Re: [gentoo-web-user] Upstream requirements for web-apps
Renat Lumpau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We're in good shape now, but we weren't even a couple of months ago. At this point, we should be fine if we take care of ongoing maintenance, but things can _quickly_ turn ugly. As a matter of fact, I'll be offline for the better part of the summer, possibly as early as May, and I'd really like to make sure I don't spend another 4 months crawling through 150+ bugs when I return in September. What is hard for me to judge is what kind of impact the security problems had during the last year. What were the main problems for the web-apps herd? There may have been a few security bugs to which we did not react as urgently as we should have. I don't know any specific instances because I wasn't around, and when I was, we reacted quickly :) Not to say that I'm the only person doing the work, just can't speak for all security issues we've had. As far as I'm concerned, the main problem is that we were badly out of sync with upstream for a few months when I was on hiatus. That means dissatisfied users, lots of bugs, potential security issues, etc etc etc. Ok, so this clearly describes a man power problem that currently does not exist. I know from personal experience that I only have about half a day for looking at a bug assigned to webapps until Renat wakes up and fixes it :) But it's clear that the herd should be able to handle the bugs in case Renat is not around. I think Renats suggestion to reduce the portage tree to a limited set of packages that cover a variety of different topics makes sense. Would it be reasonable to try to define two webapps members as primary maintainers for each of the packages that we select? I believe that could reduce the effect of looking at a bug and deciding that somebody will certainly fix it. I believe that we should not make the current suggestion for the security requirements a real requirement for the list of selected applications but instead just declare them as the desired goal. As I mentioned in my last mail, I wanted to be able to have additional packages in portage that I personally use. The main reason for that was that I feel that the overlay will never be on the same level as the tree itself. While it is not extremely complex to use the user will have to know about it, install subversion, check out a repository, and modify the make.conf. This is more than what I consider necessary to tell the user that this package is less well maintained / less secure than the packages in the main portage tree. I guess it will actually prevent a number of people from ever seeing the package. In addition I believe some users might not be exactly happy if we start moving packages out of portage into the overlay. So in order to make the process less complex I will provide layman. The tool is able to manage gentoo overlays. In order to get the webapps overlay you run emerge layman layman -f -a webapps-stable -a webapps-experimental to get both overlays fetched and added to your make.conf automatically. To update the repositories you can later run layman --sync People that want to crash their hard drives can get it from my overlay: layman -f -a wrobel-stable emerge layman :) I think this significantly reduces the differences between the overlay and the tree. As a result my urge to add stuff to the tree would also be significantly reduced. And I think that moving stuff from the tree to the overlay would then be an acceptable option. For the overlay I would suggest that the production-stable branch should be only accesible to devs and that we handle it the same way as we currently handle the tree. The experimental branch would continue to be our playground. Cheers, Gunnar -- Gunnar WrobelGentoo Developer __C_o_n_t_a_c_t__ Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.gunnarwrobel.de IRC: #gentoo-web at freenode.org _ pgpk1997XhEJd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-web-user] Upstream requirements for web-apps
Renat Lumpau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We need to be able, yes. Realistically speaking, if I disappear, that would require someone else spending more time on bug-fixing. Nowadays it's not too bad - we're talking maybe 1-5 version bumps and a couple of bugs a week. Is there anyone willing to take on that responsibility? I'll certainly take a share of that. I won't have the same speed as you, but it should be possible to do about 50% of that. I'm still unconvinced that security requirements meet a real need. We don't currently have any outstanding security issues (perhaps with the exception of phpBB and mantisbt, both of which have active upstreams yet can't get their act together wrt security, and both are p-masked). Ok, agreed. But to have the information you collected on the dev wiki is certainly a good thing that we should continue with apps we add to the tree. All great ideas. layman would be great - any idea when you'll release? Have you checked with other devs if they're aware of or are developing something similar? The version available from my overlay does work. But I still need to write a man page, collect a list of overlays and do some minor fixes. List of stuff I still want to do is here: http://projects.gunnarwrobel.de/scripts/report/3. Maybe in 2 weeks? Regards, Gunnar -- Gunnar WrobelGentoo Developer __C_o_n_t_a_c_t__ Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.gunnarwrobel.de IRC: #gentoo-web at freenode.org _ pgpyHNwonK5nc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
On Sunday 29 January 2006 06:41, Ian wrote: unmask all of the packages im building in package.keywords. You seem to have added them to package.unmask as well. Don't do that. -- Regards, Abhay pgpDBsUMAdkF2.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] artsd using a TON of memory
Hi, I have noticed this for a while but can't figure it out. After I have been logged into KDE for a long while, artsd starts using a LOT of memory. Keep in mine this rig has 1GB or ram if you go by the percentage. This is from top: top - 04:16:58 up 5 days, 12:31, 5 users, load average: 1.57, 1.46, 1.21 Tasks: 89 total, 3 running, 86 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 1.0% us, 0.7% sy, 97.7% ni, 0.0% id, 0.0% wa, 0.7% hi, 0.0% si Mem: 1034576k total, 982960k used,51616k free, 198168k buffers Swap: 488336k total, 196k used, 488140k free, 178804k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 24128 dale -51 0 197m 168m 5420 S 0.0 16.7 0:31.72 artsd 23763 root 15 0 238m 108m 7108 S 0.7 10.7 37:15.63 X 5980 dale 15 0 198m 96m 23m S 0.0 9.5 7:05.07 mozilla-bin Why is it using so much memory? Is this a bug with KDE 3.5 and I need to report it? Any ideas at all. Come on Holly, you have to know something about this. LOL Oh, I can log out and back in, it's back to normal. I hate logging out almost as much as I hate to reboot. I like my slideshow OK. o_O What you folks think?? Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] KDE programs starts slowly
Hi, everyone Yesterday I reinstalled gentoo, because I'd made the filesystem dirty (always used sudo, and installed programs not in portage randomly...) and I want a new, clean system. I install new kde (3.5.0), but there is a problem: While other programs - firefox, gftp, bittorrent - runs fine, all of my programs using some kdelib or - if I'm right -, DCOP starts slowly, and after starting cannot run fine. For example: KDE starts up slower than in the previous installation. Then I pick konqueror, it takes 2-3 secs. to start. Then I close, and re-exec it. 2-3 secs again (where is the cache?). BUT: KHTML starts to render the page, it hangs for 2 seconds, then begin to load. hmmm... Clicking refresh causes the same. Running KDE apps writes to the konzole I started from: Qt: Locales not supported on X server. In my opinion, it doesn't affect, because in the previous installation it was the same. Now let's show how I emerged KDE: /etc/make.conf -- USE=artswrappersuid bash-completion cdparanoia cdr dvd dvdr dvdread ffmpeg font-server icq java mmx mplayer msn nptl nsplugin nvidia pdf real reiserfs samba sse sse2 tidy timidity vidix win32codecs xine xvid -gnome -gstreamer -gtk -gtk2 -nls -oss -pam -xmms KDE's version: kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0-r1 hdparm -tT /dev/hdb says (it's configured properly): Timing cached reads: 824 MB in 2.00 seconds = 411.97 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 156 MB in 3.04 seconds = 51.34 MB/sec And, what can be the source of problems, the file attributes in /tmp/.ICE-Unix: ls -alR /tmp (not the whole output): rwxrwxrwt 9 root root 392 Jan 29 11:26 . drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 464 Jan 28 22:39 .. srw-rw 1 kmarc audio 0 Jan 29 11:26 alsa-dmix-12654-1138530397-665053 srw-rw 1 kmarc audio 0 Jan 29 11:26 alsa-dmix-12654-1138530397-676842 drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 112 Jan 29 10:52 .ICE-unix drwx-- 2 kmarc users 152 Jan 29 11:25 kde-kmarc drwx-- 2 root root 72 Jan 29 10:49 kde-root drwx-- 3 kmarc users 544 Jan 29 11:25 ksocket-kmarc drwx-- 2 root root 80 Jan 29 10:49 ksocket-root drwx-- 2 kmarc users 48 Jan 29 11:20 mc-kmarc -r--r--r-- 1 root users 11 Jan 29 10:52 .X0-lock drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 72 Jan 29 10:52 .X11-unix /tmp/.ICE-unix: total 0 drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 112 Jan 29 10:52 . drwxrwxrwt 9 root root 392 Jan 29 11:26 .. srwx-- 1 kmarc users 0 Jan 29 10:52 12659 srwx-- 1 kmarc users 0 Jan 29 10:52 dcop12643-1138528357 /tmp/kde-kmarc: total 1181 drwx-- 2 kmarc users 152 Jan 29 11:25 . drwxrwxrwt 9 root root 392 Jan 29 11:26 .. -rw--- 1 kmarc users 1203071 Jan 29 11:25 kmailYGfwjc.tmp -rw--- 1 kmarc users 200 Jan 29 10:56 konqueror-crash-DMKQib.log lrwxrwxrwx 1 kmarc users 31 Jan 29 10:53 ksycoca - /var/tmp/kdecache-kmarc/ksycoca So, how can I solve it? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] artsd using a TON of memory
On (29/01/06 04:23), Dale wrote: Hi, I have noticed this for a while but can't figure it out. After I have been logged into KDE for a long while, artsd starts using a LOT of memory. Keep in mine this rig has 1GB or ram if you go by the percentage. This is from top: top - 04:16:58 up 5 days, 12:31, 5 users, load average: 1.57, 1.46, 1.21 Tasks: 89 total, 3 running, 86 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 1.0% us, 0.7% sy, 97.7% ni, 0.0% id, 0.0% wa, 0.7% hi, 0.0% si Mem: 1034576k total, 982960k used,51616k free, 198168k buffers Swap: 488336k total, 196k used, 488140k free, 178804k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 24128 dale -51 0 197m 168m 5420 S 0.0 16.7 0:31.72 artsd 23763 root 15 0 238m 108m 7108 S 0.7 10.7 37:15.63 X 5980 dale 15 0 198m 96m 23m S 0.0 9.5 7:05.07 mozilla-bin Why is it using so much memory? Is this a bug with KDE 3.5 and I need to report it? Any ideas at all. Come on Holly, you have to know something about this. LOL Oh, I can log out and back in, it's back to normal. I hate logging out almost as much as I hate to reboot. I like my slideshow OK. o_O What you folks think?? Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi Dale, Recently there were a number of threads about arts, most people had disabled 'arts'. Just put -arts in your /etc/make.conf as a USE flag, then run:#emerge -N world -av. There will be all the apps required a recompile but w/o 'arts' - so hit Enter. Could use (IIRC) alsa + dmix or as in my case esound (but it's from Gnome). In many messages there were a hint about 'arts' going away from KDE (check Google). HTH.Rumen pgpPOARscRACF.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Are multiple emerges safe?
Hi - Can I safely emerge (different packages, non-interdependent) in different terminal sessions at the same time? -- Aloha = Beau; -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] artsd using a TON of memory
--- Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On (29/01/06 04:23), Dale wrote: Hi, I have noticed this for a while but can't figure it out. After I have been logged into KDE for a long while, artsd starts using a LOT of memory. Keep in mine this rig has 1GB or ram if you go by the percentage. This is from top: top - 04:16:58 up 5 days, 12:31, 5 users, load average: 1.57, 1.46, 1.21 Tasks: 89 total, 3 running, 86 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 1.0% us, 0.7% sy, 97.7% ni, 0.0% id, 0.0% wa, 0.7% hi, 0.0% si Mem: 1034576k total, 982960k used,51616k free, 198168k buffers Swap: 488336k total, 196k used, 488140k free, 178804k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 24128 dale -51 0 197m 168m 5420 S 0.0 16.7 0:31.72 artsd 23763 root 15 0 238m 108m 7108 S 0.7 10.7 37:15.63 X 5980 dale 15 0 198m 96m 23m S 0.0 9.5 7:05.07 mozilla-bin Why is it using so much memory? Is this a bug with KDE 3.5 and I need to report it? Any ideas at all. Come on Holly, you have to know something about this. LOL Oh, I can log out and back in, it's back to normal. I hate logging out almost as much as I hate to reboot. I like my slideshow OK. o_O What you folks think?? Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi Dale, Recently there were a number of threads about arts, most people had disabled 'arts'. Just put -arts in your /etc/make.conf as a USE flag, then run:#emerge -N world -av. There will be all the apps required a recompile but w/o 'arts' - so hit Enter. Could use (IIRC) alsa + dmix or as in my case esound (but it's from Gnome). In many messages there were a hint about 'arts' going away from KDE (check Google). HTH.Rumen Be aware that if you disable arts you will loose sound notifications from kde programs (most notable kopete). A good workaroud is to let it active but configure all the programs that can use alsa directlly not to use arts. This will slow the growing of arts :) Also, there is no need to logout in order to restart arts, just use `killall arts` when it has grown too big. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Are multiple emerges safe?
Beau E. Cox wrote: Can I safely emerge (different packages, non-interdependent) in different terminal sessions at the same time? Yes, I do all that all the time. Alexander Skwar -- Espy we need to split main intocore and wtf-uses-this -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] KDE starts and runs slowly
Hi, everyone Yesterday I reinstalled gentoo, because I'd made the filesystem dirty (always used sudo, and installed programs not in portage randomly...) and I want a new, clean system. I install new kde (3.5.0), but there is a problem: While other programs - firefox, gftp, bittorrent - run fine, all of my programs using some kdelib or ,if I'm right, DCOP start slowly, and after starting cannot run fine. For example: KDE starts up slower than in the previous installation. Then I pick konqueror, it takes 2-3 secs. to start. Then I close, and re-exec it. 2-3 secs again (where is the cache?). BUT: KHTML starts to render the page, it hangs for 2 seconds, then begin to load. hmmm... Clicking refresh causes the same. Running KDE apps writes to the konzole I started from: Qt: Locales not supported on X server. In my opinion, it doesn't affect, because in the previous installation it was the same. Now let's show how I emerged KDE: /etc/make.conf -- USE=artswrappersuid bash-completion cdparanoia cdr dvd dvdr dvdread ffmpeg font-server icq java mmx mplayer msn nptl nsplugin nvidia pdf real reiserfs samba sse sse2 tidy timidity vidix win32codecs xine xvid -gnome -gstreamer -gtk -gtk2 -nls -oss -pam -xmms KDE's version: kde-base/kdebase-3.5.0-r1 hdparm -tT /dev/hdb says (it's configured properly): Timing cached reads: 824 MB in 2.00 seconds = 411.97 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 156 MB in 3.04 seconds = 51.34 MB/sec And, what can be the source of problems, the file attributes in /tmp/.ICE-Unix: ls -alR /tmp (not the whole output): rwxrwxrwt 9 root root 392 Jan 29 11:26 . drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 464 Jan 28 22:39 .. srw-rw 1 kmarc audio 0 Jan 29 11:26 alsa-dmix-12654-1138530397-665053 srw-rw 1 kmarc audio 0 Jan 29 11:26 alsa-dmix-12654-1138530397-676842 drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 112 Jan 29 10:52 .ICE-unix drwx-- 2 kmarc users 152 Jan 29 11:25 kde-kmarc drwx-- 2 root root 72 Jan 29 10:49 kde-root drwx-- 3 kmarc users 544 Jan 29 11:25 ksocket-kmarc drwx-- 2 root root 80 Jan 29 10:49 ksocket-root drwx-- 2 kmarc users 48 Jan 29 11:20 mc-kmarc -r--r--r-- 1 root users 11 Jan 29 10:52 .X0-lock drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 72 Jan 29 10:52 .X11-unix /tmp/.ICE-unix: total 0 drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 112 Jan 29 10:52 . drwxrwxrwt 9 root root 392 Jan 29 11:26 .. srwx-- 1 kmarc users 0 Jan 29 10:52 12659 srwx-- 1 kmarc users 0 Jan 29 10:52 dcop12643-1138528357 /tmp/kde-kmarc: total 1181 drwx-- 2 kmarc users 152 Jan 29 11:25 . drwxrwxrwt 9 root root 392 Jan 29 11:26 .. -rw--- 1 kmarc users 1203071 Jan 29 11:25 kmailYGfwjc.tmp -rw--- 1 kmarc users 200 Jan 29 10:56 konqueror-crash-DMKQib.log lrwxrwxrwx 1 kmarc users 31 Jan 29 10:53 ksycoca - /var/tmp/kdecache-kmarc/ksycoca So, how can I solve it? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Are multiple emerges safe?
--- Beau E. Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi - Can I safely emerge (different packages, non-interdependent) in different terminal sessions at the same time? -- Aloha = Beau; -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Yes, you can start as many sesions of emerge as you like, even for the same package, portage uses locks to make sure they do not conflict with each other. A very useful application for this is to do something like this: in one console start `emerge -f kde` and in another `emerge kde`. The first will just download the files needed and the second will compile them. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Are multiple emerges safe?
On Sunday 29 January 2006 12:56 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: Beau E. Cox wrote: Can I safely emerge (different packages, non-interdependent) in different terminal sessions at the same time? Yes, I do all that all the time. Alexander Skwar -- Espy we need to split main intocore and wtf-uses-this Thanks. I've been waiting on a veeery long emerge. -- Aloha = Beau; -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] artsd using a TON of memory
On Sunday 29 January 2006 11:55, Andrei Slavoiu wrote: --- Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On (29/01/06 04:23), Dale wrote: Hi, I have noticed this for a while but can't figure it out. After I have been logged into KDE for a long while, artsd starts using a LOT of memory. Keep in mine this rig has 1GB or ram if you go by the percentage. This is from top: top - 04:16:58 up 5 days, 12:31, 5 users, load average: 1.57, 1.46, 1.21 Tasks: 89 total, 3 running, 86 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 1.0% us, 0.7% sy, 97.7% ni, 0.0% id, 0.0% wa, 0.7% hi, 0.0% si Mem: 1034576k total, 982960k used,51616k free, 198168k buffers Swap: 488336k total, 196k used, 488140k free, 178804k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 24128 dale -51 0 197m 168m 5420 S 0.0 16.7 0:31.72 artsd 23763 root 15 0 238m 108m 7108 S 0.7 10.7 37:15.63 X 5980 dale 15 0 198m 96m 23m S 0.0 9.5 7:05.07 mozilla-bin Why is it using so much memory? Is this a bug with KDE 3.5 and I need to report it? Any ideas at all. Come on Holly, you have to know something about this. LOL Oh, I can log out and back in, it's back to normal. I hate logging out almost as much as I hate to reboot. I like my slideshow OK. o_O What you folks think?? Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi Dale, Recently there were a number of threads about arts, most people had disabled 'arts'. Just put -arts in your /etc/make.conf as a USE flag, then run:#emerge -N world -av. There will be all the apps required a recompile but w/o 'arts' - so hit Enter. Could use (IIRC) alsa + dmix or as in my case esound (but it's from Gnome). In many messages there were a hint about 'arts' going away from KDE (check Google). HTH.Rumen Be aware that if you disable arts you will loose sound notifications from kde programs (most notable kopete). A good workaroud is to let it active but configure all the programs that can use alsa directlly not to use arts. This will slow the growing of arts :) Also, there is no need to logout in order to restart arts, just use `killall arts` when it has grown too big. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com No, you can disable arts without lose systemsounds. Just check kcontrol - Sound Multimedia - System Notifications, then go to the right bottom, button called Player Settings, click on it, choose external player (second button), and type /usr/bin/ogg123 It works fine, and you can disable arts -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] X USE flag - what does it do?
Hi! Quite a number of packages support a X USE flag. The package that I'm right now looking at is vlc: [ebuild R ] media-video/vlc-0.8.4a USE=alsa arts cdda dvd esd ffmpeg matroska mp3 mpeg nls nsplugin ogg real vlm vorbis win32codecs wxwindows xml2 xv -3dfx -X -a52 -aac -aalib -avahi -bidi -corba -daap -debug -dts -dvb -fbcon -flac -ggi -gnutls -hal -httpd -joystick -libcaca -lirc -live -mod -ncurses -opengl -oss -png -samba -screen -sdl -shout -skins -speex -stream -svg -svga -theora -truetype -v4l -vcd -xinerama -xosd 0 kB As you can see, I built vlc with USE=-X. What am I now missing? When I startup vlc, I still have a X GUI. A different example - gnupg: [ebuild R ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.2-r3 USE=X caps* ecc* idea* nls readline static* usb zlib -bzip2* -curl* -ldap -smartcard 21 kB As you can see here, gnupg is built with the flag X set. What has been enabled with that? Also quite a number of libraries support X, like [I--] [ ] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.10.1-r1 (0) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.12.0 (0) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/libgtop-2.12.2 (2) [I--] [ ] gnome-base/libglade-0.17-r6 (0) What do all of these do with X? And what would go away if X were disabled (-X)? Thanks, Alexander Skwar -- Espy we need to split main intocore and wtf-uses-this -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] artsd using a TON of memory
Andrei Slavoiu wrote: Be aware that if you disable arts you will loose sound notifications from kde programs (most notable kopete). A good workaroud is to let it active but configure all the programs that can use alsa directlly not to use arts. This will slow the growing of arts :) Also, there is no need to logout in order to restart arts, just use `killall arts` when it has grown too big. If I kill artsd how do I restart it? I like all the sounds. It makes a sound when I do anything, except move the mouse or hit a key on the keyboard. I just like it. Maybe they will phase it out later on. I have read where people were moving away from arts I just didn't know why. I only started having this with KDE 3.5 though. Dale :-) :-) Now to fix this pesky circle for dbus, hal and ivman. -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] artsd using a TON of memory
On Sunday 29 January 2006 11:23, Dale wrote: Oh, I can log out and back in, it's back to normal. I hate logging out almost as much as I hate to reboot. I like my slideshow OK. o_O so just kill it ... killall -9 artsd artsd or something like that. Why log out if you can kill it? And why using arts or any other sound daemon at all? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Are multiple emerges safe?
On Sunday 29 January 2006 01:04 am, Andrei Slavoiu wrote: --- Beau E. Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi - Can I safely emerge (different packages, non-interdependent) in different terminal sessions at the same time? -- Aloha = Beau; -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Yes, you can start as many sesions of emerge as you like, even for the same package, portage uses locks to make sure they do not conflict with each other. A very useful application for this is to do something like this: in one console start `emerge -f kde` and in another `emerge kde`. The first will just download the files needed and the second will compile them. That's good to know. I used Sorcerer for about two years and was burned by trying multiple 'casts' (the Sorcerer emerge) several times, so I just wanted to check. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Aloha = Beau; -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE programs starts slowly
On Sunday 29 January 2006 11:29, Korondi Márk wrote: programs using some kdelib or - if I'm right -, DCOP starts slowly, and after starting cannot run fine. For example: KDE starts up slower than in the previous installation. usually this is a not correctly set up /etc/hostname Then I pick konqueror, it takes 2-3 secs. to start. Then I close, and re-exec it. 2-3 secs again (where is the cache?). BUT: KHTML starts to render the page, it hangs for 2 seconds, then begin to load. hmmm... Clicking refresh causes the same. Running KDE apps writes to the konzole I started from: Qt: Locales not supported on X server. In my opinion, it doesn't affect, because in the previous installation it was the same. well, I do not get this warning and KDE is very fast. Now let's show how I emerged KDE: /etc/make.conf -- USE=artswrappersuid bash-completion cdparanoia cdr dvd dvdr dvdread ffmpeg font-server icq java mmx mplayer msn nptl nsplugin nvidia pdf real reiserfs samba sse sse2 tidy timidity vidix win32codecs xine xvid -gnome -gstreamer -gtk -gtk2 -nls -oss -pam -xmms why -nls? So, how can I solve it? kill kdm and rm all the ICE, ksycoca and .dcop .X11-blabla stuff? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] artsd using a TON of memory
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Sunday 29 January 2006 11:23, Dale wrote: Oh, I can log out and back in, it's back to normal. I hate logging out almost as much as I hate to reboot. I like my slideshow OK. o_O so just kill it ... killall -9 artsd artsd or something like that. Why log out if you can kill it? And why using arts or any other sound daemon at all? Me likes a lot of noise. LOL I have all the sounds turned on I think. Maybe I can go find some more to turn on. O_O Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] artsd using a TON of memory
--- Korondi Márk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you can disable arts without lose systemsounds. Just check kcontrol - Sound Multimedia - System Notifications, then go to the right bottom, button called Player Settings, click on it, choose external player (second button), and type /usr/bin/ogg123 It works fine, and you can disable arts I didn't see that button before :D Anyway, some sounds are in wav format so it's better to use /usr/bin/play (part of sox). And for some reason this does not work for me, I still get no sound. I'll have to investigate this. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] artsd using a TON of memory
Andrei Slavoiu wrote: --- Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I kill artsd how do I restart it? It will be started automaticaly when a program needs it. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Cool. Let's see what happens when it starts chewing up my ram again. Dale :-) Parden me while I go say hello to Mr Bubble. -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] artsd using a TON of memory
On Sunday 29 January 2006 12:35, Dale wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Sunday 29 January 2006 11:23, Dale wrote: Oh, I can log out and back in, it's back to normal. I hate logging out almost as much as I hate to reboot. I like my slideshow OK. o_O so just kill it ... killall -9 artsd artsd or something like that. Why log out if you can kill it? And why using arts or any other sound daemon at all? Me likes a lot of noise. LOL I have all the sounds turned on I think. Maybe I can go find some more to turn on. O_O well, I hate noise, but for mixed sound sound daemons are not needed. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE programs starts slowly
Thank you for the promptly answer, usually this is a not correctly set up /etc/hostname hmmm... during the install the gentoo-hanbook doesn't say me to set it up. I write my hostname in it, restart kde, but it didn't solve my problem. well, I do not get this warning and KDE is very fast. why -nls? :-) I always get these messages, because I'm Hungarian and use linux's with locale settings, such LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-2 LC_ALL=en_US.ISO-8859-2. Otherwise on frugalware we also get this message. KDE _was_ very fast on this computer, too, so it's not a problem why -nls? why nls? (I use it on English) kill kdm and rm all the ICE, ksycoca and .dcop .X11-blabla stuff? I don't use kdm. Probably it's the problem? ;-) After rm -R /tmp/* the problem isn't solved... :-( -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
Abhay Kedia schreef: On Sunday 29 January 2006 06:41, Ian wrote: unmask all of the packages im building in package.keywords. You seem to have added them to package.unmask as well. Don't do that. Just as a note, there doesn't seem to be a choice in this regard (i.e., you have to add kdewhatever-3.5.1 to package.unmask). If I don't add it to package.unmask, I get a halt from Portage because some of the dependent packages that [ nomerge ] packages want to emerge are masked. The only way I've found around it in the past three days is to just go ahead and unmask them, let Portage fail to download then tarballs, and then do a --resume --skipfirst to proceed. I could of course not --deep the update, but that covers everything, which I don't want. I also upgraded Portage to see if it was a Portage problem, but that didn't help either. It's odd, imo... Portage shouldn't really consider masked packages for updates, but in this case I can't seem to get it to stop. I was also wondering if it was a bug, and in what (KDE, Portage... something). It seems to me that the devs have done this before (put a package in the tree just before it was available, masked), and I can't figure out why its not working this time the way it has in the past. If its something I've done, I can't figure out what But I've been busy, so I've only had time to be annoyed by it, not investigate it. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE programs starts slowly
On Sunday 29 January 2006 13:46, Korondi Márk wrote: kill kdm and rm all the ICE, ksycoca and .dcop .X11-blabla stuff? I don't use kdm. Probably it's the problem? ;-) After rm -R /tmp/* the problem isn't solved... :-( remove those files from user directory; maybe .xsession-errors has some interesting info; my experience with slow KDE has been when /etc/fonts/ contents missconfigured and also i would check is DMA enabled m -- Linux 2.6.15-ck2 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ 14:09:38 up 10:42, 5 users, load average: 1.04, 1.08, 1.11 pgp6xlFNkEiQU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED: DHCP Timeouts
On 19:29 Sat 28 Jan , fire-eyes wrote: fire-eyes wrote: I am having problems with dhcp on my wireless interface. Which is confusing, it worked fine before. It just times out. If I assign everything manually, there are no issues. Some ask if it's because association with the AP is taking too long, but I know it is not that, because I am manually starting wpa_supplicant (which fails in gentoo init scripts for some reason, looks like it's being called wrong). And that takes care of the association. So confused... Looks like I got it... Further investigation showed that dhcpcd was requesting 192.168.1.103 , when it had 1.100 before. I force it to request .100 and it immediately worked... Anyone know what that was all about? If you are using dnsmasq, note from the man page: -K, --dhcp-authoritative Should be set when dnsmasq is definatively the only DHCP server on a network. It changes the be- haviour from strict RFC compliance so that DHCP requests on unknown leases from unknown hosts are not ignored. This allows new hosts to get a lease without a tedious timeout under all circum- stances. Good luck. Bill Roberts pgpTYBCHOs7fi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE programs starts slowly
On Sunday 29 January 2006 13:14, Martins Steinbergs wrote: remove those files from user directory; I removed, even I tried with a new user, the problem is the same maybe .xsession-errors has some interesting info; Yes, it's interesting, but no .xsession-errors exists. Previous gentoo had it. my experience with slow KDE has been when /etc/fonts/ contents could be? KDE set it's font configuration from xorg.conf, doesn't? ... also i would check is DMA enabled linfinite kmarc # hdparm /dev/hdb /dev/hdb: multcount= 16 (on) IO_support = 3 (32-bit w/sync) unmaskirq= 1 (on) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead= 64 (on) geometry = 16383/255/63, sectors = 120060444672, start = 0 So, sorry if I'd asked badly, but I think you misunderstand me... :-$ Programs that don't use KDE (gftp, firefox, bittorrent, gtk-demo) run up fast, and fast, even also openoffice.org. I think, there is a problem with the dcop interface, the communication between some KDE apps. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE programs starts slowly
U, please, look at this: I touched .xsession-errors. Then run up KDE. .xsession-errors says (ungrep the QT-locale-blabla line): [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ grep -v 'Qt: Locales not supported on X server' .xsession-errors xset: bad font path element (#158), possible causes are: Directory does not exist or has wrong permissions Directory missing fonts.dir Incorrect font server address or syntax startkde: Starting up... kbuildsycoca running... kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3/kcm_kdnssd.so: undefined symbol: init_kdnssd QFont::setPointSize: Point size = 0 (-3) QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image Uh oh.. can't write data.. QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range QDateTime::fromString: Parameter out of range kwin: X_SetInputFocus(0x1a5): BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 QGArray::find: Index 0 out of range MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 MNG error 1029: Chunk out of sequence; chunk TERM; subcode 0:0 kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7: undefined symbol: PKCS7_content_free kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7: undefined symbol: OpenSSL_add_all_algorithms kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7:
[gentoo-user] Interpret characters in /etc/inputrc
The help documentation for /etc/inputrc is found in`man 3 readline' under section INITIALIZATION FILE and is quite extensive. However I don't see any info regarding how to interpret the characters used in /etc/inputrc. Things like: # for linux console and RH/Debian xterm \e[1~: beginning-of-line \e[4~: end-of-line #\e[5~: beginning-of-history #\e[6~: end-of-history \e[5~: history-search-backward \e[6~: history-search-forward \e[3~: delete-char \e[2~: quoted-insert I happen to know what some of those are from use but how can I tell what characters are being referred to, that is, what does: \e[2~ mean in plain english? I've seen a table somewhere that tells how to read that notation but can't remember where. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sound problem
Ian wrote: This is kind of along the same line of alsa mixer. I use kde and fluxbox, but kde's stupid sound daemon wont let some apps have sound, such as audacity or firefox. When I use Fluxbox, the sound works, but _every_ time I boot my computer into Fluxbox, I must unmute and level up all of my sounds. Is there any way to save the configuration past your session? Thanks! ~Ian adjust the volumes, and run (under root) /etc/init.t/alsasound save or alsactl -f /etc/asound.state save or you can set SAVE_ON_STOP=yes in /etc/conf.d/alsasound to save volumes on every shutdown all of these require that you have alsasound started at boot yoyo -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wrong time on reboot. Not a CMOS battery problem.
Abhay Kedia wrote: Also, should I enable RTC in my kernel? As seen from the debug output, hwclock works fine without it. But maybe some other programs have some use for it, I don't know, here it is off. I am also using HPET in my kernel. Can I use both these features? Do they clash with each other? If they would clash, then it shouldn't be possible to select them both. But do you use HPET? If not, then I would disable it. Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] PHP upgrade breaks Squirrelmail
Hi, I have just done a PHP-4 to PHP-5 upgrade and as far as I can see everything works as it should - except Squirrelmail. When I try to send a message in Squirrelmail and I Sign or Encrypt the message the following error occurres: Fatal error: Call to undefined function ctype_print() in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/squirrelmail/plugins/gpg/gpg_hook_functions.php on line 842 I have searched the net but have not found anything usefull. Any suggestions? -- Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! *** pgplsOuvZZqBD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:56:17 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: Just as a note, there doesn't seem to be a choice in this regard (i.e., you have to add kdewhatever-3.5.1 to package.unmask). If I don't add it to package.unmask, I get a halt from Portage because some of the dependent packages that [ nomerge ] packages want to emerge are masked. 3.5.0 packages should satisfy any such dependencies. Of course, if both 3.5.0 and 3.5.1 are masked in one way or another, portage's message will probably refer to the latest version. Putting 3.5.0* package versions in package.keywords should be sufficient. i've certainly not had anything demand a 3.5.1 package on three very different (but all ~arch) boxes. -- Neil Bothwick Scotty! I've fallen and I can't beam up!! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] uname -a question
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:30:42 -0500, Ernie Schroder wrote: What are using to build these kernels? using the typical change symlink copy over .config, make oldconfig make make modules_installcp arch etc. Obviously, I made a typo last upgrade but I can't figure out how to fix it now. What does grep VERSION /usr/src/linux/.config return? -- Neil Bothwick Never drink coffee that's been anywhere near a fish. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] uname -a question
On Sunday 29 January 2006 10:02, a tiny voice compelled Neil Bothwick to write: On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:30:42 -0500, Ernie Schroder wrote: What are using to build these kernels? using the typical change symlink copy over .config, make oldconfig make make modules_installcp arch etc. Obviously, I made a typo last upgrade but I can't figure out how to fix it now. What does grep VERSION /usr/src/linux/.config return? $ grep VERSION /usr/src/linux/.config CONFIG_LOCALVERSION=2.6.14-r-4_new Hmm that seems to be it. It would appear that I have to rebuild the kernel with appropriate version descriptor. I used my old config and added the 2.6.14-r4-new string when I built that kernel. I guess I'll just live with it until I build another one. Thanks Neil. -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] uname -a question
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:33:39 -0500, Ernie Schroder wrote: $ grep VERSION /usr/src/linux/.config CONFIG_LOCALVERSION=2.6.14-r-4_new Hmm that seems to be it. It would appear that I have to rebuild the kernel with appropriate version descriptor. I used my old config and added the 2.6.14-r4-new string when I built that kernel. You need to set it to , but it's not critical for now. -- Neil Bothwick Veni, vermini, vomui I came, I got ratted, I threw up signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge strace fails
On Saturday 28 January 2006 14:21, a tiny voice compelled Ernie Schroder to write: emerge strace fails with the following errors: (updating a couple of packages since I first got these errors was successful) resource.c:478: error: `Q_SETUSE' undeclared here (not in a function) resource.c:478: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:478: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[4].val') resource.c:478: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:478: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[4]') resource.c:479: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:479: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[5]') resource.c:480: error: `Q_SETQLIM' undeclared here (not in a function) resource.c:480: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:480: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[6].val') resource.c:480: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:480: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[6]') resource.c:481: error: `Q_GETSTATS' undeclared here (not in a function) resource.c:481: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:481: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[7].val') resource.c:481: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:481: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[7]') resource.c:482: error: `Q_RSQUASH' undeclared here (not in a function) resource.c:482: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:482: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[8].val') resource.c:482: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:482: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[8]') resource.c:483: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:483: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[9]') resource.c:484: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:484: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[10]') resource.c:485: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:485: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[11]') resource.c:486: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:486: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[12]') resource.c:487: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:487: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[13]') resource.c:488: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:488: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[14]') resource.c:489: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:489: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[15]') resource.c:490: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:490: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[16]') resource.c:491: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:491: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[17]') resource.c:492: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:492: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[18]') resource.c:493: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:493: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[19]') resource.c:494: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:494: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[20]') resource.c:495: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:495: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[21]') resource.c:496: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:496: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[22]') resource.c:497: error: initializer element is not constant resource.c:497: error: (near initialization for `quotacmds[23]') resource.c: In function `sys_quotactl': resource.c:538: warning: unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 2) resource.c:539: warning: unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 2) resource.c:540: error: structure has no member named `dqb_curblocks' resource.c:541: warning: unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 2) resource.c:542: warning: unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 2) resource.c:543: warning: unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 2) resource.c:544: warning: long unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 2) resource.c:545: warning: long unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 2) make[1]: *** [resource.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/strace-4.5.11/work/strace-4.5.11' make: *** [all] Error 2 !!! ERROR: dev-util/strace-4.5.11 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 566, Exitcode 2 !!! emake failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. emerge --info Portage 2.0.54 (default-linux/x86/2005.0, gcc-3.4.4, glibc-2.3.6-r2, 2.6.15-gentoo-r12.6.14-r-4_new i686) = System uname: 2.6.15-gentoo-r12.6.14-r-4_new i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14 dev-lang/python: 2.4.2 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.12 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r6 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1,
Re: [gentoo-user] uname -a question
On Sunday 29 January 2006 11:29, a tiny voice compelled Neil Bothwick to write: On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:33:39 -0500, Ernie Schroder wrote: $ grep VERSION /usr/src/linux/.config CONFIG_LOCALVERSION=2.6.14-r-4_new Hmm that seems to be it. It would appear that I have to rebuild the kernel with appropriate version descriptor. I used my old config and added the 2.6.14-r4-new string when I built that kernel. You need to set it to , but it's not critical for now. So true! I am annoyed by this but as far as I can see, the only way to get rid of the string is to rebuild my kernel. I guess I'll wait for the next version bump. -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Are multiple emerges safe?
On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 01:02 -1000, Beau E. Cox wrote: On Sunday 29 January 2006 12:56 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: Beau E. Cox wrote: Can I safely emerge (different packages, non-interdependent) in different terminal sessions at the same time? Yes, I do all that all the time. Alexander Skwar -- Espy we need to split main intocore and wtf-uses-this Thanks. I've been waiting on a veeery long emerge. -- Aloha = Beau; Keep in mind though that multiple emerges will share resources, so each process may lose speed... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: Dead key on keyboard diagnostic?
Hello, I think my 'delete' key has quite working on a portable. Any programs or tricks for diagnosis the problem ? The 'delete' key does not work in any application or on the cli. It be nice to be able to check out other keys (special function) with some sort of diagnostic tool. Any ideas? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] artsd using a TON of memory
On 29 January 2006 13:13, Dale wrote: If I kill artsd how do I restart it? Actually, you can got the Control Center - Sound Muldimedia - Sound System. You switch it off and then on again. ;-) Maybe they will phase it out later on. It will not make it into KDE 4. The main developper dropped out. Uwe -- Unix is sexy: who | grep -i blonde | date cd ~; unzip; touch; strip; finger mount; gasp; yes; uptime; umount sleep -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] xorg-server-7.0.0-rc1: Cannot switch to VC's
I just upgraded to xorg-server-7.0.0-rc1, and I can now no longer switch to VC's. I used to be able to do this by holding ctl-alt and pressing F1, for example. Does anyone out there happen to know how I can once again do this? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Are multiple emerges safe?
On Sunday 29 January 2006 06:53 am, Michael Sullivan wrote: On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 01:02 -1000, Beau E. Cox wrote: On Sunday 29 January 2006 12:56 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: Beau E. Cox wrote: Can I safely emerge (different packages, non-interdependent) in different terminal sessions at the same time? Yes, I do all that all the time. Alexander Skwar -- Espy we need to split main intocore and wtf-uses-this Thanks. I've been waiting on a veeery long emerge. -- Aloha = Beau; Keep in mind though that multiple emerges will share resources, so each process may lose speed... Yes. But when an emerge (ghc - haskell - in my case) is taking *hours* to finish, it's nice to know that I can fire up another one... :) -- Aloha = Beau; -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] xorg-x11-7.0.0-r1: Can't load glx module with radeon driver
Yee haw. I'm using xorg-x11-7.0.0-r1. I am using their radeon driver, and trying to get glx to load. It is my understanding that it now has 3d support (glx). However when I try to start glxgears, I get this: $ glxgears Xlib: extension GLX missing on display :0.0. Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual And the following in logs: # grep -e (WW) -e (EE) /var/log/Xorg.0.log (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (WW) Warning, couldn't open module glx (EE) Failed to load module glx (module does not exist, 0) (WW) RADEON(0): Failed to detect secondary monitor, MergedFB/Clone mode disabled (WW) RADEON(0): Enabling DRM support (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled (WW) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap So I don't really understand what's going on. Any ideas out there? I do NOT want to continue using ati's own driver (fglrx), it is riddled with problems. The whole reason I went to xorg 7 is because of it's new ati drivers with 3d support. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server-7.0.0-rc1: Cannot switch to VC's
On Sunday 29 January 2006 18:11, fire-eyes wrote: I just upgraded to xorg-server-7.0.0-rc1, and I can now no longer switch to VC's. I used to be able to do this by holding ctl-alt and pressing F1, for example. Does anyone out there happen to know how I can once again do this? well, I can switrch around without problems. Any changes to your xorg.conf? Is the keyboard driver installed? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server-7.0.0-rc1: Cannot switch to VC's
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Sunday 29 January 2006 18:11, fire-eyes wrote: I just upgraded to xorg-server-7.0.0-rc1, and I can now no longer switch to VC's. I used to be able to do this by holding ctl-alt and pressing F1, for example. Does anyone out there happen to know how I can once again do this? well, I can switrch around without problems. Any changes to your xorg.conf? Is the keyboard driver installed? Well, i generated a new config with X -config and used that. Might you post your xorg.conf ? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] USER ERROR: xorg-x11-7.0.0-r1: Can't load glx module with radeon driver
fire-eyes wrote: Yee haw. I'm using xorg-x11-7.0.0-r1. I am using their radeon driver, and trying to get glx to load. It is my understanding that it now has 3d support (glx). However when I try to start glxgears, I get this: $ glxgears Xlib: extension GLX missing on display :0.0. Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual And the following in logs: # grep -e (WW) -e (EE) /var/log/Xorg.0.log (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (WW) Warning, couldn't open module glx (EE) Failed to load module glx (module does not exist, 0) (WW) RADEON(0): Failed to detect secondary monitor, MergedFB/Clone mode disabled (WW) RADEON(0): Enabling DRM support (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled (WW) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap So I don't really understand what's going on. Any ideas out there? I do NOT want to continue using ati's own driver (fglrx), it is riddled with problems. The whole reason I went to xorg 7 is because of it's new ati drivers with 3d support. Looks like I was wrong: RV370 Radeon X300, M22 (2d only) *sigh* oh well at least i moved to xorg-7 rather cleanly... Driver works damn good on 2d though that's for sure. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT - Question about new bash
I wrote a script a long time ago for resizing pictures uploaded to a certain directory on my server box. The script was supposed to check to see if any JPG files in the directory had not been resized, and if they hadn't, it was supposed to resize them. It did some other stuff, but that was the important thing. It worked fine until the recent bash upgrade and now it gives me an error. Here is the script: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat system/resizepics #!/bin/bash OLD_DIR=$PWD cd /home/michael/unfiledPics if [ ! -d current ]; then mkdir -p current/mini fi if [ ! `ls -l | wc -l` -le 2 ]; then for x in *.JPG; do if [ ! -e current/$x ]; then convert $x -thumbnail 200x200 -verbose current/mini/mini-$x convert $x -thumbnail 640x480 -verbose current/$x; fi done fi if [ `ls -l | wc -l` -ge 12 ]; then today=`date '+%m%d%y'` mv current $today mv $today /home/michael/webspace/html/camera mkdir -p /home/michael/unfiledPics/current/mini rm /home/michael/unfiledPics/*.JPG fi cd $OLD_DIR As I said, before the bash upgrade this worked perfectly. Now, when I try to run it, I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ system/resizepics system/resizepics: line 11: [: too many arguments system/resizepics: line 11: [: too many arguments The error is printed twice because there are two .JPG being checked, but I'm not sure why the error is occurring in the first place. Line 11 says: if [ ! -e current/$x ]; then This used to mean if a file named current/whatever $x is does not exist, then execute the following block, but it keeps tripping on this line. Was the -e switch deprecated or something? What should it be? If it matters, my /bin/bash version is [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ bash --version GNU bash, version 3.00.16(1)-release (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. Please help! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Question about new bash
Michael Sullivan wrote: I wrote a script a long time ago for resizing pictures uploaded to a certain directory on my server box. The script was supposed to check to see if any JPG files in the directory had not been resized, and if they hadn't, it was supposed to resize them. It did some other stuff, but that was the important thing. It worked fine until the recent bash upgrade and now it gives me an error. Here is the script: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat system/resizepics #!/bin/bash OLD_DIR=$PWD cd /home/michael/unfiledPics if [ ! -d current ]; then mkdir -p current/mini fi if [ ! `ls -l | wc -l` -le 2 ]; then for x in *.JPG; do if [ ! -e current/$x ]; then convert $x -thumbnail 200x200 -verbose current/mini/mini-$x convert $x -thumbnail 640x480 -verbose current/$x; fi done fi if [ `ls -l | wc -l` -ge 12 ]; then today=`date '+%m%d%y'` mv current $today mv $today /home/michael/webspace/html/camera mkdir -p /home/michael/unfiledPics/current/mini rm /home/michael/unfiledPics/*.JPG fi cd $OLD_DIR As I said, before the bash upgrade this worked perfectly. Now, when I try to run it, I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ system/resizepics system/resizepics: line 11: [: too many arguments system/resizepics: line 11: [: too many arguments The error is printed twice because there are two .JPG being checked, but I'm not sure why the error is occurring in the first place. Line 11 says: if [ ! -e current/$x ]; then This used to mean if a file named current/whatever $x is does not exist, then execute the following block, but it keeps tripping on this line. Was the -e switch deprecated or something? What should it be? If it matters, my /bin/bash version is [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ bash --version GNU bash, version 3.00.16(1)-release (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. Please help! I'm not sure myself, but a better place to ask might be freenode's #bash ;) Good luck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Portage
Portage -2.1_pra4-r1 has a new dependency of dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1, anyone know why? I only askbecausi it is new and nothing else (on this box) depends on it, so I wondered what it would break. -- Big Tone -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Question about new bash
Hi, for x in *.JPG; doif [ ! -e current/$x ]; then I can't see anything wrong with this in particular, one thing that springs to mind is to quote the string that you are testing: for x in *.JPG; do if [ ! -e current/$x ]; then Hope that helps
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
Neil Bothwick schreef: On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:56:17 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: Just as a note, there doesn't seem to be a choice in this regard (i.e., you have to add kdewhatever-3.5.1 to package.unmask). If I don't add it to package.unmask, I get a halt from Portage because some of the dependent packages that [ nomerge ] packages want to emerge are masked. 3.5.0 packages should satisfy any such dependencies. Of course, if both 3.5.0 and 3.5.1 are masked in one way or another, portage's message will probably refer to the latest version. Putting 3.5.0* package versions in package.keywords should be sufficient. i've certainly not had anything demand a 3.5.1 package on three very different (but all ~arch) boxes. I'm also running ~x86, and kdelibs and kdebase-kioslaves 3.5.0 (the packages I'm having problems with) are currently installed. But if I do an emerge -uaD(N)tv world, krusader (because it is compiled with konqueror support, so it depends on Konq), and something else I forget (oh, it was knowit, but I uninstalled that, in an effort to solve this problem), demand to upgrade kdelibs and kioslaves to the masked versions (which should not be available). And of course, if Portage finds that something necessary is masked, it stops dead. Adding the two packages to packages.unmask at least allows the emerge to proceed, though of course I have to hang about in order to skipfirst, due to the two unavailable tarballs. Not that I have any particular desire to upgrade these packages to 3.5.1, but Portage wants to make me, for some reason. In any case, I don't so much want to hijack the thread (actually, I don't want to hijack the thread at all), but if this is a 'general' problem of some sort (which seems amazing, but I have no other explanation for the bizarre behaviour that both I and the OP seem to be seeing), I wanted to mention. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server-7.0.0-rc1: Cannot switch to VC's
On Sunday 29 January 2006 18:36, fire-eyes wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Sunday 29 January 2006 18:11, fire-eyes wrote: I just upgraded to xorg-server-7.0.0-rc1, and I can now no longer switch to VC's. I used to be able to do this by holding ctl-alt and pressing F1, for example. Does anyone out there happen to know how I can once again do this? well, I can switrch around without problems. Any changes to your xorg.conf? Is the keyboard driver installed? Well, i generated a new config with X -config and used that. Might you post your xorg.conf ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf # Section Module # This loads the DBE extension module. Loaddbe # Double buffer extension Loadextmod Loadtype1 Loadspeedo Loadfreetype #Loadxtt Load glx Loadv4l Loadddc EndSection Section Extensions Option Composite Enable EndSection # ** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ** Section Files FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/local/ #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Speedo/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TrueType/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/freefont/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/sharefonts/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/corefonts/ EndSection # ** # Server flags section. # ** Section ServerFlags EndSection # ** # Input devices # ** # ** # Core keyboard's InputDevice section # ** Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard1 Driver kbd Option AutoRepeat 500 30 Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc102 Option XkbLayout de EndSection # ** # Core Pointer's InputDevice section # ** Section InputDevice # Identifier and driver Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option ProtocolIMPS/2 Option Device /dev/input/mice Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection # ** # Monitor section # ** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section Monitor Identifier ibm HorizSync 31.5-96 VertRefresh 50-85 Option dpms EndSection # ** # Graphics device section # ** Section Device Identifier 6600 Driver nvidia #VideoRam131072 # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate Option RenderAccel true Option AllowGLXWithComposite true Option backingstore true # Option XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps true EndSection # ** # Screen sections # ** # Any number of screen sections may be present. Each describes # the configuration of a single screen. A single specific screen section # may be specified from the X server command line with the -screen # option. Section Screen Identifier Screen 1 Device 6600 Monitor ibm DefaultDepth 24 Subsection Display Depth 8 Modes 1280x960 1024x768 800x600 640x480 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 16 Modes 1280x960 1024x768 800x600 640x480 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x960 1024x768 800x600 640x480 640x400 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection Section ServerLayout # The Identifier line must be present Identifier Simple Layout Screen Screen 1 InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard EndSection -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Are multiple emerges safe?
Michael Sullivan wrote: Keep in mind though that multiple emerges will share resources, so each process may lose speed... Something that I always wondered about - does it actually *lose* speed? IOW: Is it, *IN* *TOTAL* slower to do multiple emerges in parallel compared to doing them sequentially? Alexander Skwar -- The savior becomes the victim. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Question about new bash [SOLVED]
On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 18:05 +, znx wrote: Hi, for x in *.JPG; do if [ ! -e current/$x ]; then I can't see anything wrong with this in particular, one thing that springs to mind is to quote the string that you are testing: for x in *.JPG; do if [ ! -e current/$x ]; then Hope that helps Yep, that worked! Thanks! Hmm, I wonder why it worked before? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Question about new bash
Michael Sullivan wrote: As I said, before the bash upgrade this worked perfectly. Now, when I try to run it, I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ system/resizepics system/resizepics: line 11: [: too many arguments system/resizepics: line 11: [: too many arguments I don't get this error, when I run your script. How are the files named? Do they have spaces in the file name? If so - and even if not - I'd *STRONGLY* suggest to enclose current/$x in quotes, like so: if [ ! -e current/$x ]; then Alexander Skwar -- R Tape loading error, 0:1 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server-7.0.0-rc1: Cannot switch to VC's
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Sunday 29 January 2006 18:36, fire-eyes wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Sunday 29 January 2006 18:11, fire-eyes wrote: I just upgraded to xorg-server-7.0.0-rc1, and I can now no longer switch to VC's. I used to be able to do this by holding ctl-alt and pressing F1, for example. Does anyone out there happen to know how I can once again do this? well, I can switrch around without problems. Any changes to your xorg.conf? Is the keyboard driver installed? Well, i generated a new config with X -config and used that. Might you post your xorg.conf ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf # Section Module # This loads the DBE extension module. [SNIP] Curious, I don't see anything that would allow you to switch and not me... Thank you for posting. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage
On (29/01/06 17:57), Tony Davison wrote: Portage -2.1_pra4-r1 has a new dependency of dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1, anyone know why? I only askbecausi it is new and nothing else (on this box) depends on it, so I wondered what it would break. -- Big Tone -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi, Not very sure, but maybe because of digital signatures implementation in portage. Or rather a reimplementation (there is such but not finished IMHO). HTH.Rumen pgpoRbXF1UJv0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS -- fails better!
--- Manuel A. McLure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 23 January 2006 07:20 pm, maxim wexler wrote: This time the printer whirred to life printed the first line of text across the very top of the paper then quit with the orange error light blinking. BTW, this is a DeskJet 612C using the hpijs driver. What I expect is happening is that the text file has only linefeeds (\n or ASCII 0x0a) instead of carriage return/linefeed (\r\n or ASCII 0x0d 0x0a) so the head is never getting the command to go back to the start of the line and the line length overflows. This is one reason why raw printing can be a problem. What you really want is a queue that merely replaces \n with \r\n instead of a true raw queue. CUPS does not seem to provide this, instead preferring to convert to postscript and then to raster. Personally I don't see this as a problem, but your needs are probably different than mine. One option to solve this is to emerge unix2dos and use the following command line: unix2dos filetoprint.txt | lp -l After removing and re-installing cups and installing unix2dos got this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ unix2dos environment | lpr -l unix2dos: converting file environment to DOS format ... unix2dos: problems converting file environment lpr: error - scheduler not responding! I was sure it was because I had neglected to go to localhost631 first but trying to open the page in firefox got connection refused error. Only thing that comes to mind is that when I did emerge -pv cups it said some file(can't recall which) was being blocked by xpdf which I don't use so I removed it and cups went in OK. Long shot. -- Manuel A. McLure KE6TAW [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mclure.org ...for in Ulthar, according to an ancient and significant law, no man may kill a cat. -- H.P. Lovecraft -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Are multiple emerges safe?
Alexander Skwar wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: Keep in mind though that multiple emerges will share resources, so each process may lose speed... Something that I always wondered about - does it actually *lose* speed? IOW: Is it, *IN* *TOTAL* slower to do multiple emerges in parallel compared to doing them sequentially? Alexander Skwar I'm no guru for sure but here is my $.02 worth. Let's say emerge one takes ten minutes and emerge two takes 30 minutes. If you have a single CPU machine I would think that if both were started at the same time, the both of them would take 40 minutes. So in my theory, emerge one emerge two should be the same as doing seperately. Of course, emerge one would finish first but while emerge one is working it will slow down emerge two as well. This is assuming they have the same nice settings of course. Now if you have a dually or quad CPU rig, that may vary depending on the compile times and a few other things. I would also think that one emerge would speed up the compile for example when the other is waiting on the data to/from a drive as well. So it may make it a little faster. I wonder of there is a good way to measure this. My worthless $0.02 worth. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS -- fails better!
Only thing that comes to mind is that when I did emerge -pv cups it said some file(can't recall which) was being blocked by xpdf which I don't use so I removed it and cups went in OK. Long shot. It was poppler. googling cups + poppler revealed this: http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/glsa/glsa-200512-08.xml?style=printable Have I swapped one problem for another? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Question about new bash [SOLVED]
Michael Sullivan wrote: for x in *.JPG; do if [ ! -e current/$x ]; then Hope that helps Yep, that worked! Thanks! Hmm, I wonder why it worked before? Perhaps you got some file named: hey I am a long file name with spaces.jpg ;) -- Norberto Bensa Ciudad de Buenos Aires, Argentina -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Dead key on keyboard diagnostic?
James wrote: I think my 'delete' key has quite working on a portable. Any programs or tricks for diagnosis the problem ? Switch to a VT and run 'showkey' to see whether it still produces scan codes. Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Are multiple emerges safe?
Andrei Slavoiu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A very useful application for this is to do something like this: in one console start `emerge -f kde` and in another `emerge kde`. The first will just download the files needed and the second will compile them. Or just add parallel-fetch to FEATURES in /etc/make.conf (This feature is new and does not seem to be well documented, I read it on a Forum and have not had chance to use is yet !) -- Simon Kellett,| Gentoo Linux, Fvwm, Firefox Darmstadt, Germany| Xemacs, Vm, Gnus -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server-7.0.0-rc1: Cannot switch to VC's
On Sunday 29 January 2006 19:44, fire-eyes wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Sunday 29 January 2006 18:36, fire-eyes wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Sunday 29 January 2006 18:11, fire-eyes wrote: I just upgraded to xorg-server-7.0.0-rc1, and I can now no longer switch to VC's. I used to be able to do this by holding ctl-alt and pressing F1, for example. Does anyone out there happen to know how I can once again do this? well, I can switrch around without problems. Any changes to your xorg.conf? Is the keyboard driver installed? Well, i generated a new config with X -config and used that. Might you post your xorg.conf ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf # Section Module # This loads the DBE extension module. [SNIP] Curious, I don't see anything that would allow you to switch and not me... Thank you for posting. do you have x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard Latest version available: 1.0.1.3 Latest version installed: 1.0.1.3 installed? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Are multiple emerges safe?
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 19:26:41 +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: Something that I always wondered about - does it actually *lose* speed? IOW: Is it, *IN* *TOTAL* slower to do multiple emerges in parallel compared to doing them sequentially? It could be faster, when one emerge is in a CPU-intensive stage while another is in an I/O-intensive stage. At that point, the computer would be working harder than on either emerge individually. -- Neil Bothwick I have plenty of talent and vision. I just don't give a damn. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Are multiple emerges safe?
At Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:03:19 -0600 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Skwar wrote: Something that I always wondered about - does it actually *lose* speed? IOW: Is it, *IN* *TOTAL* slower to do multiple emerges in parallel compared to doing them sequentially? I'm no guru for sure but here is my $.02 worth. Let's say emerge one takes ten minutes and emerge two takes 30 minutes. If you have a single CPU machine I would think that if both were started at the same time, the both of them would take 40 minutes. So in my theory, emerge one emerge two should be the same as doing seperately. It is more complicated than that. 1. A single CPU machine most likely has a DMA I/O controller and hence more than one action can be concurrent. 2. I/O itself causes long delays while the disk is active, with a second emerge (or any other processor) the CPU can be concurrent with this delay. These two argue for the concurrent emerges to be faster, but 3. The context switching between processes is not free and adds CPU (at least) requirements to the concurrent emerge situation. 4. The concurrent invocation increases the cache pressure (i.e., demand) which most likely increases the cache miss rate. 5. Similarly for the buffer cache. etc allan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Are multiple emerges safe?
Simon Kellett wrote: Or just add parallel-fetch to FEATURES in /etc/make.conf What is it supposed to do? Alexander Skwar -- Experiments must be reproducible; they should all fail in the same way. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: X USE flag - what does it do?
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: build R ] media-video/vlc-0.8.4a USE=alsa arts cdda dvd esd ffmpeg matroska mp3 mpeg nls nsplugin ogg real vlm vorbis win32codecs wxwindows xml2 xv -3dfx -X -a52 -aac -aalib -avahi -bidi -corba -daap -debug -dts -dvb -fbcon -flac -ggi -gnutls -hal -httpd -joystick -libcaca -lirc -live -mod -ncurses -opengl -oss -png -samba -screen -sdl -shout -skins -speex -stream -svg -svga -theora -truetype -v4l -vcd -xinerama -xosd 0 kB As you can see, I built vlc with USE=-X. What am I now missing? When I startup vlc, I still have a X GUI. Sorry: I can not answer your question, but there is an error in your reasoning (I think). I assume the output above is from emerge -pv ? If so then I think it is NOT showing you the flags that *were* used to emerge the package, but the flags that *will* be used if you do a new (re)emerge. This will be different, for example, if you changed something in /etc/portage, or set flags on the command line for the previous emerge. -- Simon Kellett,| Gentoo Linux, Fvwm, Firefox Darmstadt, Germany| Xemacs, Vm, Gnus -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X USE flag - what does it do?
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 20:36:50 +0100, Simon Kellett wrote: Sorry: I can not answer your question, but there is an error in your reasoning (I think). I assume the output above is from emerge -pv ? If so then I think it is NOT showing you the flags that *were* used to emerge the package, but the flags that *will* be used if you do a new (re)emerge. This will be different, for example, if you changed something in /etc/portage, or set flags on the command line for the previous emerge. Any changed flags will have a * after them. -- Neil Bothwick I thought I saw the light at the end of the tunnel... but it was just some sod with a torch bringing me more work! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 19:08:11 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: I'm also running ~x86, and kdelibs and kdebase-kioslaves 3.5.0 (the packages I'm having problems with) are currently installed. But if I do an emerge -uaD(N)tv world, krusader (because it is compiled with konqueror support, so it depends on Konq), and something else I forget (oh, it was knowit, but I uninstalled that, in an effort to solve this problem), demand to upgrade kdelibs and kioslaves to the masked versions (which should not be available). That's odd. Krusader doesn't want anything masked here. # emerge krusader -pv These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] kde-misc/krusader-1.70.0_beta2 USE=-arts -debug -javascript kde -xinerama 0 kB Are you sure you don't have any KDE packages in package.unmask? -- Neil Bothwick Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and try again. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] x11-drivers/ati-drivers and latest kernel (stable)
Has anybody had any luck with x11-drivers/ati-drivers and the latest stable kernel gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r1? I have been using the latest stable ati-drivers (8.14.13-r3) with gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 for a few months and it has been absolutely stable. Now a hal update seems to need at least 2.6.13, so I emerged and built 2.6.15-r1, and rebuilt all modules for it. Well, ati-drivers throws a kernel stack dump when X11 starts, so I guess there's some kind of incompatibility. Then I emerged the latest ~x86 ati-drivers (8.21.7), which seems to work at first sight, but hangs when I logout. Actually, kdm starts the first time, but hangs after the logout. I am still able to login by ssh, though. The symptoms are pretty similar to a few bugs on b.g.o not yet solved. Any insights would be greatly appreciated (or working combinations of kernel and driver versions). -- Remy Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] X USE flag - what does it do?
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:12:45 +0100
Alexander Skwar wrote:
Hi!
Quite a number of packages support a X USE flag. The
package that I'm right now looking at is vlc:
[ebuild R ] media-video/vlc-0.8.4a USE=alsa arts cdda dvd esd ffmpeg
matroska mp3 mpeg nls nsplugin ogg real vlm vorbis win32codecs wxwindows
xml2 xv -3dfx -X -a52 -aac -aalib -avahi -bidi -corba -daap -debug -dts -dvb
-fbcon -flac -ggi -gnutls -hal -httpd -joystick -libcaca -lirc -live -mod
-ncurses -opengl -oss -png -samba -screen -sdl -shout -skins -speex -stream
-svg -svga -theora -truetype -v4l -vcd -xinerama -xosd 0 kB
As you can see, I built vlc with USE=-X. What am I
now missing? When I startup vlc, I still have a X
GUI.
I suspect that something else has dragged in the gui part of glc -
wxwindows IIRC.
A different example - gnupg:
[ebuild R ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.2-r3 USE=X caps* ecc* idea* nls
readline static* usb zlib -bzip2* -curl* -ldap -smartcard 21 kB
As you can see here, gnupg is built with the flag X set.
What has been enabled with that?
A global use flag like X has different effects on different packages.
Ususally it affects whether or not an X gui is built. However the only
wat to really tell is to read the ebuild. In this case:
RDEPEND=!static? (
${COMMON_DEPEND}
X? ( || ( media-gfx/xloadimage media-gfx/xli ) )
)
selinux? ( sec-policy/selinux-gnupg )
This indicates that if the X flag is enabled, there will be a dependency on
either media-glx/xloadimage or media-gfx/xli
econf \
[snip]
$(use_enable X photo-viewers) \
[snip]
${myconf} || die
This indicates that something called photo-viewers is enabled in gnupg
if the X flag is present. What this does, i don't know (or care) and
will leave it to you to discover.
Also quite a number of libraries support X, like
[I--] [ ] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.10.1-r1 (0)
[I--] [ ] gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.12.0 (0)
[I--] [ ] gnome-base/libgtop-2.12.2 (2)
[I--] [ ] gnome-base/libglade-0.17-r6 (0)
What do all of these do with X? And what would go away
if X were disabled (-X)?
See above, look at the ebuilds.
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server-7.0.0-rc1: Cannot switch to VC's
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Sunday 29 January 2006 19:44, fire-eyes wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Sunday 29 January 2006 18:36, fire-eyes wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Sunday 29 January 2006 18:11, fire-eyes wrote: I just upgraded to xorg-server-7.0.0-rc1, and I can now no longer switch to VC's. I used to be able to do this by holding ctl-alt and pressing F1, for example. Does anyone out there happen to know how I can once again do this? well, I can switrch around without problems. Any changes to your xorg.conf? Is the keyboard driver installed? Well, i generated a new config with X -config and used that. Might you post your xorg.conf ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf # Section Module # This loads the DBE extension module. [SNIP] Curious, I don't see anything that would allow you to switch and not me... Thank you for posting. do you have x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard Latest version available: 1.0.1.3 Latest version installed: 1.0.1.3 installed? Sure do :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc version used for build?
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:09:55 -0500 Michael A. Smith wrote: gcc -v tells you what programs are invoked by gcc. gcc being a collection of compilers, this can differ quite a bit depending on your configuration. No it doesn't, it tells you how gcc was configured when it was compiled, as can be seen from your own ouput below. * # gcc -v Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/specs Configured with: /var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.4-r1/work/gcc-3.4.4/configure --prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/3.4.4 --includedir=/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/include --datadir=/usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4 --mandir=/usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/man --infodir=/usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/info --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/include/g++-v3 --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu --disable-altivec --enable-nls --without-included-gettext --with-system-zlib --disable-checking --disable-werror --disable-libunwind-exceptions --disable-multilib --disable-libgcj --enable-languages=c,c++,f77 --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu Thread model: posix gcc version 3.4.4 (Gentoo 3.4.4-r1, ssp-3.4.4-1.0, pie-8.7.8) * -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Are multiple emerges safe?
Hello, Alexander. You wrote: Keep in mind though that multiple emerges will share resources, so each process may lose speed... Something that I always wondered about - does it actually *lose* speed? IOW: Is it, *IN* *TOTAL* slower to do multiple emerges in parallel compared to doing them sequentially? Given that you have enough RAM, it may speed up things somewhat. If you do some cpu load monitoring (e.g., using 'top') you should see that cpu load during emerge process does not stay constant. There are 99% periods (usually when compiling something), and there are 1% periods (sh, grep, ldconfig, emerge itself and most notably configure). If you are installing something large (say, KDE) you can get your cpu working at 100% when one instance of emerge configures and other does actual compilation. Mind that gcc can hog up to 150-200 megabytes of RAM per source file when compiling large c++ programs (e.g., kde with kdeenablefinal USE flag), so trying parallel emerge on systems with less than 512 megs of RAM space is rather pointless. -- WBR, Alexander mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage
On Sunday 29 January 2006 18:45, Rumen Yotov wrote: On (29/01/06 17:57), Tony Davison wrote: Portage -2.1_pra4-r1 has a new dependency of dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1, anyone know why? I only askbecausi it is new and nothing else (on this box) depends on it, so I wondered what it would break. -- Big Tone -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi, Not very sure, but maybe because of digital signatures implementation in portage. Or rather a reimplementation (there is such but not finished IMHO). HTH.Rumen Cheers Rumen, I forgot about that. I blame lack of sleep and the my (apparent) daytime job fixing Redmond powered PCs, Hey, it pays the rent. I'll just go ahead and update it. -- Big Tone -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] /usr is full
Hi, While trying to run emerge today I got the message that there was not enough disk space. I ran df and noticed that /usr is 100% full. I am wonderring whether there is an easy way to clean it up. I'd rather not resize my partitions, and it's likely that there's a lot of junk in there that I don't need. Is it safe to remove the stuff in /usr/portage/distfiles? Thanks! -- Jason -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] x11-drivers/ati-drivers and latest kernel (stable)
On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 21:29 +0100, Remy Blank wrote: Has anybody had any luck with x11-drivers/ati-drivers and the latest stable kernel gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r1? snip Any insights would be greatly appreciated (or working combinations of kernel and driver versions). -- Remy This combination works fine for me: linux-2.6.14-gentoo-r5 x11-drivers/ati-drivers 8.14.13-r3 sys-apps/hal 0.5.5.1-r3 Tom Naujokas -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /usr is full
Jason W Elliot wrote: Hi, While trying to run emerge today I got the message that there was not enough disk space. I ran df and noticed that /usr is 100% full. I am wonderring whether there is an easy way to clean it up. I'd rather not resize my partitions, and it's likely that there's a lot of junk in there that I don't need. Is it safe to remove the stuff in /usr/portage/distfiles? Thanks! I can tell you how I cleaned my distfiles out. I installed http-replicator and let it clean them out. It knows what source files are no longer going to be used, to old and not in portage any more, and then you can delete the old ones. It will list them too. If you do this, don't forget to put the proxy line in make.conf and point it back to itself. Basically it moves everything to cache then you can delete the rest in distfile. If you do a emerge, it just puts them back. Sounds strange but it worked well for me. I also use it for three servers connected here on a LAN. It was a fringe benefit I guess. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] kooka copy fails to print, etc.
Hi All, I have been trying to use a CanoScan N650U scanner to copy a printed A4 sheet of corporate headed paper with some black text (a typical letter, nothing too complicated in terms of image quality). I used xsane and kooka. Xsane prints it directly, but the image is misaligned on the page (the header logo is chopped in half). It's as if the page has been zoomed into. I have selected Full Size so I don't know why this happens. Can it be adjusted - how? Kooka on the other hand scales and centers the image nicely, no manual intervention is required. However, it does not print directly but always saves the scanned image as a file. If I select it and press print an error comes up saying that it won't print because the file is 0 bytes in size. :-@ On top of all this, choosing to copy it in colour (there's a bit of colour in the company logo in the header) the page shows up in the viewer and later on prints rather dark and 'greyed out'. M$Windoze on the other hand using the Canon software prints the page much brighter with no blurring or greyed out background. I find the xsane rather complicated to set up, because I have no idea what the different settings actually do. I was hoping that the default settings would work at least as nice, if not nicer than the equivalent application in Windoze, but that is not the case. Would any kind soul be able to help with Gamma, etc. settings for xsane to work satisfactorily with this scanner. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage
On Monday 30 January 2006 02:57, Tony Davison wrote: Portage -2.1_pra4-r1 has a new dependency of dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1, anyone know why? I only askbecausi it is new and nothing else (on this box) depends on it, so I wondered what it would break. It's to support non-MD5 hashing algorithms. If you have a look at portage's Manifest, you'll see MD5, RMD160 and SHA256 hashes for all files. These are generatable and verifiable from 2.1_pre4. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /usr is full
060129 Jason W Elliot wrote: While trying to run emerge today I got the message that there was not enough disk space. I ran df and noticed that /usr is 100% full. Is it safe to remove the stuff in /usr/portage/distfiles? Yes there's a new utility to help: try 'man eclean'. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /usr is full
The only problem with this approach is that I don't have enough space to download http-replicator. I'll try this as soon as I get things somewhat cleaned-up. Thanks for the advice! -Jason On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Dale wrote: Jason W Elliot wrote: Hi, While trying to run emerge today I got the message that there was not enough disk space. I ran df and noticed that /usr is 100% full. I am wonderring whether there is an easy way to clean it up. I'd rather not resize my partitions, and it's likely that there's a lot of junk in there that I don't need. Is it safe to remove the stuff in /usr/portage/distfiles? Thanks! I can tell you how I cleaned my distfiles out. I installed http-replicator and let it clean them out. It knows what source files are no longer going to be used, to old and not in portage any more, and then you can delete the old ones. It will list them too. If you do this, don't forget to put the proxy line in make.conf and point it back to itself. Basically it moves everything to cache then you can delete the rest in distfile. If you do a emerge, it just puts them back. Sounds strange but it worked well for me. I also use it for three servers connected here on a LAN. It was a fringe benefit I guess. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Jason -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /usr is full
Thanks! This looks like exactly what I need. I'm running it right now. -Jason On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Philip Webb wrote: 060129 Jason W Elliot wrote: While trying to run emerge today I got the message that there was not enough disk space. I ran df and noticed that /usr is 100% full. Is it safe to remove the stuff in /usr/portage/distfiles? Yes there's a new utility to help: try 'man eclean'. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Jason -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS -- fails better!
On Sunday 29 January 2006 10:54, maxim wexler wrote: One option to solve this is to emerge unix2dos and use the following command line: unix2dos filetoprint.txt | lp -l After removing and re-installing cups and installing unix2dos got this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ unix2dos environment | lpr -l unix2dos: converting file environment to DOS format ... unix2dos: problems converting file environment lpr: error - scheduler not responding! I was sure it was because I had neglected to go to localhost631 first but trying to open the page in firefox got connection refused error. Only thing that comes to mind is that when I did emerge -pv cups it said some file(can't recall which) was being blocked by xpdf which I don't use so I removed it and cups went in OK. Long shot. Sounds like cups wasn't started - does /etc/init.d/cups restart show any errors? The command line to unix2dos may need to be unix2dos environment | lpr -l or cat environment | unix2dos | lpr -l -- Manuel A. McLure KE6TAW [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mclure.org ...for in Ulthar, according to an ancient and significant law, no man may kill a cat. -- H.P. Lovecraft -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] x11-drivers/ati-drivers and latest kernel (stable)
On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 21:29 +0100, Remy Blank wrote: Has anybody had any luck with x11-drivers/ati-drivers and the latest stable kernel gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r1? [snip] Then I emerged the latest ~x86 ati-drivers (8.21.7), which seems to work at first sight, but hangs when I logout. I had the display corruption on logout also (happened when I try to switch to a console or restart xdm too). After going back and forward through many version of ati-drivers, it mysteriously disappeared! I have been playing around with a lot of kernels and ati-driver versions to try and get a stable combination that gave decent frame rates. This is what I ended up with (I'm using ~x86): suspend2-sources-2.6.15-r4 ati-drivers-8.21.7 I don't have hal :) HTH, -- Iain Buchanan iain at netspace dot net dot au An aphorism is never exactly true; it is either a half-truth or one-and-a-half truths. -- Karl Kraus -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kooka copy fails to print, etc.
On Sunday 29 January 2006 18:26, a tiny voice compelled Mick to write: Hi All, I have been trying to use a CanoScan N650U scanner to copy a printed A4 sheet of corporate headed paper with some black text (a typical letter, nothing too complicated in terms of image quality). I used xsane and kooka. Xsane prints it directly, but the image is misaligned on the page (the header logo is chopped in half). It's as if the page has been zoomed into. I have selected Full Size so I don't know why this happens. Can it be adjusted - how? Kooka on the other hand scales and centers the image nicely, no manual intervention is required. However, it does not print directly but always saves the scanned image as a file. If I select it and press print an error comes up saying that it won't print because the file is 0 bytes in size. :-@ On top of all this, choosing to copy it in colour (there's a bit of colour in the company logo in the header) the page shows up in the viewer and later on prints rather dark and 'greyed out'. M$Windoze on the other hand using the Canon software prints the page much brighter with no blurring or greyed out background. I find the xsane rather complicated to set up, because I have no idea what the different settings actually do. I was hoping that the default settings would work at least as nice, if not nicer than the equivalent application in Windoze, but that is not the case. Would any kind soul be able to help with Gamma, etc. settings for xsane to work satisfactorily with this scanner. -- Regards, Mick There is a very active sane mailing list that should be able to offer some help on your scanner. http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/sane-devel -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS -- fails better!
On Sunday 29 January 2006 11:08, maxim wexler wrote: It was poppler. googling cups + poppler revealed this: http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/glsa/glsa-200512-08.xml?style=printable Have I swapped one problem for another? The GLSA shows that newer versions of poppler have the security hole fixed, so as long as you're up to date you shouldn't have an issue. -- Manuel A. McLure KE6TAW [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mclure.org ...for in Ulthar, according to an ancient and significant law, no man may kill a cat. -- H.P. Lovecraft -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
Neil Bothwick schreef: On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 19:08:11 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: I'm also running ~x86, and kdelibs and kdebase-kioslaves 3.5.0 (the packages I'm having problems with) are currently installed. But if I do an emerge -uaD(N)tv world, krusader (because it is compiled with konqueror support, so it depends on Konq), and something else I forget (oh, it was knowit, but I uninstalled that, in an effort to solve this problem), demand to upgrade kdelibs and kioslaves to the masked versions (which should not be available). That's odd. Krusader doesn't want anything masked here. # emerge krusader -pv These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] kde-misc/krusader-1.70.0_beta2 USE=-arts -debug -javascript kde -xinerama 0 kB Are you sure you don't have any KDE packages in package.unmask? Oh, I'm sorry-- I should have mentioned that I'm using the live CVS ebuild from the Krusader site, which has different USE flags: emerge -pv krusader-cvs Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] kde-misc/krusader-cvs-1-r4 USE=javascript konqueror -arts -debug -xinerama 0 kB [1] Total size of downloads: 0 kB Portage overlays: [1] /usr/local/portage ... but I found the problem. There was an old setting in /etc/portage/package.mask that needed to be cleared out (I had masked = some 3.4 version of kioslaves, for reasons that I assume were good at the time, but I totally forgot that I had ever done it, so I certainly don't remember why I had done it). Removing that enabled the profile package.mask to work normally once I removed the bogus and unnecessary /etc/portage/package.unmask settings. So that's fine then, sorry for the noise and thanks for the encouragement to get to the bottom of what I had done to screw things up (since I knew it had to be me, given that Portage really is unlikely to have gone so schizo without anyone noticing *but* me :-) ). We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread (with a possible advisory to Ian to check his little-used /etc/portage files; maybe there's a setting that you forgot you put there, as well :-) ). Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing KDE...Again.... (Now at howto install kde)
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 00:57:35 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: ... but I found the problem. There was an old setting in /etc/portage/package.mask that needed to be cleared out (I had masked = some 3.4 version of kioslaves, for reasons that I assume were good at the time, but I totally forgot that I had ever done it, so I certainly don't remember why I had done it). Removing that enabled the profile package.mask to work normally once I removed the bogus and unnecessary /etc/portage/package.unmask settings. I had a similar experience last week, because I still had a zillion =kde-base/kwhatever-3.5.0_beta1 lines in portage.unmask so it wanted to install all of KDE 3.5.1. Time for a script to check for outdated entries in the /etc/portage files. -- Neil Bothwick Modesty Becomes You. Try It More Often. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] /usr is full
Jason W Elliot wrote: Thanks! This looks like exactly what I need. I'm running it right now. -Jason On Sun, 29 Jan 2006, Philip Webb wrote: 060129 Jason W Elliot wrote: While trying to run emerge today I got the message that there was not enough disk space. I ran df and noticed that /usr is 100% full. Is it safe to remove the stuff in /usr/portage/distfiles? Yes there's a new utility to help: try 'man eclean'. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Me looking into that too. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. Named Smoker 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. Named Swifty 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 224MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. Named Pokey 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. Named Putput All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /usr is full
On Monday 30 January 2006 00:15, Jason W Elliot wrote: that I don't need. Is it safe to remove the stuff in /usr/portage/distfiles? yes. you may also have a look into localepurge. Oh, and putting portage onto reiserfs is helpfull. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Konqueror and scripts
I'm running KDE 3.4 and on some sites Konqueror pops up a dialog telling me some script is causing KHTML problems - it may freeze things up. If I hit continue Konqueror continues and all is well. Firefox handles these pages so I assume it's some setting but I haven't found it. Any ideas on what it might be. Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dead USB card?
On 1/28/06, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 28 Jan 2006, Richard Fish wrote: It looks like the ohci and ehci drivers are fighting over the card. You don't need both, so I would disable ohci in your kernel configuration and see if that works. The card has 3 USB 1.1 sockets and a 2.0 one. Isn't it necessary to enable ohci to access the 1.1 sockets? Who designed this freakish thing...Dr Frankenstein??? Anyway, since I have no knowledge of this card, I could be wrong. But I would try either the ehci or ohci driver, but not both at the same time. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE starts and runs slowly
On 1/29/06, Korondi Márk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone Yesterday I reinstalled gentoo, because I'd made the filesystem dirty (always used sudo, and installed programs not in portage randomly...) and I want a new, clean system. With Gentoo there is almost always an easier way than re-installing...but too late for that now. I install new kde (3.5.0), but there is a problem: While other programs - firefox, gftp, bittorrent - run fine, all of my programs using some kdelib or ,if I'm right, DCOP start slowly, and after starting cannot run fine. For example: KDE starts up slower than in the previous installation. Then I pick konqueror, it takes 2-3 secs. to start. Then I close, and re-exec it. 2-3 secs again (where is the cache?). BUT: KHTML starts to render the page, it hangs for 2 seconds, then begin to load. hmmm... Clicking refresh causes the same. Might be a prelinking issue...do you set KDE_IS_PRELINKED? And if so, is it really pre-linked? Running strace with the -tt option can also give you an idea of what the KDE application is doing during that 2-3 second delay. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] ... fails to open device '/dev/hda2' after update
I had the same thing happen on Friday on a VMWare I use for LAMP development. Just Control D to continue. Your drives should mount as normal. If you have a stock system, /dev/hda3 is where your goods are. Hda1 is just /boot and hda2 is swap, so don't worry about the error. Follow these instructions: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml Or http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Migrate_to_UDEV Or http://webpages.charter.net/decibelshelp/LinuxHelp_UDEVPrimer.html It's pretty painless really. -Original Message- From: Fredrik Lundgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 5:41 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] ... fails to open device '/dev/hda2' after update Dear list, I haven't used my Gentoo for more than half a year or so (it was well updated then) so the other night I made an update emerge --update system and all appeared to go well (lots of updates) but when I rebooted i got * checking root filesystem ... Failed to open the device '/dev/hda2': No such file or directory * Filesystem couldn't be fixed: (Give root password for maintenance (or Control D to continue):_ --- Well I changed to root and tried --- df Filesystem1K-blockusedAvailableUse% Mount on 35152904 8113240 2703966424%/ --- and --- fsck -t resierfs /dev/hda2 (Confirmed with Yes) Failed to open the device '/dev/hda2': No such file or directory --- The file system is there as I can use nano and navigate in the directory hierarchy and visit files. I have, in Win XP, tested the partitions with 'Acronis Disk Director Suite' and they look OK and don't have any errors. Please, how should this be fixed? Best wishes from a somewhat desperate Fredrik -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Interpret characters in /etc/inputrc
On 1/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The help documentation for /etc/inputrc is found in`man 3 readline' under section INITIALIZATION FILE and is quite extensive. However I don't see any info regarding how to interpret the characters used in /etc/inputrc. Things like: # for linux console and RH/Debian xterm \e[1~: beginning-of-line \e[4~: end-of-line #\e[5~: beginning-of-history #\e[6~: end-of-history \e[5~: history-search-backward \e[6~: history-search-forward \e[3~: delete-char \e[2~: quoted-insert I happen to know what some of those are from use but how can I tell what characters are being referred to, that is, what does: \e[2~ mean in plain english? The \e is an escape. The other chars are exactly what you see. For example, Ctrl-V will cause most terminals to print the next character exactly as seen, without interpreting it. Although there the printout for the escape character is ^[. So if on a linux console you type Ctrl+v, then hit the Delete key, you should see ^[[3~ appear on the screen. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Are multiple emerges safe?
On 1/29/06, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon Kellett wrote: Or just add parallel-fetch to FEATURES in /etc/make.confWhat is it supposed to do?Alexander Skwar--Experiments must be reproducible; they should all fail in the same way. --gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing listMy guess would be adds the ability to grab packages at the same time you're compiling; so, grab packages needed to emerge one ebuild, then while that one is compiling grab the next sources in the background. -- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] ... fails to open device '/dev/hda2' after update
On 1/28/06, Fredrik Lundgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * checking root filesystem ... Failed to open the device '/dev/hda2': No such file or directory * Filesystem couldn't be fixed: (Give root password for maintenance (or Control D to continue):_ --- Either this wasn't the problem or I mixed up the correction somehow. It appears as if the bootprocess sets the filesystem to be inaccesible? Can you post some of the messages that appear before this point? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
