Re: [gentoo-user] Router 3rd and 4th net interface problem
Hi, On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:06:21 -0500 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 28 September 2006 21:43, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Router 3rd and 4th net interface problem': I'm pretty confused. I'm trying to get the system in question to behave like a solid-state router that you can plug an ethernet jack into and be on the network. How should eth1 and eth2 be configured in /etc/conf.d/net ? They should be configured as part of a bridge device (see the bridging section of /etc/conf.d/net.example) and have the address assigned (and DHCPD listing on) that bridge device. Except that this doesn't work on WLAN (MAC layer done by the WLAN adapter). But probably proxy_arp can help here. And subnet separation, of course. Just extending the netmask a bit and enabling proxy_arp would do the job. OTOH, it's also easy to configure the routes to the other subnets via DHCP. Just a matter of taste. In any case, it only works on IP layer. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started
Does anyone tell me what this mean and how to correct it? -- Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 70C2 6945 0E46 E08B 419A 007C AC5C F21F 358A 0833 You can get my publickey from the following url: http://lcs.ios.ac.cn/~scwang/docs/scwangpublickey.gpg -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Should we NEVER do an ``emerge -u world''?
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 07:41:22 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: That's not the same as -5ing everything, which is what I was referring to and the easy way to toast /etc/fstab. Ah, okay, then I did not understand you completely right. Probably because I didn't explain myself very clearly first time :( -- Neil Bothwick Blessed be the pessimist for he hath made backups. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started
Shaochun Wang wrote: Does anyone tell me what this mean and how to correct it? Is your sshd in boot level and net.eth0 in default level? sshd depends/requires net.eth0 to be started and running. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] suspend2 with lvm
Hi Everyone: I use suspend2 and lvm at the same time. I use a lvm partition (/dev/vg/swap) as my suspend target by setting resume2=swap:/dev/vg/swap. I order to use make it work, I use initramfs. It works properly except that I get the following message when I shut down the computer: Unable to shutdown: /dev/vg/swap After some analyzing, I know it happens because the open count of /dev/vg/swap is 2 when the script /lib/rcscripts/addons/lvm-stop.sh is executed. Maybe this is the problem of baselayout or my initramfs. How can I resolve it? My initramfs is at http://lcs.ios.ac.cn/~scwang/docs/initramfs_data.cpio.gz The following is my some information of my system: $ uname -a $ Linux x31 2.6.16-suspend2-r8 #40 PREEMPT Fri Sep 29 14:25:38 CST 2006 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1500MHz GNU/Linux $ lvdisplay /dev/vg/swap $ --- Logical volume --- LV Name/dev/vg/swap VG Namevg LV UUIDE6oRRu-qkza-XIb5-TnGw-rGak-v7Kr-Jr5qZL LV Write Accessread/write LV Status available # open 2 LV Size1000.00 MB Current LE 250 Segments 1 Allocation inherit Read ahead sectors 0 Block device 254:4 -- Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 70C2 6945 0E46 E08B 419A 007C AC5C F21F 358A 0833 You can get my publickey from the following url: http://lcs.ios.ac.cn/~scwang/docs/scwangpublickey.gpg -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] USB Mouse Problem
Dear All,I have setup the Linux box using Gentoo 2006.1 with according it's instruction. every things are working find, but the problem is my USB Mouse is moving very slowly, but other software like FireFox, open office working fast. please help me on this. Thanking You all,Suranga
Re: [gentoo-user] * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 10:57:10AM +0300, Daniel Iliev wrote: Shaochun Wang wrote: Does anyone tell me what this mean and how to correct it? Is your sshd in boot level and net.eth0 in default level? sshd depends/requires net.eth0 to be started and running. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Both are in the default level. -- Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 70C2 6945 0E46 E08B 419A 007C AC5C F21F 358A 0833 You can get my publickey from the following url: http://lcs.ios.ac.cn/~scwang/docs/scwangpublickey.gpg -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started
Shaochun Wang wrote: On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 10:57:10AM +0300, Daniel Iliev wrote: Shaochun Wang wrote: Does anyone tell me what this mean and how to correct it? Is your sshd in boot level and net.eth0 in default level? sshd depends/requires net.eth0 to be started and running. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Both are in the default level. Is net.eth0 starting and working properly? -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started
As fas as I understand it, this messages means, that the start of net.eth0 is backgrounding, because it can take some ticks. The next init-prozess is starting immediately afterward, before net.eth0 is up. If a init-process is started, before net.eth0 is up (in your case sshd), than it will go in the background, too, and waits, until net.eth0 is up and then it will start. Going in the background and waiting generates the schedule message. Since I put this stuff together on my own, I do not know, if it is correct. Can anyone confirm this? Cheers Marc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started
Marc Blumentritt wrote: As fas as I understand it, this messages means, that the start of net.eth0 is backgrounding, because it can take some ticks. The next init-prozess is starting immediately afterward, before net.eth0 is up. If a init-process is started, before net.eth0 is up (in your case sshd), than it will go in the background, too, and waits, until net.eth0 is up and then it will start. Going in the background and waiting generates the schedule message. Since I put this stuff together on my own, I do not know, if it is correct. Can anyone confirm this? Cheers Marc Yes. I had a similar or the same output when there was a faulty netplugd here which was preventing eth0 to start. Then not only ssh but all the services that depend on eth0 were giving this schedule message. I was running my eth manually until I found the problem with after I got help here from this mailing list. Actually I think that OP's problem is eth0, not sshd but I'm just guessing because I haven't enough info. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] reverse dependencies
hello i want to know a good tool for reverse dependencies stuff. for example, gnutls broke my system yesterday but revdep or equery dont took me all impacted packages. But a ldd on the impacted program show me my soname (libgnutls.so.*) so i want to know all packages depending on /usr/lib/libgnutls.* for example or maybe on all binaries/libraries.given by equery files package, a kind of recursively ldd program on other binaries and libraries files which returns me depending on packages. -- Cordialement, KiORKY Linux BSD powered -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] How to connect my analog telephone in to asterisk system
Dear all, I going to setup basic Gentoo asterisk system for a testing purpose, i have a X100P FXO PCI card and i'm going to use it to connect it PSTN line to asterisk box. so my problem is how do i connect my other normal anolog phones(FXS) to asterisk box. suranga
Re: [gentoo-user] reverse dependencies
kiorky a gentiment tapote: hello i want to know a good tool for reverse dependencies stuff. for example, gnutls broke my system yesterday but revdep or equery dont took me all impacted packages. But a ldd on the impacted program show me my soname (libgnutls.so.*) so i want to know all packages depending on /usr/lib/libgnutls.* for example or maybe on all binaries/libraries.given by equery files package, a kind of recursively ldd program on other binaries and libraries files which returns me depending on packages. Hi, try udept #emerge app-portage/udept #dep -L package Regards Ptitjack -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -D pulling in more than it should these days?!
Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I belive you're seeing is that there have been new flags added or removed from ebuilds and therefor there is need to rebuild a lot of packages to make everything fall in line. For myself recently I saw a lot of perl packages rebuilt because the 'minimal' USE flag was set as '-' by default instead of not at all (or something like that). But that is covered by the -N (--newuse) flag, not the -D flag. I must admit that the only time I use -D is with the 'world' target not individual packages. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg is unable to detect mouse
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nope! I agree with the OP. My plain 2 buttons + scroller mouse wasn't detected too. So I copied my old xorg.conf. I really think xorg configuration should be more user friendly. Woking X is crucial for not getting newbies scared. ;-) Especially when the X started by the LiveCD for the graphical installer manages to correctly detect a working screen resolution, mouse etc. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 10:59:53AM +0200, Marc Blumentritt wrote: As fas as I understand it, this messages means, that the start of net.eth0 is backgrounding, because it can take some ticks. The next init-prozess is starting immediately afterward, before net.eth0 is up. If a init-process is started, before net.eth0 is up (in your case sshd), than it will go in the background, too, and waits, until net.eth0 is up and then it will start. Going in the background and waiting generates the schedule message. Since I put this stuff together on my own, I do not know, if it is correct. Can anyone confirm this? Cheers Marc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I think you are right, but how to disable the anonying message? -- Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 70C2 6945 0E46 E08B 419A 007C AC5C F21F 358A 0833 You can get my publickey from the following url: http://lcs.ios.ac.cn/~scwang/docs/scwangpublickey.gpg -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] upgrading a large package, say Xorg
Hello, Recently I went to emerge ipodder, a program I've never used before but was interested in trying out. Unfortunately it had a dependency on pythonwx = version 2.6, which in turn had a dependency on wxGTK = version 2.6, which in turn wanted me to upgrade my entire Xorg installation... (I'm runnig 6.9). Not particularly wanting to do this, I hacked my way around it. (seems it works just fine with wxGTK/wxpython 2.4, which required no Xorg upgrade). But later on I decided what the hell, I may as well upgrade X. However, when I attempt emerge xorg-base/xorg-x11, I get a whole list of Blocked packages, the gist of it being my installation of x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 is blocking... everything. I was thinking that emerge could handle this type of situation since I'm doing an upgrade - that it would unmerge the old stuff and emerge the new stuff as it went along. Is my only option to manually unmerge my current x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (and I have hundreds of packages I've emerge'd that depend on it, naturally), then emerge x11-base/xorg-x11 to get the new version (7.1 I believe?). Or is there a better way? thanks for any and all advice for this Gentoo fan, -- John Newman Systems Administrator Webii.net -- A WebXess, Inc. Company -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started
Shaochun Wang schrieb: On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 10:59:53AM +0200, Marc Blumentritt wrote: As fas as I understand it, this messages means, that the start of net.eth0 is backgrounding, because it can take some ticks. The next init-prozess is starting immediately afterward, before net.eth0 is up. If a init-process is started, before net.eth0 is up (in your case sshd), than it will go in the background, too, and waits, until net.eth0 is up and then it will start. Going in the background and waiting generates the schedule message. Since I put this stuff together on my own, I do not know, if it is correct. Can anyone confirm this? Cheers Marc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I think you are right, but how to disable the anonying message? Hmm, i do not think, that this should be disabled. It tells you: Well, I started sshd, but it will only run, when net.eth0 comes up! So if sshd does not start, you know there is a problem with net.eth0 and not sshd. Or so I hope... At first I was irritated, too, but now I just do not care. For me, this message is as good as service foo has been started... Cheers Marc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading a large package, say Xorg
On Friday 29 September 2006 14:46, John Newman wrote: [SNIP] But later on I decided what the hell, I may as well upgrade X. However, when I attempt emerge xorg-base/xorg-x11, I get a whole list of Blocked packages, the gist of it being my installation of x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 is blocking... everything. Actually it says x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 or something like that (you obviously didn't bother to show us...). You are running xorg-x11-6.8.x. I was thinking that emerge could handle this type of situation since I'm doing an upgrade - that it would unmerge the old stuff and emerge the new stuff as it went along. Nope. Is my only option to manually unmerge my current x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (and I have hundreds of packages I've emerge'd that depend on it, naturally), then emerge x11-base/xorg-x11 to get the new version (7.1 I believe?). Or is there a better way? I believe the upgrade guide should suffice [1]. And yes, it does tell you to unmerge the old xorg-x11. Just follow that guide and you should be fine... [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml -- Bo Andresen pgp2RVg0ow7Ah.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] LyX 1.4.3
I'd like to to test Lyx 1.4.3 on my gentoo amd 64 box. Any ebuild available anywhere yet (it's not in the portage tree) , Thanks -- ~adj~ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started
On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 15:43 +0800, Shaochun Wang wrote: Does anyone tell me what this mean and how to correct it? Don't you want sshd to start when net.eth0 start? I know I do... -- Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 70C2 6945 0E46 E08B 419A 007C AC5C F21F 358A 0833 You can get my publickey from the following url: http://lcs.ios.ac.cn/~scwang/docs/scwangpublickey.gpg -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LyX 1.4.3
Am Freitag, 29. September 2006 15:11 schrieb ext [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'd like to to test Lyx 1.4.3 on my gentoo amd 64 box. Any ebuild available anywhere yet (it's not in the portage tree) , Take the latest one from portage, rename it and put it into your overlay. Then ebuild /path/to/ebuild digest and emerge -DNu world. HTH... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgpNbKy60IelS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] USB Mouse Problem
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 02:02:43PM +0600, Penguin Lover Suranga Kasthuriarachchi squawked: instruction. every things are working find, but the problem is my USB Mouse is moving very slowly, but other software like FireFox, open office working fast. please help me on this. If you just want to speed up the motion of the cursor on your screen, try xset mouse insert some number here see 'man xset' for details. W -- The main reception foyer was almost empty but Ford nevertheless weaved his way through it. - Ford making his way out of Milliways whilst under the influence of enough alchol to make a rhino sing. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 35 days, 7:00 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] * WARNING: sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started
On 29 September 2006 09:57, Daniel Iliev wrote: Shaochun Wang wrote: Does anyone tell me what this mean and how to correct it? Is your sshd in boot level and net.eth0 in default level? sshd depends/requires net.eth0 to be started and running. Except for net.lo no network-related service should be started in runlevel boot. Otherwise3 you are not able to define a networkless runlevel. Uwe -- Mark Twain: I rather decline two drinks than a German adjective. http://www.SysEx.com.na -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to connect my analog telephone in to asterisk system
On Friday 29 September 2006 12:18, Suranga Kasthuriarachchi wrote: I going to setup basic Gentoo asterisk system for a testing purpose, i have a X100P FXO PCI card and i'm going to use it to connect it PSTN line to asterisk box. so my problem is how do i connect my other normal anolog phones(FXS) to asterisk box. Either get an FXS card, or an ATA to turn it into a SIP device. -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] cleaning up my gentoo
Hello I would like to clean up my gentoo installation. I'm using it for more than a year and now I would like to make it thiner. I'm aware of some tools doing that: emerge deepclean rm /usr/portage/disfiles/* What about old ebuilds in /usr/portage/ directory should they be removed as well. What about other things that I'm not aware of. Is there any common procedure/script/command for cleaning up my gentoo. I've already performed all above steps and I'm asking about what else should be done to clean up my gentoo and maybe make it thiner without decreasing its functionality. Thank You for any Help __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading a large package, say Xorg
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 02:57:43PM +0200, Bo ?rsted Andresen wrote: On Friday 29 September 2006 14:46, John Newman wrote: [SNIP] But later on I decided what the hell, I may as well upgrade X. However, when I attempt emerge xorg-base/xorg-x11, I get a whole list of Blocked packages, the gist of it being my installation of x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 is blocking... everything. Actually it says x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 or something like that (you obviously didn't bother to show us...). You are running xorg-x11-6.8.x. The stuff looks like this: [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-drivers/xf86-video-tga-1.1.0) [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-drivers/xf86-video-s3-0.4.1) [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking x11-drivers/xf86-video-cyrix-1.1.0) ... etc. You're right, I'm running 6.8. Anyway, thanks for the link to the upgrade guide. I'll mess with it when I get some free time. -- john -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning up my gentoo
On 9/29/06, Pawel K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I would like to clean up my gentoo installation. I'm using it for more than a year and now I would like to make it thiner. I'm aware of some tools doing that: emerge deepclean rm /usr/portage/disfiles/* What about old ebuilds in /usr/portage/ directory should they be removed as well. What about other things that I'm not aware of. They should be automatically removed with rsync. Is there any common procedure/script/command for cleaning up my gentoo. You may find A LOT of these scripts at the Gentoo Foruns. Take a look there... I've already performed all above steps and I'm asking about what else should be done to clean up my gentoo and maybe make it thiner without decreasing its functionality. This may help: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Clean_Up_Cruft -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: date-specific cp/mv
How did you use it? $find ~/music (-type f, -fstype mp3) (-mtime, -mmin, -ctime) (72, 3, 4810, whatever) -exec cp {} ~/music-bkp \; And it never said bad option or file not found. -Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] date-specific cp/mv RESOLVED
I believe the right syntax is: find /path/dir -type f -ctime -3 This should mean show all files created for the last 3 days. Use -3 not 3 That's it :) -Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] exporting mp3 in audacity crashes pc
Hi group, When I try to export an mp3 in audacity a box opens which tells me it must search for libmp3lame.so. Then another box opens indicating it found the file in /usr/libs and offers me the choice: cancel or open. I click the button marked 'open'(Didn't know you could open library files) and the PC crashes forcing a hard reset. The same thing happens when I use Edit-Preferences-File formats Of course when I click cancel nothing happens and I'm back to square one. -Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] GTK user administration tool
Hi all, I'm looking for some gtk application that I can administrate users on my BOX, can't be requered Gnome, KDE or XFCE, pure GTK. Thanks. All the best -- Wagner Vaz Blog: http://wagnervaz.wordpress.com Linux User: 372744 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: date-specific cp/mv
· maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How did you use it? $find ~/music (-type f, -fstype mp3) (-mtime, -mmin, -ctime) (72, 3, 4810, whatever) -exec cp {} ~/music-bkp \; Well, actually, I don't wonder that *this* command did not work. That's not at all even *close* to legal syntax. Alexander Skwar -- To say that UNIX is doomed is pretty rabid, OS/2 will certainly play a role, but you don't build a hundred million instructions per second multiprocessor micro and then try to run it on OS/2. I mean, get serious. -- William Zachmann, International Data Corp -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading a large package, say Xorg
On 9/29/06, John Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Recently I went to emerge ipodder, a program I've never used before but was interested in trying out. Unfortunately it had a dependency on pythonwx = version 2.6, which in turn had a dependency on wxGTK = version 2.6, which in turn wanted me to upgrade my entire Xorg installation... (I'm runnig 6.9). Not particularly wanting to do this, I hacked my way around it. (seems it works just fine with wxGTK/wxpython 2.4, which required no Xorg upgrade). But later on I decided what the hell, I may as well upgrade X. However, when I attempt emerge xorg-base/xorg-x11, I get a whole list of Blocked packages, the gist of it being my installation of x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 is blocking... everything. I was thinking that emerge could handle this type of situation since I'm doing an upgrade - that it would unmerge the old stuff and emerge the new stuff as it went along. The Modulas X upgrade is not that simple, its a change on the whole structure of Xorg, not only a source code upgrade with few implications, it also requires some configuration and attention in order to make your X system run after the upgrade. Is my only option to manually unmerge my current x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (and I have hundreds of packages I've emerge'd that depend on it, naturally), then emerge x11-base/xorg-x11 to get the new version (7.1 I believe?). Or is there a better way? You'll find the Modular X HOWTO at Gentoo Docs. It is pretty intersting! -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg is unable to detect mouse
Daniel,In case you had not noticed, compiling the entire distro from source is not the newbie way to install a linux distro either. I think if you're that worried about autoconfiguration, you should probably look elsewhere. Daniel lliev wrote: Nope! I agree with the OP. My plain 2 buttons + scroller mouse wasn't detected too. So I copied my old xorg.conf. I really think xorg configuration should be more user friendly. Woking X is crucial for not getting newbies scared. ;-)-- Jason Weisberger[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [gentoo-user] suspend2 with lvm
On 9/29/06, Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unable to shutdown: /dev/vg/swap After some analyzing, I know it happens because the open count of /dev/vg/swap is 2 when the script /lib/rcscripts/addons/lvm-stop.sh is executed. Maybe this is the problem of baselayout or my initramfs. How can I resolve it? I assume this is when you fully shutdown the system (shutdown -h now or similar)? If so, my first instinct is to simply ignore it, since it is totally harmless. But I suppose you could put this in your /etc/conf.d/local.stop: echo 0x /proc/suspend2/resume2 I'm not currently using suspend2, but IIRC, this should clear the reference that suspend2 has on the device. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] new foomatic-filters ebuild
Anyone know why the 3.0.2-r1 ebuild is blocking the current, stable foomatic-db? [blocks B ] net-print/foomatic-db-20050910 (is blocking net-print/foomatic-filters-3.0.2-r1) I discovered this just before I did an update world. I can't find any reference to a bug, there are no notes in the Changelog or within the ebuild to suggest why it's blocking. The block wasn't in 3.0.2.ebuild which I'm currently running with db-20050606. The closest reference I could find had to do with filters and db overwriting each others files, but that bug's resolution was a remerge of db (and that particular bug is a year old). I just finished a hellish afternoon getting my girlfriend's mac to play nice with my printer and I don't want to clobber anything. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks! -Nick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] reverse dependencies
On 9/29/06, kiorky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello i want to know a good tool for reverse dependencies stuff. for example, gnutls broke my system yesterday but revdep or equery dont took me all impacted packages. But a ldd on the impacted program show me my soname (libgnutls.so.*) so i want to know all packages depending on /usr/lib/libgnutls.* for What you really want is: revdep-rebuild -p --library 'libgnutls.*' BTW, you should have seen something like this, either on the screen or in the /var/log/portage/elog/ files (assuming you have ELOG setup for your system!) ewarn You must re-compile all packages that are linked against ewarn Gnutls-1.2.11 by using revdep-rebuild from gentoolkit: ewarn # revdep-rebuild --library libgnutls.so.12 Regards, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] JMicron confusion
I'm looking at upgrading to a Core 2 Duo system, and looking at the Asus P5B series of motherboards. I've found a couple forum posts (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-494387-highlight-p965.html and http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-498160-highlight-p965.html) that seem to indicate troubles with JMicron support in kernels. Is this something I should be concerned about? The forum discussions seem to indicate that the problem is unresolved, indicating to me that I should look elsewhere for motherboards. -- Ryan W Sims () ascii ribbon /\ campaign - against html mail - against proprietary attachments -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new foomatic-filters ebuild
On 9/29/06, Nick Geron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know why the 3.0.2-r1 ebuild is blocking the current, stable foomatic-db? [blocks B ] net-print/foomatic-db-20050910 (is blocking net-print/foomatic-filters-3.0.2-r1) I discovered this just before I did an update world. I can't find any reference to a bug, there are no notes in the Changelog or within the ebuild to suggest why it's blocking. The block wasn't in 3.0.2.ebuild which I'm currently running with db-20050606. The closest reference I could find had to do with filters and db overwriting each others files, but that bug's resolution was a remerge of db (and that particular bug is a year old). From /usr/portage/foomatic-filters/ChangeLog: *foomatic-filters-3.0.2-r1 (05 May 2006) 05 May 2006; Stefan Schweizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] +foomatic-filters-3.0.2-r1.ebuild: rev-bump foomatic-filters to force remerge, no changes apart from the foomatic-db-old block, stable from the beginning, bug 131533 Also, the block is on foomatic-db versions less than 20050910, which is currently stable. So if you have 20050910 installed, you should be ok. What does emerge -pv foomatic-db report? You might also add the --tree option to see what is pulling in foomatic-filters, what is going to be upgraded, or installed new, etc. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: date-specific cp/mv
Alexander Skwar wrote: · maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How did you use it? $find ~/music (-type f, -fstype mp3) (-mtime, -mmin, -ctime) (72, 3, 4810, whatever) -exec cp {} ~/music-bkp \; Well, actually, I don't wonder that *this* command did not work. That's not at all even *close* to legal syntax. Alexander Skwar Well, I think that by the parenthesis Mr. Wexler wanted to show he had tried all the variations, not that it is the exact command. I was also very pissed off when I had to discover that the find manual page isn't very correct. It never made clear that -ctime 3 means now plus 3 days and -ctime -3 means now minus 3 days. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: date-specific cp/mv
On 9/29/06, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tried all the variations, not that it is the exact command. I was also very pissed off when I had to discover that the find manual page isn't very correct. It never made clear that -ctime 3 means now plus 3 days and -ctime -3 means now minus 3 days. Well the man page does have this paragraph in it (emphasis added): If you are using find in an environment where security is important (for example if you are using it to seach directories that are writable by other users), you should read the Security Considerations chapter of the findutils documentation, which is called Finding Files and comes with findutils. **That document also includes a lot more detail and discussion than this manual page, so you may find it a more useful source of information.** So you can get better documentation from the info pages by running info find.info. If you want specifics on the time options: # info find.info Finding Files Time BTW, in programmer speak, now plus 3 days would be interpreted as 3 days in the future...which is _not_ how find works. To try and clarify: -mtime 2 - files modified between 48 and 72 hours ago. -mtime -2 - files modified in the last 2 days...the period between 0 and 48 hours ago. -mtime +2 - files modified more than 48 hours ago HTH, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new foomatic-filters ebuild
Thanks for the quick response Richard:) I did see that note, but i wasn't sure what they meant by 'foomatic-db-old block'. On that note, looking at it again I see my brain farted. I know I can force installs if so desired. To answer your question, portage will update to 20050910 without complaint, however, I was looking for a good explaination of why it was blocked. I want to determine if updating and forcing/ignoring foomatic-filters in an update word would result in another weekend of cups debugging. If 'foomatic-db-old block' means that I just have to remerge one of them again, like in that old bug report I found, then great. No problem. I've just read too many forum posts with 'I upgraded with stable package X and now everythings borked.' Equeries tell me that filters are required by the foomatic-db and db-engine - effectively foomatic/printing. Has anyone done a recent printing system upgrade? Any reported trouble running filters 3.0.2-r1 with db 20050910? Are the filters identical between 3.0.2 and 3.0.2-r1? -nick Richard Fish wrote: On 9/29/06, Nick Geron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know why the 3.0.2-r1 ebuild is blocking the current, stable foomatic-db? [blocks B ] net-print/foomatic-db-20050910 (is blocking net-print/foomatic-filters-3.0.2-r1) I discovered this just before I did an update world. I can't find any reference to a bug, there are no notes in the Changelog or within the ebuild to suggest why it's blocking. The block wasn't in 3.0.2.ebuild which I'm currently running with db-20050606. The closest reference I could find had to do with filters and db overwriting each others files, but that bug's resolution was a remerge of db (and that particular bug is a year old). From /usr/portage/foomatic-filters/ChangeLog: *foomatic-filters-3.0.2-r1 (05 May 2006) 05 May 2006; Stefan Schweizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] +foomatic-filters-3.0.2-r1.ebuild: rev-bump foomatic-filters to force remerge, no changes apart from the foomatic-db-old block, stable from the beginning, bug 131533 Also, the block is on foomatic-db versions less than 20050910, which is currently stable. So if you have 20050910 installed, you should be ok. What does emerge -pv foomatic-db report? You might also add the --tree option to see what is pulling in foomatic-filters, what is going to be upgraded, or installed new, etc. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: date-specific cp/mv
Richard Fish wrote: On 9/29/06, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tried all the variations, not that it is the exact command. I was also very pissed off when I had to discover that the find manual page isn't very correct. It never made clear that -ctime 3 means now plus 3 days and -ctime -3 means now minus 3 days. Well the man page does have this paragraph in it (emphasis added): If you are using find in an environment where security is important (for example if you are using it to seach directories that are writable by other users), you should read the Security Considerations chapter of the findutils documentation, which is called Finding Files and comes with findutils. **That document also includes a lot more detail and discussion than this manual page, so you may find it a more useful source of information.** So you can get better documentation from the info pages by running info find.info. If you want specifics on the time options: # info find.info Finding Files Time BTW, in programmer speak, now plus 3 days would be interpreted as 3 days in the future...which is _not_ how find works. To try and clarify: -mtime 2 - files modified between 48 and 72 hours ago. -mtime -2 - files modified in the last 2 days...the period between 0 and 48 hours ago. -mtime +2 - files modified more than 48 hours ago HTH, -Richard Point taken! Thanks for the clarification, Richard! -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hooks for Portage 2.1?
hi, Would anyone happen to know where the API for Portage 2.1, that explains the new hook framework layout? I'm not sure such documentation exists... What do you want to do? i would like to have a script (usage e.g. emerge_patch package path/patch_file) which would emerge a given package and apply given patch after source unpack phase. as i understood some time ago the hooks could be used for it, but i havent found any hint how to use them. pavel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 as a dependency
Grant wrote: I'm setting up a new system and I've noticed that xorg-x11 isn't emerged as a dependency of mozilla-firefox or xfce4, although neither of them will run without it. Can anyone tell me why this is? - Grant You could run firefox for example on a remote X server... -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: JMicron confusion
On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking at upgrading to a Core 2 Duo system, and looking at the Asus P5B series of motherboards. I've found a couple forum posts (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-494387-highlight-p965.html and http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-498160-highlight-p965.html) that seem to indicate troubles with JMicron support in kernels. Is this something I should be concerned about? The forum discussions seem to indicate that the problem is unresolved, indicating to me that I should look elsewhere for motherboards. Let me rephrase my question: If I only use SATA drives, non RAID, they only run through the P975 southbridge, and I should be ok, right? Or am I wrong? -- Ryan W Sims () ascii ribbon /\ campaign - against html mail - against proprietary attachments -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: date-specific cp/mv
On 9/29/06, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Fish wrote: -mtime -2 - files modified in the last 2 days...the period between 0 and 48 hours ago. Point taken! Thanks for the clarification, Richard! And just to show that this is really hard to describe correctly...I screwed this one up. It should be: -mtime -2 - files modified since 2 days ago...the period between 48 hours ago and any point in the future. ;-) -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Suspend to RAM problem
Hi All, Whenever I suspend my Evo N600c to RAM, it goes to sleep fine, but when I press the power button to resume the laptop wakes up, but the screen remains blank. Then all I can do is hold down the On/Off button for 5 seconds to force a shutdown. dmesg is telling me that ACPI support the following states: === ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S3 S4 S5) === Would you know of a fix? Is this a BIOS problem? PS. What's the difference between Standby and Suspend to RAM? -- Regards, Mick pgpwwc46MZTeQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] JMicron confusion
On Friday 29 September 2006 21:28, Ryan Sims wrote: I'm looking at upgrading to a Core 2 Duo system, and looking at the Asus P5B series of motherboards. I've found a couple forum posts (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-494387-highlight-p965.html and http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-498160-highlight-p965.html) that seem to indicate troubles with JMicron support in kernels. Is this something I should be concerned about? The forum discussions seem to indicate that the problem is unresolved, indicating to me that I should look elsewhere for motherboards. I am using this one: 03:00.0 SATA controller: JMicron Technologies, Inc. JMicron 20360/20363 AHCI Controller without any troubles. It is important to have a fairly recent kernel. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: JMicron confusion
On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me rephrase my question: If I only use SATA drives, non RAID, they only run through the P975 southbridge, and I should be ok, right? Well I don't own one of these things, but it looks like the SATA stuff goes through the JMicron chip, while the RAID is provided by the 975. It should be possible to get working, but I expect you'll have trouble with installation. It looks like the JMicron SATA support was added in 2.6.18, so I wouldn't really expect the 2006.1 liveCD to use the chip optimally, if at all. You might end up hunting down a different live CD, needing to stage it on a different system, or something else similarly difficult. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 as a dependency
On 9/29/06, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm setting up a new system and I've noticed that xorg-x11 isn't emerged as a dependency of mozilla-firefox or xfce4, although neither of them will run without it. Can anyone tell me why this is? This is because of the change to modular X. xorg-x11 is now just a meta-package that brings in all of the xorg packages. Other packages in the tree are *not* supposed to depend on xorg-x11, but only on those specific packages that they really require to run. If you want an X server locally, you need to also merge xorg-server. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: JMicron confusion
On 9/29/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me rephrase my question: If I only use SATA drives, non RAID, they only run through the P975 southbridge, and I should be ok, right? Well I don't own one of these things, but it looks like the SATA stuff goes through the JMicron chip, while the RAID is provided by the 975. I thought it was the other way around? Southbridge - 4 x SATA 3.0 Gb/s ports JMicron(r) JMB363 PATA and SATA controller - 1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66 for up to 2 PATA devices - 1 x Internal SATA 3.0 Gb/s port - 1 x External SATA 3.0 Gb/s port (SATA On-the-Go) - Support SATA RAID 0, 1 and JBOD (from http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2model=1178l1=3l2=11l3=307) That seems to say that 4 SATA drives can go through the Southbridge (P965, typo earlier, sorry) -- Ryan W Sims () ascii ribbon /\ campaign - against html mail - against proprietary attachments -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-x11 as a dependency
On Friday 29 September 2006 23:53, Grant wrote: I'm setting up a new system and I've noticed that xorg-x11 isn't emerged as a dependency of mozilla-firefox or xfce4, although neither of them will run without it. Can anyone tell me why this is? xorg-x11 is a meta package that provides much more then is needed to run firefox or xfce. Like Daniel says it's possible to use them on a remote X server, so there is no need for a full blown X server installation. The packages depend only on the parts of xorg that are needed to run it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: JMicron confusion
On Saturday 30 September 2006 00:52, Richard Fish wrote: On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me rephrase my question: If I only use SATA drives, non RAID, they only run through the P975 southbridge, and I should be ok, right? Well I don't own one of these things, but it looks like the SATA stuff goes through the JMicron chip, while the RAID is provided by the 975. It should be possible to get working, but I expect you'll have trouble with installation. It looks like the JMicron SATA support was added in 2.6.18, so I wouldn't really expect the 2006.1 liveCD to use the chip optimally, if at all. You might end up hunting down a different live CD, needing to stage it on a different system, or something else similarly difficult. jmicron-support was added to 2.6.16. But I am not sure that it was added for ALL jmicron controller ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: JMicron confusion
On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/29/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me rephrase my question: If I only use SATA drives, non RAID, they only run through the P975 southbridge, and I should be ok, right? Well I don't own one of these things, but it looks like the SATA stuff goes through the JMicron chip, while the RAID is provided by the 975. I thought it was the other way around? Maybe...as I said I don't have one of these beasties, and I was inferring based on someone else's lspci output from the forums. Either way, there is no guarantee, as 965 support still had issues until 2.6.18. Anyway, some recent threads from -amd64 might be helpful: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.amd64/8975 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.amd64/8870/focus=8870 (ignore the this isn't amd so go away crap from the second one) -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new foomatic-filters ebuild
060929 Nick Geron wrote: Any reported trouble running filters 3.0.2-r1 with db 20050910? My homemade list of installed packages tells me W 040921 net-print/foomatic-3.0.2 060429 net-print/foomatic-db-20050910 [for foomatic] 060528 net-print/foomatic-db-engine-3.0.2 [for foomatic] 060507 net-print/foomatic-filters-3.0.2-r1 [for foomatic] ie Foomatic is in world -- which I never update as such -- the other 3 pkgs were installed to support it on the dates shown. So I've had your 2 helping run my printer for some time without problems. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: JMicron confusion
Ryan Sims wrote: On 9/29/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me rephrase my question: If I only use SATA drives, non RAID, they only run through the P975 southbridge, and I should be ok, right? Well I don't own one of these things, but it looks like the SATA stuff goes through the JMicron chip, while the RAID is provided by the 975. I thought it was the other way around? Southbridge - 4 x SATA 3.0 Gb/s ports JMicron(r) JMB363 PATA and SATA controller - 1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66 for up to 2 PATA devices - 1 x Internal SATA 3.0 Gb/s port - 1 x External SATA 3.0 Gb/s port (SATA On-the-Go) - Support SATA RAID 0, 1 and JBOD (from http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2model=1178l1=3l2=11l3=307) That seems to say that 4 SATA drives can go through the Southbridge (P965, typo earlier, sorry) Yeah - looks like it is for that board - as it uses ICH8 for plain old SATA and JMicron for RAID, other similar boards seem to use ICH8R for RAID and JMicron for plain old SATA... just to add to the confusion :-) Cheers Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg is unable to detect mouse
On 9/29/06, Jason Weisberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel,In case you had not noticed, compiling the entire distro from source is not the newbie way to install a linux distro either. I think if you're that worried about autoconfiguration, you should probably look elsewhere. Daniel lliev wrote: Nope! I agree with the OP. My plain 2 buttons + scroller mouse wasn't detected too. So I copied my old xorg.conf. I really think xorg configuration should be more user friendly. Woking X is crucial for not getting newbies scared. ;-)-- Jason Weisberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] The solution is to set your mouse to /dev/input/mice, and add the line to your mouse section 'Option ZAxisMapping 4 5'. there done the scroll wheel will work.
Re: [gentoo-user] Hooks for Portage 2.1?
On Friday 29 September 2006 23:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would like to have a script (usage e.g. emerge_patch package path/patch_file) which would emerge a given package and apply given patch after source unpack phase. as i understood some time ago the hooks could be used for it, but i havent found any hint how to use them. I don't think the hooks are useful for that. Why not just copy the ebuild to an overlay and apply the patch in the ebuild in the overlay? I think [1] tells you everything you need to know to do that? [1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_an_Updated_Ebuild -- Bo Andresen pgpyeLtijYlFy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 as a dependency
On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 14:53 -0700, Grant wrote: I'm setting up a new system and I've noticed that xorg-x11 isn't emerged as a dependency of mozilla-firefox or xfce4, although neither of them will run without it. Can anyone tell me why this is? it also depends on what you define as the normal use of your machine - if you say that your machine is a desktop machine, then you _want_ X to be a dependancy of firefox, etc. If however you are setting up a server, then you _don't_ want X to be a dependancy of such. The way to define this, is of course with you profile. If you've just set up a new machine, you may have overlooked the fact that there are now different profiles. /etc/make.profile used to point to (eg) ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0 now it should point to ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.1/desktop or ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.1/server HTH, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au When you make your mark in the world, watch out for guys with erasers. -- The Wall Street Journal -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [nomerge] ?
Hi, when doing a eix-sync emerge --pretend --tree --verbose --update --deep world I got often an output like this one: [nomerge ] perl-core/Test-Harness-2.56 I looked in the manual pages of emerge and ebuild but found no explanaition for the [nomerge] tag. What does it mean? For heavens sake! -- DONT install THAT! ??? :O) ;) Keep hacking! mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [nomerge] ?
Meino Christian Cramer wrote: [...] When using --tree, [nomerge] denotes packages that are depended on by the one you want to install, but are already installed, so they won't be merged again. They're there simply to show a more complete dep tree. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [nomerge] ?
On Saturday 30 September 2006 03:41, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: when doing a eix-sync emerge --pretend --tree --verbose --update --deep world I got often an output like this one: [nomerge ] perl-core/Test-Harness-2.56 I looked in the manual pages of emerge and ebuild but found no explanaition for the [nomerge] tag. What does it mean? For heavens sake! -- DONT install THAT! ??? :O) ;) It means it's already installed and whatever follows it is being pulled in by it... (or it is in the PDEPEND/postdepend of what follows it). This particular package is actually in PDEPEND of dev-lang/perl. It should be followed by at least one line that says [merge] and due to --tree this shows what pulls that in. I do realize that the output when adding --tree to emerge isn't particular well documented (or easy to document) so interpreting it does require a bit of guessing (or looking at the ebuilds)... -- Bo Andresen pgpIAL5DuyVlq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: JMicron confusion
On 9/29/06, Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan Sims wrote: On 9/29/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me rephrase my question: If I only use SATA drives, non RAID, they only run through the P975 southbridge, and I should be ok, right? Well I don't own one of these things, but it looks like the SATA stuff goes through the JMicron chip, while the RAID is provided by the 975. I thought it was the other way around? Southbridge - 4 x SATA 3.0 Gb/s ports JMicron(r) JMB363 PATA and SATA controller - 1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66 for up to 2 PATA devices - 1 x Internal SATA 3.0 Gb/s port - 1 x External SATA 3.0 Gb/s port (SATA On-the-Go) - Support SATA RAID 0, 1 and JBOD (from http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2model=1178l1=3l2=11l3=307) That seems to say that 4 SATA drives can go through the Southbridge (P965, typo earlier, sorry) Yeah - looks like it is for that board - as it uses ICH8 for plain old SATA and JMicron for RAID, other similar boards seem to use ICH8R for RAID and JMicron for plain old SATA... just to add to the confusion :-) Confusion indeed ;) So how well is the ICH8 southbride supported? RAID isn't on my list of things to worry about, so if I try just straight-up SATA drives, will things work off of 2006.1, you think? -- Ryan W Sims () ascii ribbon /\ campaign - against html mail - against proprietary attachments -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: JMicron confusion
On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/29/06, Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan Sims wrote: On 9/29/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/29/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me rephrase my question: If I only use SATA drives, non RAID, they only run through the P975 southbridge, and I should be ok, right? Well I don't own one of these things, but it looks like the SATA stuff goes through the JMicron chip, while the RAID is provided by the 975. I thought it was the other way around? Southbridge - 4 x SATA 3.0 Gb/s ports JMicron(r) JMB363 PATA and SATA controller - 1 x UltraDMA 133/100/66 for up to 2 PATA devices - 1 x Internal SATA 3.0 Gb/s port - 1 x External SATA 3.0 Gb/s port (SATA On-the-Go) - Support SATA RAID 0, 1 and JBOD (from http://usa.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2model=1178l1=3l2=11l3=307) That seems to say that 4 SATA drives can go through the Southbridge (P965, typo earlier, sorry) Yeah - looks like it is for that board - as it uses ICH8 for plain old SATA and JMicron for RAID, other similar boards seem to use ICH8R for RAID and JMicron for plain old SATA... just to add to the confusion :-) Confusion indeed ;) So how well is the ICH8 southbride supported? RAID isn't on my list of things to worry about, so if I try just straight-up SATA drives, will things work off of 2006.1, you think? Nuts, ignore that. Just realized the optical drives will be PATA, which goes through the JMicron. Shoot. Looks like I'll have to give either kernelOfTruth's LiveCD a shot, or possibly roll my own. Or find a LiveCD for another distro that has 2.6.18 or so. Hmm. -- Ryan W Sims () ascii ribbon /\ campaign - against html mail - against proprietary attachments -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: JMicron confusion
Ryan Sims wrote: Nuts, ignore that. Just realized the optical drives will be PATA, which goes through the JMicron. Shoot. Looks like I'll have to give either kernelOfTruth's LiveCD a shot, or possibly roll my own. Or find a LiveCD for another distro that has 2.6.18 or so. Hmm. Yep - see if you can find a USB cdrom to boot the live cd off. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] fonts [was: upgrading a large package, say Xorg]
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:57:43 +0200 Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Friday 29 September 2006 14:46, John Newman wrote: [SNIP] But later on I decided what the hell, I may as well upgrade X. However, when I attempt emerge xorg-base/xorg-x11, I get a whole list of Blocked packages, the gist of it being my installation of x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 is blocking... everything. Actually it says x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 or something like that (you obviously didn't bother to show us...). You are running xorg-x11-6.8.x. I was thinking that emerge could handle this type of situation since I'm doing an upgrade - that it would unmerge the old stuff and emerge the new stuff as it went along. Nope. Is my only option to manually unmerge my current x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (and I have hundreds of packages I've emerge'd that depend on it, naturally), then emerge x11-base/xorg-x11 to get the new version (7.1 I believe?). Or is there a better way? I believe the upgrade guide should suffice [1]. And yes, it does tell you to unmerge the old xorg-x11. Just follow that guide and you should be fine... [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml Unmerging xorg-x11-6.9 and then emerging xorg-x11-7.0 does indeed work! The unmerge was down with bated breath :- The emerge went well and the system has been working well, though a problem has surfaced that I think is related. I've got an ATI Radeon card and was using ATI's official drivers which are xorg-x11-6.x compatible. Since ATI's drivers are not 7.x compatible I'm not using them. About the time of the change I noticed that fonts weren't looking as good as I recalled them being and suspect it's related. Sigh ... Any suggestions? Regards, David -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] fonts [was: upgrading a large package, say Xorg]
David Relson wrote: Since ATI's drivers are not 7.x compatible I'm not using them. Yes, they are. http://digg.com/linux_unix/ATI_Beats_nVidia_to_Xorg_7_1_Compatible_Drivers -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning up my gentoo
Daniel da Veiga wrote: On 9/29/06, Pawel K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I would like to clean up my gentoo installation. I'm using it for more than a year and now I would like to make it thiner. I'm aware of some tools doing that: emerge deepclean rm /usr/portage/disfiles/* What about old ebuilds in /usr/portage/ directory should they be removed as well. What about other things that I'm not aware of. They should be automatically removed with rsync. Is there any common procedure/script/command for cleaning up my gentoo. You may find A LOT of these scripts at the Gentoo Foruns. Take a look there... I've already performed all above steps and I'm asking about what else should be done to clean up my gentoo and maybe make it thiner without decreasing its functionality. This may help: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Clean_Up_Cruft Don't forget eclean too. eclean-pkg and eclean-dist to be more exact. That will take care of the distfiles and any packages you may have. Be carefull with that depclean. It can get ugly. o_O Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list