Re: [gentoo-user] Web based ftp alternative

2008-10-29 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:15:39PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 28 October 2008 22:10:37 Momesso Andrea wrote: Why not just have them view the ftp site in the browser? User's aren't stupid and can cope with stuff - they will see a hierarchy of folders just like what they see

Re: [gentoo-user] Web based ftp alternative

2008-10-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 29 October 2008 08:03:55 Momesso Andrea wrote: By they way I cannot cut away such a big part of the audience just because they don't have a compliant browser. So your users are mostly IE7? Then I'm afraid you have to resort to convulted ways to get around the convulted mess

Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords syntax?

2008-10-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 29 October 2008 00:55:42 Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: I mean to really know C, that is, read a rigorous book such as C: A Reference Manual and be able to write portable programs with well-defined behavior. Speaking of well-defined behavior, do you know what happens when

Re: [gentoo-user] Web based ftp alternative

2008-10-29 Thread Iain Buchanan
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 29 October 2008 08:03:55 Momesso Andrea wrote: By they way I cannot cut away such a big part of the audience just because they don't have a compliant browser. So your users are mostly IE7? Then I'm afraid you have to resort to convulted ways to get around

Re: [gentoo-user] Web based ftp alternative

2008-10-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 29 October 2008 09:26:01 Iain Buchanan wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 29 October 2008 08:03:55 Momesso Andrea wrote: By they way I cannot cut away such a big part of the audience just because they don't have a compliant browser. So your users are mostly IE7?

[gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10: Visual glitch in taskbar

2008-10-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Anyone else getting this strange colored bar at the bottom of the taskbar when using an image as taskbar background? This is with KDE 3.5.10. 3.5.9 didn't have this problem. http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7797/kdefn4.png

Re: [gentoo-user] Web based ftp alternative

2008-10-29 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 29 October 2008, 09:06, Alan McKinnon wrote: you can't use winblows extorter to drop files onto an ftp server? I would have thought that was, er, basic functionality... Yeah, that's what I thought too. The GF suspected otherwise for IE7 and confirmed it by asking that nice Mr

[gentoo-user] hibernate fails, s2disk not found

2008-10-29 Thread Walter Dnes
Before anybody asks, yes, i did check Google. I found a gazillion references to gentoo-wiki.com, which is down and therefore useless to me. First of all, my system... [d530][root][~] uname -a Linux d530 2.6.25-gentoo-r8 #1 SMP Tue Oct 28 04:44:53 EDT 2008 i686 Genuine Intel(R) CPU 2140 @

Re: [gentoo-user] telnet program

2008-10-29 Thread Florian Philipp
Neil Bothwick schrieb: On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:40:17 -0400, kcc wrote: I want to install telnet client but couldn't find the emerge search net-misc/netkit-telnetd contains client and server. If you just need a client, you can also use the one in busybox: `busybox telnet` It should be

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10: Visual glitch in taskbar

2008-10-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 29 October 2008 11:14:22 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Anyone else getting this strange colored bar at the bottom of the taskbar when using an image as taskbar background? This is with KDE 3.5.10. 3.5.9 didn't have this problem. http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7797/kdefn4.png

[gentoo-user] Re: KDE 3.5.10: Visual glitch in taskbar

2008-10-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 29 October 2008 11:14:22 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Anyone else getting this strange colored bar at the bottom of the taskbar when using an image as taskbar background? This is with KDE 3.5.10. 3.5.9 didn't have this problem.

Re: [gentoo-user] hibernate fails, s2disk not found

2008-10-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:15:56 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: Before anybody asks, yes, i did check Google. I found a gazillion references to gentoo-wiki.com, which is down and therefore useless to me. Did you try the Cached links? Many of the Wiki pages are still in Google's cache -- Neil

Re: [gentoo-user] Web based ftp alternative

2008-10-29 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:40:43AM +0200, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Wednesday 29 October 2008, 09:06, Alan McKinnon wrote: you can't use winblows extorter to drop files onto an ftp server? I would have thought that was, er, basic functionality... Yeah, that's what I thought too. The GF

[gentoo-user] eclipse plugin installation

2008-10-29 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, I've emerged dev-util/eclipse-sdk (version 3.4-r2) and comes up nicely. But when I try to download a plugin (e.g. for C++ or Python) using Help - Software Updates I get Cannot launch the Update UI. This installation has not been configure properly for Software Updates. What am I missing?

Re: [gentoo-user] telnet program

2008-10-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:33:56 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: If you just need a client, you can also use the one in busybox: `busybox telnet` Or do sudo ln -s busybox /bin/telnet and you can call it as telnet. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 36: Alone together signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-user] eclipse plugin installation

2008-10-29 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
On Wednesday 29 October 2008 13:37:15 Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, I've emerged dev-util/eclipse-sdk (version 3.4-r2) and comes up nicely. But when I try to download a plugin (e.g. for C++ or Python) using Help - Software Updates I get Cannot launch the Update UI. This installation has

Re: [gentoo-user] what is easy way to upgrade

2008-10-29 Thread KH
adrian kok schrieb: Hi I am new in gentoo what is easy way to upgrade? eg: kernel / package In some linux, they are using yum Thank you Welcome to Gentoo For the Kernel: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kernel-upgrade.xml I see a lot of users have there own way to upgrade. Mine is:

Re: [gentoo-user] what is easy way to upgrade

2008-10-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:28:47 +0800 (CST), adrian kok wrote: what is easy way to upgrade? This is Gentoo, we don't do anything the easy way ;-) -- Neil Bothwick What is a free gift ? Aren't all gifts free? signature.asc Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-user] what is easy way to upgrade

2008-10-29 Thread adrian kok
Hi I am new in gentoo what is easy way to upgrade? eg: kernel / package In some linux, they are using yum Thank you Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Re: [gentoo-user] hibernate fails, s2disk not found

2008-10-29 Thread Pintér Tibor
[d530][root][~] emerge -pv s2disk These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies | emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy s2disk. Now what? emerge -pv suspend t

Re: [gentoo-user] what is easy way to upgrade

2008-10-29 Thread David Relson
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:28:47 +0800 (CST) adrian kok wrote: Hi I am new in gentoo what is easy way to upgrade? eg: kernel / package In some linux, they are using yum Thank you The Gentoo command for loading packages is emerge. Periodically I run eix-sync to update the list of

Re: [gentoo-user] what is easy way to upgrade

2008-10-29 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2008/10/29 adrian kok [EMAIL PROTECTED]: what is easy way to upgrade? eg: kernel / package For the start I would recommend you reading the handbook. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml -- Regards, Daniel

Re: [gentoo-user] Web based ftp alternative

2008-10-29 Thread Stroller
On 29 Oct 2008, at 11:01, Momesso Andrea wrote: ... To view this FTP site in Windows Explorer, click Page, and then click Open FTP Site in Windows Explorer. Just do what it says, and you have the (cough) good old interface where you can do drag/drop etc. Hmmm... This is good news. Has

Re: [gentoo-user] Web based ftp alternative

2008-10-29 Thread Stroller
On 29 Oct 2008, at 09:40, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Wednesday 29 October 2008, 09:06, Alan McKinnon wrote: you can't use winblows extorter to drop files onto an ftp server? I would have thought that was, er, basic functionality... Yeah, that's what I thought too. The GF suspected otherwise

Re: [gentoo-user] telnet program

2008-10-29 Thread Florian Philipp
Neil Bothwick schrieb: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:33:56 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: If you just need a client, you can also use the one in busybox: `busybox telnet` Or do sudo ln -s busybox /bin/telnet and you can call it as telnet. In that case, I would link it to

Re: [gentoo-user] Web based ftp alternative

2008-10-29 Thread Stroller
On 29 Oct 2008, at 12:05, Stroller wrote: On 29 Oct 2008, at 11:01, Momesso Andrea wrote: ... To view this FTP site in Windows Explorer, click Page, and then click Open FTP Site in Windows Explorer. Just do what it says, and you have the (cough) good old interface where you can do

Re: [gentoo-user] what is easy way to upgrade

2008-10-29 Thread András Csányi
2008/10/29 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:28:47 +0800 (CST), adrian kok wrote: what is easy way to upgrade? This is Gentoo, we don't do anything the easy way ;-) Hey, this is the easiest way! ;-) -- - - -- Csanyi Andras -- http://sayusi.hu -- Sayusi Ando --

Re: [gentoo-user] Web based ftp alternative

2008-10-29 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 29 October 2008, 13:06, Stroller wrote: Ok, that's OT, but it's not that difficult. They just moved the ftp functionality from Internet explorer to Windows explorer [snip] No, they just REMOVED any extended functionality from IE. Windows Explorer has ALWAYS done FTP natively

Re: [gentoo-user] eclipse plugin installation

2008-10-29 Thread Stuart Howard
I cant remember where in preferences it was but there is an option to change to classic update style, this works a treat and should solve your problem without having to go to overlay's and the like. stu 2008/10/29 Andrew Gaydenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday 29 October 2008 13:37:15 Helmut

Re: [gentoo-user] what is easy way to upgrade

2008-10-29 Thread Ricardo Jesus
adrian kok wrote: Hi I am new in gentoo what is easy way to upgrade? eg: kernel / package In some linux, they are using yum Thank you Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Welcome aboard! For starters go through the Handbook and the

Re: [gentoo-user] what is easy way to upgrade

2008-10-29 Thread Jacques Montier
András Csányi a gentiment tapote: 2008/10/29 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:28:47 +0800 (CST), adrian kok wrote: what is easy way to upgrade? This is Gentoo, we don't do anything the easy way ;-) Hey, this is the

Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords syntax?

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Vul
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:16 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 29 October 2008 00:55:42 Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: I mean to really know C, that is, read a rigorous book such as C: A Reference Manual and be able to write portable programs with well-defined

Re: [gentoo-user] telnet program

2008-10-29 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 7:40 PM, kcc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I want to install telnet client but couldn't find the emerge search how can I get it Thank you net-misc/telnet-bsd Paul

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10: Visual glitch in taskbar

2008-10-29 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else getting this strange colored bar at the bottom of the taskbar when using an image as taskbar background? This is with KDE 3.5.10. 3.5.9 didn't have this problem.

Re: [gentoo-user] Web based ftp alternative

2008-10-29 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Stroller wrote: One simply uses Go then Connect to server - the menus indicate that the shortcut for this is Apple-K - and then types ftp://site.example.com in order to achieve an FTP connection. In the window displayed there is a + button allowing users to save favourite

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dhcpd uses fake MAC address

2008-10-29 Thread Mick
On Sunday 26 October 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: I don't need it. But in our network most people use windows - and don't know anything about computers. So they get their static ip assigned by dhcp. Once in a while the server chokes - and that is one of the

[gentoo-user] Re: eclipse plugin installation

2008-10-29 Thread James
Stuart Howard stuart.g.howard at gmail.com writes: I cant remember where in preferences it was but there is an option to change to classic update style, this works a treat and should solve your problem without having to go to overlay's and the like. OK, I found --Windows --Preferences

Re: [gentoo-user] blocks to fix

2008-10-29 Thread Andrew MacKenzie
+++ Allan Gottlieb [gentoo-user] [Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:11:48PM -0400]: It is not quite that simple. There were many posts today (28 oct) on this. I suggest reading them. You might need to unmask mit-krb5 for example. There is a danger of rendering wget and hence emerge unusable (but if

[gentoo-user] Trying to solve blockage when trying to install kde-meta-4.1.2

2008-10-29 Thread Rafael Barrera Oro
Hello people, i tried to install kde-meta-4.1.2 and i ran across a few problems. The thing is that some packages are blocking packages required for the installation The following is output of portage when displaying the blocking packages [uninstall] app-crypt/qca-1.0-r2 [?] [blocks b ]

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to solve blockage when trying to install kde-meta-4.1.2

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Vul
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Rafael Barrera Oro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello people, i tried to install kde-meta-4.1.2 and i ran across a few problems. The thing is that some packages are blocking packages required for the installation The following is output of portage when displaying

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to solve blockage when trying to install kde-meta-4.1.2

2008-10-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 29 October 2008 18:41:47 Andrey Vul wrote: [blocks B     ] sys-fs/udev-114 (sys-fs/udev-114 is blocking media-gfx/sane-backends-1.0.19-r2, media-libs/libgphoto2-2.4.2) My usual solution for problems of this kind is to mercilessly unmerge any packages that stand in my way,

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to solve blockage when trying to install kde-meta-4.1.2

2008-10-29 Thread Rafael Barrera Oro
Thank you both for your responses, i will try dealing with QT first and then emerge udev separately, without any mercilless barbaric running-around-barely-dressed-waving-an-axe-around unmerging. I'm gonna miss the sledgehammer though... Seroiusly, thanks very much for your help PD: As soon as i

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to solve blockage when trying to install kde-meta-4.1.2

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Vul
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Rafael Barrera Oro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you both for your responses, i will try dealing with QT first and then emerge udev separately, without any mercilless barbaric running-around-barely-dressed-waving-an-axe-around unmerging. It'll be faster do do

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10: Visual glitch in taskbar

2008-10-29 Thread Norberto Bensa
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7797/kdefn4.png That happens on my girlfriend account but not mine (same box BTW) This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

Re: [gentoo-user] blocks to fix

2008-10-29 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Andrew MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +++ Allan Gottlieb [gentoo-user] [Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:11:48PM -0400]: It is not quite that simple. There were many posts today (28 oct) on this. I suggest reading them. You might need to unmask mit-krb5 for

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to solve blockage when trying to install kde-meta-4.1.2

2008-10-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 29 October 2008 19:03:51 Rafael Barrera Oro wrote: Thank you both for your responses, i will try dealing with QT first and then emerge udev separately, without any mercilless barbaric running-around-barely-dressed-waving-an-axe-around unmerging. There you go, that's a good lad :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords syntax?

2008-10-29 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
I mean to really know C, that is, read a rigorous book such as C: A Reference Manual and be able to write portable programs with well-defined behavior. Speaking of well-defined behavior, do you know what happens when you cast a float to an int, and the float is too big to fit into the

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to solve blockage when trying to install kde-meta-4.1.2

2008-10-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:14:34 -0400, Andrey Vul wrote: emerge -av1 udev I prefer emerge -1pv udev look at output emerge -1 udev Which means you have to wait for the dependency resolver to run twice. Which is why it's better to use emerge -1av udev look at output press enter -- Neil

Re: [gentoo-user] blocks to fix

2008-10-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:00:41 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks all. I do need to be careful about this as the machine is 400 miles away and the user is completely unable to be of any help if it stops working meaning I have to drive or the box has to be shipped. Either alternative is not good.

Re: [gentoo-user] blocks to fix

2008-10-29 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:00:41 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks all. I do need to be careful about this as the machine is 400 miles away and the user is completely unable to be of any help if it stops working meaning I have

[gentoo-user] question about init scripts

2008-10-29 Thread Nickolay Hodyunya
What is the difference between after and need keywords in depend() function of any init script? -- Regards, Nickolay Hodyunya.

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to solve blockage when trying to install kde-meta-4.1.2

2008-10-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 29 October 2008 22:46:34 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:14:34 -0400, Andrey Vul wrote: emerge -av1 udev I prefer emerge -1pv udev look at output emerge -1 udev Which means you have to wait for the dependency resolver to run twice. Which is why it's better

Re: [gentoo-user] question about init scripts

2008-10-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 29 October 2008 23:46:07 Nickolay Hodyunya wrote: What is the difference between after and need keywords in depend() function of any init script? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=4#doc_chap4 -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] question about init scripts

2008-10-29 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Nickolay Hodyunya schrieb am 29.10.2008 22:46: What is the difference between after and need keywords in depend() function of any init script? Everything should be explained here [1] Use, need and provide are for dependencies. Need, before and after are for controlling execution order. [1]

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to solve blockage when trying to install kde-meta-4.1.2

2008-10-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:52:25 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: emerge -1av udev look at output press enter you have it wrong: emerge -1av udev do not press enter look at output press enter Looking at the output only confuses me, I prefer to skip that step :) -- Neil Bothwick The

[gentoo-user] Re: blocks to fix

2008-10-29 Thread »Q«
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:49:13 + Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a bit late now, but installing a second distro, or a bare stage 3 gentoo, as a dual boot so you can still access the machoine if it breaks. System Rescue CD is Gentoo-based and can be installed on HDD very quickly

Re: [gentoo-user] question about init scripts

2008-10-29 Thread Nickolay Hodyunya
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:57:37PM +0100, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: Nickolay Hodyunya schrieb am 29.10.2008 22:46: What is the difference between after and need keywords in depend() function of any init script? Everything should be explained here [1] Use, need and provide are for

[gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info

2008-10-29 Thread Paul Hartman
I've always been curious about something in emerge --info's output: $ emerge --info Portage 2.2_rc12 (default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop, gcc-4.3.2, glibc-2.8_p20080602-r0, 2.6.27-gentoo-r1 x86_64) = System uname: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Vul
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Paul Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always been curious about something in emerge --info's output: $ emerge --info Portage 2.2_rc12 (default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop, gcc-4.3.2, glibc-2.8_p20080602-r0, 2.6.27-gentoo-r1 x86_64)

Re: [gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Falko
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Paul Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always been curious about something in emerge --info's output: $ emerge --info Portage 2.2_rc12 (default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop, gcc-4.3.2, glibc-2.8_p20080602-r0, 2.6.27-gentoo-r1 x86_64)

Re: [gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Vul
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Andrey Falko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Paul Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always been curious about something in emerge --info's output: $ emerge --info Portage 2.2_rc12 (default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop,

Re: [gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info

2008-10-29 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Andrey Falko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Paul Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always been curious about something in emerge --info's output: $ emerge --info Portage 2.2_rc12 (default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop,

Re: [gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Falko
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Andrey Falko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Paul Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always been curious about something in emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to solve blockage when trying to install kde-meta-4.1.2

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Vul
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:14:34 -0400, Andrey Vul wrote: emerge -av1 udev I prefer emerge -1pv udev look at output emerge -1 udev Which means you have to wait for the dependency resolver to run twice. Which is why it's

Re: [gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Vul
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Andrey Falko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Andrey Falko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Paul Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Vul
Update: it has something to do with platform.platform() Now to search for platform by grepping all the .py files in /usr/lib. Hopefully this will take less time than emerge --regen. -- Andrey Vul A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a

Re: [gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Vul
Found the code, and it's actually part of python (as of 2.4). Gentoo sets aliased to 1 when printing the system uname. /usr/lib/python2.{4,5,6}/platform.py: def _platform(*args): Helper to format the platform string in a filename compatible format e.g. system-version-machine.

Re: [gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Vul
Good digging around :). So this is a python bug then? Or does portage need to be update for some change that went into python? Actually, is this really even a bug...its just a minor cosmetic problem really. One's bug is another's feature. libc in uname is honestly WTF but this begs the real

Re: [gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Falko
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good digging around :). So this is a python bug then? Or does portage need to be update for some change that went into python? Actually, is this really even a bug...its just a minor cosmetic problem really. One's

Re: [gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Vul
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Andrey Falko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good digging around :). So this is a python bug then? Or does portage need to be update for some change that went into python? Actually, is this

Re: [gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info

2008-10-29 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip elif system in ('Linux',): # Linux based systems distname,distversion,distid = dist('') if distname and not terse: platform = _platform(system,release,machine,processor,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dhcpd uses fake MAC address

2008-10-29 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip More sophisticated routers allow you to set up on their CLI static LAN IP addresses using the DUID string, instead of the client's MAC hardware address. Previous versions of dhcpcd had the vram USE flag which copied the

Re: [gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Vul
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Joshua Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip elif system in ('Linux',): # Linux based systems distname,distversion,distid = dist('') if distname and not terse:

Re: [gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Vul
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Joshua Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip elif system in ('Linux',): # Linux based systems distname,distversion,distid = dist('') if distname and not terse:

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to solve blockage when trying to install kde-meta-4.1.2

2008-10-29 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't like package managers which require interactivity. emerge -uvDp world | less is easier to parse then emerge -upDa world. Why? Because I don't have to find a way of transferring return if less handles all of the

Re: [gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info

2008-10-29 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good digging around :). So this is a python bug then? Or does portage need to be update for some change that went into python? Actually, is this really even a bug...its just a minor cosmetic problem really. One's bug is

Re: [gentoo-user] A question about emerge --info

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Vul
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Andrey Falko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good digging around :). So this is a python bug then? Or does portage need to be update for some change that went into python? Actually, is this

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to solve blockage when trying to install kde-meta-4.1.2

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Vul
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Joshua Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't like package managers which require interactivity. emerge -uvDp world | less is easier to parse then emerge -upDa world. Why? Because I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] broken ALSA

2008-10-29 Thread M. Sitorus
Hi Andrey, what do you mean by: Apparently asym needs to be the final token in ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS. I don't know why, but doing that made alsa work again (i.e. the ebuild recognized ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS contains asym). ? I have try to enable asym use flag, but alsa still not working. -- Salam, Marc

Re: [gentoo-user] broken ALSA

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Vul
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:05 PM, M. Sitorus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andrey, what do you mean by: Apparently asym needs to be the final token in ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS. I don't know why, but doing that made alsa work again (i.e. the ebuild recognized ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS contains asym). ? I have

Re: [gentoo-user] broken ALSA

2008-10-29 Thread M. Sitorus
asym should be the last flag? i don't know emerge read USE Flag by order. by the way, i usually only have dmix in ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS, and it's work. Only after i read your email i put asym on it. So, right know i have ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=asym dmix on make.conf. It's okay right? I don't need to put the

Re: [gentoo-user] broken ALSA

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Vul
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:53 PM, M. Sitorus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: asym should be the last flag? i don't know emerge read USE Flag by order. It's not supposed to. There's a bug in the ebuild or eclass and putting asym is the best workaround. by the way, i usually only have dmix in

Re: [gentoo-user] broken ALSA

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Vul
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:53 PM, M. Sitorus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: asym should be the last flag? i don't know emerge read USE Flag by order. by the way, i usually only have dmix in ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS, and it's work. Only after i read your email i put asym on it. So, right know i have

Re: [gentoo-user] hibernate fails, s2disk not found

2008-10-29 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:27:39PM +0100, Pint?r Tibor wrote [d530][root][~] emerge -pv s2disk These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies | emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy s2disk. Now what? emerge -pv suspend First, I had to keyword

Re: [gentoo-user] broken ALSA

2008-10-29 Thread M. Sitorus
pardon me? here is my error: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ mpg123 Padi-Sobat.mp3 High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layers 1, 2 and 3 version 0.65; written and copyright by Michael

Re: [gentoo-user] broken ALSA

2008-10-29 Thread Andrey Vul
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:26 AM, M. Sitorus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pardon me? here is my error: ALSA lib dlmisc.c:118:(snd_dlsym_verify) unable to verify version for symbol _snd_pcm_empty_open ALSA lib pcm.c:2148:(snd_pcm_open_conf) symbol _snd_pcm_empty_open is not defined inside

Re: [gentoo-user] blocks to fix

2008-10-29 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 08:49:13PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:00:41 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks all. I do need to be careful about this as the machine is 400 miles away and the user is completely unable to be of any help if it stops working meaning I have to