Re: [gentoo-user] Router 3rd and 4th net interface problem

2006-09-29 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:06:21 -0500 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 28 September 2006 21:43, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Router 3rd and 4th net interface
 problem':
  I'm pretty confused.  I'm trying to get the system in question to
  behave like a solid-state router that you can plug an ethernet jack
  into and be on the network.  How should eth1 and eth2 be configured
  in /etc/conf.d/net ?
 
 They should be configured as part of a bridge device (see the
 bridging section of /etc/conf.d/net.example) and have the address
 assigned (and DHCPD listing on) that bridge device.

Except that this doesn't work on WLAN (MAC layer done by the WLAN
adapter). But probably proxy_arp can help here. And subnet
separation, of course. Just extending the netmask a bit and enabling
proxy_arp would do the job. OTOH, it's also easy to configure the
routes to the other subnets via DHCP. Just a matter of taste. In any
case, it only works on IP layer.

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[gentoo-user] * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started

2006-09-29 Thread Shaochun Wang
Does anyone tell me what this mean and how to correct it?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Should we NEVER do an ``emerge -u world''?

2006-09-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 07:41:22 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:

  That's not the same as -5ing everything, which is what I was
  referring to and the easy way to toast /etc/fstab.  
 
 Ah, okay, then I did not understand you completely right.

Probably because I didn't explain myself very clearly first time :(


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Re: [gentoo-user] * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started

2006-09-29 Thread Daniel Iliev
Shaochun Wang wrote:
 Does anyone tell me what this mean and how to correct it?


   
Is your sshd in boot level and net.eth0 in default level?
sshd depends/requires net.eth0 to be started and running.

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[gentoo-user] suspend2 with lvm

2006-09-29 Thread Shaochun Wang

Hi Everyone:

I use suspend2 and lvm at the same time. I use a lvm partition
(/dev/vg/swap) as my suspend target by setting
resume2=swap:/dev/vg/swap.

I order to use make it work, I use initramfs. It works properly except
that I get the following message when I shut down the computer:

Unable to shutdown: /dev/vg/swap

After some analyzing, I know it happens because the open count of
/dev/vg/swap is 2 when the script /lib/rcscripts/addons/lvm-stop.sh is
executed.

Maybe this is the problem of baselayout or my initramfs. 
How can I resolve it?

My initramfs is at
http://lcs.ios.ac.cn/~scwang/docs/initramfs_data.cpio.gz

The following is my some information of my system:
$ uname -a
$ Linux x31 2.6.16-suspend2-r8 #40 PREEMPT Fri Sep 29 14:25:38 
  CST 2006 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1500MHz GNU/Linux

$ lvdisplay /dev/vg/swap
$   --- Logical volume ---
  LV Name/dev/vg/swap
  VG Namevg
  LV UUIDE6oRRu-qkza-XIb5-TnGw-rGak-v7Kr-Jr5qZL
  LV Write Accessread/write
  LV Status  available
  # open 2
  LV Size1000.00 MB
  Current LE 250
  Segments   1
  Allocation inherit
  Read ahead sectors 0
  Block device   254:4


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[gentoo-user] USB Mouse Problem

2006-09-29 Thread Suranga Kasthuriarachchi
Dear All,I have setup the Linux box using Gentoo 2006.1 with according it's instruction. every things are working find, but the problem is my USB Mouse is moving very slowly, but other software like FireFox, open office working fast. please help me on this.
Thanking You all,Suranga


Re: [gentoo-user] * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started

2006-09-29 Thread Shaochun Wang
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 10:57:10AM +0300, Daniel Iliev wrote:
 Shaochun Wang wrote:
  Does anyone tell me what this mean and how to correct it?
 
 

 Is your sshd in boot level and net.eth0 in default level?
 sshd depends/requires net.eth0 to be started and running.
 
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Both are in the default level.

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Re: [gentoo-user] * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started

2006-09-29 Thread Daniel Iliev
Shaochun Wang wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 10:57:10AM +0300, Daniel Iliev wrote:
   
 Shaochun Wang wrote:
 
 Does anyone tell me what this mean and how to correct it?


   
   
 Is your sshd in boot level and net.eth0 in default level?
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 Both are in the default level.

   
Is net.eth0 starting and working properly?

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[gentoo-user] Re: * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started

2006-09-29 Thread Marc Blumentritt
As fas as I understand it, this messages means, that the start of
net.eth0 is backgrounding, because it can take some ticks. The next
init-prozess is starting immediately afterward, before net.eth0 is up.
If a init-process is started, before net.eth0 is up (in your case sshd),
than it will go in the background, too, and waits, until net.eth0 is up
and then it will start. Going in the background and waiting generates
the schedule message.

Since I put this stuff together on my own, I do not know, if it is
correct. Can anyone confirm this?

Cheers
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started

2006-09-29 Thread Daniel Iliev
Marc Blumentritt wrote:
 As fas as I understand it, this messages means, that the start of
 net.eth0 is backgrounding, because it can take some ticks. The next
 init-prozess is starting immediately afterward, before net.eth0 is up.
 If a init-process is started, before net.eth0 is up (in your case sshd),
 than it will go in the background, too, and waits, until net.eth0 is up
 and then it will start. Going in the background and waiting generates
 the schedule message.

 Since I put this stuff together on my own, I do not know, if it is
 correct. Can anyone confirm this?

 Cheers
 Marc

   
Yes. I had a similar or the same output when there was a faulty netplugd
here which was preventing eth0 to start. Then not only ssh but all the
services that depend on eth0 were giving this schedule message. I was
running my eth manually until I found the problem with after I got help
here from this mailing list.
Actually I think that OP's problem is eth0, not sshd but I'm just
guessing because I haven't enough info.

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[gentoo-user] reverse dependencies

2006-09-29 Thread kiorky

hello i want to know a good tool for reverse dependencies stuff.
for example, gnutls broke my system  yesterday but revdep or equery dont 
took me all impacted packages. But a ldd on the impacted program show me 
my soname (libgnutls.so.*)
so i want to know all packages depending on /usr/lib/libgnutls.* for 
example or maybe on all binaries/libraries.given by equery files 
package, a kind of recursively ldd program on other binaries and 
libraries files which returns me depending on packages.


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[gentoo-user] How to connect my analog telephone in to asterisk system

2006-09-29 Thread Suranga Kasthuriarachchi
Dear all,



I going to setup basic Gentoo asterisk system for a testing purpose, i have a
X100P FXO PCI card and i'm going to use it to connect it PSTN line to
asterisk box. so my problem is how do i connect my other normal anolog
phones(FXS) to asterisk box.



suranga


Re: [gentoo-user] reverse dependencies

2006-09-29 Thread Ptitjack
kiorky a gentiment tapote:
 hello i want to know a good tool for reverse dependencies stuff.
 for example, gnutls broke my system  yesterday but revdep or equery
 dont took me all impacted packages. But a ldd on the impacted program
 show me my soname (libgnutls.so.*)
 so i want to know all packages depending on /usr/lib/libgnutls.* for
 example or maybe on all binaries/libraries.given by equery files
 package, a kind of recursively ldd program on other binaries and
 libraries files which returns me depending on packages.


Hi,

try udept

#emerge app-portage/udept
#dep -L package

Regards

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -D pulling in more than it should these days?!

2006-09-29 Thread Graham Murray
Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What I belive you're seeing is that there have been new flags added or
 removed from ebuilds and therefor there is need to rebuild a lot of
 packages to make everything fall in line.  For myself recently I saw a
 lot of perl packages rebuilt because the 'minimal' USE flag was set as
 '-' by default instead of not at all (or something like that).

But that is covered by the -N (--newuse) flag, not the -D flag. I must
admit that the only time I use -D is with the 'world' target not
individual packages.
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg is unable to detect mouse

2006-09-29 Thread Graham Murray
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Nope! I agree with the OP. My plain 2 buttons + scroller mouse wasn't
 detected too. So I copied my old xorg.conf.
 I really think xorg configuration should be more user friendly. Woking X
 is crucial for not  getting newbies scared. ;-)

Especially when the X started by the LiveCD for the graphical
installer manages to correctly detect a working screen resolution,
mouse etc.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started

2006-09-29 Thread Shaochun Wang
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 10:59:53AM +0200, Marc Blumentritt wrote:
 As fas as I understand it, this messages means, that the start of
 net.eth0 is backgrounding, because it can take some ticks. The next
 init-prozess is starting immediately afterward, before net.eth0 is up.
 If a init-process is started, before net.eth0 is up (in your case sshd),
 than it will go in the background, too, and waits, until net.eth0 is up
 and then it will start. Going in the background and waiting generates
 the schedule message.
 
 Since I put this stuff together on my own, I do not know, if it is
 correct. Can anyone confirm this?
 
 Cheers
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[gentoo-user] upgrading a large package, say Xorg

2006-09-29 Thread John Newman
Hello,

Recently I went to emerge ipodder, a program I've never used before but
was interested in trying out.  Unfortunately it had a dependency on
pythonwx = version 2.6, which in turn had a dependency on wxGTK =  version 
2.6, 
which in turn wanted me to upgrade my entire Xorg installation... (I'm
runnig 6.9).   Not particularly wanting to do this, I hacked my way
around it.  (seems it works just fine with wxGTK/wxpython 2.4, which
required no Xorg upgrade).

But later on I decided what the hell, I may as well upgrade X.  However,
when I attempt emerge xorg-base/xorg-x11, I get a whole list of
Blocked packages, the gist of it being my installation of
x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 is blocking... everything.  I was thinking that
emerge could handle this type of situation since I'm doing an upgrade -
that it would unmerge the old stuff and emerge the new stuff as it went
along.

Is my only option to manually unmerge my current x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9
(and I have hundreds of packages I've emerge'd that depend on it,
naturally), then emerge x11-base/xorg-x11 to get the new version (7.1 I
believe?).   Or is there a better way?

thanks for any and all advice for this Gentoo fan,


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[gentoo-user] Re: * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started

2006-09-29 Thread Marc Blumentritt
Shaochun Wang schrieb:
 On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 10:59:53AM +0200, Marc Blumentritt wrote:
 As fas as I understand it, this messages means, that the start of
 net.eth0 is backgrounding, because it can take some ticks. The next
 init-prozess is starting immediately afterward, before net.eth0 is up.
 If a init-process is started, before net.eth0 is up (in your case sshd),
 than it will go in the background, too, and waits, until net.eth0 is up
 and then it will start. Going in the background and waiting generates
 the schedule message.

 Since I put this stuff together on my own, I do not know, if it is
 correct. Can anyone confirm this?

 Cheers
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 I think you are right, but how to disable the anonying message?
 

Hmm, i do not think, that this should be disabled. It tells you: Well,
I started sshd, but it will only run, when net.eth0 comes up! So if
sshd does not start, you know there is a problem with net.eth0 and not
sshd. Or so I hope...

At first I was irritated, too, but now I just do not care. For me, this
message is as good as service foo has been started...

Cheers
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Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading a large package, say Xorg

2006-09-29 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Friday 29 September 2006 14:46, John Newman wrote:
[SNIP]
 But later on I decided what the hell, I may as well upgrade X.  However,
 when I attempt emerge xorg-base/xorg-x11, I get a whole list of
 Blocked packages, the gist of it being my installation of
 x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 is blocking... everything.

Actually it says x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 or something like that (you obviously 
didn't bother to show us...). You are running xorg-x11-6.8.x.

 I was thinking that 
 emerge could handle this type of situation since I'm doing an upgrade -
 that it would unmerge the old stuff and emerge the new stuff as it went
 along.

Nope.

 Is my only option to manually unmerge my current x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9
 (and I have hundreds of packages I've emerge'd that depend on it,
 naturally), then emerge x11-base/xorg-x11 to get the new version (7.1 I
 believe?).   Or is there a better way?

I believe the upgrade guide should suffice [1]. And yes, it does tell you to 
unmerge the old xorg-x11. Just follow that guide and you should be fine...

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml

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[gentoo-user] LyX 1.4.3

2006-09-29 Thread alain . didierjean
I'd like to to test Lyx 1.4.3 on my gentoo amd 64 box.
Any ebuild available anywhere yet (it's not in the portage tree) ,
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Re: [gentoo-user] * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started

2006-09-29 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 15:43 +0800, Shaochun Wang wrote:
 Does anyone tell me what this mean and how to correct it?
 

Don't you want sshd to start when net.eth0 start?  I know I do...
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] LyX 1.4.3

2006-09-29 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 29. September 2006 15:11 schrieb ext 
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 I'd like to to test Lyx 1.4.3 on my gentoo amd 64 box.
 Any ebuild available anywhere yet (it's not in the portage tree) ,

Take the latest one from portage, rename it and put it into your overlay. 
Then ebuild /path/to/ebuild digest and emerge -DNu world.

HTH...

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Re: [gentoo-user] USB Mouse Problem

2006-09-29 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 02:02:43PM +0600, Penguin Lover Suranga 
Kasthuriarachchi squawked:
 instruction. every things are working find, but the problem is my USB Mouse
 is moving very slowly, but other software like FireFox, open office working
 fast. please help me on this.

If you just want to speed up the motion of the cursor on your screen,
try

xset mouse insert some number here

see 'man xset' for details.

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Re: [gentoo-user] * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started

2006-09-29 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 29 September 2006 09:57, Daniel Iliev wrote:
 Shaochun Wang wrote:
  Does anyone tell me what this mean and how to correct it?

 Is your sshd in boot level and net.eth0 in default level?
 sshd depends/requires net.eth0 to be started and running.

Except for net.lo no network-related service should be started in runlevel 
boot. Otherwise3 you are not able to define a networkless runlevel.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to connect my analog telephone in to asterisk system

2006-09-29 Thread Mike Williams
On Friday 29 September 2006 12:18, Suranga Kasthuriarachchi wrote:
 I going to setup basic Gentoo asterisk system for a testing purpose, i have
 a X100P FXO PCI card and i'm going to use it to connect it PSTN line to
 asterisk box. so my problem is how do i connect my other normal anolog
 phones(FXS) to asterisk box.

Either get an FXS card, or an ATA to turn it into a SIP device.

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[gentoo-user] cleaning up my gentoo

2006-09-29 Thread Pawel K
Hello
I would like to clean up my gentoo installation. I'm
using it for more than a year and now I would like to
make it thiner.
I'm aware of some tools doing that:

emerge deepclean
rm /usr/portage/disfiles/*

What about old ebuilds in /usr/portage/ directory
should they be removed as well.
What about other things that I'm not aware of.

Is there any common procedure/script/command for
cleaning up my gentoo.

I've already performed all above steps and I'm asking
about what else should be done to clean up my gentoo
and maybe make it thiner without decreasing its
functionality.

Thank You for any Help

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Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading a large package, say Xorg

2006-09-29 Thread John Newman
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 02:57:43PM +0200, Bo ?rsted Andresen wrote:
 On Friday 29 September 2006 14:46, John Newman wrote:
 [SNIP]
  But later on I decided what the hell, I may as well upgrade X.  However,
  when I attempt emerge xorg-base/xorg-x11, I get a whole list of
  Blocked packages, the gist of it being my installation of
  x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 is blocking... everything.
 
 Actually it says x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 or something like that (you obviously 
 didn't bother to show us...). You are running xorg-x11-6.8.x.

The stuff looks like this:

[blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking 
x11-drivers/xf86-video-tga-1.1.0)
[blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking 
x11-drivers/xf86-video-s3-0.4.1)
[blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking 
x11-drivers/xf86-video-cyrix-1.1.0)
... etc.

You're right, I'm running 6.8.  Anyway, thanks for the link to the
upgrade guide.  I'll mess with it when I get some free time.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning up my gentoo

2006-09-29 Thread Daniel da Veiga

On 9/29/06, Pawel K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello
I would like to clean up my gentoo installation. I'm
using it for more than a year and now I would like to
make it thiner.
I'm aware of some tools doing that:

emerge deepclean
rm /usr/portage/disfiles/*

What about old ebuilds in /usr/portage/ directory
should they be removed as well.
What about other things that I'm not aware of.


They should be automatically removed with rsync.



Is there any common procedure/script/command for
cleaning up my gentoo.


You may find A LOT of these scripts at the Gentoo Foruns. Take a look there...



I've already performed all above steps and I'm asking
about what else should be done to clean up my gentoo
and maybe make it thiner without decreasing its
functionality.


This may help:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Clean_Up_Cruft

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: date-specific cp/mv

2006-09-29 Thread maxim wexler

 
 How did you use it?

$find ~/music (-type f, -fstype mp3) (-mtime, -mmin,
-ctime) (72, 3, 4810, whatever) -exec cp {}
~/music-bkp \;

And it never said bad option or file not found.

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Re: [gentoo-user] date-specific cp/mv RESOLVED

2006-09-29 Thread maxim wexler
 I believe the right syntax is:
 
 find /path/dir -type f -ctime -3
 
 This should mean show all files created for the
 last 3 days.
 
 Use  -3 not 3
 

That's it :)

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[gentoo-user] exporting mp3 in audacity crashes pc

2006-09-29 Thread maxim wexler
Hi group,

When I try to export an mp3 in audacity a box opens
which tells me it must search for libmp3lame.so. Then
another box opens indicating it found the file in
/usr/libs and offers me the choice: cancel or open. I
click the button marked 'open'(Didn't know you could
open library files) and the PC crashes forcing a
hard reset.

The same thing happens when I use
Edit-Preferences-File formats

Of course when I click cancel nothing happens and I'm
back to square one.

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[gentoo-user] GTK user administration tool

2006-09-29 Thread Wagner Vaz
Hi all,
I'm looking for some gtk application that I can administrate users on
my BOX, can't be requered Gnome, KDE or XFCE, pure GTK. Thanks.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Re: date-specific cp/mv

2006-09-29 Thread Alexander Skwar
· maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 How did you use it?
 
 $find ~/music (-type f, -fstype mp3) (-mtime, -mmin,
 -ctime) (72, 3, 4810, whatever) -exec cp {}
 ~/music-bkp \;

Well, actually, I don't wonder that *this* command did not
work. That's not at all even *close* to legal syntax.



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micro and then try to run it on OS/2.  I mean, get serious.
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Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading a large package, say Xorg

2006-09-29 Thread Daniel da Veiga

On 9/29/06, John Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

Recently I went to emerge ipodder, a program I've never used before but
was interested in trying out.  Unfortunately it had a dependency on
pythonwx = version 2.6, which in turn had a dependency on wxGTK =  version 
2.6,
which in turn wanted me to upgrade my entire Xorg installation... (I'm
runnig 6.9).   Not particularly wanting to do this, I hacked my way
around it.  (seems it works just fine with wxGTK/wxpython 2.4, which
required no Xorg upgrade).

But later on I decided what the hell, I may as well upgrade X.  However,
when I attempt emerge xorg-base/xorg-x11, I get a whole list of
Blocked packages, the gist of it being my installation of
x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 is blocking... everything.  I was thinking that
emerge could handle this type of situation since I'm doing an upgrade -
that it would unmerge the old stuff and emerge the new stuff as it went
along.


The Modulas X upgrade is not that simple, its a change on the whole
structure of Xorg, not only a source code upgrade with few
implications, it also requires some configuration and attention in
order to make your X system run after the upgrade.



Is my only option to manually unmerge my current x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9
(and I have hundreds of packages I've emerge'd that depend on it,
naturally), then emerge x11-base/xorg-x11 to get the new version (7.1 I
believe?).   Or is there a better way?


You'll find the Modular X HOWTO at Gentoo Docs. It is pretty intersting!

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg is unable to detect mouse

2006-09-29 Thread Jason Weisberger
Daniel,In case you had not noticed, compiling the entire distro from source is not the newbie way to install a linux distro either. I think if you're that worried about autoconfiguration, you should probably look elsewhere.
Daniel lliev wrote: Nope! I agree with the OP. My plain 2 buttons + scroller mouse wasn't detected too. So I copied my old xorg.conf. I really think xorg configuration should be more user friendly. Woking X
 is crucial for not getting newbies scared. ;-)-- Jason Weisberger[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [gentoo-user] suspend2 with lvm

2006-09-29 Thread Richard Fish

On 9/29/06, Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Unable to shutdown: /dev/vg/swap

After some analyzing, I know it happens because the open count of
/dev/vg/swap is 2 when the script /lib/rcscripts/addons/lvm-stop.sh is
executed.

Maybe this is the problem of baselayout or my initramfs.
How can I resolve it?


I assume this is when you fully shutdown the system (shutdown -h now
or similar)?

If so, my first instinct is to simply ignore it, since it is totally
harmless.  But I suppose you could put this in your
/etc/conf.d/local.stop:

echo 0x /proc/suspend2/resume2

I'm not currently using suspend2, but IIRC, this should clear the
reference that suspend2 has on the device.

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[gentoo-user] new foomatic-filters ebuild

2006-09-29 Thread Nick Geron
Anyone know why the 3.0.2-r1 ebuild is blocking the current, stable 
foomatic-db?


[blocks B ] net-print/foomatic-db-20050910 (is blocking 
net-print/foomatic-filters-3.0.2-r1)


I discovered this just before I did an update world.  I can't find any 
reference to a bug, there are no notes in the Changelog or within the 
ebuild to suggest why it's blocking.  The block wasn't in 3.0.2.ebuild 
which I'm currently running with db-20050606. The closest reference I 
could find had to do with filters and db overwriting each others files, 
but that bug's resolution was a remerge of db (and that particular bug 
is a year old).


I just finished a hellish afternoon getting my girlfriend's mac to play 
nice with my printer and I don't want to clobber anything.  Any help 
would be much appreciated.  Thanks!


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Re: [gentoo-user] reverse dependencies

2006-09-29 Thread Richard Fish

On 9/29/06, kiorky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hello i want to know a good tool for reverse dependencies stuff.
for example, gnutls broke my system  yesterday but revdep or equery dont
took me all impacted packages. But a ldd on the impacted program show me
my soname (libgnutls.so.*)
so i want to know all packages depending on /usr/lib/libgnutls.* for


What you really want is:

revdep-rebuild -p --library 'libgnutls.*'

BTW, you should have seen something like this, either on the screen or
in the /var/log/portage/elog/ files (assuming you have ELOG setup for
your system!)

   ewarn You must re-compile all packages that are linked against
   ewarn Gnutls-1.2.11 by using revdep-rebuild from gentoolkit:
   ewarn # revdep-rebuild --library libgnutls.so.12

Regards,
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[gentoo-user] JMicron confusion

2006-09-29 Thread Ryan Sims

I'm looking at upgrading to a Core 2 Duo system, and looking at the
Asus P5B series of motherboards.  I've found a couple forum posts
(http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-494387-highlight-p965.html and
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-498160-highlight-p965.html) that
seem to indicate troubles with JMicron support in kernels.  Is this
something I should be concerned about?  The forum discussions seem to
indicate that the problem is unresolved, indicating to me that I
should look elsewhere for motherboards.

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Re: [gentoo-user] new foomatic-filters ebuild

2006-09-29 Thread Richard Fish

On 9/29/06, Nick Geron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyone know why the 3.0.2-r1 ebuild is blocking the current, stable
foomatic-db?

[blocks B ] net-print/foomatic-db-20050910 (is blocking
net-print/foomatic-filters-3.0.2-r1)

I discovered this just before I did an update world.  I can't find any
reference to a bug, there are no notes in the Changelog or within the
ebuild to suggest why it's blocking.  The block wasn't in 3.0.2.ebuild
which I'm currently running with db-20050606. The closest reference I
could find had to do with filters and db overwriting each others files,
but that bug's resolution was a remerge of db (and that particular bug
is a year old).



From /usr/portage/foomatic-filters/ChangeLog:


*foomatic-filters-3.0.2-r1 (05 May 2006)

 05 May 2006; Stefan Schweizer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 +foomatic-filters-3.0.2-r1.ebuild:
 rev-bump foomatic-filters to force remerge, no changes apart from the
 foomatic-db-old block, stable from the beginning, bug 131533

Also, the block is on foomatic-db versions less than 20050910, which
is currently stable.  So if you have 20050910 installed, you should be
ok.  What does emerge -pv foomatic-db report?

You might also add the --tree option to see what is pulling in
foomatic-filters, what is going to be upgraded, or installed new, etc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: date-specific cp/mv

2006-09-29 Thread Daniel Iliev
Alexander Skwar wrote:
 · maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   
 How did you use it?
   
 $find ~/music (-type f, -fstype mp3) (-mtime, -mmin,
 -ctime) (72, 3, 4810, whatever) -exec cp {}
 ~/music-bkp \;
 

 Well, actually, I don't wonder that *this* command did not
 work. That's not at all even *close* to legal syntax.



 Alexander Skwar
   
Well, I think that by the parenthesis Mr. Wexler  wanted to show he had
tried all the variations, not that it is the exact command. I was also
very pissed off when I had to discover that the find manual page isn't
very correct. It never made clear that -ctime 3 means now plus 3
days and -ctime -3 means now minus 3 days.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: date-specific cp/mv

2006-09-29 Thread Richard Fish

On 9/29/06, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

tried all the variations, not that it is the exact command. I was also
very pissed off when I had to discover that the find manual page isn't
very correct. It never made clear that -ctime 3 means now plus 3
days and -ctime -3 means now minus 3 days.


Well the man page does have this paragraph in it (emphasis added):

  If you are using find in an environment  where  security  is  important
  (for example if you are using it to seach directories that are writable
  by other users), you should read the Security Considerations  chapter
  of the findutils documentation, which is called Finding Files and comes
  with findutils.   **That document also includes a  lot  more  detail  and
  discussion  than  this  manual  page,  so you may find it a more useful
  source of information.**

So you can get better documentation from the info pages by running
info find.info.  If you want specifics on the time options:

# info find.info Finding Files Time

BTW, in programmer speak, now plus 3 days would be interpreted as 3
days in the future...which is _not_ how find works.  To try and
clarify:

-mtime 2  - files modified between 48 and 72 hours ago.
-mtime -2 - files modified in the last 2 days...the period between 0
and 48 hours ago.
-mtime +2 - files modified more than 48 hours ago

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] new foomatic-filters ebuild

2006-09-29 Thread Nick Geron


Thanks for the quick response Richard:)

I did see that note, but i wasn't sure what they meant by 
'foomatic-db-old block'.  On that note, looking at it again I see my 
brain farted.


I know I can force installs if so desired.  To answer your question, 
portage will update to 20050910 without complaint, however, I was 
looking for a good explaination of why it was blocked. I want to 
determine if updating and forcing/ignoring foomatic-filters in an update 
word would result in another weekend of cups debugging.  If 
'foomatic-db-old block' means that I just have to remerge one of them 
again, like in that old bug report I found, then great.  No problem. 
I've just read too many forum posts with 'I upgraded with stable package 
X and now everythings borked.'


Equeries tell me that filters are required by the foomatic-db and 
db-engine - effectively foomatic/printing.


Has anyone done a recent printing system upgrade?  Any reported trouble 
running filters 3.0.2-r1 with db 20050910?  Are the filters identical 
between 3.0.2 and 3.0.2-r1?


-nick


Richard Fish wrote:

On 9/29/06, Nick Geron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Anyone know why the 3.0.2-r1 ebuild is blocking the current, stable
foomatic-db?

[blocks B ] net-print/foomatic-db-20050910 (is blocking
net-print/foomatic-filters-3.0.2-r1)

I discovered this just before I did an update world.  I can't find any
reference to a bug, there are no notes in the Changelog or within the
ebuild to suggest why it's blocking.  The block wasn't in 3.0.2.ebuild
which I'm currently running with db-20050606. The closest reference I
could find had to do with filters and db overwriting each others files,
but that bug's resolution was a remerge of db (and that particular bug
is a year old).




From /usr/portage/foomatic-filters/ChangeLog:



*foomatic-filters-3.0.2-r1 (05 May 2006)

 05 May 2006; Stefan Schweizer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 +foomatic-filters-3.0.2-r1.ebuild:
 rev-bump foomatic-filters to force remerge, no changes apart from the
 foomatic-db-old block, stable from the beginning, bug 131533

Also, the block is on foomatic-db versions less than 20050910, which
is currently stable.  So if you have 20050910 installed, you should be
ok.  What does emerge -pv foomatic-db report?

You might also add the --tree option to see what is pulling in
foomatic-filters, what is going to be upgraded, or installed new, etc.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: date-specific cp/mv

2006-09-29 Thread Daniel Iliev
Richard Fish wrote:
 On 9/29/06, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 tried all the variations, not that it is the exact command. I was also
 very pissed off when I had to discover that the find manual page isn't
 very correct. It never made clear that -ctime 3 means now plus 3
 days and -ctime -3 means now minus 3 days.

 Well the man page does have this paragraph in it (emphasis added):

   If you are using find in an environment  where  security  is 
 important
   (for example if you are using it to seach directories that are
 writable
   by other users), you should read the Security Considerations 
 chapter
   of the findutils documentation, which is called Finding Files
 and comes
   with findutils.   **That document also includes a  lot  more 
 detail  and
   discussion  than  this  manual  page,  so you may find it a more
 useful
   source of information.**

 So you can get better documentation from the info pages by running
 info find.info.  If you want specifics on the time options:

 # info find.info Finding Files Time

 BTW, in programmer speak, now plus 3 days would be interpreted as 3
 days in the future...which is _not_ how find works.  To try and
 clarify:

 -mtime 2  - files modified between 48 and 72 hours ago.
 -mtime -2 - files modified in the last 2 days...the period between 0
 and 48 hours ago.
 -mtime +2 - files modified more than 48 hours ago

 HTH,
 -Richard

Point taken! Thanks for the clarification, Richard!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Hooks for Portage 2.1?

2006-09-29 Thread ps
hi,

  Would anyone happen to know where the API for Portage 2.1, that explains
  the new hook framework layout?
 
 I'm not sure such documentation exists... What do you want to do?

i would like to have a script (usage e.g. emerge_patch package 
path/patch_file)
which would emerge a given package and apply given patch after source unpack 
phase.
as i understood some time ago the hooks could be used for it, but i havent found
any hint how to use them.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 as a dependency

2006-09-29 Thread Daniel Iliev
Grant wrote:
 I'm setting up a new system and I've noticed that xorg-x11 isn't
 emerged as a dependency of mozilla-firefox or xfce4, although neither
 of them will run without it.  Can anyone tell me why this is?

 - Grant
You could run firefox for example on a remote X server...

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[gentoo-user] Re: JMicron confusion

2006-09-29 Thread Ryan Sims

On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm looking at upgrading to a Core 2 Duo system, and looking at the
Asus P5B series of motherboards.  I've found a couple forum posts
(http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-494387-highlight-p965.html and
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-498160-highlight-p965.html) that
seem to indicate troubles with JMicron support in kernels.  Is this
something I should be concerned about?  The forum discussions seem to
indicate that the problem is unresolved, indicating to me that I
should look elsewhere for motherboards.




Let me rephrase my question:  If I only use SATA drives, non RAID,
they only run through the P975 southbridge, and I should be ok, right?
Or am I wrong?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: date-specific cp/mv

2006-09-29 Thread Richard Fish

On 9/29/06, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Richard Fish wrote:
 -mtime -2 - files modified in the last 2 days...the period between 0
 and 48 hours ago.

Point taken! Thanks for the clarification, Richard!


And just to show that this is really hard to describe correctly...I
screwed this one up.  It should be:

-mtime -2 - files modified since 2 days ago...the period between 48
hours ago and any point in the future.

;-)

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[gentoo-user] Suspend to RAM problem

2006-09-29 Thread Mick
Hi All,

Whenever I suspend my Evo N600c to RAM, it goes to sleep fine, but when I 
press the power button to resume the laptop wakes up, but the screen remains 
blank.  Then all I can do is hold down the On/Off button for 5 seconds to 
force a shutdown.

dmesg is telling me that ACPI support the following states:
===
ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S3 S4 S5)
===

Would you know of a fix?  Is this a BIOS problem?

PS.  What's the difference between Standby and Suspend to RAM?
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Re: [gentoo-user] JMicron confusion

2006-09-29 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 29 September 2006 21:28, Ryan Sims wrote:
 I'm looking at upgrading to a Core 2 Duo system, and looking at the
 Asus P5B series of motherboards.  I've found a couple forum posts
 (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-494387-highlight-p965.html and
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-498160-highlight-p965.html) that
 seem to indicate troubles with JMicron support in kernels.  Is this
 something I should be concerned about?  The forum discussions seem to
 indicate that the problem is unresolved, indicating to me that I
 should look elsewhere for motherboards.

I am using this one:
03:00.0 SATA controller: JMicron Technologies, Inc. JMicron 20360/20363 AHCI 
Controller

without any troubles.

It is important to have a fairly recent kernel. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: JMicron confusion

2006-09-29 Thread Richard Fish

On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Let me rephrase my question:  If I only use SATA drives, non RAID,
they only run through the P975 southbridge, and I should be ok, right?


Well I don't own one of these things, but it looks like the SATA stuff
goes through the JMicron chip, while the RAID is provided by the 975.

It should be possible to get working, but I expect you'll have trouble
with installation. It looks like the JMicron SATA support was added in
2.6.18, so I wouldn't really expect the 2006.1 liveCD to use the chip
optimally, if at all.  You might end up hunting down a different live
CD, needing to stage it on a different system, or something else
similarly difficult.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 as a dependency

2006-09-29 Thread Richard Fish

On 9/29/06, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm setting up a new system and I've noticed that xorg-x11 isn't
emerged as a dependency of mozilla-firefox or xfce4, although neither
of them will run without it.  Can anyone tell me why this is?


This is because of the change to modular X.  xorg-x11 is now just a
meta-package that brings in all of the xorg packages.  Other packages
in the tree are *not* supposed to depend on xorg-x11, but only on
those specific packages that they really require to run.

If you want an X server locally, you need to also merge xorg-server.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: JMicron confusion

2006-09-29 Thread Ryan Sims

On 9/29/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Let me rephrase my question:  If I only use SATA drives, non RAID,
 they only run through the P975 southbridge, and I should be ok, right?

Well I don't own one of these things, but it looks like the SATA stuff
goes through the JMicron chip, while the RAID is provided by the 975.


I thought it was the other way around?

Southbridge
- 4 x SATA 3.0 Gb/s ports
JMicron(r) JMB363 PATA and SATA controller
- 1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66 for up to 2 PATA devices
- 1 x Internal SATA 3.0 Gb/s port
- 1 x External SATA 3.0 Gb/s port (SATA On-the-Go)
- Support SATA RAID 0, 1 and JBOD

(from 
http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2model=1178l1=3l2=11l3=307)

That seems to say that 4 SATA drives can go through the Southbridge
(P965, typo earlier, sorry)
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[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-x11 as a dependency

2006-09-29 Thread Harm Geerts
On Friday 29 September 2006 23:53, Grant wrote:
 I'm setting up a new system and I've noticed that xorg-x11 isn't
 emerged as a dependency of mozilla-firefox or xfce4, although neither
 of them will run without it.  Can anyone tell me why this is?

xorg-x11 is a meta package that provides much more then is needed to run 
firefox or xfce. Like Daniel says it's possible to use them on a remote X 
server, so there is no need for a full blown X server installation.

The packages depend only on the parts of xorg that are needed to run it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: JMicron confusion

2006-09-29 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Saturday 30 September 2006 00:52, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Let me rephrase my question:  If I only use SATA drives, non RAID,
  they only run through the P975 southbridge, and I should be ok, right?

 Well I don't own one of these things, but it looks like the SATA stuff
 goes through the JMicron chip, while the RAID is provided by the 975.

 It should be possible to get working, but I expect you'll have trouble
 with installation. It looks like the JMicron SATA support was added in
 2.6.18, so I wouldn't really expect the 2006.1 liveCD to use the chip
 optimally, if at all.  You might end up hunting down a different live
 CD, needing to stage it on a different system, or something else
 similarly difficult.

jmicron-support was added to 2.6.16. But I am not sure that it was added for 
ALL jmicron controller ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: JMicron confusion

2006-09-29 Thread Richard Fish

On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 9/29/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Let me rephrase my question:  If I only use SATA drives, non RAID,
  they only run through the P975 southbridge, and I should be ok, right?

 Well I don't own one of these things, but it looks like the SATA stuff
 goes through the JMicron chip, while the RAID is provided by the 975.

I thought it was the other way around?


Maybe...as I said I don't have one of these beasties, and I was
inferring based on someone else's lspci output from the forums.

Either way, there is no guarantee, as 965 support still had issues until 2.6.18.

Anyway, some recent threads from -amd64 might be helpful:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.amd64/8975
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.amd64/8870/focus=8870
(ignore the this isn't amd so go away crap from the second one)

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Re: [gentoo-user] new foomatic-filters ebuild

2006-09-29 Thread Philip Webb
060929 Nick Geron wrote:
 Any reported trouble running filters 3.0.2-r1 with db 20050910?

My homemade list of installed packages tells me

  W 040921 net-print/foomatic-3.0.2
060429 net-print/foomatic-db-20050910 [for foomatic]
060528 net-print/foomatic-db-engine-3.0.2 [for foomatic]
060507 net-print/foomatic-filters-3.0.2-r1 [for foomatic]
  
ie Foomatic is in world -- which I never update as such --
 the other  3  pkgs were installed to support it on the dates shown.
So I've had your  2  helping run my printer for some time without problems.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: JMicron confusion

2006-09-29 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Ryan Sims wrote:

On 9/29/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Let me rephrase my question:  If I only use SATA drives, non RAID,
 they only run through the P975 southbridge, and I should be ok, right?

Well I don't own one of these things, but it looks like the SATA stuff
goes through the JMicron chip, while the RAID is provided by the 975.


I thought it was the other way around?

Southbridge
- 4 x SATA 3.0 Gb/s ports
JMicron(r) JMB363 PATA and SATA controller
- 1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66 for up to 2 PATA devices
- 1 x Internal SATA 3.0 Gb/s port
- 1 x External SATA 3.0 Gb/s port (SATA On-the-Go)
- Support SATA RAID 0, 1 and JBOD

(from 
http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2model=1178l1=3l2=11l3=307) 



That seems to say that 4 SATA drives can go through the Southbridge
(P965, typo earlier, sorry)



Yeah - looks like it is for that board - as it uses ICH8 for plain old 
SATA and JMicron for RAID, other similar boards seem to use ICH8R for 
RAID and JMicron for plain old SATA... just to add to the confusion :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg is unable to detect mouse

2006-09-29 Thread Andrew Frink
On 9/29/06, Jason Weisberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Daniel,In case you had not noticed, compiling the entire distro from source is not the newbie way to install a linux distro either. I think if you're that worried about autoconfiguration, you should probably look elsewhere.
Daniel lliev wrote: Nope! I agree with the OP. My plain 2 buttons + scroller mouse wasn't detected too. So I copied my old xorg.conf. I really think xorg configuration should be more user friendly. Woking X
 is crucial for not getting newbies scared. ;-)-- Jason Weisberger
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The solution is to set your mouse to /dev/input/mice, and add the line to your mouse section 'Option ZAxisMapping 4 5'. there done the scroll wheel will work.


Re: [gentoo-user] Hooks for Portage 2.1?

2006-09-29 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Friday 29 September 2006 23:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i would like to have a script (usage e.g. emerge_patch package
 path/patch_file) which would emerge a given package and apply given patch
 after source unpack phase. as i understood some time ago the hooks could be
 used for it, but i havent found any hint how to use them.

I don't think the hooks are useful for that. Why not just copy the ebuild to 
an overlay and apply the patch in the ebuild in the overlay? I think [1] 
tells you everything you need to know to do that?

[1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_an_Updated_Ebuild

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 as a dependency

2006-09-29 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 14:53 -0700, Grant wrote:
 I'm setting up a new system and I've noticed that xorg-x11 isn't
 emerged as a dependency of mozilla-firefox or xfce4, although neither
 of them will run without it.  Can anyone tell me why this is?

it also depends on what you define as the normal use of your machine -
if you say that your machine is a desktop machine, then you _want_ X
to be a dependancy of firefox, etc.

If however you are setting up a server, then you _don't_ want X to be a
dependancy of such.

The way to define this, is of course with you profile.  If you've just
set up a new machine, you may have overlooked the fact that there are
now different profiles.

/etc/make.profile used to point to (eg)
../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0

now it should point to
../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.1/desktop
or
../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.1/server

HTH,
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[gentoo-user] [nomerge] ?

2006-09-29 Thread Meino Christian Cramer

Hi,

 when doing a
  
   eix-sync  emerge --pretend --tree --verbose --update --deep world
 
 I got often an output like this one:

   [nomerge  ] perl-core/Test-Harness-2.56

 I looked in the manual pages of emerge and ebuild but found no
 explanaition for the [nomerge] tag.

 What does it mean? For heavens sake! -- DONT install THAT! ??? :O) ;)

 Keep hacking!
 mcc

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Re: [gentoo-user] [nomerge] ?

2006-09-29 Thread Ryan Tandy

Meino Christian Cramer wrote:

[...]


When using --tree, [nomerge] denotes packages that are depended on by 
the one you want to install, but are already installed, so they won't be 
merged again.  They're there simply to show a more complete dep tree.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [nomerge] ?

2006-09-29 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 30 September 2006 03:41, Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
  when doing a

eix-sync  emerge --pretend --tree --verbose --update --deep world

  I got often an output like this one:

[nomerge  ] perl-core/Test-Harness-2.56

  I looked in the manual pages of emerge and ebuild but found no
  explanaition for the [nomerge] tag.

  What does it mean? For heavens sake! -- DONT install THAT! ??? :O) ;)

It means it's already installed and whatever follows it is being pulled in by 
it... (or it is in the PDEPEND/postdepend of what follows it). This 
particular package is actually in PDEPEND of dev-lang/perl. It should be 
followed by at least one line that says [merge] and due to --tree this shows 
what pulls that in.

I do realize that the output when adding --tree to emerge isn't particular 
well documented (or easy to document) so interpreting it does require a bit 
of guessing (or looking at the ebuilds)...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: JMicron confusion

2006-09-29 Thread Ryan Sims

On 9/29/06, Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ryan Sims wrote:
 On 9/29/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Let me rephrase my question:  If I only use SATA drives, non RAID,
  they only run through the P975 southbridge, and I should be ok, right?

 Well I don't own one of these things, but it looks like the SATA stuff
 goes through the JMicron chip, while the RAID is provided by the 975.

 I thought it was the other way around?

 Southbridge
 - 4 x SATA 3.0 Gb/s ports
 JMicron(r) JMB363 PATA and SATA controller
 - 1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66 for up to 2 PATA devices
 - 1 x Internal SATA 3.0 Gb/s port
 - 1 x External SATA 3.0 Gb/s port (SATA On-the-Go)
 - Support SATA RAID 0, 1 and JBOD

 (from
 http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2model=1178l1=3l2=11l3=307)


 That seems to say that 4 SATA drives can go through the Southbridge
 (P965, typo earlier, sorry)


Yeah - looks like it is for that board - as it uses ICH8 for plain old
SATA and JMicron for RAID, other similar boards seem to use ICH8R for
RAID and JMicron for plain old SATA... just to add to the confusion :-)



Confusion indeed ;)
So how well is the ICH8 southbride supported?  RAID isn't on my list
of things to worry about, so if I try just straight-up SATA drives,
will things work off of 2006.1, you think?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: JMicron confusion

2006-09-29 Thread Ryan Sims

On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 9/29/06, Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ryan Sims wrote:
  On 9/29/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Let me rephrase my question:  If I only use SATA drives, non RAID,
   they only run through the P975 southbridge, and I should be ok, right?
 
  Well I don't own one of these things, but it looks like the SATA stuff
  goes through the JMicron chip, while the RAID is provided by the 975.
 
  I thought it was the other way around?
 
  Southbridge
  - 4 x SATA 3.0 Gb/s ports
  JMicron(r) JMB363 PATA and SATA controller
  - 1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66 for up to 2 PATA devices
  - 1 x Internal SATA 3.0 Gb/s port
  - 1 x External SATA 3.0 Gb/s port (SATA On-the-Go)
  - Support SATA RAID 0, 1 and JBOD
 
  (from
  http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2model=1178l1=3l2=11l3=307)
 
 
  That seems to say that 4 SATA drives can go through the Southbridge
  (P965, typo earlier, sorry)


 Yeah - looks like it is for that board - as it uses ICH8 for plain old
 SATA and JMicron for RAID, other similar boards seem to use ICH8R for
 RAID and JMicron for plain old SATA... just to add to the confusion :-)


Confusion indeed ;)
So how well is the ICH8 southbride supported?  RAID isn't on my list
of things to worry about, so if I try just straight-up SATA drives,
will things work off of 2006.1, you think?


Nuts, ignore that.  Just realized the optical drives will be PATA,
which goes through the JMicron.  Shoot.  Looks like I'll have to give
either kernelOfTruth's LiveCD a shot, or possibly roll my own.  Or
find a LiveCD for another distro that has 2.6.18 or so.  Hmm.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: JMicron confusion

2006-09-29 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Ryan Sims wrote:


Nuts, ignore that.  Just realized the optical drives will be PATA,
which goes through the JMicron.  Shoot.  Looks like I'll have to give
either kernelOfTruth's LiveCD a shot, or possibly roll my own.  Or
find a LiveCD for another distro that has 2.6.18 or so.  Hmm.



Yep - see if you can find a USB cdrom to boot the live cd off.
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[gentoo-user] fonts [was: upgrading a large package, say Xorg]

2006-09-29 Thread David Relson
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:57:43 +0200
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:

 On Friday 29 September 2006 14:46, John Newman wrote:
 [SNIP]
  But later on I decided what the hell, I may as well upgrade X.
  However, when I attempt emerge xorg-base/xorg-x11, I get a whole
  list of Blocked packages, the gist of it being my installation of
  x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 is blocking... everything.
 
 Actually it says x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 or something like that (you
 obviously didn't bother to show us...). You are running
 xorg-x11-6.8.x.
 
  I was thinking that 
  emerge could handle this type of situation since I'm doing an
  upgrade - that it would unmerge the old stuff and emerge the new
  stuff as it went along.
 
 Nope.
 
  Is my only option to manually unmerge my current
  x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (and I have hundreds of packages I've
  emerge'd that depend on it, naturally), then emerge
  x11-base/xorg-x11 to get the new version (7.1 I believe?).   Or is
  there a better way?
 
 I believe the upgrade guide should suffice [1]. And yes, it does tell
 you to unmerge the old xorg-x11. Just follow that guide and you
 should be fine...
 
 [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml

Unmerging xorg-x11-6.9 and then emerging xorg-x11-7.0 does indeed
work!  The unmerge was down with bated breath :-  The emerge went well
and the system has been working well, though a problem has surfaced
that I think is related.

I've got an ATI Radeon card and was using ATI's official drivers which
are xorg-x11-6.x compatible.  Since ATI's drivers are not 7.x
compatible I'm not using them.  About the time of the change I noticed
that fonts weren't looking as good as I recalled them being and
suspect it's related.  Sigh ...

Any suggestions?

Regards,

David

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Re: [gentoo-user] fonts [was: upgrading a large package, say Xorg]

2006-09-29 Thread Ryan Tandy

David Relson wrote:

  Since ATI's drivers are not 7.x
compatible I'm not using them. 


Yes, they are. 
http://digg.com/linux_unix/ATI_Beats_nVidia_to_Xorg_7_1_Compatible_Drivers

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Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning up my gentoo

2006-09-29 Thread Dale
Daniel da Veiga wrote:
 On 9/29/06, Pawel K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello
 I would like to clean up my gentoo installation. I'm
 using it for more than a year and now I would like to
 make it thiner.
 I'm aware of some tools doing that:

 emerge deepclean
 rm /usr/portage/disfiles/*

 What about old ebuilds in /usr/portage/ directory
 should they be removed as well.
 What about other things that I'm not aware of.

 They should be automatically removed with rsync.


 Is there any common procedure/script/command for
 cleaning up my gentoo.

 You may find A LOT of these scripts at the Gentoo Foruns. Take a look
 there...


 I've already performed all above steps and I'm asking
 about what else should be done to clean up my gentoo
 and maybe make it thiner without decreasing its
 functionality.

 This may help:
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Clean_Up_Cruft


Don't forget eclean too.  eclean-pkg and eclean-dist to be more exact. 
That will take care of the distfiles and any packages you may have.  Be
carefull with that depclean.  It can get ugly.  o_O

Dale

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