It's nice of you to give me so detailed explanation!
I think I would like to use gnome for long time ^_^
Thank you very much
50 mails later, 5 flame wars and just for that... I do believe it
would of been easier to give each of them a test yourself to see what
you prefer. KDE, Fluxbox,
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:51:03 +0200, Rumen Yotov wrote:
Just a shot in the dark, but try cleaning /tmp directory.
Sometimes there's cruft left in it which messes with new options.
While trying that, clear /var/tmp too.
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Old programmers never die; they just branch to a new
On 21 January 2006 07:08, Chris White wrote:
On Friday 20 January 2006 18:10, Linux Java wrote:
I wanna to know KDE and Gnome which is more popular.
That's the most blatant start of a flamewar I've seen...
Oh, there are other ways to start flamewars as good as this one:
What is better,
Am Samstag, den 21.01.2006, 03:17 -0300 schrieb Pupeno:
How are you supposed to emerge PEAR packages today ?
According to this
http://svn.gnqs.org/projects/gentoo-php-overlay/file/docs/php-upgrading.html?format=raw
we have to live with that situation as long as dev-lang/php becomes
stable.
I
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:54:12 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:
Apwal looks rather neat. How did you tie it to the LMB in KDE?
KDE Control Centre - Desktop - Behaviour - General tab -
mouse-button actions - Left button - Custom menu 1 - edit
You hcan halve the number of actions by right-clicking
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 01:06:09 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
That may be true, but it assumes that I want a Desktop Environment in
the first place, which I don't, particularly.
Then why are you participating in a discussion about which of the two
complete Desktop environments is best? ;-)
As you
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:08:29 +0900, Chris White wrote:
I wanna to know KDE and Gnome which is more popular.
That's the most blatant start of a flamewar I've seen...
Ok, let's sit here and ponder. People like KDE, people like GNOME,
hell, people like fluxbox and xfce. Now to put this in
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:51:03 +0200, Rumen Yotov wrote:
Just a shot in the dark, but try cleaning /tmp directory.
Sometimes there's cruft left in it which messes with new options.
While trying that, clear /var/tmp too.
Just do a rm -rf /var/tmp/*
Oh, there are other ways to start flamewars as good as this one:
[...]
What is the better programming language, C or C++.
Better scripting language, perl or python?
Hell, perl and python are programming languages actually!
I cry meta-flamewar on these two flamewars!! :P
m.
--
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 12:19 +, b.n. wrote:
Oh, there are other ways to start flamewars as good as this one:
[...]
What is the better programming language, C or C++.
Better scripting language, perl or python?
Hell, perl and python are programming languages actually!
I cry
*heh heh* what's a better flamewar: the emacs vs vi flameware or the
perl vs python flamewar?
LOL...I'll bite!
Of course the perl vs python flamewar. It introduces, in its best
incarnations, both elegant and clever programming language concepts but
also shows relentless fanboysm and
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 04:56:07 -0600, Dale wrote:
While trying that, clear /var/tmp too.
Just do a rm -rf /var/tmp/* There is a kde-root, kde-dale,
kde-dale2 and kde-test folder in there.
As long as none of these users are logged into KDE at the time, it
should be fine.
--
Neil
On 13:04 Fri 20 Jan , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Based on your post to my other thread I've been looking at the drives you
mentioned. What do you know about the WD Caviar drives? They are cheaper
than the Raptors.
I try to avoid Western Digital in general, except for the Raptors. I
On 1/21/2006 2:44 AM Neil Bothwick said the following:
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:08:29 +0900, Chris White wrote:
I wanna to know KDE and Gnome which is more popular.
That's the most blatant start of a flamewar I've seen...
Ok, let's sit here and ponder. People like KDE, people like
On Saturday 21 January 2006 06:29, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 04:56:07 -0600, Dale wrote:
While trying that, clear /var/tmp too.
Just do a rm -rf /var/tmp/* There is a kde-root, kde-dale,
kde-dale2 and kde-test folder in there.
As long as none of these users are
Hello!
I'd like to be able to run hddtemp http://www.guzu.net/linux/hddtemp.php
with plain user rights - ie. not with root
rights. What's to be done, so that this is
possible?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ LC_ALL=C hddtemp /dev/hda
/dev/hda: Permission denied
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -la /dev/hda
b.n. schreef:
I'm just writing it for the sake of curiosity, so no flaming is here.
Just because some answer sound quite sarcastic, but that's just a
style thing to get it short. :)
Yes, but you then have bloat (because Konqueror contains web
browsing features that you are not using,
Alexander Skwar schreef:
Hello!
I'd like to be able to run hddtemp http://www.guzu.net/linux/hddtemp.php
with plain user rights - ie. not with root
rights. What's to be done, so that this is
possible?
snip
As you can see, I get the error message Permission
denied when I run hddtemp
Holly Bostick wrote:
Alexander Skwar schreef:
Why do I get the Permission denied error message? And
what's to be done?
Isn't hddtemp a daemon
Not necessarily. It can be run in daemon mode, though.
Does the group have the
right to execute hddtemp?
Yep:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -la
Alan E. Davis wrote:
But one glaring deficiency keeps hitting me in the face---you
can't do links with them.
With Konq you can: hold Ctrl+Shift while dragging and dropping a
file.
(But that's only symlinks, and surely you wish to do hard links
too. :)
Benno
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 04:06:44PM +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote:
Does the group have the
right to execute hddtemp?
Yep:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -la `which hddtemp`
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 27712 21. Jan 08:02 /usr/sbin/hddtemp
BTW: sudo is also not what I'm after :) I'm after the
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 03:17 -0300, Pupeno wrote:
How are you supposed to emerge PEAR packages today ?
After upgrading, portage wanted to install dev-lang/php, so I done it remove
some blocking packages, including dev-php/php and dev-php/mod_php.
Now emerging PEAR-XML_Parser or PEAR-DB wants
Rasmus Andersen wrote:
I get this too. stracing the hddtemp process shows that it tries to
perform some ioctls on the device and get EACCESS back, probably from
some uid check in the kernel.
Ah, okay, so the permissions on /dev/hda don't matter
that much.
Understood. Thanks!
The check
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 12:19 +, b.n. wrote:
Oh, there are other ways to start flamewars as good as this one:
[...]
What is the better programming language, C or C++.
Better scripting language, perl or python?
Hell, perl and python are programming languages actually!
I cry
AybOwan!
Argument doesn't allow truth to come out
-Load Buddha-
so no matter all are opensources, let them to think...
On 1/21/06, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alan E. Davis wrote:
But one glaring deficiency keeps hitting me in the face---you
can't do links with them.
With
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 13:04 +, b.n. wrote:
*heh heh* what's a better flamewar: the emacs vs vi flameware or the
perl vs python flamewar?
LOL...I'll bite!
Of course the perl vs python flamewar. It introduces, in its best
incarnations, both elegant and clever programming language
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:49:03 -0600, Dale wrote:
I'm goin gthrough the loop with dbus and hal at the moment.
First it upgrades then it won't work then it downgrades again and I
have to keep messing with them until I can get them both to work. Some
dev needs a better hammer. I'm about ready
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:16:42 -0500, Bill Roberts wrote:
The Raptors are expensive because of the speed, 10,000 rpm vs. 7,200
rpm. They are supposed to be built more ruggedly, an attempt by Western
Digital to steal some of high profit SCSI market.
The WD Raptors were made for that market, they
If I wanted unused and unneccessary code sitting on my PC, I'd use a
binary distribution. Why do I bother with disabling USE flags to not
compile code that is unnecessary for me, if I didn't care about such
things? On the rare occasions that I compile Mozilla (becoming less and
less necessary,
Michael Sullivan wrote:
What's a meta-flamewar???
A flamewar about flamewars.
m.
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Because you have the same interface to set up a
printer on your, your
neighbours' and your 10.000-km-away pen pal.
so?
Can you
explain me the need
to not use http for your own config and using it for
external configs,
while you can have a single configuration app?
No I can't
On 1/21/06, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't worry. I guess I'll have to setuid hddtemp then.
Not necessarily.
rc-update -a hddtemp default (or /etc/init.d/hddtemp start as root)
telnet localhost 7634
See man hddtemp.
-Richard
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Hello,
I am fighting now for a very long time to get my Palm T5 sync under
Linux. Unfortunately without any success, so maybe someone can
point me into the right direction. Ok, here is my setup:
1) kernel
Linux stonki 2.6.13-gentoo-r5 #3 SMP Thu Jan 12 21:24:53 CET 2006
x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm)
On 1/20/06, Linux Java [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's nice of you to give me so detailed explanation!
I think I would like to use gnome for long time ^_^
Thank you very much
Some advice for etiquette on this list:
1. Don't top post.
2. _DON'T_ post html messages
3. Learn to trim the message
On 1/21/06, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A flamewar about flamewars.
Well the most popular flamewar on this list is obiously about
filesystems, so that must be the best! :P
-Richard
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KDE and GNOME, from a user perspective, are about identical, except
that KDE has a couple more bells and whistles.
Now, if you're hacking code, it comes down to which windowing API you
want to use. Of course, the user has the libraries for all of the
popular ones loaded anyway, so, again, it
On Saturday 21 January 2006 05:36, Holly Bostick wrote:
That may be true, but it assumes that I want a Desktop Environment in
the first place, which I don't, particularly.
Ermm...if you don't want a Desktop Environment then why install K Desktop
Environment in the first place and then why get
Hi,
Welcome to my leaner, stripped-to-the-basics,
I-can't-setup-my-printer thread. Come in, make
yourself at home. Much roomier here, as you can see.
Ok, so you click on 'Do Administrative Tasks' at that
place of mystery http://localhost:631/ and it asks
you for your username and password and
On 1/21/06, Justin Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
KDE and GNOME, from a user perspective, are about identical, except
that KDE has a couple more bells and whistles.
Not true from _this_ users's perspective.
-Richard
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Use the root password - it's looking for root's login and password. At least
that's how mine works.
On Saturday January 21 2006 13:22, maxim wexler wrote:
Hi,
Welcome to my leaner, stripped-to-the-basics,
I-can't-setup-my-printer thread. Come in, make
yourself at home. Much roomier here, as
On 21 January 2006 16:50, Holly Bostick wrote:
That's not the point, which is where we have a failure to communicate.
Openbox and FVWM-crystal (and ICEwm, for that matter) are lighter,
faster desktops than KDE partially because they do not contain the code
to put icons on the desktop (whether
On Saturday 21 January 2006 23:52, maxim wexler wrote:
Ok, so you click on 'Do Administrative Tasks' at that
place of mystery http://localhost:631/ and it asks
you for your username and password and you give it
your username and password and it asks you again and
again...and as often as it
On 21 January 2006 16:50, Holly Bostick wrote:
So for all of
me, they could have done something else with that time (like make the
code modular, so if I didn't want it, I could disable it with a USE flag
or something,
Forgot this in my other mail:
When I looked last time, konqueror contained
On Saturday 21 January 2006 23:52, maxim wexler wrote:
Hi,
Welcome to my leaner, stripped-to-the-basics,
I-can't-setup-my-printer thread. Come in, make
yourself at home. Much roomier here, as you can see.
Oops!!! Looks like I missed your more obese thread about this same problem.
Can you
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 11:07 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
On 1/21/06, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A flamewar about flamewars.
Well the most popular flamewar on this list is obiously about
filesystems, so that must be the best! :P
-Richard
I still use ext3 for / and ext2 for /boot. I
On 21 January 2006 20:07, Richard Fish wrote:
On 1/21/06, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A flamewar about flamewars.
Well the most popular flamewar on this list is obiously about
filesystems, so that must be the best! :P
I forgot that one. Shame on me!
Uwe
--
Unix is sexy:
who | grep -i
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:07:21 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
What about the one about top-posting
Well the most popular flamewar on this list is obiously about
filesystems, so that must be the best! :P
vs. bottom-posting? ;-)
--
Neil Bothwick
If a deaf person swears, does his mother wash his
Michael Sullivan wrote:
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 11:07 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
I still use ext3 for / and ext2 for /boot. I get confused about all the
others.
I don't grok that.
*cough*FAT12*cough* is all you need :p (and 640KB of ram is enough for
everybody).
Personally I use ext3
Michael Sullivan wrote:
I still use ext3 for / and ext2 for /boot. I get confused about all the
others.
I have ext2 for /boot and reiserfs for everything else. But reiserfs
fragmentation is going to make me pretty angry...
m.
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maxim wexler wrote:
Because you have the same interface to set up a
printer on your, your
neighbours' and your 10.000-km-away pen pal.
so?
So you don't have to write two (if you are a developer) or learn to use
two (if you are an end user).
Can you
explain me the need
to not use
On Чтв, 2006-01-19 at 09:11 -0800, Richard Ruth wrote:
How do I start a second instance of FireFox V1.5?
I do not have firefox-1.5 installed by try
$ firefox --help
Peter.
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Hi,
I have only one question:
how do you deal with the data-eating bugs, nautilus is known for?
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:07:06 +, Justin Hart wrote:
KDE and GNOME, from a user perspective, are about identical,
If that were true, it would be impossible to start a DE flamewar among
users.
PS vi and emacs are the same :)
--
Neil Bothwick
WinErr 020: Error recording error codes -
Beau E. Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now I notice in eix that all my old kernels are marked as
'installed'. I normally keep only the previous kernel in
/boot. Can I safely 'emerge -C' the older kernels w/o
upsetting my apple cart?
Yes: unlike most packages these are the kernel *sources* not
Richard Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now that I am using FireFox V1.5 (Deer Park), if
FireFox is already running, /usr/bin/firefox
-ProfileManager does not start the profile manager,
instead a new FireFox window of the already running
FireFox is started.
How do I start a second instance
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:55:17 -0800 (PST), maxim wexler wrote:
And can somebody explain the need to use http to set
up a printer on one's own computer? Afterall PC
*does* mean personal computer. I'm assuming that
localhost:631 is on my own machine. But even so it
seems a bit much.
Leaving
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm looking for recommendations for a new video card. Obviously
something that works well with Linux in general and Gentoo in
particular.
Any suggestions?
Depends a bit on what you want: basic stuff or 3d-gaming !
Should I prefer a digital interface over the
List Members -
I have been looking through the list archives and haven't found an
answer to my question. I have compiled KDE 3.5 with alsa -arts in
my make.conf. Now is it possible to hear System Notifications, by
using an external audio player. I have set up an external audio
player in
On Птн, 2006-01-20 at 08:55 -0800, maxim wexler wrote:
According to the Gentoo Printing Guide - Installing
the Printer, I'm to go to http://localhost:631 and
then click on Administration. Well, there's Do
Administrative Tasks, so I clicked on that. The guide
says to enter root login and
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:49:03 -0600, Dale wrote:
I'm goin gthrough the loop with dbus and hal at the moment.
First it upgrades then it won't work then it downgrades again and I
have to keep messing with them until I can get them both to work. Some
dev needs a better
On Сбт, 2006-01-21 at 14:55 -0500, James Colby wrote:
I have been looking through the list archives and haven't found an
answer to my question. I have compiled KDE 3.5 with alsa -arts in
my make.conf. Now is it possible to hear System Notifications, by
using an external audio player. I
I've searched all over google and the like, and I'm at my wits'
end... I cannot get my gentoo box to connect to any of my roommate's
Windows XP Pro shares.
His computer is named JDpc:
# smbclient -L //jdpc -N
Anonymous login successful
Domain=[RAWSEWAGE] OS=[Windows 5.1]
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:50:06 +0100, Simon Kellett wrote:
(So you could do emerge gentoo sources, config, make, install etc, and
immediately remove the kernel sources.)
As long as you don't need any third party kernel modules, like the Nvidia
drivers.
--
Neil Bothwick
Speak softly and carry
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 03:04:03PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
# smbclient -L //jdpc -N
Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
My conclusion is that you absolutely *must* use a non-null username
AND password when connecting to Windows XP Professional.
Apparently,
My conclusion is that you absolutely *must* use a non-null username
AND password when connecting to Windows XP Professional.
Apparently, you cannot connect to any share with a username that
does not have the password set.
Can anyone confirm or deny this? If there is a way to get true
On 1/21/06, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Sullivan wrote: I still use ext3 for / and ext2 for /boot.I get confused about all the others.I have ext2 for /boot and reiserfs for everything else. But reiserfsfragmentation is going to make me pretty angry...
m.XFS is the best. It is supported,
On Saturday 21 January 2006 14:46, a tiny voice compelled Neil Bothwick to
write:
PS vi and emacs are the same
OH MY GOD NO! Not that again.
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On Sunday 22 January 2006 00:02, Ernie Schroder wrote:
On Saturday 21 January 2006 14:46, a tiny voice compelled Neil Bothwick to
write:
PS vi and emacs are the same
OH MY GOD NO! Not that again.
why not?
he is correct.
Both were made to drive their users crazy.
vi with stupid
Windows XP is very odd when it comes to looking up shares from other computers. Go into your connection properties, uncheck File and Print Sharing, then restart. Add File and Print Sharing back in. Do the same with the guest account next. Finally, very temporarily share your first hard drive just
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 04:48:24AM +, b.n. wrote
Ehm. Perhaps it's me being dense but: who cares about unused code? Ok,
you have unnecessary, unused code sitting on your HD: where's the
problem? You never see it.
A year ago, I was using a 1999 Dell (128 megs RAM, 450 mhz PIII) as my
You are not being dense - unused code does nothing but take up disc
space.
On 01/21/06 19:34:02, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 04:48:24AM +, b.n. wrote
Ehm. Perhaps it's me being dense but: who cares about unused code?
Ok,
you have unnecessary, unused code sitting on your
You might want to uncheck simple file sharing in the file options and see if
that works.
On Saturday January 21 2006 19:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 11:45:38PM +0200, Ryan Viljoen wrote:
I can access my Windows XP Pro's shares with out user name or
password quite
Go onto your roommates box and turn administrative tools on the start menu. Then go to Administrative tools, Local Security Policy. From there go to Local Policy - Security Options. In the right view, find Network Access: Sharing and Security for Local Accounts, then change that setting to Classic
I just switched from using UW-IMAP to Courier-IMAP. Everything is
working great. But, I noticed that the most current stable version for
x86 is 4.0.1 and the most unstable version is 4.0.4. On the Courier
webpage, version 4.0.6 has been out since September of last year. Is
there current
On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 11:05 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
Some advice for etiquette on this list:
1. Don't top post.
2. _DON'T_ post html messages
3. Learn to trim the message you are replying to.
-Richard
Thank you for your advice!
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 01:19:53AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:14:01 +0100 Pawe?? Madej [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| for me it is used to make vim modular X compatible.
Wha? No no no. If that flag is off, vim won't go anywhere near X. If
that flag is on, vim will link
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 07:17 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
On 1/20/06, Linux Java [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wanna to know KDE and Gnome which is more popular.
Linus recommends you use KDE.
http://lists.osdl.org/pipermail/desktop_architects/2005-December/000390.html
Don't take me wrong, i
Walter Dnes wrote:
A year ago, I was using a 1999 Dell (128 megs RAM, 450 mhz PIII) as my
main machine. I still have it around as my emergency backup. KDE
runs (would you believe crawls) painfully slowly on that machine.
Using blackbox plus fbpanel, it's perfectly OK for most stuff, except
Hello,
Well I have 2 different usb memory devices and I cannot
seem to get a fat (or ntfs) file system on them.
I have to manually mount them with this command as coldplug
does not do it automatically. I have to use:
'mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb'
Then I can use 'cp' to copy files onto the usb mem
On (21/01/06 18:26), Jeff Grossman wrote:
I just switched from using UW-IMAP to Courier-IMAP. Everything is
working great. But, I noticed that the most current stable version for
x86 is 4.0.1 and the most unstable version is 4.0.4. On the Courier
webpage, version 4.0.6 has been out since
On (22/01/06 04:48), James wrote:
Hello,
Well I have 2 different usb memory devices and I cannot
seem to get a fat (or ntfs) file system on them.
I have to manually mount them with this command as coldplug
does not do it automatically. I have to use:
'mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb'
Then I
Hello everyone,
It's late and I'm trying to reemerge kde using equery. I know how to use
equery to display the packages I need to rebuild, but it fails with:
# emerge -pv $(equery -q l kde-base/)
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies
!!!
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 23:01:26 -0500 Walter Dnes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| At work, where I have to use Windows (ptui) I can copy text
| from the GUI to the clipboard, {ALT-TAB} to a vim session, and paste
| the clipboard with * even if vim is running in a textmode console.
| Is there some similar
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