Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?

2008-06-28 Thread Philip Webb
080628 William Kenworthy top-posted (ugh!): On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 12:41 -0700, Grant wrote: Lately it seems like a new problem pops up every day and every time I try to do something new it doesn't work. Anybody else experiencing that lately? My Gentoo systems get this way for one of two

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?

2008-06-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 28 June 2008, Philip Webb wrote: 'emerge world' is the source of many problems regularly reported here. Do you mean 'emerge world enter' as opposed to the much more sensible 'emerge -p world', examine output for problems, consider each update, examine USE flag changes for impact,

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-06-28 Thread Joerg Schilling
b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling ha scritto: The URLs mentioned did point to disinformation from lwn.net that should be easily identifyable as incorrect claims. If such URLs are published without comment, I asume that the questionair believes the incorrect claims from

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-06-28 Thread Stroller
On 28 Jun 2008, at 02:41, Daniel Iliev wrote: On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 00:20:50 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question is valid and interesting, moreover it is asked very kindly. I can't see what possibly might be preventing you to

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?

2008-06-28 Thread Stroller
On 28 Jun 2008, at 03:47, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I think it could be the pick-and-mix approach to keywording, I use pure | ~amd64 on my desktop and laptop and the only problems I've had recently | turned out to be a

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-06-28 Thread Joerg Schilling
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The URLs mentioned did point to disinformation from lwn.net that should be easily identifyable as incorrect claims. If such URLs are published without comment, I asume that the questionair believes the incorrect claims from lwn.net. Would you answer

Re: [gentoo-user] vmplayer broke again

2008-06-28 Thread David Harel
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 27 June 2008, David Harel wrote: Hi all, vmplayer broke again. I guess my last update had to do with gtk but Have you had a kernel upgrade recently and if so, did you update the vmware modules before rebooting and using vmware again? Although I

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-06-28 Thread Joerg Schilling
Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you continue to attack me? Do you really believe that this helps? Why didn't you use Google to find and read my FAQ for the topic on the cdrtools web page? The CD/DVD related questions on this list that I answer are all based on bugs introduced by the

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?

2008-06-28 Thread Dave Jones
Alan McKinnon wrote on 28/06/08 08:54: The ~x86 branch seems to have settled into not-so-cutting-edge anymore, quite similar to what other distros release - Ubuntu for examples. x86 seems to be taking it's lead lately from Debian :-) Would it were so! tcp-wrappers bug 158306, opened on

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-06-28 Thread b.n.
Joerg Schilling ha scritto: No, this is your assumption. Mine is the opposite - as I see it, the question is very real and the author admitted that he found those URLs using Google which implies he had nothing to do them. Could you explain me why he did not read the information on the cdrtools

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-06-28 Thread b.n.
Joerg Schilling ha scritto: Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you continue to attack me? Do you really believe that this helps? Repeat with me, Joerg. No one is attacking me. Take a deep breath and repeat. No one is attacking me. Again and again and again. Joerg, really. You suffer

[gentoo-user] OT: PATA performance

2008-06-28 Thread Florian Philipp
Hi list! I've got a little question. Here I've got a PC with two 40GB hard disks, a CD-burner and a DVD-burner, all PATA. Now I'm running out of disk space and I'm thinking about ways to increase it: 1. I could replace the older 40GB disk with a new model but I'd hate to trash it because it's

[gentoo-user] DMRAID and complex setups

2008-06-28 Thread Florian Philipp
Hi list! I a PC of mine I've got two 160GB and a 320GB disk. I'd like to create a JBOD (a.k.a. Concatenation) of the two 160GB disks and create a RAID1 out of that JBOD and the 320GB disk. Can dmraid / mdadm handle such setups? Is there anything I have to take care of? Would a mixed setup of

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-06-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Hi, Jörg, you do have a point (or two) and guys? Cut him some slack, ok? I had my 'clashes' with him in the past, and yes, sometimes he is tiresome to deal with or too tempting to provoke him, but this whole mess is really not his fault or only to a very small part that could easily explained

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?

2008-06-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
so, have you asked to become its maintainer to fix the bugs? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-06-28 Thread Mick
On Thursday 26 June 2008, John covici wrote: on Thursday 06/26/2008 Joerg Schilling([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote Then call: cdda2wav -e -N -B If everything is OK, then you will be able to listen to the music. Otherwise you see human readble error messages that point you to the

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-06-28 Thread John covici
on Saturday 06/28/2008 Mick([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote On Thursday 26 June 2008, John covici wrote: on Thursday 06/26/2008 Joerg Schilling([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote Then call: cdda2wav -e -N -B If everything is OK, then you will be able to listen to the music.

Re: [gentoo-user] vmplayer broke again

2008-06-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 28 June 2008, David Harel wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 27 June 2008, David Harel wrote: Hi all, vmplayer broke again. I guess my last update had to do with gtk but Have you had a kernel upgrade recently and if so, did you update the vmware modules before

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-06-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 28 June 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you continue to attack me? Joerg, He is not attacking you. Here's some good advice: drop the paranoia. please. Stroller is going out of his way and bending over backwards to invite you to answer some

Re: [gentoo-user] MDRAID and complex setups

2008-06-28 Thread Florian Philipp
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:02:23 +0200 Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list! I a PC of mine I've got two 160GB and a 320GB disk. I'd like to create a JBOD (a.k.a. Concatenation) of the two 160GB disks and create a RAID1 out of that JBOD and the 320GB disk. Can dmraid / mdadm handle

[gentoo-user] Why is /tmp/jack busy?

2008-06-28 Thread Mark Knecht
and what's with this time stamp value? When I boot this machine it gets to a point where it says something like 'Wiping /tmp...' and then I see a message 'Unable to remove ./jack' and then something about the device or directory being busy. When I log in as root and try to remove it by hand this

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?

2008-06-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:50:07 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Do you think I might have swung from being waay too verbose to being waay too brief? Do you want the long answer or the short answer? ;-) -- Neil Bothwick When puns are outlawed only outlaws will have puns. signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?

2008-06-28 Thread Dave Jones
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote on 28/06/08 14:12: so, have you asked to become its maintainer to fix the bugs? Lacking the necessary skills, no. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?

2008-06-28 Thread Mike Edenfield
Grant wrote: | I think it could be the pick-and-mix approach to keywording, I use pure | ~amd64 on my desktop and laptop and the only problems I've had recently | turned out to be a corrupt root filesystem. | | yeah, mixing isn't good. Pure systems are way more stable. Now that's an

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-06-28 Thread Stroller
On 28 Jun 2008, at 12:02, Joerg Schilling wrote: Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipped? Why do you continue to attack me? You're a nutter, mate. Why didn't you use Google to find and read my FAQ for the topic on the cdrtools web page? Why didn't you just give me the URL of your

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-06-28 Thread Daniel Iliev
Joerg, I'd be glad if you (can) explain me where I'm wrong. GPL, Section 0, Sentence 1: == This License applies to any program or other work which contains a notice placed by the copyright holder saying it may be distributed under the terms of this General Public License. ==

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?

2008-06-28 Thread Philip Webb
080628 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:53:53 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: 'emerge world' is the source of many problems regularly reported here. No, it's changing package versions that breaks a working system, whether this is a result of running 'emerge world' or updating the guilty

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately: correction

2008-06-28 Thread Philip Webb
080628 Philip Webb wrote: I've been doing it this way for nearly 8 years Of course, I mean nearly 5 years . -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is /tmp/jack busy?

2008-06-28 Thread PaulNM
Mark Knecht wrote: and what's with this time stamp value? When I boot this machine it gets to a point where it says something like 'Wiping /tmp...' and then I see a message 'Unable to remove ./jack' and then something about the device or directory being busy. When I log in as root and try to

Re: [gentoo-user] DMRAID and complex setups

2008-06-28 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:02:23 +0200 Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list! I a PC of mine I've got two 160GB and a 320GB disk. I'd like to create a JBOD (a.k.a. Concatenation) of the two 160GB disks and create a RAID1 out of that JBOD and the 320GB disk. Can dmraid / mdadm handle

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is /tmp/jack busy?

2008-06-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:08 PM, PaulNM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: and what's with this time stamp value? When I boot this machine it gets to a point where it says something like 'Wiping /tmp...' and then I see a message 'Unable to remove ./jack' and then something about

Re: [gentoo-user] Replacing my router

2008-06-28 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:16:37 +1000 Dave Oxley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what I want to do is setup my switch as a router. No can do. I'm a bit of a newbie on advanced networking but I think that a router is basically just a switch with a VLAN for the local network and VLAN for the WAN.

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-06-28 Thread Joerg Schilling
b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read it (admittedly, read mostly the google cache because berlios.de seems slow/unreachable now). berlios.de is quick - much faster than the google cache. It may be that your internet provider has a bad peering with the German research network. It just says I

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is /tmp/jack busy?

2008-06-28 Thread PaulNM
Mark Knecht wrote: Hi Paul, Yes, ls -al shown nothing is there. Actually, I think the root cause of this is a little different than I expected. /tmp/jack is actually something that's mounted: lightning ~ # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on SNIP none

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?

2008-06-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:57:05 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: No, the problem with 'emerge world' (without '-p') is that the user hands over control of his machine to an unreliable automaton, No one has ever suggested that you run emerge world without -p or -a. Damage caused by using a tool badly

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is /tmp/jack busy?

2008-06-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:36:40 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: 2) Understand why the Gentoo boot process want to wipe mounted directories in /tmp since it won't work. Do you have wipe_tmp=yes in conf.d/bootmisc? That tells baselayout to remove everything frmo /tmp instead of only known files. --

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-06-28 Thread Joerg Schilling
b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling ha scritto: Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you continue to attack me? Do you really believe that this helps? Repeat with me, Joerg. No one is attacking me. Just because you did not read it to it's end does not meanthat he

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is /tmp/jack busy?

2008-06-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:36:40 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: 2) Understand why the Gentoo boot process want to wipe mounted directories in /tmp since it won't work. Do you have wipe_tmp=yes in conf.d/bootmisc? That tells

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: PATA performance

2008-06-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag, 28. Juni 2008, Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! I've got a little question. Here I've got a PC with two 40GB hard disks, a CD-burner and a DVD-burner, all PATA. Now I'm running out of disk space and I'm thinking about ways to increase it: 1. I could replace the older 40GB disk

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-06-28 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:33:12 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: The CDDL has been designed to be compatible with all OSS licenses. The GPL has been designed to be incompatible (*) with all other licenses including the LGPL. OpenSource needs collaboration. This cannot happen

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-06-28 Thread b.n.
Joerg Schilling ha scritto: b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling ha scritto: Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you continue to attack me? Do you really believe that this helps? Repeat with me, Joerg. No one is attacking me. Just because you did not read it to it's end

Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-06-28 Thread Mark Kirkwood
b.n. wrote: Joerg Schilling ha scritto: b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling ha scritto: Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you continue to attack me? Do you really believe that this helps? Repeat with me, Joerg. No one is attacking me. Just because you did not read it

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-06-28 Thread Norman Hakim
NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA --- On Fri, 6/27/08, Eduardo Otubo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Eduardo Otubo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 10:04 AM Norman, First understand one thing:

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-06-28 Thread Ricardo Bevilacqua
2008/6/28 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Eduardo, I have checked the content of fstab and this is the result: /dev/hda1 /bootext2defaults 1 2 /dev/hda2 none swap s w 0 0 /dev/hda3 /ext3noatime 0 1

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-06-28 Thread Cristian Gary
are you in the group plugdev ?? On 6/29/08, Ricardo Bevilacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/28 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Eduardo, I have checked the content of fstab and this is the result: /dev/hda1 /bootext2defaults 1 2 /dev/hda2 none