Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge apache
On Sunday 20 January 2008, Mike Diehl wrote: On Saturday 19 January 2008 03:12:23 am Roman Zilka wrote: Hi Mike! g++: /usr/lib/gcc/i486-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/crtbeginS.o: No such file or directory g++: /usr/lib/gcc/i486-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/crtendS.o: No such file or directory i486 - this is kinda weird for a brand new box. Ya, very weird. Here is what I've got in /etc/make.conf: CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu MAKEOPTS=-j2 Did you install from a stage3? You probably have not rebuilt gcc then. USE=-acl -cups -dri -fortran -gpm -iconv -ipv6 -isdnlog -midi -mudflap -nls -openmp -pppd -reflection -session -tcpd -truetype-fonts -type1-fonts -unicode -xorg Seems rational to me. The box is going to be a stripped-down server. What's does your 'emerge --info' look like? Maybe you've got a wrong CHOST set up. What does 'ls /usr/lib/gcc/*/*/crt*S.o' report (just to be sure)? Are you able to emerge any other packages? -rz # gcc-config -l [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 * # ls /usr/lib/gcc/*/*/crt*S.o /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/crtbeginS.o /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/crtendS.o It almost seems like it might be easier to start over What do you think? No, that will probably just land you up in exactly the same position. This isn't Windows where reinstalls produce random different results every time :-) Somehow apr is confused about which version of gcc you have. Rebuild your tool chain and try again. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Sunday 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: H, I get this blocker: [blocks B ] =x11-libs/qt-4.4_rc:4 (is blocking x11-libs/qt-core-4.4.0_rc1) Is unmerging qt a good idea? Yes, looking in the ebuild, qt-4.4 seems to be organized as a meta package and you have older monolithic ones. So you will have to unmerge your old qt-4 stuff first alan -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:06:45 +0100, Lowe Schmidt wrote: The scenario is a bit bizarre I'd say. It's hyperbole, definitely, but meant to illustrate that more users is good. Oh well. On Jan 18, 2008, at 7:46 PM, Thufir wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:04:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Nope. The Ubuntu developers would probably just carry on doing what they doing now - developing on Ubuntu. What makes you think they'd change? They would continue to develop it even if *no-one*, outside of the developers, used it? We'll have to agree to disagree on that, even if it's a bit of hyperbole. -Thufir -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] stuff accumulating in /tmp
On Sunday 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: Philip Webb wrote: A problem I have is that Firefox is not deleting .pdf files from /tmp after I have viewed saved them elsewhere (using Kpdf). There seems to be no place in Firefox or Kpdf settings to change this. Does anyone have a useful suggestion for automatically deleting them ? Since /tmp has been talked about on -dev, reboot will do it. Only if /tmp is a tmpfs. On a machine used as a desktop, this is a good idea as they are rebooted often and the FHS states that the contents of /tmp should not be relied on to survive a reboot. On a server style machine that is not rebooted often, tmpwatch running in a cron does a good job of this. alan -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] stuff accumulating in /tmp
On Sunday 20 January 2008, Philip Webb wrote: 080119 Kevin wrote: To automatically wipe /tmp upon reboot, change WIPE_TMP to yes in /etc/conf.d/bootmisc Thanks: I will consider the implications. There aren't any implications. By *definition*, the contents of /tmp should not be relied on to survive a reboot or even subsequent invocations of the same program. Any app that does rely on the contents of /tmp still being there is thus fundamentally broken in it's behaviour and should be avoided or fixed. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. Stinking dial-up. :-@ That will take a lng while. Most KDE4 packages are far larger than there KDE3 counterparts. Just as an example: kdebase-3.3.8.tar.bz2 was 24MB. Now we have three kdebase tarballs: kdebase 3.9MB kdebase-runtime 46MB kdebase-workspace29MB Good luck with dialup! Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: H, I get this blocker: [blocks B ] =x11-libs/qt-4.4_rc:4 (is blocking x11-libs/qt-core-4.4.0_rc1) Is unmerging qt a good idea? Yes, looking in the ebuild, qt-4.4 seems to be organized as a meta package and you have older monolithic ones. So you will have to unmerge your old qt-4 stuff first alan Thanks for the info. I know Python, portage, gcc and a couple others are bad to remove but I wasn't real sure about qt. I think I'll go to a console and do it all in one line, just to be sure. Wouldn't want KDE to crash in the middle of it. I usually use Konsole for that stuff. Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. Stinking dial-up. :-@ Thanks again. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Uwe Thiem wrote: On 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. Stinking dial-up. :-@ That will take a lng while. Most KDE4 packages are far larger than there KDE3 counterparts. Just as an example: kdebase-3.3.8.tar.bz2 was 24MB. Now we have three kdebase tarballs: kdebase 3.9MB kdebase-runtime 46MB kdebase-workspace29MB Good luck with dialup! Uwe Tell me about it. I have already been at it for about 15 hours or so. Total: 205 packages (2 upgrades, 80 new, 123 in new slots, 1 block), Size of downloads: 222,586 kB I used to think OOo was big. LOL DSL is supposed to be here soon tho, I hope. Dale :-) :-) P.S. I still have a OOo update in the mask section. Going to try KDE 4.0 first. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. Stinking dial-up. :-@ On a second thought: Can't a kind soul in the US send Dale the tarballs on a CD? (I'd do it, but it would take forever from here.) Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] No ebuild for kdeartwork-colorschemes ??
Hi all, My portage-fu is apparently up the creek. Again. Trying to emerge kde-4.0.0, I get this: == nazgul ~ # emerge -av kde-meta These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies | * * ERROR: kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes-4.0.0 failed. * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 1666: Called source '/var/portage/kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes/kdeartwork-colorschemes-4.0.0.ebuild' * kdeartwork-colorschemes-4.0.0.ebuild, line9: Called inherit 'kde4-meta' * ebuild.sh, line 1192: Called qa_source '/var/portage/local/layman/kde/eclass/kde4-meta.eclass' * ebuild.sh, line 36: Called source '/var/portage/local/layman/kde/eclass/kde4-meta.eclass' * kde4-meta.eclass, line 39: Called get-parent-package 'kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes' * kde4-functions.eclass, line 330: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * die Package $target not found in KDE_DERIVATION_MAP, please report bug * The die message: * Package not found in KDE_DERIVATION_MAP, please report bug * * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. * emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes-4.0.0:kde-4. (dependency required by kde-base/kdeartwork-meta-4.0.0 [ebuild]) = But the ebuild is there: = nazgul portage # eix kdeartwork-colorschemes * kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes Available versions: (kde-4) {M}(~)4.0.0 Homepage:http://www.kde.org/ Description: KDE extra colorschemes = And it's also keyworded and unmasked: = nazgul portage # grep -r kdeartwork-colorschemes /etc/portage/* /etc/portage/package.keywords/kde4:kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes ** /etc/portage/package.unmask/kde4:=kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes-4.0.0 = I don't want to submit a bug as per the error just yet as I'm sure I'm doing something wrong on my end (as usual). But what? alan -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No ebuild for kdeartwork-colorschemes ??
On 20 January 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, My portage-fu is apparently up the creek. Again. Trying to emerge kde-4.0.0, I get this: == nazgul ~ # emerge -av kde-meta These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies | * * ERROR: kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes-4.0.0 failed. * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 1666: Called source '/var/portage/kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes/kdeartwork-colorschemes-4.0. 0.ebuild' * kdeartwork-colorschemes-4.0.0.ebuild, line9: Called inherit 'kde4-meta' * ebuild.sh, line 1192: Called qa_source '/var/portage/local/layman/kde/eclass/kde4-meta.eclass' * ebuild.sh, line 36: Called source '/var/portage/local/layman/kde/eclass/kde4-meta.eclass' * kde4-meta.eclass, line 39: Called get-parent-package 'kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes' * kde4-functions.eclass, line 330: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * die Package $target not found in KDE_DERIVATION_MAP, please report bug * The die message: * Package not found in KDE_DERIVATION_MAP, please report bug * * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. * emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes-4.0.0:kde-4. (dependency required by kde-base/kdeartwork-meta-4.0.0 [ebuild]) = But the ebuild is there: = nazgul portage # eix kdeartwork-colorschemes * kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes Available versions: (kde-4) {M}(~)4.0.0 Homepage:http://www.kde.org/ Description: KDE extra colorschemes = And it's also keyworded and unmasked: = nazgul portage # grep -r kdeartwork-colorschemes /etc/portage/* /etc/portage/package.keywords/kde4:kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes ** /etc/portage/package.unmask/kde4:=kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes-4.0.0 = I don't want to submit a bug as per the error just yet as I'm sure I'm doing something wrong on my end (as usual). I just finished emerging KDE4 and are running revdep-rebuild now. I didn't get that error. That's no consolation, I know, but I guess something must be wrong on your side. Is the kdeartwork tarball actually in distfiles? Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Uwe Thiem wrote: On 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. Stinking dial-up. :-@ On a second thought: Can't a kind soul in the US send Dale the tarballs on a CD? (I'd do it, but it would take forever from here.) Uwe Heck, if the price is right, I'd order them. I try to order a new Gentoo install CD when it comes out, been a while I know, but it takes about a week to download a CD. Last one I got was when I was with my ex and we had cable then. Of course, I was told we would be getting DSL real soon. They have put in the new box, hooked up the fiber optic cables and stuff so far. They got to put in the cards that do the DSL thing next. I'm not sure when that will happen but shouldn't be to long. I been promised that I would be #1 on the list even if I was just a tester at first. Not real sure how to set up Linux to login yet but I'm sure I'll get something figured out. :-) Funny thing is, we were supposed to have DSL before hurricane Katrina hit but they had to go run new stuff down on the coast, which I totally understand too. Where we live, there are a lot of Drs and stuff now. They will have a LOT of customers once they get it set up. I have had one person that said they would stay with dial-up. Right now, I'm connected at 24K and get a throughput of about 3K/sec. Click on a bunch of links and go eat supper, take a bath or something like that. :-p It does teach patience tho. LOL Funnier still, they recently went up on dial-up. It costs more than DSL does. Oh, since I am on the net so much, they also charge me for the time on the phone too. I end up paying about $30 to $40 a month for internet costs. Funny huh? DSL is $19.95 a month. Me being disabled makes it even more fun. I'm wanting DSL to save money right now. I should save about $20 a month or so plus have a faster connection. Oh well, by Tuesday night I should have it downloaded and ready to go. I use the -f switch and get it all before I start to compile stuff. Total: 205 packages (2 upgrades, 80 new, 123 in new slots, 1 block), Size of downloads: 205,439 kB Made some progress so far. LOL Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Upgrade of xorg-server
Hi all I should upgrade xorg-server from 1.3.0.0-r2 to 1.3.0.0-r4. But I read in another mailing list that the new version of xorg-server has some (many?) bugs. Is this true also for the gentoo version? Should I wait before upgrading? Regards emilio -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade of xorg-server
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 14:32 +0100, econti wrote: Hi all I should upgrade xorg-server from 1.3.0.0-r2 to 1.3.0.0-r4. But I read in another mailing list that the new version of xorg-server has some (many?) bugs. Is this true also for the gentoo version? Should I wait before upgrading? Regards emilio I'm using xorg-server 1.3.0.0-r4 and I have no problem, so ... -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Net / dhcp (miss)behaviour
On Saturday 19 January 2008 22:09:50 Marko Kocić wrote: I wonder if my similar problem is related to what you report here: I am using dhcpcd and ifplug with my ADSL router, which acts as the dhcp server on my LAN. For some reason ifplug does not always manage to get an IP address from the router and I end up with an APIPA address. /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop/start gets it going again. This problem only occurs if I disconnect and then reconnect the ethernet cable. No such problem exists when I boot the machine with the cable already connected to the NIC. I haven't changed timeouts or anything else from the dhcpcd defaults. I have always attributed this problem to a somewhat slow dhcp server on the router. It is similar, with a difference that /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart doesn't help. I tried enlarging timeout but with no help. As a note: WinXP machines do not have any such problem. Even though they may end up with a APIPA address, they will in minute or so drop it and acquire a 10.10.10.XXX domain address from the router. dhcpcpd does not seem to have this flexibility. I noticed that in most cases after I boot to windows, when I reboot back to linux I can't connect. When I reboot back to windows, net is up. When it fails I noticed that it send DHCP requests, but doesn't get a response. I tried dhclient, dhcpd and pump, and the results are allways the same. It happens in the evenings, when internet traffic is high. Windows is not releasing the lease correctly, so the CM ignores request from the same MAC address for a new leasr, workround is to reboot the cm whem you reboot to gentoo. This works in the UK YMMV elsewhere. -- Tony Davison -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade of xorg-server
On Sonntag, 20. Januar 2008, econti wrote: Hi all I should upgrade xorg-server from 1.3.0.0-r2 to 1.3.0.0-r4. But I read in another mailing list that the new version of xorg-server has some (many?) bugs. Is this true also for the gentoo version? Should I wait before upgrading? Regards emilio 'new version' means 1.4. And yes, 1.4 has some annoying bugs - like the leds of the keyboard not working anymore. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Net / dhcp (miss)behaviour
It seems like that is the problem. Ipconfig /release or disabling net conn in win before reboot doesnt help. Rebooting modem smtimes helps but mostly not. Is it posible to somehow configure dhcp client to use lease from windows? On 1/20/08, Tony Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 19 January 2008 22:09:50 Marko Kocić wrote: I wonder if my similar problem is related to what you report here: I am using dhcpcd and ifplug with my ADSL router, which acts as the dhcp server on my LAN. For some reason ifplug does not always manage to get an IP address from the router and I end up with an APIPA address. /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop/start gets it going again. This problem only occurs if I disconnect and then reconnect the ethernet cable. No such problem exists when I boot the machine with the cable already connected to the NIC. I haven't changed timeouts or anything else from the dhcpcd defaults. I have always attributed this problem to a somewhat slow dhcp server on the router. It is similar, with a difference that /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart doesn't help. I tried enlarging timeout but with no help. As a note: WinXP machines do not have any such problem. Even though they may end up with a APIPA address, they will in minute or so drop it and acquire a 10.10.10.XXX domain address from the router. dhcpcpd does not seem to have this flexibility. I noticed that in most cases after I boot to windows, when I reboot back to linux I can't connect. When I reboot back to windows, net is up. When it fails I noticed that it send DHCP requests, but doesn't get a response. I tried dhclient, dhcpd and pump, and the results are allways the same. It happens in the evenings, when internet traffic is high. Windows is not releasing the lease correctly, so the CM ignores request from the same MAC address for a new leasr, workround is to reboot the cm whem you reboot to gentoo. This works in the UK YMMV elsewhere. -- Tony Davison -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On AD 2008 January 20 Sunday 06:48:10 AM -0600, Dale wrote: Funnier still, they recently went up on dial-up. It costs more than DSL does. Oh, since I am on the net so much, they also charge me for the time on the phone too. I end up paying about $30 to $40 a month for internet costs. Funny huh? DSL is $19.95 a month. Me being disabled makes it even more fun. I'm wanting DSL to save money right now. I should save about $20 a month or so plus have a faster connection. I pay $40/month for 14 Mib up and down and I can run it at max throughput indefinitely. I seeded all 92 gentoo torrents for a month once to test this out. :-) Here in Utah, USA we have the largest community fiber network in the country called UTOPIA. I'm only on iProvo, but on UTOPIA they can get 50 Mib for a residential link. Justin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No ebuild for kdeartwork-colorschemes ??
On Sunday 20 January 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: On 20 January 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, My portage-fu is apparently up the creek. Again. Trying to emerge kde-4.0.0, I get this: == nazgul ~ # emerge -av kde-meta These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies | * * ERROR: kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes-4.0.0 failed. [snip] I just finished emerging KDE4 and are running revdep-rebuild now. I didn't get that error. That's no consolation, I know, but I guess something must be wrong on your side. Is the kdeartwork tarball actually in distfiles? No, it doesn't even get that far. This happens at the beginning when portage is still calculating the dependencies. Portage is up to date and a sync this morning didn't change the error either. alan -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Net / dhcp (miss)behaviour
On Sunday 20 January 2008, Marko Kocić wrote: 2008-01-20 16:07 It seems like that is the problem. Ipconfig /release or disabling net conn in win before reboot doesnt help. Rebooting modem smtimes helps but mostly not. Is it posible to somehow configure dhcp client to use lease from windows? Does pump with the -R option work correctly? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade of xorg-server
On Sunday 20 January 2008, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Sonntag, 20. Januar 2008, econti wrote: Hi all I should upgrade xorg-server from 1.3.0.0-r2 to 1.3.0.0-r4. But I read in another mailing list that the new version of xorg-server has some (many?) bugs. Is this true also for the gentoo version? Should I wait before upgrading? Regards emilio 'new version' means 1.4. And yes, 1.4 has some annoying bugs - like the leds of the keyboard not working anymore. Strange, updating the 1.4 caused my keyboard leds to START working ! It's my wireless mouse that stopped working right but that appear to be a hal issue -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED No ebuild for kdeartwork-colorschemes ??
On Sunday 20 January 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: On 20 January 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, My portage-fu is apparently up the creek. Again. Trying to emerge kde-4.0.0, I get this: == nazgul ~ # emerge -av kde-meta These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies | * * ERROR: kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes-4.0.0 failed. * Call stack: Solved. I had the kde overlay in git enabled. Dependencies are now calculated properly when the overlay is disabled. alan -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade of xorg-server
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 17:41 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: 'new version' means 1.4. And yes, 1.4 has some annoying bugs - like the leds of the keyboard not working anymore. Strange, updating the 1.4 caused my keyboard leds to START working ! Same here. My LEDs indicators were wrong prior to 1.4 but are working now. There was a 'BadAlloc' problem with some apps (e.g. Java) with the release earlier last week, but it has since been fixed in portage. -a -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade of xorg-server
On Sonntag, 20. Januar 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2008, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Sonntag, 20. Januar 2008, econti wrote: Hi all I should upgrade xorg-server from 1.3.0.0-r2 to 1.3.0.0-r4. But I read in another mailing list that the new version of xorg-server has some (many?) bugs. Is this true also for the gentoo version? Should I wait before upgrading? Regards emilio 'new version' means 1.4. And yes, 1.4 has some annoying bugs - like the leds of the keyboard not working anymore. Strange, updating the 1.4 caused my keyboard leds to START working ! which 1.4? It only started to work with 1.4.0.90 for me. See here: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192221 and here: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12434 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Polymake Ebuild and general questions
Hi all, I've written an ebuild for a math-software called polymake (www.math.tu-berlin.de/polymake). You find it attached. You have to digest it yourself to use. (ebuild polymake-2.3.ebuild digest) Maybe some people could test it (on amd64 for instance...). Now some questions: 1.) The Program uses non-autotools self made configuration via make configure. Currently the Ebuild will ask questions to the user, which I want to prevent. How can i get around this? Is there some Bash trick to answer all questions with Enter ? 2.) The program needs to be rebuild after an upgrade of dev-lang/perl. How can i implement this in the ebuild ? 3.) Is there any chance that, after testing, this will land in the portage tree ? How can I do this, -email to dev-mailinglist? -bugzilla ? - ... ??? thanks Tom # Copyright 1999-2008 Gentoo Foundation # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 inherit eutils IUSE=fullconfig DESCRIPTION=research tool for polyhedral geometry SRC_URI=http://www.math.tu-berlin.de/polymake/download/polymake-2.3.tar.bz2; HOMEPAGE=http://www.math.tu-berlin.de/polymake; SLOT=0 LICENSE=GPL-3 KEYWORDS=~x86 DEPEND=dev-libs/gmp =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2 src_compile(){ # Interactive Configuration if use fullconfig; then emake configure || die configuration failed fi einfo Due to heavy template usage by the package it requires einfo up to 300MB of RAM per process. Use MAKEOPTS=-j1 if einfo you run into trouble. if ! use fullconfig; then elog Polymake will be built with -O3 which is considered safe elog Set useflag fullconfig to change fi emake || die emake failed } src_install(){ emake DESTDIR=${D} install || die install failed } pkg_postinst(){ elog You will need to set up your PATH to use Polymake elog If you use bash add elog PATH=\$PATH:/usr/local/polymake/bin; elog to your .bashrc }
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Online bookmark keeper with good merge routine
A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using sitebar as my online bookmark keeper for quite a while but seem to have trouble merging in new bookmarks from multiple machines ... what is supposed to be a merge turns into a replace operation or so it seems .. but not always. What about Google Browser Sync? http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/ I've got to report that this appears to be nearly worthless and does nothing like what it claims. After installing it on 5 browsers, every time I open a different one I still have a different set of bookmarks. I synced them all several times now... still after using one... and making changes, when I open a different one it is not setup like the last one. Even manually syncing it does not result in the same bookmarks. So I guess I'd have to say googles' claims are mostly baloney -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Via vb70001 mini-itx vrs Gentoo
Hello, I just bought a via vb7001 http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp?motherboard_id=490#spec or http://tinyurl.com/364jg3 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Polymake Ebuild and general questions
Hi, I think this will help you: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ebuild-submit.xml You also might want to have a look to dev mailing list. kh Thomas Kahle wrote: Hi all, I've written an ebuild for a math-software called polymake (www.math.tu-berlin.de/polymake). You find it attached. You have to digest it yourself to use. (ebuild polymake-2.3.ebuild digest) Maybe some people could test it (on amd64 for instance...). Now some questions: 1.) The Program uses non-autotools self made configuration via make configure. Currently the Ebuild will ask questions to the user, which I want to prevent. How can i get around this? Is there some Bash trick to answer all questions with Enter ? 2.) The program needs to be rebuild after an upgrade of dev-lang/perl. How can i implement this in the ebuild ? 3.) Is there any chance that, after testing, this will land in the portage tree ? How can I do this, -email to dev-mailinglist? -bugzilla ? - ... ??? thanks Tom -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Via vb7001 mini-itx vrs Gentoo
Hello, I just bought a via vb7001 mini-itx: http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp?motherboard_id=490#spec or http://tinyurl.com/364jg3 I did manage to get Gentoo installed on it, however while everything was compiling I read the docs for the bios to get the CRT and Composite to work. A few ebuilds didn't compile, always the same ones, looking for i486 glibc. Thinking (still not entirely sure, but it seems logical to me) that I used the x86 stage3 rather than the 686 stage3 I decided to do a clean install. So I rebooted it, changed the bios to get CRT and Composite to work (and they do), and to reinstall and it died immediately after loading the kernel from the 2007.0 minimal cd. Tried gentoo-nofb, nada, tried gentoo-nofb noapic, nada. So, I decided that I just screwed something up in the BIOS so did the jumper thing as described in the docs to reset the bios to factory defaults. It booted CRT only. Then I carefully set only the settings that I thought were necessary to get composite and CRT to work. It booted and I got this: http://www.hellburner.com/kernel_oops_VB7001/ while fscking the partition. I thought, ok, so I killed the install, wrong stage3, live and learn, reboot, reinstall. So I rebooted but now whenever I try to mkfs.ext3 it locks up and displays garbage on the screen like a busted atari. So, I tried the pin trick. Same result. mkfs starts up, formats the first 1/3 or so of the partition (60gig) and belches out atari. I've had Gentoo running on my PII and my athlon64 3000+ just fine for quite some time and have reinstalled them several times when the cruft gets out of control. I let it sit for a few hours and then decided to run memtest86. Memtest86 ran for slightly more than a second then I got atari. I don't have anything else that accepts that type of ram so I have no way to isolate it. Any ideas? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Now to spend the next couple days downloading all the KDE 4.0 stuff. Stinking dial-up. :-@ That will take a lng while. Most KDE4 packages are far larger than there KDE3 counterparts. Just as an example: kdebase-3.3.8.tar.bz2 was 24MB. Now we have three kdebase tarballs: kdebase 3.9MB kdebase-runtime 46MB kdebase-workspace29MB Good luck with dialup! Thanks for the reminder If anyone on this mailing list isn't able to grab the gentoo sources in a reasonable amount of time (ie. dialup) I'm willing to copy and burn to cdrw or dvdrw anything you desire... Just ask me via my email address. What I prefer to do, is work with users that are in the USA and are willing to swap disks or at least give me a $1.00 or $2.00 to cover material and shipping. That said, if you're really financially strapped... I'll assume all costs involved... Whatever... I'm easy. Cheers and May the Penguin Be Kind to You. P.S. Kde 4.0 is a real looker. Compiled free of defects, aside from having to fix a few USE's that I didn't have prior... -- From the Desk of: Jerome D. McBride -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade of xorg-server
On Sunday 20 January 2008, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Sonntag, 20. Januar 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2008, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: 'new version' means 1.4. And yes, 1.4 has some annoying bugs - like the leds of the keyboard not working anymore. Strange, updating the 1.4 caused my keyboard leds to START working ! which 1.4? It only started to work with 1.4.0.90 for me. Same here. I can't be certain which version exactly as I usually don't bother looking at keyboard LEDs much, but looking at my emerge history I'd say that was the version that fixed things. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Justin Findlay wrote: On AD 2008 January 20 Sunday 06:48:10 AM -0600, Dale wrote: Funnier still, they recently went up on dial-up. It costs more than DSL does. Oh, since I am on the net so much, they also charge me for the time on the phone too. I end up paying about $30 to $40 a month for internet costs. Funny huh? DSL is $19.95 a month. Me being disabled makes it even more fun. I'm wanting DSL to save money right now. I should save about $20 a month or so plus have a faster connection. I pay $40/month for 14 Mib up and down and I can run it at max throughput indefinitely. I seeded all 92 gentoo torrents for a month once to test this out. :-) Here in Utah, USA we have the largest community fiber network in the country called UTOPIA. I'm only on iProvo, but on UTOPIA they can get 50 Mib for a residential link. Justin I wish I lived in Utopia. LOL :-p Well, I made some progress while I was napping. I'm here now: Emerging (31 of 205) kde-base/libkdeedu-4.0.0 to / Downloading 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2' --10:48:22-- ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2' Resolving ftp.ussg.iu.edu... 156.56.247.193 Connecting to ftp.ussg.iu.edu|156.56.247.193|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! == SYST ... done.== PWD ... done. == TYPE I ... done. == CWD /pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles ... done. == PASV ... done.== RETR kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2 ... done. Length: 41,886,885 (40M) (unauthoritative) 23% [== ] 9,760,968 2.61K/s ETA 4:48:59 Exiting on signal 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I had to stop it to send in a folding unit thingy. Can't do more than one thing at a time on this connection. :-( Even Kopete pitches a fit sometimes. It's 12:40 now, so by dark I should have that ONE completed. ;-) Dang, 14Mbs both ways. Dale drools and slobbers everywhere Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Sunday 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: I wish I lived in Utopia. LOL :-p Well, I made some progress while I was napping. I'm here now: Emerging (31 of 205) kde-base/libkdeedu-4.0.0 to / Downloading 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz 2' --10:48:22-- ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2' Resolving ftp.ussg.iu.edu... 156.56.247.193 Connecting to ftp.ussg.iu.edu|156.56.247.193|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! == SYST ... done.== PWD ... done. == TYPE I ... done. == CWD /pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles ... done. == PASV ... done.== RETR kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2 ... done. Length: 41,886,885 (40M) (unauthoritative) 23% [== ] 9,760,968 2.61K/s ETA 4:48:59 Exiting on signal 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I had to stop it to send in a folding unit thingy. Can't do more than one thing at a time on this connection. :-( Even Kopete pitches a fit sometimes. It's 12:40 now, so by dark I should have that ONE completed. ;-) Dang, 14Mbs both ways. Dale drools and slobbers everywhere I feel your pain. Until recently I was on a 56k dial-up that thought 33k was fast If anyone on this list is in Johannesburg and would like a copy of the kde4 sources, drop me a mail. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gentoo installer translate
I plan to make only languange tranlations to gentoo install iso, what I must do to be used this work later? hi! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gdbm fatal: write error
Hello, I am using Python's shelve module to create a large database. As soon as the data base file crosses the 2.1 GB mark, I get the error: gdbm fatal: write error Any insight appreciated. Thanks, -- Valmor Portage 2.1.3.19 (default-linux/x86/2007.0, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.22.9 i686) = System uname: 2.6.22.9 i686 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.60GHz Timestamp of tree: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 04:30:01 + app-shells/bash: 3.2_p17 dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.33-r1 dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r6 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6 sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.9-r2 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.18.1-r2 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.61-r1 sys-devel/automake: 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10 sys-devel/binutils: 2.18-r1 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.16 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.24 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.22-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-O3 -march=pentium4 -pipe -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On 20 January 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2008, Dale wrote: I wish I lived in Utopia. LOL :-p Well, I made some progress while I was napping. I'm here now: Emerging (31 of 205) kde-base/libkdeedu-4.0.0 to / Downloading 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz 2' --10:48:22-- ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2' Resolving ftp.ussg.iu.edu... 156.56.247.193 Connecting to ftp.ussg.iu.edu|156.56.247.193|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! == SYST ... done.== PWD ... done. == TYPE I ... done. == CWD /pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles ... done. == PASV ... done.== RETR kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2 ... done. Length: 41,886,885 (40M) (unauthoritative) 23% [== ] 9,760,968 2.61K/s ETA 4:48:59 Exiting on signal 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I had to stop it to send in a folding unit thingy. Can't do more than one thing at a time on this connection. :-( Even Kopete pitches a fit sometimes. It's 12:40 now, so by dark I should have that ONE completed. ;-) Dang, 14Mbs both ways. Dale drools and slobbers everywhere I feel your pain. Until recently I was on a 56k dial-up that thought 33k was fast If anyone on this list is in Johannesburg and would like a copy of the kde4 sources, drop me a mail. Same here in Windhoek. Just bring a memory stick large enough and a Windhoek lager. ;-) Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Via vb70001 mini-itx vrs Gentoo
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:33:04 -0600 (CST), list-catcher wrote: I just bought a via vb7001 Good luck with getting the CN700 graphics to work stably :( -- Neil Bothwick Things which must be shipped together as a set, aren't. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On 20 January 2008, Justin Findlay wrote: I pay $40/month for 14 Mib up and down and I can run it at max throughput indefinitely. I seeded all 92 gentoo torrents for a month once to test this out. :-) Here in Utah, USA we have the largest community fiber network in the country called UTOPIA. I'm only on iProvo, but on UTOPIA they can get 50 Mib for a residential link. You lucky bastard over there in Utopia! ;-) My ADSL is 256Kb downstream and 64Kb upstream. I pay about USD50 per month with a data cap of 1GB per month. Still, this is far better and cheaper than the dialup connection I have had before. The so-called digital divide isn't all that much about technology, computers or other gadgets.; It's about knowledge and, mainly, bandwidth and its costs. I still have customers that run a 100 workstations business on a 128Kb line, paying more than USD1000 per month for it. Alright, we are straying far from the topic here. Good luck to Dale! Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Via vb70001 mini-itx vrs Gentoo
IF the BIOS gives you the option of changing the RAM timings, I would make them all as large as they can go (slowest timings for RAM.) I'm assuming that your RAM timing is done by default now, and while that is right most of the time, you can't go wrong with setting them up manually. If memtest passes with the slowest timings, then I would tighten them until memtest makes it barf up ATARI and then back off until you reach a stable area. Another way to do this is to look on the side of your RAM and see if it lists the timings. If it does, great, set the timings to those manually in the BIOS, if it doesn't, refer to previous guess and check method. -Hal Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:33:04 -0600 (CST), list-catcher wrote: I just bought a via vb7001 Good luck with getting the CN700 graphics to work stably :( -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED No ebuild for kdeartwork-colorschemes ??
On 20 January 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: On 20 January 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, My portage-fu is apparently up the creek. Again. Trying to emerge kde-4.0.0, I get this: == nazgul ~ # emerge -av kde-meta These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies | * * ERROR: kde-base/kdeartwork-colorschemes-4.0.0 failed. * Call stack: Solved. I had the kde overlay in git enabled. Dependencies are now calculated properly when the overlay is disabled. Uh-huh! Yes, that explains it. Good luck there in building 4.0.0. If I could make konsole of 4.0.0 not to crash on startup and kmail from 3.5.8 to start at all in 4.0.0, I would immediately make 4.0.0 my default desktop. Without these two apps, I can not. :-( Uwe -- If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman listens to him, is he still lying? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED No ebuild for kdeartwork-colorschemes ??
On Sunday 20 January 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: Solved. I had the kde overlay in git enabled. Dependencies are now calculated properly when the overlay is disabled. Uh-huh! Yes, that explains it. Good luck there in building 4.0.0. Currently on package 158 of 190, it's now 22:31 and the emerge started at 18:22. I seem to remember building 3.5.x from scratch progressed a whole lot slower. Maybe this need build system for kde4 really is a whole lot faster and easier. My girlfriend says the build output looks pretty :-O If I could make konsole of 4.0.0 not to crash on startup and kmail from 3.5.8 to start at all in 4.0.0, I would immediately make 4.0.0 my default desktop. Without these two apps, I can not. :-( Hmmm, konsole and kmail not running doesn't fill me with joy. This are probably the apps I use the most followed by konqueror, kopete and amarok :-( -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED No ebuild for kdeartwork-colorschemes ??
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:40:40 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: If I could make konsole of 4.0.0 not to crash on startup and kmail from 3.5.8 to start at all in 4.0.0, I would immediately make 4.0.0 my default desktop. Without these two apps, I can not. :-( Yakuake works, but claws-mail doesn't, so I'm back on 3.5 for now. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 002: No Error - Yet signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram
Well, after all kinds of tests and trying different types of memory configurations, I can only conclude that my kernel boots normally with 1 GB of RAM installed but hangs when I have 2 GB of RAM installed. I can't find a logical reason for this to happen. Any pointers or suggestions are welcome, Regards On Jan 19, 2008 11:31 PM, José Pedro Saraiva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following your replies I've done the following, in an attempt to isolate the problem: (memory #1 - old memory, memory #2 - new memory) - Runned memtest on both memories with 0 errors - Booted with both memories... kernel hang - Booted with memory #1 on slot #1 successfully - Booted with memory #1 on slot #2 successfully - Booted with memory #2 on slot #1 successfully - Booted with memory #2 on slot #2 successfully - Booted with both memories on windows successfully For some reason, my kernel hangs if I have 2 GB of RAM installed. And I do have High memory support (4GB), although that doesn't seem relevant. Ideas? :X Thank you all for the quick replies. Cheers On Jan 19, 2008 2:29 PM, Hal Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An alternative to running memtest (which is quite easy to do, I might add) would be to remove the original RAM and see if the computer boots with the new RAM only. Alternatively, you could just run memtest, as it is included with many BIOSs now. It doesn't take long to identify problems, if there are any. I find that test #5 is the best test for finding problems, however it tends to keep you in the dark until it's finished the test. -Hal Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:58:59 +, José Pedro Saraiva wrote: I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the RAM, How? Have you run memtest? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] gdbm fatal: write error
-Original Message- From: de Almeida, Valmor F. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 2:19 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org ...snip... the data base file crosses the 2.1 GB mark, I get the error: It looks like GDBM files have a 2GB limit. Does anyone know whether this can be changed? Thanks, -- Valmor -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I guess your kernel is configured to support only 1GB of RAM. In the kernel configuration look for Processor Type and Features There you find the Option. High Memory Support. Probably it is set to off. Set it to 4GB then recompile the kernel. That should do it. have fun Tom José Pedro Saraiva wrote: Well, after all kinds of tests and trying different types of memory configurations, I can only conclude that my kernel boots normally with 1 GB of RAM installed but hangs when I have 2 GB of RAM installed. I can't find a logical reason for this to happen. Any pointers or suggestions are welcome, Regards On Jan 19, 2008 11:31 PM, José Pedro Saraiva [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following your replies I've done the following, in an attempt to isolate the problem: (memory #1 - old memory, memory #2 - new memory) - Runned memtest on both memories with 0 errors - Booted with both memories... kernel hang - Booted with memory #1 on slot #1 successfully - Booted with memory #1 on slot #2 successfully - Booted with memory #2 on slot #1 successfully - Booted with memory #2 on slot #2 successfully - Booted with both memories on windows successfully For some reason, my kernel hangs if I have 2 GB of RAM installed. And I do have High memory support (4GB), although that doesn't seem relevant. Ideas? :X Thank you all for the quick replies. Cheers On Jan 19, 2008 2:29 PM, Hal Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An alternative to running memtest (which is quite easy to do, I might add) would be to remove the original RAM and see if the computer boots with the new RAM only. Alternatively, you could just run memtest, as it is included with many BIOSs now. It doesn't take long to identify problems, if there are any. I find that test #5 is the best test for finding problems, however it tends to keep you in the dark until it's finished the test. -Hal Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:58:59 +, José Pedro Saraiva wrote: I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the RAM, How? Have you run memtest? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHk86lrpEWPKIUt7MRAtm6AJ9EbOJfcrxM7UoceMz3B2gdpKLn1gCfdMMh +04EiTXdzcE5JOp6ON5IQOQ= =SdgG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Online bookmark keeper with good merge routine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I guess I'd have to say googles' claims are mostly baloney I've been using Foxmarks for a while now and have no complaints. It works fine with Flock, too. :) Be lucky, Neil -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram
-Original Message- From: José Pedro Saraiva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 4:48 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org ...snip... - Booted with both memories on windows successfully ...snip... This is surprising. Have you tried to boot from a liveCD with both memory modules inserted? -- Valmor -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Via vb70001 mini-itx vrs Gentoo
Hal Martin wrote: IF the BIOS gives you the option of changing the RAM timings, It's got nothing to do with RAM timings and everything to do with the fact that VIA couldn't care less about Linux users. One thing I have learned in th last few months is don't touch VIA with a bargepole. My VIA-based laptop went in the bin and I am now enjoying the luxury of an Intel-based laptop with nVidia graphics. :) Be lucky, Neil -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 12:37 -0600, Dale wrote: Emerging (31 of 205) kde-base/libkdeedu-4.0.0 to / Downloading 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2' --10:48:22-- ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2' Resolving ftp.ussg.iu.edu... 156.56.247.193 Connecting to ftp.ussg.iu.edu|156.56.247.193|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! == SYST ... done.== PWD ... done. == TYPE I ... done. == CWD /pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles ... done. == PASV ... done.== RETR kdeedu-4.0.0.tar.bz2 ... done. Length: 41,886,885 (40M) (unauthoritative) 23% [== ] 9,760,968 2.61K/s ETA 4:48:59 Exiting on signal 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I had to stop it to send in a folding unit thingy. Can't do more than one thing at a time on this connection. :-( Even Kopete pitches a fit sometimes. It's 12:40 now, so by dark I should have that ONE completed. ;-) Dang, 14Mbs both ways. Dale drools and slobbers everywhere Dale didn't you say aDSL was on the way? May it speed to your line! -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au The meek shall inherit the Earth. (But they're gonna have to fight for it.) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 06:48 -0600, Dale wrote: Heck, if the price is right, I'd order them. I try to order a new Gentoo install CD when it comes out, been a while I know, but it takes about a week to download a CD. Last one I got was when I was with my ex and we had cable then. Funny, in all the recent discussion on creating an install CD, I never thought of this reason for them - that some people can still order them snail-mail faster than downloading it. Thanks for bringing me back inline! Of course, I was told we would be getting DSL real soon. They have put in the new box, hooked up the fiber optic cables and stuff so far. They got to put in the cards that do the DSL thing next. I'm not sure when that will happen but shouldn't be to long. I been promised that I would be #1 on the list even if I was just a tester at first. Not real sure how to set up Linux to login yet but I'm sure I'll get something figured out. :-) the best way, IMHO is to get a router/firewall/switch that does it all for you. You will need an aDSL modem anyway, and nowadays cheap routers don't cost much (if any) more. Funny thing is, we were supposed to have DSL before hurricane Katrina hit but they had to go run new stuff down on the coast, which I totally understand too. Where we live, there are a lot of Drs and stuff now. They will have a LOT of customers once they get it set up. I have had one person that said they would stay with dial-up. Right now, I'm connected at 24K and get a throughput of about 3K/sec. Click on a bunch of links and go eat supper, take a bath or something like that. :-p It does teach patience tho. LOL I remember the days... If my kids ever complain about internet speeds (they're only 2.5, and -0.6 atm) I'll whip 'em down to dial up and say In my day... Funnier still, they recently went up on dial-up. It costs more than DSL does. Oh, since I am on the net so much, they also charge me for the time on the phone too. You mean you don't have a fixed cost dial-up number? I end up paying about $30 to $40 a month for internet costs. Funny huh? DSL is $19.95 a month. Me being disabled makes it even more fun. I'm wanting DSL to save money right now. I should save about $20 a month or so plus have a faster connection. plus you can VOIP which saves more $ Oh well, by Tuesday night I should have it downloaded and ready to go. I use the -f switch and get it all before I start to compile stuff. Why don't you have two terminals going - one doing -f, and the other compiling it for real. They will wait nicely for each other. At least then you'll get the compile going while you wait for the next download. Total: 205 packages (2 upgrades, 80 new, 123 in new slots, 1 block), Size of downloads: 205,439 kB Made some progress so far. LOL We just upgraded to 8Mbit at work... Makes an emerge --sync nice :) Nicer than 1.5Mbit anyway. I know there are faster speeds out there, but for now 8Mbit is enough for anyone! Dale :-) :-) cya, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au I read the newspaper avidly. It is my one form of continuous fiction. -- Aneurin Bevan -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 19:50 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: Read Neil's reply. He hit the nail on the finger. That's worthy of sending to Scott Adams! I hope he hit the nail on the (it's) head, not on his finger :) -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au ER...HO. HO. HO. -- Death makes a career move (Terry Pratchett, Hogfather) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] stuff accumulating in /tmp
080120 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2008, Philip Webb wrote: 080119 Kevin wrote: To automatically wipe /tmp upon reboot, change WIPE_TMP to yes in /etc/conf.d/bootmisc Thanks: I will consider the implications. There aren't any implications. By *definition*, the contents of /tmp should not be relied on to survive a reboot or even subsequent invocations of the same program. Any app that does rely on the contents of /tmp still being there is thus fundamentally broken in it's behaviour and should be avoided or fixed. Strictly, you are correct -- that's the POSIX rule, which I know about -- , but there is a problem when using Mutt (another user mentioned this). By default, Mutt creates its temporary files in /tmp , which applies to the working file for new msgs even when editing with Vim (which defaults to keeping its .swp running-back-up files in '.'). Leaving the defaults in place, if power fails while composing a msg, the surviving .swp files wb preserved in /tmp , but only if you don't set WIPE_TMP=yes . If you set that to yes, when you reboot after the power failure, the .swp back-up wb lost. You need to change .muttrc to include 'set tmpdir=/var/tmp', which should always survive a reboot (acc to POSIX). -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Via vb70001 mini-itx vrs Gentoo
Hmm, I find that surprising, especially since the new $200 PC at Sprawl-Mart is based on their C7 processor. Although I have heard many issues with trying to get certain, additional, items to work with the gPC. The main one being no modem... I once owned a motherboard based on a VIA chipset, worst thing ever... So I got rid of that and went for a board with an NVidia chipset :) -Hal Neil Walker wrote: Hal Martin wrote: IF the BIOS gives you the option of changing the RAM timings, It's got nothing to do with RAM timings and everything to do with the fact that VIA couldn't care less about Linux users. One thing I have learned in th last few months is don't touch VIA with a bargepole. My VIA-based laptop went in the bin and I am now enjoying the luxury of an Intel-based laptop with nVidia graphics. :) Be lucky, Neil -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Iain Buchanan wrote: didn't you say aDSL was on the way? May it speed to your line! Yep, it is on the way. I plan to surf for a week, NON STOP!! Little progress today. Emerging (33 of 205) kde-base/libkonq-4.0.0 to / Downloading 'ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2' --22:27:31-- ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles/kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2' Resolving ftp.ussg.iu.edu... 156.56.247.193 Connecting to ftp.ussg.iu.edu|156.56.247.193|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! == SYST ... done.== PWD ... done. == TYPE I ... done. == CWD /pub/linux/gentoo/distfiles ... done. == PASV ... done.== RETR kdebase-4.0.0.tar.bz2 ... done. Length: 4,032,455 (3.8M) (unauthoritative) 63% [== ] 2,549,928 2.18K/sETA 12:55 Exiting on signal 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # Could be worse I guess. :/ Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
Iain Buchanan wrote: On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 06:48 -0600, Dale wrote: Heck, if the price is right, I'd order them. I try to order a new Gentoo install CD when it comes out, been a while I know, but it takes about a week to download a CD. Last one I got was when I was with my ex and we had cable then. Funny, in all the recent discussion on creating an install CD, I never thought of this reason for them - that some people can still order them snail-mail faster than downloading it. Thanks for bringing me back inline! Actually, I mentioned that once in that discussion. Could you imagine a reinstall and having to download ALL the distfiles? I keep a back up of my distfiles, two of them, snapshot and all. I figure about 2 weeks of downloading and installing, mostly downloading. Of course, I was told we would be getting DSL real soon. They have put in the new box, hooked up the fiber optic cables and stuff so far. They got to put in the cards that do the DSL thing next. I'm not sure when that will happen but shouldn't be to long. I been promised that I would be #1 on the list even if I was just a tester at first. Not real sure how to set up Linux to login yet but I'm sure I'll get something figured out. :-) the best way, IMHO is to get a router/firewall/switch that does it all for you. You will need an aDSL modem anyway, and nowadays cheap routers don't cost much (if any) more. I plan to get a Linksys router. That should work right? That's what we had on my ex's cable connection too. Funny thing is, we were supposed to have DSL before hurricane Katrina hit but they had to go run new stuff down on the coast, which I totally understand too. Where we live, there are a lot of Drs and stuff now. They will have a LOT of customers once they get it set up. I have had one person that said they would stay with dial-up. Right now, I'm connected at 24K and get a throughput of about 3K/sec. Click on a bunch of links and go eat supper, take a bath or something like that. :-p It does teach patience tho. LOL I remember the days... If my kids ever complain about internet speeds (they're only 2.5, and -0.6 atm) I'll whip 'em down to dial up and say In my day... Put on a 9800. Man, they will learn quick then for sure. -0.6? The biscuits still in the oven? Funnier still, they recently went up on dial-up. It costs more than DSL does. Oh, since I am on the net so much, they also charge me for the time on the phone too. You mean you don't have a fixed cost dial-up number? Well, because we have what is called measured circle, which means we can call other towns and they are considered local but with limits on the number of minutes each month. I go aver that limit and they charge a little more for that. It's the phone company. They get you any way they can. I understand why Vonage is doing so well. I end up paying about $30 to $40 a month for internet costs. Funny huh? DSL is $19.95 a month. Me being disabled makes it even more fun. I'm wanting DSL to save money right now. I should save about $20 a month or so plus have a faster connection. plus you can VOIP which saves more $ Plan to check on that too. Oh well, by Tuesday night I should have it downloaded and ready to go. I use the -f switch and get it all before I start to compile stuff. Why don't you have two terminals going - one doing -f, and the other compiling it for real. They will wait nicely for each other. At least then you'll get the compile going while you wait for the next download. I could just leave off the -f and it would do the same but I like to watch the progress. O_O Total: 205 packages (2 upgrades, 80 new, 123 in new slots, 1 block), Size of downloads: 205,439 kB Made some progress so far. LOL We just upgraded to 8Mbit at work... Makes an emerge --sync nice :) Nicer than 1.5Mbit anyway. I know there are faster speeds out there, but for now 8Mbit is enough for anyone! Dale :-) :-) cya, I plan to start out on the basic plan then may upgrade to a faster one as I can. Maybe by then Gentoo will have some other issues sorted out and I can help in other ways. This dial-up sort of limits a person a lot. Well, 12 hour limit. Better log off and reconnect then start again. LOL Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 23:03 -0600, Dale wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote: On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 06:48 -0600, Dale wrote: Heck, if the price is right, I'd order them. I try to order a new Gentoo install CD when it comes out, been a while I know, but it takes about a week to download a CD. Last one I got was when I was with my ex and we had cable then. Funny, in all the recent discussion on creating an install CD, I never thought of this reason for them - that some people can still order them snail-mail faster than downloading it. Thanks for bringing me back inline! Actually, I mentioned that once in that discussion. oh. well, in my defence there was a hellofalotof discussion and I tried to stay interested but I did miss a few comments :) Could you imagine a reinstall and having to download ALL the distfiles? ... Yeah, did that once and didn't like it even on 512kbit! ... Not real sure how to set up Linux to login yet but I'm sure I'll get something figured out. :-) the best way, IMHO is to get a router/firewall/switch that does it all for you. You will need an aDSL modem anyway, and nowadays cheap routers don't cost much (if any) more. I plan to get a Linksys router. That should work right? That's what we had on my ex's cable connection too. so long as it's not a cable modem ;) The Billion 7404 works great here, but then I think that's country-specific so you might not have the exact model. ... Right now, I'm connected at 24K and get a throughput of about 3K/sec. Click on a bunch of links and go eat supper, take a bath or something like that. :-p It does teach patience tho. LOL I remember the days... If my kids ever complain about internet speeds (they're only 2.5, and -0.6 atm) I'll whip 'em down to dial up and say In my day... Put on a 9800. Man, they will learn quick then for sure. Hey Iain, how come your kids are so well behaved? Me: We have a system. An untidy room looses you 100kbit/s; fighting looses you 200kbit/s; not eating dinner looses you 50kbit/s... -0.6? The biscuits still in the oven? Yep, almost half way to going through it all again! Funnier still, they recently went up on dial-up. It costs more than DSL does. Oh, since I am on the net so much, they also charge me for the time on the phone too. You mean you don't have a fixed cost dial-up number? Well, because we have what is called measured circle, which means we can call other towns and they are considered local but with limits on the number of minutes each month. I go aver that limit and they charge a little more for that. It's the phone company. They get you any way they can. I understand why Vonage is doing so well. They're as bad as banks - the major telco here has tried a number of times to get timed local calls through, but luckily they're still partly gov't owned, so there's too much outcry. Essentially any call in the same city is local. There are even national dial-up numbers which are special number that ISP's can get. They're charged at local call rates no matter where you are in Australia. I remember staying connected for about 4 days once :) I end up paying about $30 to $40 a month for internet costs. Funny huh? DSL is $19.95 a month. Me being disabled makes it even more fun. I'm wanting DSL to save money right now. I should save about $20 a month or so plus have a faster connection. plus you can VOIP which saves more $ Plan to check on that too. just make sure you go with a quality provider! There are cheap and nasty providers (here anyway) where call quality is not worth it, and there are quality providers that guarantee a certain level of quality and service. But so long as you don't lock yourself into a plan, you can chop change as you like. Oh well, by Tuesday night I should have it downloaded and ready to go. I use the -f switch and get it all before I start to compile stuff. Why don't you have two terminals going - one doing -f, and the other compiling it for real. They will wait nicely for each other. At least then you'll get the compile going while you wait for the next download. I could just leave off the -f and it would do the same but I like to watch the progress. O_O not quite the same :) emerge -u world would download one package, and compile it, download the next, compile it. So the total time is the sum of the individual downloads and compiles. emerge -f world and emerge -u world in two separate windows would start downloading, but then as soon as the first package is downloaded, it starts compiling while the next is being downloaded. So by the time you get to downloading the last package, everything but that last package has already been compiled and installed (for a very slow connection. If you had a fast connection, you often finish downloading well before you've compiled and