Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:53:24 +0100, Stroller wrote: As it bloody well should be. An analogue cable is not fixing the problem. It has for years been possible to play music from a CD-ROM connected by only the EIDE cable. Although some CD player software needs to be explicitly told to use this method. But this isn't the problem anyway,because the OP also stated that he cannot rip audio CDs, so it is a problem with reading the CDDA data from the drive, not playing it. -- Neil Bothwick Some people are born mediocre, some people achieve mediocrity, and some people have mediocrity thrust upon them. - Joseph Heller, Catch-22 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] gnucash pulls in firefox (when I already have firefox-bin)
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: It is to avoid the need for Firefox 2 installed from source, which is a problem if you use Firefox 3 or firefox-bin. the xulrunner flag make GnuCash, and other apps, build against xunrunner instead of the firefox 2 headers. This makes sense. What doesn't make sense is why does an accounting package need to build against a rendering engine? I can't see the connection -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My last words on cryptology and cryptography.
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Chris Walters wrote: Sebastian Wiesner wrote: | I don't and I did not say so, things like the Debian disaster bring | you back to reality from dreams ... This is the favoured method of cracking encryption - misuse by the user. The canonical example is of course Enigma and the stupid mistake that let the Allies crack it. This is entirely analogous to the Debian fiasco. With desktop computing power and speed growing at the rate that it currently is, does it stretch the imagination so much that supercomputer power and speed is also growing at a similar rate. Even if an AES256 key cannot be broken in a million years by one supercomputer (*I* would like to see a citation for that), there will soon be a time when it will be able to be cracked in a much shorter time - with one supercomputer. No-one has ever seriously said that it will take X time to crack a key. The possibility exists that the first key randomly selected in a brute force attack will match which gives you a time to crack in the millisecond range. The calculation is quite simple - measure how quickly a specific computer can match keys. Divide this into the size of the keyspace. The average time to brute force a key is half that value. AFAIK this still averages out at enormous numbers of years, even at insane calculation rates like what RoadRunner can achieve. All this presupposes that the algorithm in question has no known cryptographic weaknesses so brute force is the only feasible method of attack currently. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild
Lately emerge-2.2 has been issuing output like this: !!! existing preserved libs: package: dev-libs/eet- * - /usr/lib/libeet.so.0 * - /usr/lib/libeet.so.0.9.99900 Use emerge @preserved-rebuild to rebuild packages using these libraries There's no reference to this @preserved-rebuild argument in the emerge man page. Same with a new FEATURES=preserve-libs, which is mentioned in NEWS. Is this documented anywhere? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gnucash pulls in firefox (when I already have firefox-bin)
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:40:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: This makes sense. What doesn't make sense is why does an accounting package need to build against a rendering engine? I can't see the connection The doc USE flag makes gnucash depend on gnucash-docs, which in turn depends on yelp. That's what requires the HTML engine. -- Neil Bothwick I just took an IQ test. The results were negative. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] gnucash pulls in firefox (when I already have firefox-bin)
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:40:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: This makes sense. What doesn't make sense is why does an accounting package need to build against a rendering engine? I can't see the connection The doc USE flag makes gnucash depend on gnucash-docs, which in turn depends on yelp. That's what requires the HTML engine. OK, thanks. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 23. Juni 2008 schrieb Joerg Schilling: Be careful not to use forks but only official code. All known forks are full of bugs. In special: they come with extremely buggy mkisofs variants and they all have incomplete and broken DVD support (because the working original DVD support code has been completely relaced in the forks). FUD or Fact? This way of asking does not need any comment: You are obviously trying to spread FUD :-( What Do you like to achive with this mail? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Am Donnerstag, 26. Juni 2008 schrieb ext Joerg Schilling: Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 23. Juni 2008 schrieb Joerg Schilling: Be careful not to use forks but only official code. All known forks are full of bugs. In special: they come with extremely buggy mkisofs variants and they all have incomplete and broken DVD support (because the working original DVD support code has been completely relaced in the forks). FUD or Fact? This way of asking does not need any comment: You are obviously trying to spread FUD :-( Huh? By asking wether what you state above is true or false I spread FUD? What Do you like to achive with this mail? That you show evidence for your statements (All known forks are full of bugs, ...they come with extremely buggy mkisofs..., etc.). Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
John covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This looks like the two-wire cable between the CD ROM and your soundcard is missing or loose. I'd check this first. If this is a laptop, it might well be that the connection between the two subsystems was left out intentionally by the manufacturer to save a couple of cents. Some do that. :-( I am having the same problem -- but additionally my CDROM has no place to even put such a cable -- at least according to the person who actually put the machine together. I have not opened up the box to check, but if so, what can I do to play cds? It is most inlikely that thius is related to this cable I recommend you to get a recent cdrtools (e.g. from ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/) and install cdda2wav suid root. Then call: cdda2wav -e -N -B If everything is OK, then you will be able to listen to the music. Otherwise you see human readble error messages that point you to the problem. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some (and only some) multimedia audio broke in the last few of updates on two of my systems with cmi chipsets - I had to select IEC958 Monitor before I got sound back. Might be the same thing. and no, I am not using digital output. If this doesnt help you, might help someone else as it was a pita to find the cause as I am not using the digital outputs from the card. The OP claimed that he cannot even extract audio from his drive... This does not make it very probable that the problem is in the audio driver. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
on Thursday 06/26/2008 Joerg Schilling([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote John covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This looks like the two-wire cable between the CD ROM and your soundcard is missing or loose. I'd check this first. If this is a laptop, it might well be that the connection between the two subsystems was left out intentionally by the manufacturer to save a couple of cents. Some do that. :-( I am having the same problem -- but additionally my CDROM has no place to even put such a cable -- at least according to the person who actually put the machine together. I have not opened up the box to check, but if so, what can I do to play cds? It is most inlikely that thius is related to this cable I recommend you to get a recent cdrtools (e.g. from ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/) and install cdda2wav suid root. Then call: cdda2wav -e -N -B If everything is OK, then you will be able to listen to the music. Otherwise you see human readble error messages that point you to the problem. Jörg OK, we are now getting somewhere, I did hear sound out of that, now that is interesting, but how does this work -- does it not copy the file or is it playing from the drive? I have cdcd and it thinks its playing, bu I hear nothing. Also, I can't get mplayer to do anyting, it thinks the url is wrong or something, so this is more complicated. Thanks much. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
John covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recommend you to get a recent cdrtools (e.g. from ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/) and install cdda2wav suid root. Then call: cdda2wav -e -N -B If everything is OK, then you will be able to listen to the music. Otherwise you see human readble error messages that point you to the problem. Jörg OK, we are now getting somewhere, I did hear sound out of that, now that is interesting, but how does this work -- does it not copy the file or is it playing from the drive? I have cdcd and it thinks its playing, bu I hear nothing. Also, I can't get mplayer to do anyting, it thinks the url is wrong or something, so this is more complicated. cdda2wav does things as they should be done ;-) There are many possible reasons for your problems. A big problem is that on Linux _some_ SCSI commands may be send to drives without haveing root privileges and developers created GUI tools that did things that will not work on other platforms and that will not even work for all drives on Linux. If the applications that does not work does not tell you why, you are lost. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag, 26. Juni 2008 schrieb ext Joerg Schilling: Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 23. Juni 2008 schrieb Joerg Schilling: Be careful not to use forks but only official code. All known forks are full of bugs. In special: they come with extremely buggy mkisofs variants and they all have incomplete and broken DVD support (because the working original DVD support code has been completely relaced in the forks). FUD or Fact? This way of asking does not need any comment: You are obviously trying to spread FUD :-( Huh? By asking wether what you state above is true or false I spread FUD? Your question was just an attempt to pass the underlying missinformation that I am not telling the truth. You could save us a lot time if you did your homework and e.g. checked the bug databases from the Linux distributors that currently by default deliver cdrkit instead of cdrtools. If you did this, you would know the exact list of bugs that calse problems Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild
On 11:12 Thu 26 Jun , Alan McKinnon wrote: Lately emerge-2.2 has been issuing output like this: !!! existing preserved libs: package: dev-libs/eet- * - /usr/lib/libeet.so.0 * - /usr/lib/libeet.so.0.9.99900 Use emerge @preserved-rebuild to rebuild packages using these libraries There's no reference to this @preserved-rebuild argument in the emerge man page. Same with a new FEATURES=preserve-libs, which is mentioned in NEWS. Is this documented anywhere? In NEWS and RELEASE-NOTES of portage-2.2 Zhang Le -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
on Thursday 06/26/2008 Joerg Schilling([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote John covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recommend you to get a recent cdrtools (e.g. from ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/) and install cdda2wav suid root. Then call: cdda2wav -e -N -B If everything is OK, then you will be able to listen to the music. Otherwise you see human readble error messages that point you to the problem. Jörg OK, we are now getting somewhere, I did hear sound out of that, now that is interesting, but how does this work -- does it not copy the file or is it playing from the drive? I have cdcd and it thinks its playing, bu I hear nothing. Also, I can't get mplayer to do anyting, it thinks the url is wrong or something, so this is more complicated. cdda2wav does things as they should be done ;-) There are many possible reasons for your problems. A big problem is that on Linux _some_ SCSI commands may be send to drives without haveing root privileges and developers created GUI tools that did things that will not work on other platforms and that will not even work for all drives on Linux. If the applications that does not work does not tell you why, you are lost. Well, cdcd is what I would like to use, it thinks it is playing, and did work when I had a driv with that cable, but I hear no sound now. I think it is reading the data off of the cd and I guess its not doing the correct thing with it. Can you recomend a console player with some features like rewind, fast forward, pause and title lookup, etc -- I don't mind changing if I need to change. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
John covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, cdcd is what I would like to use, it thinks it is playing, and did work when I had a driv with that cable, but I hear no sound now. I think it is reading the data off of the cd and I guess its not doing the correct thing with it. Can you recomend a console player with some features like rewind, fast forward, pause and title lookup, etc -- I don't mind changing if I need to change. Sun lawyewrs found a legal problem with libcdio. I am just working on a legal replacement for libcdio together with some GOME developers from Sun. This will be based on a wrapper around cdda2wav. If your problem is reading from CD, this will fix the problems but it will take ~ 1-2 weeks to finish. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Zhang Le wrote: On 11:12 Thu 26 Jun , Alan McKinnon wrote: Lately emerge-2.2 has been issuing output like this: !!! existing preserved libs: package: dev-libs/eet- * - /usr/lib/libeet.so.0 * - /usr/lib/libeet.so.0.9.99900 Use emerge @preserved-rebuild to rebuild packages using these libraries There's no reference to this @preserved-rebuild argument in the emerge man page. Same with a new FEATURES=preserve-libs, which is mentioned in NEWS. Is this documented anywhere? In NEWS and RELEASE-NOTES of portage-2.2 OK, so it's a new set feature. Could be useful. That info is still a bit skimpy though. Is there anything more somewhere? And what about FEATURES=preserve-libs, is that documented somewhere? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
John covici wrote: Can you recomend a console player with some features like rewind, fast forward, pause and title lookup, etc -- I don't mind changing if I need to change. Not a console player, but totem plays cds and movies with minimum of fuss, and if you have the complete Gnome install then it is just there. Cheers Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
I wrote: Not a console player, but totem plays cds and movies with minimum of fuss, and if you have the complete Gnome install then it is just there. Actually, I am completely mistaken...it's sound-juicer that is playing the cd I'm listening to right now (I usually listen to streaming mp3s that *are* played by totem)... sorry for the confusion! best wishes Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Am Donnerstag, 26. Juni 2008 schrieb ext Joerg Schilling: Your question was just an attempt to pass the underlying missinformation that I am not telling the truth. Interesting conclusion. You could save us a lot time if you did your homework and e.g. checked the bug databases from the Linux distributors that currently by default deliver cdrkit instead of cdrtools. Why is it _my_ homework to proove _your_ statements? If you did this, you would know the exact list of bugs that calse problems But you state that you know that list already, why don't you tell us? Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote: Not a console player, but totem plays cds and movies with minimum of fuss, and if you have the complete Gnome install then it is just there. Actually, I am completely mistaken...it's sound-juicer that is playing the cd I'm listening to right now (I usually listen to streaming mp3s that *are* played by totem)... sorry for the confusion! sound-juicer has several problems: - it depends on gstreamer/libcdio which is not a logal code combination. - It uses libmusicbrainz to extract the TOC and gets wrong TOC information for CD-extra, then tries to play data tracks. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
on Thursday 06/26/2008 Joerg Schilling([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote: Not a console player, but totem plays cds and movies with minimum of fuss, and if you have the complete Gnome install then it is just there. Actually, I am completely mistaken...it's sound-juicer that is playing the cd I'm listening to right now (I usually listen to streaming mp3s that *are* played by totem)... sorry for the confusion! sound-juicer has several problems: -it depends on gstreamer/libcdio which is not a logal code combination. -It uses libmusicbrainz to extract the TOC and gets wrong TOC information for CD-extra, then tries to play data tracks. And it wants a non-existent library libesdat.so.0 -- I await the player you are working on, but a text console version would be very convenient. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
On Wednesday 25 June 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: This looks like the two-wire cable between the CD ROM and your soundcard is missing or loose. you don't need that cable. Really. You don't. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
John covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And it wants a non-existent library libesdat.so.0 -- I await the player you are working on, but a text console version would be very convenient. cdda2wav has an interactive mode since yesterday. Check 2.01.01a42 call: cdda2wav -e -N -B to play all tracks non-interactive or call cdda2wav -e -N -interactive if you then enter e.g. read tracks 3 it will play from track 3. You may enter any new command while it is playing. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Enabling Hald services
NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA --- On Sun, 6/22/08, Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Enabling Hald services To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Sunday, June 22, 2008, 9:30 AM Norman Hakim schrieb: Ward Poelmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/21 Norman Hakim : Yes,i can the icon but i cannot open it,after i click it nothing happen. Is it i have to Run mount and dmesg using terminal? i'm using Gnome desktop manager,the id stated is 1000. So when you click, nothings happens? No error message? id should tell you a bit more. It should be something like: uid=501(user) gid=501(user) groups=501(user),80(admin) To make automount work, you need to be a member of a couple of groups. Ward When i click nothing happen no error message.i've checked the id, my account is 1000, and my acc is a member of a few groups like portage,root,daemon. What are the groups that i have to join so that i can make automount work? You need to be at least in the plugdev, cdrom, cdrw and usb groups to take the advantage of hal and mount external devices. I have grouped it in the plugdev,cdrom,cdrw and usb groups but still i cant open my external drive and i've noticed that i also having problem to open my cdrom after i double click the icon nothing happen. Can anyone help me regarding these problems. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 07:06:18 -0400, John covici wrote: Well, cdcd is what I would like to use, it thinks it is playing, and did work when I had a driv with that cable, but I hear no sound now. I think it is reading the data off of the cd and I guess its not doing the correct thing with it. Does it work if you run it as root? -- Neil Bothwick Walk softly and carry a fully charged phazer. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Wednesday 25 June 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: This looks like the two-wire cable between the CD ROM and your soundcard is missing or loose. you don't need that cable. Really. You don't. Sure. Some software can rip tracks off the CD in the background and feed the sound subsystem with them. But it uses a lot of CPU. I rather have the cable. ;-) Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] echo after playing the sound
Hello When I play a sound I can hear the short unexpected sound at the end. This unexpected sound lasts no more than a second and gives the effect of echo. It looks like a part of the original file is repeated at the end. This unexpected sound is not contained in a file. I observe it when playing mp3 file using both mplayer and mpg123. It happens on both my sound cards working in distinct machines: Sound Blaster Live! (driver: EMU10K1) Intel Corporation HD Audio Controller (driver: HDA Intel) I realized recently that this problem occured about a year ago when I updated my system with: emerge --update world Please give me any indications of how to solve this problem. Below are some details about my configuration: kernel 2.6.24.3 (OSS not included) mplayer-1.0_rc2_p25993 mpg123-1.2.0 Great Thanks for help
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 26 June 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Wednesday 25 June 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: This looks like the two-wire cable between the CD ROM and your soundcard is missing or loose. you don't need that cable. Really. You don't. Sure. Some software can rip tracks off the CD in the background and feed the sound subsystem with them. But it uses a lot of CPU. I Not true. The CPU time for ripping and playing can be neglected if done correctly. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Why does gnome-python-desktop have so many dependencies?
Hi I'm trying to run a program which requires the wnck python module, which I believe is part of the gnome-python-desktop package. I like to keep my gnome desktop minimal, but this package wants to install the following: $ emerge -vp gnome-python-desktop These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-vorbis-0.10.14 0 kB [ebuild N] media-libs/gst-plugins-good-0.10.6 USE=-debug 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-libs/gtksourceview-1.8.5-r1 USE=-debug -doc 0 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/libgtop-2.20.2 USE=-debug 756 kB [ebuild N] dev-util/cmake-2.4.6-r1 USE=emacs -vim-syntax 2,544 kB [ebuild N] sys-libs/libcap-1.10-r11 USE=python 39 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.6 USE=gnome -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-pango-0.10.14 0 kB [ebuild N] media-libs/gst-plugins-ugly-0.10.6 USE=-debug 756 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-flac-0.10.6 0 kB [ebuild N] media-libs/libdvdcss-1.2.9-r1 USE=-doc 277 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-gnomevfs-0.10.14 0 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-ogg-0.10.14 0 kB [ebuild N] media-libs/a52dec-0.7.4-r5 USE=-djbfft -oss 236 kB [ebuild N] media-libs/libmpeg2-0.4.1 USE=X -sdl 483 kB [ebuild N] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.6 USE=unicode -hfs 1,375 kB [ebuild N] media-libs/libdvdread-0.9.7 380 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-a52dec-0.10.6 0 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-mpeg2dec-0.10.6 0 kB [ebuild N] app-cdr/dvd+rw-tools-7.1 138 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-dvdread-0.10.6 0 kB [ebuild N] gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner-2.20.0 USE=cdr dvdr -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] media-video/totem-2.20.3 USE=bluetooth dvd flac gnome python vorbis -a52 -debug -ffmpeg -galago -hal -lirc -mad -mpeg -nsplugin -nvtv -ogg -seamonkey -theora -xulrunner -xv 0 kB [ebuild N] gnome-extra/gnome-media-2.20.1 USE=ipv6 vorbis -debug -esd -mad -ogg 0 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/gnome-python-desktop-2.20.0 USE=X -debug -doc 0 kB Total: 25 packages (25 new), Size of downloads: 6,981 kB I was wondering if anyone knows whether the package really needs all these dependencies, as it seems ludicrous to be installing video players etc, just for the sake of a python module. Many thanks Alastair Irving -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Why does gnome-python-desktop have so many dependencies?
Well, the README in the source of this package says: This package contains a few python modules that used to live in gnome-python-extras: - gnomeapplet - gnomeprint, gnomeprint.ui - gtksourceview - wnck - totem.plparser - gtop - nautilusburn - mediaprofiles - metacity Sounds like you might wanna ping upstream (not Gentoo) if you feel this package should be changed. - Brian On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Alastair Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm trying to run a program which requires the wnck python module, which I believe is part of the gnome-python-desktop package. I like to keep my gnome desktop minimal, but this package wants to install the following: $ emerge -vp gnome-python-desktop These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-vorbis-0.10.14 0 kB [ebuild N] media-libs/gst-plugins-good-0.10.6 USE=-debug 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-libs/gtksourceview-1.8.5-r1 USE=-debug -doc 0 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/libgtop-2.20.2 USE=-debug 756 kB [ebuild N] dev-util/cmake-2.4.6-r1 USE=emacs -vim-syntax 2,544 kB [ebuild N] sys-libs/libcap-1.10-r11 USE=python 39 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.6 USE=gnome -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-pango-0.10.14 0 kB [ebuild N] media-libs/gst-plugins-ugly-0.10.6 USE=-debug 756 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-flac-0.10.6 0 kB [ebuild N] media-libs/libdvdcss-1.2.9-r1 USE=-doc 277 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-gnomevfs-0.10.14 0 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-ogg-0.10.14 0 kB [ebuild N] media-libs/a52dec-0.7.4-r5 USE=-djbfft -oss 236 kB [ebuild N] media-libs/libmpeg2-0.4.1 USE=X -sdl 483 kB [ebuild N] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.6 USE=unicode -hfs 1,375 kB [ebuild N] media-libs/libdvdread-0.9.7 380 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-a52dec-0.10.6 0 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-mpeg2dec-0.10.6 0 kB [ebuild N] app-cdr/dvd+rw-tools-7.1 138 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-dvdread-0.10.6 0 kB [ebuild N] gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner-2.20.0 USE=cdr dvdr -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] media-video/totem-2.20.3 USE=bluetooth dvd flac gnome python vorbis -a52 -debug -ffmpeg -galago -hal -lirc -mad -mpeg -nsplugin -nvtv -ogg -seamonkey -theora -xulrunner -xv 0 kB [ebuild N] gnome-extra/gnome-media-2.20.1 USE=ipv6 vorbis -debug -esd -mad -ogg 0 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/gnome-python-desktop-2.20.0 USE=X -debug -doc 0 kB Total: 25 packages (25 new), Size of downloads: 6,981 kB I was wondering if anyone knows whether the package really needs all these dependencies, as it seems ludicrous to be installing video players etc, just for the sake of a python module. Many thanks Alastair Irving -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Why does gnome-python-desktop have so many dependencies?
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Alastair Irving wrote: Hi I'm trying to run a program which requires the wnck python module, which I believe is part of the gnome-python-desktop package. I like to keep my gnome desktop minimal, but this package wants to install the following: You're going about this the wrong way. Rather post which program you want to run, why it needs a python module, then we can help you figure out how to avoid emerging the known universe. The info you have given describes an end result but we have no idea how you got there. Incidentally, what happens if you remove the X USE flag and try again? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 答复: [gentoo-user] Atheros 5xxx driver in kernel 2.6.24-gentoo-r5
Am Donnerstag, 26. Juni 2008 schrieb Zhou Rui:
Finally, I emerged madwifi-ng and the WLAN card works. Add if I do the cmd
manually:
# /etc/init.d/net.ath0 start
the interface can get IP address from dhcp normally. But when I add the
net. ath0 to the
runlevel default and reboot, it cannot obtain the IP information with
dhcpcd... That means
I have to run the network restart script every time the system boots... Can
you give me some
advices about this?
Did you autoload the module at boot (see /etc/conf.d/modules:
modules=ath_pci)?
# cat /etc/conf.d/net
# This blank configuration will automatically use DHCP for any net.*
# scripts in /etc/init.d. To create a more complete configuration,
# please review /etc/conf.d/net.example and save your configuration
# in /etc/conf.d/net (this file :]!).
# config_eth0=( dhcp )
# dhcp_eth0=nonis nontp
modules=( iwconfig )
key_xx=[1] ------cc key [1] enc restricted
preferred_aps=( xx )
Hmm, isn't that WEP only (not sure)?
config_ath0=( dhcp )
dhcp_ath0=nonis nontp
Here's mine:
modules=( wpa_supplicant dhcpcd )
wpa_supplicant_ath0=-Dmadwifi
wpa_timeout_ath0=60
essid_ath0=my_network_name
config_my_network_name=( dhcp )
key_my_network_name=s:my_wpa_key
And finally, my wpa_supplicant.conf:
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=0
eapol_version=1
# ap_scan=2 was the one for me you may try 0 or 1 indstead of 2
ap_scan=0
fast_reauth=1
network={
ssid=my_network_name
proto=WPA
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
pairwise=TKIP
group=TKIP
psk=my_wpa_key
}
Of course, you need to emerge wpa_supplicant.
HTH...
Dirk
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Re: [gentoo-user] Why does gnome-python-desktop have so many dependencies?
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 06:42:05PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 26 June 2008, Alastair Irving wrote: Hi I'm trying to run a program which requires the wnck python module, which I believe is part of the gnome-python-desktop package. I like to keep my gnome desktop minimal, but this package wants to install the following: You're going about this the wrong way. Rather post which program you want to run, why it needs a python module, then we can help you figure out how to avoid emerging the known universe. The info you have given describes an end result but we have no idea how you got there. Incidentally, what happens if you remove the X USE flag and try again? The X use flag doesn't seem to make any difference. as for what i'm trying to do, i was installing the latest version of the orca screenreader from source, as I wanted a more up-to-date version than that provided by portage. The portage version doesn't depend on wnck but all more recent versions do. If there's no solution then I presume when the next version gets added to portage it'll require all the dependencies which will be rather inconvenient. Hope this clarrifies the situation Alastair -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My last words on cryptology and cryptography.
Alan McKinnon wrote: The calculation is quite simple - measure how quickly a specific computer can match keys. Divide this into the size of the keyspace. The average time to brute force a key is half that value. AFAIK this still averages out at enormous numbers of years, even at insane calculation rates like what RoadRunner can achieve. 256 bit keys. The 115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007913129639936 keys are quite a lot to check (although, if all the atoms in the universe [estimated 10^78] were to test 1 key/sec, it'd only take about 0.1157920892 seconds). However.. 512 bit keys with all the atoms testing a trillion keys/second would take about (2^512)/(10^78)/60/60/24/(36525/100)/(10^12) or 4.2486779507765473608e56 years.. I submit that brute forcing an AES key of reasonably length is currently impossible in an amount of time that would matter to the human race. kashani -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Why does gnome-python-desktop have so many dependencies?
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Alastair Irving wrote: as for what i'm trying to do, i was installing the latest version of the orca screenreader from source, as I wanted a more up-to-date version than that provided by portage. The portage version doesn't depend on wnck but all more recent versions do. If there's no solution then I presume when the next version gets added to portage it'll require all the dependencies which will be rather inconvenient. Hope this clarrifies the situation Yes that does clarify things. orca is part of gnome to a greater or lesser degree so it's not surprising it and wnck want to pull in that long list of packages. Have you tried building wnck also from source? If that doesn't work then I would suggest you look for a more recent orca in an overlay, or wait for something to hit portage. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful... -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Possibly OT: word-wrapping on bugs.gentoo.org
Hi there, Sorry if this is a dumb-ass question, but am I the only person who has problems with the word-wrapping on bugs.gentoo.org? For instance, comments 5 - 10 of http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi? id=84011 are impossible to read for me, because the text overflows off the right of the page and if I want to read it I have to scroll a horizontal scrollbar at the bottom of the page. I have to scroll all the way right for each line, then all the way left to read the next one. This is frustrating to a degree that it makes the information on the page near-useless. I have to admit that I'm using a Mac as my desktop computer, but I have tried this in Firefox as well as Safari and get the same thing. Do you also see this using the browsers available on your Linux desktops? I think it's always been this way, but in the past I have never needed to read a bug with so much information misformatted this way. Presumably there are workarounds available, can someone let me in on the secret? I had this idea that this was a common problem, but of course google for word wrapping bugs.gentoo.org returns word wrapping bugs with nano kmail which happen to be filed on the site. A bit more Googling finds: Server-Side Comment Wrapping In older Bugzillas, comments were wrapped to 80 characters by the user's web browser, and then stored in the database that way. This caused problems because some browsers did not wrap comments properly. Now, Bugzilla stores comments unwrapped and wraps them at display time, so all new comments should be properly wrapped. Also, when you upgrade, Bugzilla will look for old mis-wrapped comments and attempt to wrap them properly. http://www.bugzilla.org/releases/2.20/release-notes.html But this does not seem effective against older comments in this particular bug report. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84011 Do I simply have to live with it? Stroller. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] vmplayer broke again
Hi all, vmplayer broke again. I guess my last update had to do with gtk but still when running vmplayer I get: process 5474: Attempt to remove filter function 0xb58653a0 user data 0x8678f18,but no such filter has been added D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace. Already tried to reinstall vmware-player (v 1.0.6.80404) after going to /opt/vmware/player/bin/vmware-uninstall.pl and also /opt/vmware/player/bin/vmware-config.pl. Any idea? -- Regards. David Harel, == Home office +972 77 7657645 Fax:+972 77 7657645 Cellular: +972 54 4534502 Snail Mail: Amuka D.N Merom Hagalil 13802 Israel Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Possibly OT: word-wrapping on bugs.gentoo.org
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:36:57 +0100 Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip For what it's worth, that particular bug has word-wrapping problems here on Opera and Linux. However, its one of the few bugs I've ever seen that has problems with wrapping. Seems your stuck with it for now... -- Ken69267 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My last words on cryptology and cryptography.
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Thursday 26 June 2008, 10:54:43 The calculation is quite simple - measure how quickly a specific computer can match keys. Divide this into the size of the keyspace. The average time to brute force a key is half that value. AFAIK this still averages out at enormous numbers of years, even at insane calculation rates like what RoadRunner can achieve. According to Wikipedia RoadRunner is designed for 1.7 petaflops in peak. Assuming for the sake of simplicity, that decryption can be performed within a single flop: (2^256) / (1.7 * 10^15) / 2 ~= 3.5 * 10^61 In years: 3.5 * 10^61 / 3600 / 24 / 356 ~= 10^54 Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems impossible to me, to reduce this get the required amount somewhere near to the life time of a human being ;) -- Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters. (Rosa Luxemburg) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] My last words on cryptology and cryptography.
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Sebastian Wiesner wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Thursday 26 June 2008, 10:54:43 The calculation is quite simple - measure how quickly a specific computer can match keys. Divide this into the size of the keyspace. The average time to brute force a key is half that value. AFAIK this still averages out at enormous numbers of years, even at insane calculation rates like what RoadRunner can achieve. According to Wikipedia RoadRunner is designed for 1.7 petaflops in peak. Assuming for the sake of simplicity, that decryption can be performed within a single flop: (2^256) / (1.7 * 10^15) / 2 ~= 3.5 * 10^61 In years: 3.5 * 10^61 / 3600 / 24 / 356 ~= 10^54 Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems impossible to me, to reduce this get the required amount somewhere near to the life time of a human being ;) Even with your ultra-liberal assumptions, it still comes out to: 1 times longer than the entire universe is believed to have existed thus far (14 billion years). That is an unbelievable stupendously long period of time. Yeah, I'd agree that brute force is utterly unfeasible as a vector of attack. Not even the almighty NSA could ever pull that one off as there simply aren't enough atoms in the universe to make a supercomputer big enough. Numbers don't lie. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
Joerg Schilling wrote: sound-juicer has several problems: - it depends on gstreamer/libcdio which is not a logal code combination. - It uses libmusicbrainz to extract the TOC and gets wrong TOC information for CD-extra, then tries to play data tracks. No doubt true (as you clearly know about this stuff), however: - Irrelevant to me as it plays the cds as required (thats *all* it need to do). - An enhanced cd with data tracks etc is not actually a cd according the Phillip spec... While it may be that your player will be superior when it comes out, I'm happy listening to music now... Best wishes Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: sound-juicer has several problems: - it depends on gstreamer/libcdio which is not a logal code combination. - It uses libmusicbrainz to extract the TOC and gets wrong TOC information for CD-extra, then tries to play data tracks. No doubt true (as you clearly know about this stuff), however: - Irrelevant to me as it plays the cds as required (thats *all* it need to do). - An enhanced cd with data tracks etc is not actually a cd according the Phillip spec... Well, it is on the Philips specs and is called CD+ or CDextra. A more general problem is the license incompatibility with libcdio. Sun dropped libcdio already a year ago after Sun lawyers detected the problem and I expect that Linux distros will do the same soon. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My last words on cryptology and cryptography.
I submit that brute forcing an AES key of reasonably length is currently impossible in an amount of time that would matter to the human race. On average yes. As already pointed out, however, there is nothing to prevent the first guess from matching a key and cracking one particular example of the cipher in 0.0001 seconds. Therefore, brute forcing an AES key of any length is quite possible, even if it is unlikely. q.e.d. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] What cpu type in make.conf for E4600
A computer of mine died, and I'm now setting up the replacement. What do I set -march= to in /etc/make.conf? Below is cpuinfo data for one of the cores... livecd gentoo # cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 15 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4600 @ 2.40GHz stepping: 13 cpu MHz : 2394.034 cache size : 2048 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 10 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts pni monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm bogomips: 4790.94 clflush size: 64 -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stop the Squeegee Kids in Pinstripe Suits Fight Canadian internet taxes http://walterdnes.wordpress.com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] h
On Donnerstag, 26. Juni 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 26 June 2008, Sebastian Wiesner wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Thursday 26 June 2008, 10:54:43 The calculation is quite simple - measure how quickly a specific computer can match keys. Divide this into the size of the keyspace. The average time to brute force a key is half that value. AFAIK this still averages out at enormous numbers of years, even at insane calculation rates like what RoadRunner can achieve. According to Wikipedia RoadRunner is designed for 1.7 petaflops in peak. Assuming for the sake of simplicity, that decryption can be performed within a single flop: (2^256) / (1.7 * 10^15) / 2 ~= 3.5 * 10^61 In years: 3.5 * 10^61 / 3600 / 24 / 356 ~= 10^54 Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems impossible to me, to reduce this get the required amount somewhere near to the life time of a human being ;) Even with your ultra-liberal assumptions, it still comes out to: 1 times longer than the entire universe is believed to have existed thus far (14 billion years). That is an unbelievable stupendously long period of time. Yeah, I'd agree that brute force is utterly unfeasible as a vector of attack. Not even the almighty NSA could ever pull that one off as there simply aren't enough atoms in the universe to make a supercomputer big enough. Numbers don't lie. and this is why nobody uses brute force. There a better ways to crack keys. NSA has tons of experts in mathematics and cryptoanalysis. Plus very sophisticated hardware. I am sure for most ciphers they use something much more efficient than stupid brute force. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What cpu type in make.conf for E4600
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:09:48 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4600 @ 2.40GHz core2 if you use GCC 4.3, nocona for earlier, or set it to native if you don't use distcc. -- Neil Bothwick * * * - Tribbles - teenage mutant ninja tribbles signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] What cpu type in make.conf for E4600
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags suggests using: -march=prescott for 32-bit -march=nocona for 64-bit. Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:09:48 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4600 @ 2.40GHz core2 if you use GCC 4.3, nocona for earlier, or set it to native if you don't use distcc. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] util-linux-2.14
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 For those who may be interested, I had submitted a request to the upstream for a new patch for util-linux-2.14, and it is now available from: http://loop-aes.sourceforge.net/updates/ Just thought some people here might be interested in knowing this. Regards, Chris P.S. I wish people would stop discussing the subject of cryptology into the ground. I ended my discussion. Theoretical discussions on cryptology are really off-topic anyway... ;) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJIZBhIAAoJEIAhA8M9p9DAh7oQAIcAJbRFsIQg++LVaxX+UVjq rxha0liZjtefMxGq/92ptT4nFeR29pG3PpQ8TNvw6BHwFKxIVTg2pnvqLeOlePpV pBCf0A+d7XOpK9fZ1PjUGXB5DVND47SxJLIPo5R77kL2Xi+wQroBbnUXsyGmYxtt uLSL+OyG11OiEI+5x9AaJWqElsK9ID/5zHeA1YyMvLhwggNTpKO5Dgph7xv4OLF2 WbuYp9iSNhwp+u1R/jd36WCrCBTcUMD2bUXhHJo3rp4bBwtUqlTURUriGbWFLKnw dvhvtraiXKzibvvNCStO+W3wrizB8a85sWJwYbQXhtpU7FwDyCDvplkYyaKXQnvq IUISUJC3EvuSb1paXxbYyl+sSatoR4skPrdjTT5I/Ii6kA3dbaVKC4+x2jNLTZku Y4tqECIvS8WN2yhh9rnjV/Ehn6pKpjMmCC+zwwGIaDI7I4fXTWY34HkT7rNWLvOU 5HjT+95gSz5wX3yVUObJW4JxoNTUE2W07XQ1PBZx1SbwHZRIctqQ7002OC8JfVtm VZNohnTpNK31fmToQ5AVg3qukeF+d3F8U752arRboA8o2v50jGaXqLZlX33gV36M t6XP5H4A8/Pck3usUUIkgU4l7oh9+xbosOFz2rnqj80bgzjdOFYdnkmU+jTi0H1L ITmfDapoB2B8rGdyb9oh =IVjQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
Joerg Schilling wrote: Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - An enhanced cd with data tracks etc is not actually a cd according the Phillip spec... Well, it is on the Philips specs and is called CD+ or CDextra. Thanks Joerg - you are correct, I was not aware of the addition to the spec that allowed this (Blue Book vs Red Book spec I think?). Also I suspect I'd confused this with the copy protection additions and other stuff that really does break (either) spec... Cheers Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What cpu type in make.conf for E4600
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:13:37PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote core2 if you use GCC 4.3, nocona for earlier, or set it to native if you don't use distcc. any idea which gcc version is installed by stage3-i686-2008.0_beta2 (along with portage-2008.0_beta2 snapshot)? that makes a difference. I'll be staying with 32-bit for now, That's why I ordered only 3 gigs of ram on this machine. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stop the Squeegee Kids in Pinstripe Suits Fight Canadian internet taxes http://walterdnes.wordpress.com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What cpu type in make.conf for E4600
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 03:16:59PM -0700, Brian Johnson wrote http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags suggests using: -march=prescott for 32-bit -march=nocona for 64-bit. Thanks for the link; it looks like prescott in my case. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stop the Squeegee Kids in Pinstripe Suits Fight Canadian internet taxes http://walterdnes.wordpress.com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] h
* Volker Armin Hemmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [27.06.08 00:12]: and this is why nobody uses brute force. There a better ways to crack keys. NSA has tons of experts in mathematics and cryptoanalysis. Plus very sophisticated hardware. I am sure for most ciphers they use something much more efficient than stupid brute force. The thing about this keys is, that there is no better way than to brute force such keys. The algorithm uses a function which inverse is a known hard problem which resides in NP, which is a class of functions equal to just guessing. If the NSA had a sufficient algorithm, that is capable of reducing the time that much, they should also be able to prove P=NP. This is worth 1.000.000$ iirc and somehow you should get a Nobel Prize for it. For deeper and better insight, take some courses in cryptography and theoretical computer sience, they are quiet good at Clausthal. Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx [EMAIL PROTECTED]@N GÜNTHER mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpjnQdD0cDAN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] h
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:47:34 +0200, Sebastian Günther wrote: If the NSA had a sufficient algorithm, that is capable of reducing the time that much, they should also be able to prove P=NP. This is worth 1.000.000$ iirc and somehow you should get a Nobel Prize for it. I'm sure the NSA would be happy to forego the prize and keep quiet about being able to break a secure cipher. Just like our GCHQ came up with public key cryptography several years before Rivest, Shamir and Adleman published RSA but kept it secret for over 30 years. -- Neil Bothwick If I save time, when do I get it back? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] util-linux-2.14
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:29:31 -0400, Chris Walters wrote: P.S. I wish people would stop discussing the subject of cryptology into the ground. I ended my discussion. Mailing list threads are like children, you create them but soon lose control of them :) -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh, as Smurfette got dressed. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] What cpu type in make.conf for E4600
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:43:48 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: core2 if you use GCC 4.3, nocona for earlier, or set it to native if you don't use distcc. any idea which gcc version is installed by stage3-i686-2008.0_beta2 (along with portage-2008.0_beta2 snapshot)? No, but gcc -v will tell you. I'd guess it was 4.1.2 though, that's the most recent stable version. I'll be staying with 32-bit for now, That's why I ordered only 3 gigs of ram on this machine. In which case, the distinction is moot, use prescott. -- Neil Bothwick This is the day for firm decisions! Or is it? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] util-linux-2.14
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Neil Bothwick wrote: | On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:29:31 -0400, Chris Walters wrote: | | P.S. I wish people would stop discussing the subject of cryptology | into the ground. I ended my discussion. | | Mailing list threads are like children, you create them but soon lose | control of them :) Hi Neil, Actually, if a theory I read about in theoretical physics is true - that is that all events that have occurred, are occurring, and will occur coexist together, and that we only perceive them as being linear because our brains are not capable of experiencing reality any other way, then I already lost control of my children long before the first humans walked the Earth... It would also have some implications to cryptography, if we could somehow perceive the past or the future. :) Liked your tag line in the last message. Did you save your time in a bottle? If not, it is lost, and if so, you can use it or sell it...lol. Regards, Chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJIZC2AAAoJEIAhA8M9p9DAJYwP/iMZ8RyLTJKAi5WHXBb4H6bC WsaXT42WagoFhrsZIC4wNrEbGhhisIKHqYee0QeBl3ptOVELHzdRcAGWD+0wP86W tMU5cwUc0p4zt6J31cgbHYL0aqI36cVbybp9UlOKNK6nx0Uxh2kXC6uzM19+FtQ5 FRkugzafGR8vhrJZhfdPhTAinszOevOUr58IhFBCddaykw9EwGnj/GUj+vqVdfuu Mk+NMxroaHrPzmZPeVdkIyMaLHNMohpOIIxTUEiRbxC363Zx7ZxeA8E6EABEnrvg C3ixdfpOsyopn/zXZ+27VZutd2+Q5eobH/5Ay7ZPH1qVPkJQW9arMoEUpsEMg5GU BKouumxvniWmdzKNHxAtYPs4ScyRNa0whVy1VvRB1nWtEsL1BwEbK+HRXQDylsj+ mOdrnd5mE4d8w625ejizvr30luKAXcIvCbY4zJWAxVsy2R8cyTsSVISjoyavS4rx kqMzKFBldhmAzRlGeNuGjlc+KFxaaWOISKYTrncq0pJ2E3EDf7ruwzL0YPGJBK2v GmjLRPi4AAaKitSbLdp8G+5IzQri+w0DpgcPhtkFVx9Gb5UClyaJ9JrjxSQ5gHQn oqTgh3hT3/Z62UHO9iJaQA8xBsJd+M5a8CCJHNSEcT7OEOI6xoS7+CJnp3H9G1oW 1SrhUFreJLeqAeQzSeyp =AE5k -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My last words on cryptology and cryptography.
Steven Lembark wrote: I submit that brute forcing an AES key of reasonably length is currently impossible in an amount of time that would matter to the human race. On average yes. As already pointed out, however, there is nothing to prevent the first guess from matching a key and cracking one particular example of the cipher in 0.0001 seconds. Therefore, brute forcing an AES key of any length is quite possible, even if it is unlikely. q.e.d. This is not interesting data nor particularly relevant. That said, the chances of your key is not randomly guessed are far far better than average. Getting lucky is not the same as being able to evaluate a significant portion of the key space in a short period of time. kashani -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] h
Sebastian Günther wrote: * Volker Armin Hemmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [27.06.08 00:12]: and this is why nobody uses brute force. There a better ways to crack keys. NSA has tons of experts in mathematics and cryptanalysis. Plus very sophisticated hardware. I am sure for most ciphers they use something much more efficient than stupid brute force. The thing about this keys is, that there is no better way than to brute force such keys. The algorithm uses a function which inverse is a known hard problem which resides in NP, which is a class of functions equal to just guessing. I don't believe this is true. The algorithm uses a function which is *assumed* to be a hard problem. You assume the problem is hard because you and anyone you know have not been able to make it easy. That does not mean that someone has not discovered some math that does make it easy. Here's a reference to the interesting meet-in-the-middle attack which reduced 3DES key space down to 112 bits from 192. Obviously that was unknown when 3DES was built. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_DES#Security kashani -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] stage3-i686-2008.0_beta2 builds kernel in x86 directory
Is this a problem, or simply a name change? The filename says i686 and I have 'CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu' in /etc/make.conf, but the kernel ends up as /usr/src/linux/arch/x86/boot/bzImage I noticed this when I tried running a couple of scripts that I use to organize my production and experimental kernels, so that lilo finds them. No problem changing the scripts to copy from a different directory, but inquiring minds want to know. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stop the Squeegee Kids in Pinstripe Suits Fight Canadian internet taxes http://walterdnes.wordpress.com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros 5xxx driver in kernel 2.6.24-gentoo-r5
Did you autoload the module at boot (see /etc/conf.d/modules:
modules=ath_pci)?
I don't write the profile, because the module can be loaded automatically
at boot.
I used TKIP in my D-Link Router, so I emerged wpa_supplicant yesterday,
it works fine. But at Linksys WRT54G which use shared WEP, still cannot
obtain the IP at boot, then I switch the encryption of WRT54G to TKIP, it
got
the address... Now I think there may be some issue at the WEP connection
initial stage, so at last, this card works fine for me. Thank you very much.
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发件人: Dirk Heinrichs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
发送时间: 2008年6月27日 1:56
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主题: Re: [gentoo-user] 答复: [gentoo-user] Atheros 5xxx driver in kernel 2.
6.24-gentoo-r5
Am Donnerstag, 26. Juni 2008 schrieb Zhou Rui:
Finally, I emerged madwifi-ng and the WLAN card works. Add if I do the
cmd
manually:
# /etc/init.d/net.ath0 start
the interface can get IP address from dhcp normally. But when I add
the net. ath0 to the runlevel default and reboot, it cannot obtain the
IP information with dhcpcd... That means I have to run the network
restart script every time the system boots... Can you give me some
advices about this?
# cat /etc/conf.d/net
# This blank configuration will automatically use DHCP for any net.* #
scripts in /etc/init.d. To create a more complete configuration, #
please review /etc/conf.d/net.example and save your configuration # in
/etc/conf.d/net (this file :]!).
# config_eth0=( dhcp )
# dhcp_eth0=nonis nontp
modules=( iwconfig )
key_xx=[1] ------cc key [1] enc restricted
preferred_aps=( xx )
Hmm, isn't that WEP only (not sure)?
config_ath0=( dhcp )
dhcp_ath0=nonis nontp
Here's mine:
modules=( wpa_supplicant dhcpcd )
wpa_supplicant_ath0=-Dmadwifi
wpa_timeout_ath0=60
essid_ath0=my_network_name
config_my_network_name=( dhcp )
key_my_network_name=s:my_wpa_key
And finally, my wpa_supplicant.conf:
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=0
eapol_version=1
# ap_scan=2 was the one for me you may try 0 or 1 indstead of 2 ap_scan=0
fast_reauth=1
network={
ssid=my_network_name
proto=WPA
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
pairwise=TKIP
group=TKIP
psk=my_wpa_key
}
Of course, you need to emerge wpa_supplicant.
HTH...
Dirk
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Re: [gentoo-user] stage3-i686-2008.0_beta2 builds kernel in x86 directory
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Is this a problem, or simply a name change? The filename says i686 | and I have 'CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu' in /etc/make.conf, but the kernel | ends up as /usr/src/linux/arch/x86/boot/bzImage | | I noticed this when I tried running a couple of scripts that I use to | organize my production and experimental kernels, so that lilo finds | them. No problem changing the scripts to copy from a different | directory, but inquiring minds want to know. Hi, This happens with x86-based architectures, I believe. I use an x86_64 profile, but the bzImage ends up in (from the linux directory) 'arch/x86/boot'. The 'arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage' is just a symlink to that. It is probably because most of the base kernel source for any x86 based processor is the same. I wouldn't worry about it, unless your system identifies the kernel as an i386 kernel. Regards, Chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJIZEwuAAoJEIAhA8M9p9DAaBEQAMWoUbKqIMAGlMHoCZ6j+qg6 iz8yHD15Uvkym2+IQUMqNSH9Fb5USwQJkhMtO7OxLhHEUlTNvHofRqmL3LG8YWVj tKYDqZ4D9Qv4w9kwxUcqvNq8l4+mWcVE4yVAM9GczX6kgIBVcLuA0YsVaEuolQhr dmoGYY5J2JwtWWUh0kVx7I/ITKea15JR7BQ77GLf6F8SOPGwt39wzBifrEM/LFmW KJHiVYxWvlaFNqybxEC5B9pJFAwXcOZ2DrAEr7IEo33SolrojYifh1Y2QV/0cbet XRdFflo3dWZQIn4iH5x30CTBspbBxz9nloEhQC3dunjFM4rd4sFqxdqsXDdhHa/m yo6AZ9LpLoTfEsMyS4GcHWI+5WFUjilxnnqJ5cdMwH2V3ox63xc/qNDRkGzgWeXt 8rNcRLkcDUiPs1yncwtCc2EI38ernDjUj1jqFines/BLm8Pi5g6An7ZRZoZno+kz d4L1U759KxQovuQbOx5H0BuJGnnC04c1V3DZAqwZg6aRxO74HoAAxkxrwnZh+16T RDilHbI6P5IhcoAzapSAjugC43WJKNimcue6Kx1z0Z1WN5Aq6FB2xT4MOFLOKuvD Pjq0AFT62gDUhFwGv0F8sfYIBZ6mHT5+tuarOnNUCgfUF2VGCnVkax2pL6AKvHxx kQ0sGCaRCXccDlXU4qls =6tLC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] SOLVED Re: gnucash pulls in firefox (when I already have firefox-bin)
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Dan Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 24 June 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:39:12 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: treat Virtual Machines # emerge -at gnucash These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] app-office/gnucash-2.2.3 USE=quotes -chipcard -debug -hbci -ofx [ebuild N] app-doc/gnucash-docs-2.2.0 [ebuild N] gnome-extra/yelp-2.20.0 USE=-beagle -debug -xulrunner [ebuild N]www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.14 USE=gnome ipv6 java yelp is pulling in firefox because you do not have xulrunner in USE. firefox-bin is no use, the program needs the header files for either firefox or xulrunner. The current recommendation is to use xulrunner instead of firefox in this situation, and in your USE flags. This makes sense, but I thought I already had that covered. Here are the two USE lines in my /etc/make.conf -- note the last few entries in the main one. USE=Xaw3d aim apache2 apm bash-completion bcmath -bluetooth calendar caps cscope ctype dbm exif fastcgi foomaticdb gphoto2 guile icq imap imlib java joystick libwww mailwrapper mbox mcal mime mmap mmx motif mpi mysql nis nsplugin odbc offensive openal oscar pic posix postgres ppds ruby samba snmp sockets sse ssl svga symlink sysvipc tetex usb xpm xulrunner yahoo -firefox -seamonkey Is all this on one line and the MUA has folded the line or are you missing the \ on each line? It's all on one line. Sorting out my use flags to put xulrunner on yelp has fixed my problems. Thanks to all -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] gnucash pulls in firefox (when I already have firefox-bin)
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:19 AM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:40:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: This makes sense. What doesn't make sense is why does an accounting package need to build against a rendering engine? I can't see the connection The doc USE flag makes gnucash depend on gnucash-docs, which in turn depends on yelp. That's what requires the HTML engine. I'm getting OT here, but I just wonder if FF-bin couldn't export a set of headers, as the kernels do. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
