thought. > I will see if the ubuntu live has what I need. It's based on Ubuntu so it may still have zfs. -- Neil Bothwick Okay, I pulled the pin. Now what? Hey, where are you going? pgpBdxM0sWJeb.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems
On Fri, 02 Oct 2020 11:47:26 -0400, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > [1 ] > On Fri, 02 Oct 2020 09:51:22 -0400, John Covici wrote: > > > OK, one problem is going to be, I need a command l ine, not a gui and > > I need speakup, so I will have to check and see if the Ubunto latest > > has that in the kernel. > > What about something like Vinux. It's an Ubuntu respin for visually > impaired users, with plenty of options for screen reading and > magnification. I have heard of that distro, there are some others like it as well, I doubt it has zfs, but thanks for the thought. I will see if the ubuntu live has what I need. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 9:23 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: >> I always use SystemRescueCD to install a new Gentoo system. Never a single >> problem with it, other than having to set up my own working conditions every >> time. >> > Personally I tend to use Ubuntu - mainly because it just gives you a > nice desktop experience and just works. I can easily fire up a full > browser, open all the xterms I want, and so on. I really don't care > about its pros/cons long-term because it is just a livecd - the > installed OS ends up the same no matter what distro you use to boot > off of. It all runs in a chroot so the only OS component that really > impacts the install is the kernel. > > But there are lots of choices. I don't really have a problem with > Gentoo having its own minimal iso, but I do encourage people to use > something more functional, simply because there are already a ton of > good livecds out there, and Gentoo doesn't really need to invent its > own. Since you only use the livecd image for an hour in the lifetime > of the entire system, it has pretty minimal impact on the overall > experience, even if it is the first thing you see. So, why not take > advantage of the polish other distros have put into theirs? > I think I used Knoppix once and it worked fine. As you say tho, about anything Linux will work. Just another option, in case someone reading this needs it. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 14:43:43 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >>> I dunno. I tested the installer thing when it was first announced >>> years ago. It failed to install. It kept getting hung somewhere but >>> with no output that I could find, I didn't know what was wrong or >>> what to fix. >> Isn't that how automated installers are supposed to work? >> >> ;) > Only after they've reformatted your disk :( > > You guys are getting to funny. There's nothing like a installer deciding you didn't partition your drives right and fixing it without asking. :/ Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 14:43:43 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > I dunno. I tested the installer thing when it was first announced > > years ago. It failed to install. It kept getting hung somewhere but > > with no output that I could find, I didn't know what was wrong or > > what to fix. > > Isn't that how automated installers are supposed to work? > > ;) Only after they've reformatted your disk :( -- Neil Bothwick Favorite Windoze game: Guess what this icon does? pgpVFuyewSOnB.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?
On Fri, 02 Oct 2020 11:25:54 -0300, David M. Fellows wrote: > Assuming the above is an accurate transcription of the command you used. > > -update is definitely NOT the same as --update. > > -update is equivalent to -u -p -d -a -t -e Nice catch :-) -- Neil Bothwick Next time you wave at me, use more than one finger, please. pgp3myaYQhoO3.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems
On Fri, 02 Oct 2020 09:51:22 -0400, John Covici wrote: > OK, one problem is going to be, I need a command l ine, not a gui and > I need speakup, so I will have to check and see if the Ubunto latest > has that in the kernel. What about something like Vinux. It's an Ubuntu respin for visually impaired users, with plenty of options for screen reading and magnification. -- Neil Bothwick LISP: Lots of Infuriating & Silly Parentheses pgpIlqI967hW_.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 9:51 AM John Covici wrote: > > > OK, one problem is going to be, I need a command l ine, not a gui and > I need speakup, so I will have to check and see if the Ubunto latest > has that in the kernel. > Yeah, I get that, though I think the ubuntu livecd has a text console option - for servers it is the sort of thing people will want. -- Rich
[gentoo-user] Re: installation problems
On 2020-10-02, Dale wrote: > I dunno. I tested the installer thing when it was first announced > years ago. It failed to install. It kept getting hung somewhere but > with no output that I could find, I didn't know what was wrong or > what to fix. Isn't that how automated installers are supposed to work? ;)
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?
>On 2020-10-02 10:45, n952162 wrote: >> Have I successfully updated my system? >> >> I ran this command: >> >> emerge \ >> -v \ >> --verbose-conflicts \ >> --deep \ >> -update \ >> --changed-use \ >> --keep-going \ >> --with-bdeps=y \ >> --changed-deps \ >> --backtrack=100 \ >> @world >> >> and got tons of stuff that looks like spurious debugging/tracing info Probably not. And a good thing too. Assuming the above is an accurate transcription of the command you used. -update is definitely NOT the same as --update. -update is equivalent to -u -p -d -a -t -e so --update --pretend --debug --ask --tree --empty-tree --debug, --tree produce voluminous output, --empty-tree says rebuild everything. Hope this helps. DaveF
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems
On Fri, 02 Oct 2020 09:38:54 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 9:32 AM John Covici wrote: > > > > Is there anything more recent I c an use as a rescue disk? I have > > version 5.1 but after that, not sure what they did, but could not even > > get a decent root prompt and I do need zfs, otherwise there are many > > options. > > > > Don't want to beat a dead horse, but zfs is also one of the reasons I > use the ubuntu cds. It is easy to get zfs running on an ubuntu > livecd. I forget if it is preinstalled, but I'm pretty sure it is all > packaged so it is basically a 1-2 liner to add it. I haven't looked > at it recently but the Funtoo docs suggest doing the same which is > where I got the tip. > > At the time systemrescuecd didn't support zfs out of copyright > concerns. Perhaps that has changed. People have strong feelings on > zfs. I get them, though it is 100% FOSS (even if the licensing was > engineered to cause GPL issues). IMO the biggest technical issue with > using it on linux is that it basically pulls in a bunch of other BSD > logic around stuff like caching so it isn't super-clean from a kernel > perspective. However, that is also part of why it is so stable - they > basically containerized the thing so that they didn't have a bazillion > regressions, and I think they've been slowly working on getting rid of > the middle layers. > OK, one problem is going to be, I need a command l ine, not a gui and I need speakup, so I will have to check and see if the Ubunto latest has that in the kernel. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 9:32 AM John Covici wrote: > > Is there anything more recent I c an use as a rescue disk? I have > version 5.1 but after that, not sure what they did, but could not even > get a decent root prompt and I do need zfs, otherwise there are many > options. > Don't want to beat a dead horse, but zfs is also one of the reasons I use the ubuntu cds. It is easy to get zfs running on an ubuntu livecd. I forget if it is preinstalled, but I'm pretty sure it is all packaged so it is basically a 1-2 liner to add it. I haven't looked at it recently but the Funtoo docs suggest doing the same which is where I got the tip. At the time systemrescuecd didn't support zfs out of copyright concerns. Perhaps that has changed. People have strong feelings on zfs. I get them, though it is 100% FOSS (even if the licensing was engineered to cause GPL issues). IMO the biggest technical issue with using it on linux is that it basically pulls in a bunch of other BSD logic around stuff like caching so it isn't super-clean from a kernel perspective. However, that is also part of why it is so stable - they basically containerized the thing so that they didn't have a bazillion regressions, and I think they've been slowly working on getting rid of the middle layers. -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 9:23 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I always use SystemRescueCD to install a new Gentoo system. Never a single > problem with it, other than having to set up my own working conditions every > time. > Personally I tend to use Ubuntu - mainly because it just gives you a nice desktop experience and just works. I can easily fire up a full browser, open all the xterms I want, and so on. I really don't care about its pros/cons long-term because it is just a livecd - the installed OS ends up the same no matter what distro you use to boot off of. It all runs in a chroot so the only OS component that really impacts the install is the kernel. But there are lots of choices. I don't really have a problem with Gentoo having its own minimal iso, but I do encourage people to use something more functional, simply because there are already a ton of good livecds out there, and Gentoo doesn't really need to invent its own. Since you only use the livecd image for an hour in the lifetime of the entire system, it has pretty minimal impact on the overall experience, even if it is the first thing you see. So, why not take advantage of the polish other distros have put into theirs? -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems
On Fri, 02 Oct 2020 09:23:57 -0400, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > (Kmail seems to have stopped quoting the message I'm replying to.) > > I always use SystemRescueCD to install a new Gentoo system. Never a single > problem with it, other than having to set up my own working conditions every > time. > > I don't know what version it is, but it must have been about the last they > issued before switching to Arch. Is there anything more recent I c an use as a rescue disk? I have version 5.1 but after that, not sure what they did, but could not even get a decent root prompt and I do need zfs, otherwise there are many options. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 8:44 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 08:37:43 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > I was talking about the Gentoo installer. I'm thinking the OP is > > > using the installer to install Gentoo. > > > > Nowhere in his post does he say that. It explicitly refers to the > > minimal CD. > > > > That said, the email you replied to (which wasn't from the poster) had > > language more suggestive of some kind of installer. > > My bad, I meant Gentoo installation disc, not installer disc. The > auto-completion in my wetware is not what it used to be :( > No worries - it was more a case of whisper-down-the-lane, with each reply slightly changing the context. -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2020-10-02, Dale wrote: > >> I was talking about the Gentoo installer. > Huh. Didn't know there was one. Is this it? > > https://blogs.gentoo.org/chrisadr/2018/05/02/installer-a-basic-gentoo-system-anyone-can-install/ > > > > I dunno. I tested the installer thing when it was first announced years ago. It failed to install. It kept getting hung somewhere but with no output that I could find, I didn't know what was wrong or what to fix. I ditched it into the trash and went back to the trusty manual install. I think the OP has vision problems. I guess a installer of some sort would be easier in that case, provided it doesn't error out with no output. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems
(Kmail seems to have stopped quoting the message I'm replying to.) I always use SystemRescueCD to install a new Gentoo system. Never a single problem with it, other than having to set up my own working conditions every time. I don't know what version it is, but it must have been about the last they issued before switching to Arch. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems
On Fri, 02 Oct 2020 08:51:52 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > I've never used a gentoo-live-cd and the reason I use the gentoo-minimal > -cd is it's possible to bring speakup up on boot and for those few of us > who can't see the screen and haven't got sighted help nearby, that makes > all manner of independent computer operations possible. > > On Fri, 2 Oct 2020, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 08:09:32 > > From: Rich Freeman > > Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems > > > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 4:53 AM Dale wrote: > > > > > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > > >> I haven't used the Gentoo installer discs for years, but you should be > > >> able to create your own mount points. > > > > > > Is it still supported? I thought it was abandoned again a good while > > > back. That thing has come and gone so many times, I can't keep up with > > > when it is active or isn't. > > > > > > > The minimal CD, or creating mountpoints? The former has always > > existed, and the latter has existed since the 70s. > > > > And please add non-html quotes - I really don't want to have to edit > > replies... > > > > As far as the minimal CD goes, you an just create mountpoints, but > > really I'm not sure why anybody uses it in the first place. I just > > use a liveCD from ubuntu or whatever - there are a bazillion liveCDs > > (including Gentoo-based ones), and just about all of them are more > > useful than the Gentoo minimal iso. I'm not sure why we even produce > > one, except maybe for the same reasons everybody sets the default > > editor to nano. :) > > > > I have used the minimal cd, but I would think any gentoo cd would have the speakup module in it, you can always check by downloading the iso, getting to the /lib/modules directory -- which might involve mounting a squashfs file system -- and checking if the speakup module is there. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com
[gentoo-user] Re: installation problems
On 2020-10-02, Dale wrote: > I was talking about the Gentoo installer. Huh. Didn't know there was one. Is this it? https://blogs.gentoo.org/chrisadr/2018/05/02/installer-a-basic-gentoo-system-anyone-can-install/
[gentoo-user] Re: installation problems
On 2020-10-02, Rich Freeman wrote: > As far as the minimal CD goes, you an just create mountpoints, but > really I'm not sure why anybody uses it in the first place. I usually use it. When I've tried to use systemrescuecd, I usually ran into issues: you couldn't follow the handbook step-by-step and expect it to work (IIRC, something to do with chroot?). There were fairly simple work-arounds, but it took time to figure out what was wrong and what to do about it. -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems
I've never used a gentoo-live-cd and the reason I use the gentoo-minimal -cd is it's possible to bring speakup up on boot and for those few of us who can't see the screen and haven't got sighted help nearby, that makes all manner of independent computer operations possible. On Fri, 2 Oct 2020, Rich Freeman wrote: > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 08:09:32 > From: Rich Freeman > Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 4:53 AM Dale wrote: > > > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > >> I haven't used the Gentoo installer discs for years, but you should be > >> able to create your own mount points. > > > > Is it still supported? I thought it was abandoned again a good while back. > > That thing has come and gone so many times, I can't keep up with when it > > is active or isn't. > > > > The minimal CD, or creating mountpoints? The former has always > existed, and the latter has existed since the 70s. > > And please add non-html quotes - I really don't want to have to edit > replies... > > As far as the minimal CD goes, you an just create mountpoints, but > really I'm not sure why anybody uses it in the first place. I just > use a liveCD from ubuntu or whatever - there are a bazillion liveCDs > (including Gentoo-based ones), and just about all of them are more > useful than the Gentoo minimal iso. I'm not sure why we even produce > one, except maybe for the same reasons everybody sets the default > editor to nano. :) > > --
Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 08:37:43 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > I was talking about the Gentoo installer. I'm thinking the OP is > > using the installer to install Gentoo. > > Nowhere in his post does he say that. It explicitly refers to the > minimal CD. > > That said, the email you replied to (which wasn't from the poster) had > language more suggestive of some kind of installer. My bad, I meant Gentoo installation disc, not installer disc. The auto-completion in my wetware is not what it used to be :( -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 004: Erroneous error - Nothing is wrong pgp7AhZiJbk8M.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 8:30 AM Dale wrote: > > I was talking about the Gentoo installer. I'm thinking the OP is using > the installer to install Gentoo. Nowhere in his post does he say that. It explicitly refers to the minimal CD. That said, the email you replied to (which wasn't from the poster) had language more suggestive of some kind of installer. In any case, I have no idea if anybody has a working installer at this moment. > I manually requested > plain text for this one but to be honest, I'm not holding my breath on > it listening. Well, it worked. Much appreciated. Sorry it isn't behaving for you... :) -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 4:53 AM Dale wrote: >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >>> I haven't used the Gentoo installer discs for years, but you should be >>> able to create your own mount points. >> Is it still supported? I thought it was abandoned again a good while back. >> That thing has come and gone so many times, I can't keep up with when it is >> active or isn't. >> > The minimal CD, or creating mountpoints? The former has always > existed, and the latter has existed since the 70s. > > And please add non-html quotes - I really don't want to have to edit > replies... > > As far as the minimal CD goes, you an just create mountpoints, but > really I'm not sure why anybody uses it in the first place. I just > use a liveCD from ubuntu or whatever - there are a bazillion liveCDs > (including Gentoo-based ones), and just about all of them are more > useful than the Gentoo minimal iso. I'm not sure why we even produce > one, except maybe for the same reasons everybody sets the default > editor to nano. :) > I was talking about the Gentoo installer. I'm thinking the OP is using the installer to install Gentoo. I'm not sure of it but it's possible. I noticed in one post that the OP seems to be using a text to speech tool which may be the reason they are using a installer. It may be easier that way. Seamonkey does its own thing with email replies. It seems to be based on what others do and ignores what I've told it. I manually requested plain text for this one but to be honest, I'm not holding my breath on it listening. All emails going to gentoo.org or kde.org are supposed to be plain text only. It's been set that way for many years now and it worked until a good while back. I've done my part and told it. I can't fix it. Maybe it's a feature. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 4:53 AM Dale wrote: > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> I haven't used the Gentoo installer discs for years, but you should be >> able to create your own mount points. > > Is it still supported? I thought it was abandoned again a good while back. > That thing has come and gone so many times, I can't keep up with when it is > active or isn't. > The minimal CD, or creating mountpoints? The former has always existed, and the latter has existed since the 70s. And please add non-html quotes - I really don't want to have to edit replies... As far as the minimal CD goes, you an just create mountpoints, but really I'm not sure why anybody uses it in the first place. I just use a liveCD from ubuntu or whatever - there are a bazillion liveCDs (including Gentoo-based ones), and just about all of them are more useful than the Gentoo minimal iso. I'm not sure why we even produce one, except maybe for the same reasons everybody sets the default editor to nano. :) -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 4:45 AM n952162 wrote: > > Have I successfully updated my system? > ... > and these snippets: > I wrote a lengthy reply explaining all of your issues. Here is a snippet: ...hope that helps. In the future, please attach your command line and full output. Did that answer your question? Seriously, though, aside from complete output (if it is long it probably will compress nicely), if you are getting errors and can't proceed try reducing the scope of the build (such as just @system). It isn't actually clear if emerge was able to resolve the block or not from the trimmed output. Adding verbose can be helpful for those troubleshooting, but not if it just causes you to not post the output in the first place... -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] install problems
/var/tmp/sys-libs/timezone-data is where the failed stuff was left. Thanks. At least I learned how to use the rubber end on gentoo's pencil. On Fri, 2 Oct 2020, Michael wrote: > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 07:31:57 > From: Michael > Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] install problems > > Hi Jude, > > On Friday, 2 October 2020 12:21:06 BST Jude DaShiell wrote: > > I made another mistake and need to find the exit. > > I did emerge sys-libs/timezone-data which downloaded that package and > > dependencies and then errored out badly when trying to build the packages. > > The native in COMMON_FLAGS in /etc/portage/make.conf was not recognized by > > what I downloaded and that emanated several more errors. > > Will it be possible to wipe out the last emerge effects on the system? > > If an emerge did not complete successfully and came up with an error, then it > would not have installed anything on your system. Whatever emerge built may > have been left under /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/timezone-data, unless 'fail- > clean' is not specified in your FEATURES. > > emerge --info | grep fail-clean > > will show if it is set or not. --
Re: [gentoo-user] install problems
On Friday, 2 October 2020 12:45:12 BST Jude DaShiell wrote: > Emerge --info|grep fail-clean is not set. Good, then all the files which were built and any errors encountered would still be left in the temporary work directory for this package under /var/tmp. The actual error printed by portage will point toward what went wrong and with a bit of research a solution can be found. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] install problems
Emerge --info|grep fail-clean is not set. On Fri, 2 Oct 2020, Michael wrote: > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 07:31:57 > From: Michael > Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] install problems > > Hi Jude, > > On Friday, 2 October 2020 12:21:06 BST Jude DaShiell wrote: > > I made another mistake and need to find the exit. > > I did emerge sys-libs/timezone-data which downloaded that package and > > dependencies and then errored out badly when trying to build the packages. > > The native in COMMON_FLAGS in /etc/portage/make.conf was not recognized by > > what I downloaded and that emanated several more errors. > > Will it be possible to wipe out the last emerge effects on the system? > > If an emerge did not complete successfully and came up with an error, then it > would not have installed anything on your system. Whatever emerge built may > have been left under /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/timezone-data, unless 'fail- > clean' is not specified in your FEATURES. > > emerge --info | grep fail-clean > > will show if it is set or not. --
Re: [gentoo-user] install problems
Hi Jude, On Friday, 2 October 2020 12:21:06 BST Jude DaShiell wrote: > I made another mistake and need to find the exit. > I did emerge sys-libs/timezone-data which downloaded that package and > dependencies and then errored out badly when trying to build the packages. > The native in COMMON_FLAGS in /etc/portage/make.conf was not recognized by > what I downloaded and that emanated several more errors. > Will it be possible to wipe out the last emerge effects on the system? If an emerge did not complete successfully and came up with an error, then it would not have installed anything on your system. Whatever emerge built may have been left under /var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/timezone-data, unless 'fail- clean' is not specified in your FEATURES. emerge --info | grep fail-clean will show if it is set or not. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] install problems
I made another mistake and need to find the exit. I did emerge sys-libs/timezone-data which downloaded that package and dependencies and then errored out badly when trying to build the packages. The native in COMMON_FLAGS in /etc/portage/make.conf was not recognized by what I downloaded and that emanated several more errors. Will it be possible to wipe out the last emerge effects on the system? --
Re: [gentoo-user] Environment variables on package granularity
On Fri, 02 Oct 2020 05:14:01 -0400, Daniel Armbruster wrote: > > [1 ] > Hi gentoo-user, > > is there a way to set environment variables on package/ebuild granularity? I'm > aware, that plenty of portage related environment variables are configurable > by > means of the package.env feature > (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/package.env). However, I didn't > find > a way to set additional environment variables. > > The actual reason, why I'm asking is the following: When compiling > app-emulation/qemu, package installation fails when calling the preprocessor. > Though, I'm able to manually solve the issue when setting the CPP environment > variable: > > # export CPP="gcc -E" > > before running emerge. Instead of running the command again and again i.e. > before every reinstallation of app-emulation/qemu, I'd like to set this > environment variable for the package once (in e.g. a configuration file) and > it's done for every future reinstallation. You can use the env feature to set any environment variable you want, they don't have to be portage related. You can drill down to the category/package quite nicely. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] re: install problems
I used the speakup clipboard to copy out of the handbook that time.On Fri, 2 Oct 2020, Arve Barsnes wrote: > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 06:37:25 > From: Arve Barsnes > Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > To: Gentoo > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] re: install problems > > On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 at 12:35, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > > The instructions read: > > #emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data > > That as I wrote earlier failed. so I try: > > #emerge --config sys-libs-timezone-data > > and get no packages found. > > The instructions read > #emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data > but your earlier e-mail leads me to think that you wrote > #emerge --config sys/libs/timezone-data > > Regards, > Arve > > --
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?
On Fri, 02 Oct 2020 05:25:29 -0400, n952162 wrote: > > On 2020-10-02 10:45, n952162 wrote: > > Have I successfully updated my system? > > > > I ran this command: > > > > emerge \ > > -v \ > > --verbose-conflicts \ > > --deep \ > > -update \ > > --changed-use \ > > --keep-going \ > > --with-bdeps=y \ > > --changed-deps \ > > --backtrack=100 \ > > @world > > > > and got tons of stuff that looks like spurious debugging/tracing info > > > > parent: (dev-libs/glib-2.64.5:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for > > merge) > > child: (virtual/libelf-3:0/1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for > > merge) (runtime_slot_op) > > parent: (dev-libs/glib-2.64.5:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for > > merge) > > child: (virtual/libelf-3:0/1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for > > merge) (runtime_slot_op) > > > > and these snippets: > > > > Total: 869 packages (332 upgrades, 30 new, 10 in new slots, 497 > > reinstalls), Size of downloads: 2769158 KiB > > Conflict: 1 block > > forced reinstall atoms: > > > > > > slot operator dependencies: > > (/, sys-libs/ncurses:0) > > > > > > > > > > forced rebuilds: > > > > [EOF] > > > > > > When I strip out all the parent/child traces (they make it a 6MB file!) > with this: > > sed -e '/^\s*parent: (/d' -e '/^\s*child: (/d' system-world.201002 > > I get this at the end of my emerge: > > > Total: 869 packages (332 upgrades, 30 new, 10 in new slots, 497 > reinstalls), Size of downloads: 2769158 KiB > Conflict: 1 block > forced reinstall atoms: > > > slot operator dependencies: > (/, sys-libs/ncurses:0) > (/, sys-libs/readline:0) > (/, dev-lang/perl:0) > (/, dev-libs/libxml2:2) > (/, dev-lang/python-exec:2) > (/, sys-libs/db:5.3) > (/, sys-libs/gdbm:0) > (/, x11-libs/libX11:0) > (/, dev-libs/libgcrypt:0) > (/, dev-libs/openssl:0) > (/, dev-libs/expat:0) > (/, x11-libs/libxshmfence:0) > (/, x11-libs/libXdamage:0) > (/, x11-libs/libXext:0) > (/, x11-libs/libXxf86vm:0) > (/, x11-libs/libxcb:0) > (/, x11-libs/libXfixes:0) > (/, app-arch/zstd:0) > (/, sys-devel/llvm:10) > (/, sys-libs/zlib:0) > (/, dev-libs/libffi:0) > (/, app-arch/libarchive:0) > (/, dev-libs/jsoncpp:0) > (/, dev-libs/libuv:0) > (/, x11-libs/libpciaccess:0) > (/, x11-base/xorg-server:0) > (/, dev-libs/libinput:0) > (/, dev-libs/apr:1) > (/, dev-libs/apr-util:1) > (/, media-libs/libpng:0) > (/, media-libs/dav1d:0) > (/, media-libs/libaom:0) > (/, media-libs/harfbuzz:0) > (/, dev-libs/icu:0) > (/, dev-libs/libevent:0) > (/, media-libs/libvpx:0) > (/, media-libs/libwebp:0) > (/, x11-libs/cairo:0) > (/, media-gfx/graphite2:0) > (/, dev-libs/gobject-introspection:0) > (/, media-libs/freetype:2) > (/, media-libs/fontconfig:1.0) > (/, sys-libs/binutils-libs:0) > (/, app-crypt/libb2:0) > (/, app-crypt/gpgme:1) > (/, dev-libs/libassuan:0) > (/, dev-libs/libgpg-error:0) > (/, net-libs/gnutls:0) > (/, dev-libs/libtasn1:0) > (/, dev-libs/libunistring:0) > (/, dev-libs/nettle:0) > (/, dev-libs/gmp:0) > (/, net-dns/libidn2:0) > (/, app-arch/bzip2:0) > (/, dev-libs/json-c:0) > (/, app-crypt/argon2:0) > (/, dev-libs/mpfr:0) > (/, dev-python/cffi:0) > (/, dev-python/ply:0) > (/, sys-libs/efivar:0) > (/, media-libs/gd:2) > (/, dev-db/postgresql:12) > (/, sci-libs/proj:0) > (/, dev-lang/lua:0) > (/, dev-db/postgresql:10) > (/, dev-db/postgresql:11) > (/, sci-libs/libgeotiff:0) > (/, dev-libs/libnl:3) > (/, app-text/poppler:0) > (/, app-text/qpdf:0) > (/, media-libs/jbig2dec:0) > (/, media-libs/openjpeg:2) > (/, net-dns/libidn:0) > (/, dev-libs/libxslt:0) > (/, app-arch/lz4:0) > (/, media-libs/opus:0) > (/, media-video/ffmpeg:0) > (/, app-text/hunspell:0) > (/, dev-qt/qtcore:5) > (/, net-libs/libtirpc:0) > (/, sys-apps/keyutils:0) > (/, dev-libs/liblinear:0) > (/, media-libs/libdvdread:0) > (/, media-libs/libdvbpsi:0) > (/, media-libs/libdvdnav:0) > (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-cursor:0) > (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-image:0) > (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-keysyms:0) > (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-renderutil:0) > (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-wm:0) > (/, x11-libs/xcb-util:0) > (/, x11-base/xcb-proto:0) > (/, media-libs/flac:0) > (/, media-libs/libogg:0) > (/, media-libs/libvorbis:0) > (/, dev-scheme/guile:12) > (/, dev-libs/boehm-gc:0) > (/, dev-libs/libltdl:0) > (/, media-libs/tiff:0) > (/, media-gfx/mypaint-brushes:2.0) > (/, media-libs/libmypaint:0) > (/, net-libs/libproxy:0) > (/, media-gfx/exiv2:0) > (/, dev-db/lmdb:0) > (/, dev-libs/libutf8proc:0) > (/, dev-libs/libpcre2:0) > (/, dev-libs/double-conversion:0) > (/, app-arch/xz-utils:0) > (/, sys-apps/util-linux:0) > (/, dev-db/sqlite:3) > (/, gnome-extra/libgsf:0) > (/, x11-libs/pango:0) > (/,
Re: [gentoo-user] re: install problems
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 at 12:35, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > The instructions read: > #emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data > That as I wrote earlier failed. so I try: > #emerge --config sys-libs-timezone-data > and get no packages found. The instructions read #emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data but your earlier e-mail leads me to think that you wrote #emerge --config sys/libs/timezone-data Regards, Arve
Re: [gentoo-user] re: install problems
The instructions read: #emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data That as I wrote earlier failed. so I try: #emerge --config sys-libs-timezone-data and get no packages found. On Fri, 2 Oct 2020, Arve Barsnes wrote: > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 04:35:12 > From: Arve Barsnes > Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > To: Gentoo > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] re: install problems > > On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 at 10:26, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > !'sys/libs/timezone-data ' is not a valid package atom. > > ! please check ebuild (5) for full details. > > ! did you specify a version but forget to prefix with '='?) > > You seem to have used a slash in the package-category there, sys/libs > vs. sys-libs in the instructions. If you change that it should work > for you. > > Regards, > Arve > > --
Re: [gentoo-user] Environment variables on package granularity
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 11:14:01 +0200, Daniel Armbruster wrote: > is there a way to set environment variables on package/ebuild > granularity? I'm aware, that plenty of portage related environment > variables are configurable by means of the package.env feature > (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/package.env). However, I > didn't find a way to set additional environment variables. You can set these in package.env, see https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/package.env -- Neil Bothwick Das Internet is nicht fuer gefingerclicken und giffengrabben. Ist easy droppenpacket der routers und overloaden der backbone mit der spammen und der me-tooen. Ist nicht fuer gewerken bei das dumpkopfen. Das mausklicken sichtseeren keepen das bandwit-spewin hans in das pockets muss; relaxen und watchen das cursorblinken. pgpHSwxTRM8Uz.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 10:45:32 +0200, n952162 wrote: > Have I successfully updated my system? > > I ran this command: > > emerge \ > -v \ > --verbose-conflicts \ > --deep \ > -update \ > --changed-use \ > --keep-going \ > --with-bdeps=y \ > --changed-deps \ > --backtrack=100 \ > @world > > and got tons of stuff that looks like spurious debugging/tracing info > > parent: (dev-libs/glib-2.64.5:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for > merge) > child: (virtual/libelf-3:0/1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for > merge) (runtime_slot_op) > parent: (dev-libs/glib-2.64.5:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for > merge) > child: (virtual/libelf-3:0/1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for > merge) (runtime_slot_op) > > and these snippets: > > Total: 869 packages (332 upgrades, 30 new, 10 in new slots, 497 > reinstalls), Size of downloads: 2769158 KiB > Conflict: 1 block > forced reinstall atoms: Did the emerge complete without error? The answer that question is the same as the answer to yours. It looks like you have gone a long time without updating, so if you hit problems, and you do have one block there, a simple "emerge --ask @system" /may/ be a better place to start. I'd also drop -v from the invocation as it is the main cause of your "spurious debugging/tracing info". emerge is verbose enough on its own and will give you plenty of feedback if something isn't quite right, -v just buries the important information in noise. -- Neil Bothwick Time is an illusion but never so much as when you're using a modem. pgpnX1vyMiMWq.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?
On 2020-10-02 10:45, n952162 wrote: Have I successfully updated my system? I ran this command: emerge \ -v \ --verbose-conflicts \ --deep \ -update \ --changed-use \ --keep-going \ --with-bdeps=y \ --changed-deps \ --backtrack=100 \ @world and got tons of stuff that looks like spurious debugging/tracing info parent: (dev-libs/glib-2.64.5:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) child: (virtual/libelf-3:0/1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) (runtime_slot_op) parent: (dev-libs/glib-2.64.5:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) child: (virtual/libelf-3:0/1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) (runtime_slot_op) and these snippets: Total: 869 packages (332 upgrades, 30 new, 10 in new slots, 497 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 2769158 KiB Conflict: 1 block forced reinstall atoms: slot operator dependencies: (/, sys-libs/ncurses:0) forced rebuilds: [EOF] When I strip out all the parent/child traces (they make it a 6MB file!) with this: sed -e '/^\s*parent: (/d' -e '/^\s*child: (/d' system-world.201002 I get this at the end of my emerge: Total: 869 packages (332 upgrades, 30 new, 10 in new slots, 497 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 2769158 KiB Conflict: 1 block forced reinstall atoms: slot operator dependencies: (/, sys-libs/ncurses:0) (/, sys-libs/readline:0) (/, dev-lang/perl:0) (/, dev-libs/libxml2:2) (/, dev-lang/python-exec:2) (/, sys-libs/db:5.3) (/, sys-libs/gdbm:0) (/, x11-libs/libX11:0) (/, dev-libs/libgcrypt:0) (/, dev-libs/openssl:0) (/, dev-libs/expat:0) (/, x11-libs/libxshmfence:0) (/, x11-libs/libXdamage:0) (/, x11-libs/libXext:0) (/, x11-libs/libXxf86vm:0) (/, x11-libs/libxcb:0) (/, x11-libs/libXfixes:0) (/, app-arch/zstd:0) (/, sys-devel/llvm:10) (/, sys-libs/zlib:0) (/, dev-libs/libffi:0) (/, app-arch/libarchive:0) (/, dev-libs/jsoncpp:0) (/, dev-libs/libuv:0) (/, x11-libs/libpciaccess:0) (/, x11-base/xorg-server:0) (/, dev-libs/libinput:0) (/, dev-libs/apr:1) (/, dev-libs/apr-util:1) (/, media-libs/libpng:0) (/, media-libs/dav1d:0) (/, media-libs/libaom:0) (/, media-libs/harfbuzz:0) (/, dev-libs/icu:0) (/, dev-libs/libevent:0) (/, media-libs/libvpx:0) (/, media-libs/libwebp:0) (/, x11-libs/cairo:0) (/, media-gfx/graphite2:0) (/, dev-libs/gobject-introspection:0) (/, media-libs/freetype:2) (/, media-libs/fontconfig:1.0) (/, sys-libs/binutils-libs:0) (/, app-crypt/libb2:0) (/, app-crypt/gpgme:1) (/, dev-libs/libassuan:0) (/, dev-libs/libgpg-error:0) (/, net-libs/gnutls:0) (/, dev-libs/libtasn1:0) (/, dev-libs/libunistring:0) (/, dev-libs/nettle:0) (/, dev-libs/gmp:0) (/, net-dns/libidn2:0) (/, app-arch/bzip2:0) (/, dev-libs/json-c:0) (/, app-crypt/argon2:0) (/, dev-libs/mpfr:0) (/, dev-python/cffi:0) (/, dev-python/ply:0) (/, sys-libs/efivar:0) (/, media-libs/gd:2) (/, dev-db/postgresql:12) (/, sci-libs/proj:0) (/, dev-lang/lua:0) (/, dev-db/postgresql:10) (/, dev-db/postgresql:11) (/, sci-libs/libgeotiff:0) (/, dev-libs/libnl:3) (/, app-text/poppler:0) (/, app-text/qpdf:0) (/, media-libs/jbig2dec:0) (/, media-libs/openjpeg:2) (/, net-dns/libidn:0) (/, dev-libs/libxslt:0) (/, app-arch/lz4:0) (/, media-libs/opus:0) (/, media-video/ffmpeg:0) (/, app-text/hunspell:0) (/, dev-qt/qtcore:5) (/, net-libs/libtirpc:0) (/, sys-apps/keyutils:0) (/, dev-libs/liblinear:0) (/, media-libs/libdvdread:0) (/, media-libs/libdvbpsi:0) (/, media-libs/libdvdnav:0) (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-cursor:0) (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-image:0) (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-keysyms:0) (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-renderutil:0) (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-wm:0) (/, x11-libs/xcb-util:0) (/, x11-base/xcb-proto:0) (/, media-libs/flac:0) (/, media-libs/libogg:0) (/, media-libs/libvorbis:0) (/, dev-scheme/guile:12) (/, dev-libs/boehm-gc:0) (/, dev-libs/libltdl:0) (/, media-libs/tiff:0) (/, media-gfx/mypaint-brushes:2.0) (/, media-libs/libmypaint:0) (/, net-libs/libproxy:0) (/, media-gfx/exiv2:0) (/, dev-db/lmdb:0) (/, dev-libs/libutf8proc:0) (/, dev-libs/libpcre2:0) (/, dev-libs/double-conversion:0) (/, app-arch/xz-utils:0) (/, sys-apps/util-linux:0) (/, dev-db/sqlite:3) (/, gnome-extra/libgsf:0) (/, x11-libs/pango:0) (/, app-text/libspectre:0) (/, x11-libs/libXrender:0) (/, app-text/ghostscript-gpl:0) (/, dev-libs/glib:2) (/, dev-libs/libgudev:0) (/, dev-libs/libmspack:0) (/, net-libs/libnsl:0) (/, dev-libs/mpc:0) (/, sys-apps/acl:0) (/, sys-libs/pam:0) (/, sys-apps/attr:0) (/, net-firewall/iptables:0) (/, virtual/libcrypt:0) (/, virtual/jpeg:0) (/, virtual/libudev:0) (/, virtual/libusb:1) (/, dev-libs/libgit2:0) (/, net-libs/libssh2:0) (/, net-libs/http-parser:0) (/,
[gentoo-user] Environment variables on package granularity
Hi gentoo-user, is there a way to set environment variables on package/ebuild granularity? I'm aware, that plenty of portage related environment variables are configurable by means of the package.env feature (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/package.env). However, I didn't find a way to set additional environment variables. The actual reason, why I'm asking is the following: When compiling app-emulation/qemu, package installation fails when calling the preprocessor. Though, I'm able to manually solve the issue when setting the CPP environment variable: # export CPP="gcc -E" before running emerge. Instead of running the command again and again i.e. before every reinstallation of app-emulation/qemu, I'd like to set this environment variable for the package once (in e.g. a configuration file) and it's done for every future reinstallation. Regards, Daniel signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?
n952162 wrote: > Have I successfully updated my system? > > I ran this command: > > emerge \ > -v \ > --verbose-conflicts \ > --deep \ > -update \ > --changed-use \ > --keep-going \ > --with-bdeps=y \ > --changed-deps \ > --backtrack=100 \ > @world > > and got tons of stuff that looks like spurious debugging/tracing info > > parent: (dev-libs/glib-2.64.5:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for > merge) > child: (virtual/libelf-3:0/1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for > merge) (runtime_slot_op) > parent: (dev-libs/glib-2.64.5:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for > merge) > child: (virtual/libelf-3:0/1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for > merge) (runtime_slot_op) > > and these snippets: > > Total: 869 packages (332 upgrades, 30 new, 10 in new slots, 497 > reinstalls), Size of downloads: 2769158 KiB > Conflict: 1 block > forced reinstall atoms: > > > slot operator dependencies: > (/, sys-libs/ncurses:0) > > > > > forced rebuilds: > > [EOF] > > > > >From this bit I'd think not. (332 upgrades, 30 new, 10 in new slots, 497 reinstalls) I'm not quite sure where you are putting that command tho. Script maybe? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 02:01:14 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > >> No mount point on the minimal isos exists under /mnt where an installer >> can temporarily mount another drive to copy output of errors or created >> scripts that help them get around gentoo's installer limitations. > I haven't used the Gentoo installer discs for years, but you should be > able to create your own mount points. > > Is it still supported? I thought it was abandoned again a good while back. That thing has come and gone so many times, I can't keep up with when it is active or isn't. Still think it is easier and you learn more doing it manually. Each his/her own I guess. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?
Have I successfully updated my system? I ran this command: emerge \ -v \ --verbose-conflicts \ --deep \ -update \ --changed-use \ --keep-going \ --with-bdeps=y \ --changed-deps \ --backtrack=100 \ @world and got tons of stuff that looks like spurious debugging/tracing info parent: (dev-libs/glib-2.64.5:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) child: (virtual/libelf-3:0/1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) (runtime_slot_op) parent: (dev-libs/glib-2.64.5:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) child: (virtual/libelf-3:0/1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) (runtime_slot_op) and these snippets: Total: 869 packages (332 upgrades, 30 new, 10 in new slots, 497 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 2769158 KiB Conflict: 1 block forced reinstall atoms: slot operator dependencies: (/, sys-libs/ncurses:0) forced rebuilds: [EOF]
Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 02:01:14 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > No mount point on the minimal isos exists under /mnt where an installer > can temporarily mount another drive to copy output of errors or created > scripts that help them get around gentoo's installer limitations. I haven't used the Gentoo installer discs for years, but you should be able to create your own mount points. -- Neil Bothwick If you give a man a fish, he's fed for a day. If you teach a man to fish, he'll buy a silly hat. If you talk about fish to a starving man, you're a consultant. pgpE4fLwWmuH9.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] re: install problems
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 at 10:26, Jude DaShiell wrote: > !'sys/libs/timezone-data ' is not a valid package atom. > ! please check ebuild (5) for full details. > ! did you specify a version but forget to prefix with '='?) You seem to have used a slash in the package-category there, sys/libs vs. sys-libs in the instructions. If you change that it should work for you. Regards, Arve
[gentoo-user] re: install problems
This time, when updating @world I decided to not merge anything. I got up to: Next, reconfigure the [365]sys-libs/timezone-data package, which will update the /etc/localtime file for us, based on the /etc/timezone entry. The /etc/localtime file is used by the system C library to know the timezone the system is in. root #emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data And that command produced: !'sys/libs/timezone-data ' is not a valid package atom. ! please check ebuild (5) for full details. ! did you specify a version but forget to prefix with '='?) Probably an instruction may be missing from the handbook with that = character in it. Before this failed command I did: echo 'America/New_york' >/etc/timezone. I'm using the printable version of the handbook if that makes a difference. --
[gentoo-user] installation problems
No mount point on the minimal isos exists under /mnt where an installer can temporarily mount another drive to copy output of errors or created scripts that help them get around gentoo's installer limitations. Earlier tonight I had been fighting with links since links insisted on downloading an image rather than the stage3 file my cursor was located on according to speakup. I ended up putting the base url in a bash script along with an empty download variable then using another computer to get the name of the stage3 file and copying that into the download variable. Then I ran the script which used wget for the download. My latest mistake was to try to save that bash script since as soon as I left /mnt/gentoo everything on /mnt/gentoo went away and all I was left with was a lost+found subdirectory which was empty. I at least still have the four partitions remaining on the gentoo disk. It's also lucky I'm using drive sleds. The decision to remove lynx from the isos I think was not a good decision for screen reader users. Now I'm going to go back and repeat all of this stage3 download work and also forget to save that bash script. --
