On Friday 26 December 2008, Grant wrote:
I have 3 Gentoo systems on a wireless network, one of which is the
firewall/router. Sometimes any traffic to one of the systems
effectively freezes traffic on the whole network. Does anyone know
what might cause that? It's tough to investigate
On Saturday 27 December 2008, Norberto Bensa wrote:
Quoting Mark Kirkwood mar...@paradise.net.nz:
Due to a new work situation where extensive use is made of Debian, I
feel the need to have a Debian-based play server. This unfortunately
means my trusty Gentoo box is to be sacrificed :-(
At
On Saturday 27 December 2008 11:29:08 Mick wrote:
On Friday 26 December 2008, Grant wrote:
I have 3 Gentoo systems on a wireless network, one of which is the
firewall/router. Sometimes any traffic to one of the systems
effectively freezes traffic on the whole network. Does anyone know
On Saturday 27 December 2008 01:19:11 Mark Kirkwood wrote:
Due to a new work situation where extensive use is made of Debian, I
feel the need to have a Debian-based play server. This unfortunately
means my trusty Gentoo box is to be sacrificed :-(
Thanks for the help I have received over the
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Saturday 27 December 2008 01:19:11 Mark Kirkwood wrote:
Due to a new work situation where extensive use is made of Debian, I
feel the need to have a Debian-based play server. This unfortunately
means my trusty Gentoo box is to be sacrificed :-(
Thanks for the help
Dale wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Saturday 27 December 2008 01:19:11 Mark Kirkwood wrote:
Due to a new work situation where extensive use is made of Debian, I
feel the need to have a Debian-based play server. This unfortunately
means my trusty Gentoo box is to be sacrificed :-(
Hi Daniel,
Try enabling or disabling USB_SUSPEND (Device Drivers-USB
support-USB selective suspend/resume and wakeup) in your kernel.
It was already enabled.
If that does not help, unloading the USB and wireless drivers before
suspend should do the trick.
I added this line to
I have 3 Gentoo systems on a wireless network, one of which is the
firewall/router. Sometimes any traffic to one of the systems
effectively freezes traffic on the whole network. Does anyone know
what might cause that? It's tough to investigate because it doesn't
happen all the time.
Not
Check /var/lib/portage/world_sets
That file doesn't exist on my system.
Which version of portage are you using? Sets are a feature of the
2.2 branch, as is the separate @system and 'world.
OK, I'm using portage-2.1.4.5. It's the latest amd64.
- Grant
There are quite a few overlays that offer helpful ebuilds. kde-testing
for example is one of them. However, I don't use it (and others)
because I can't find a way of stopping the hordes of chaos that appear
when doing emerge -u world. Is there really no way to somehow deal
with this? Right
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:30:56 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
There are quite a few overlays that offer helpful ebuilds. kde-testing
for example is one of them. However, I don't use it (and others)
because I can't find a way of stopping the hordes of chaos that appear
when doing emerge -u
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:30:56 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
There are quite a few overlays that offer helpful ebuilds. kde-testing
for example is one of them. However, I don't use it (and others)
because I can't find a way of stopping the hordes of chaos that appear
Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes:
Watch him slowly convert them over to Gentoo. o_O Then he'll be back
and asking who has a server like theirs. lol
Thats a FACT! Many workstation users never discover the joy
of running gentoo based servers. They are really easy to maintain.
If more
Grant emailgrant at gmail.com writes:
I have 3 Gentoo systems on a wireless network, one of which is the
firewall/router. Sometimes any traffic to one of the systems
effectively freezes traffic on the whole network. Does anyone know
what might cause that? It's tough to investigate because
James wrote:
Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes:
Watch him slowly convert them over to Gentoo. o_O Then he'll be back
and asking who has a server like theirs. lol
Thats a FACT! Many workstation users never discover the joy
of running gentoo based servers. They are really easy to
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:53:22 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
What I do when I want only one or two packages from an overlay is to
add that overlay with layman, but do not add it to make.conf. Then I
symlink the package directories I do want from the layman overlay
into my local overlay.
On Saturday December 27 2008 15:14:26 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
I run Debian on my server because it's set and forget. With Gentoo at
home, I have to take good care of it to keep it going.
Why? Does Gentoo forget how to do something? Why can't you just set and
forget your Gentoo boxes?
Norberto Bensa wrote:
On Saturday December 27 2008 15:14:26 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
I run Debian on my server because it's set and forget. With Gentoo at
home, I have to take good care of it to keep it going.
Why? Does Gentoo forget how to do something? Why can't you just set and
forget
On Saturday 27 December 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Norberto Bensa wrote:
Why? Does Gentoo forget how to do something? Why can't you just set and
forget your Gentoo boxes?
Gentoo is difficult to install.
Well, it's not really difficult - but it takes awfully longer than running a
On Saturday 27 December 2008, Grant wrote:
I have 3 Gentoo systems on a wireless network, one of which is the
firewall/router. Sometimes any traffic to one of the systems
effectively freezes traffic on the whole network. Does anyone know
what might cause that? It's tough to investigate
Mick wrote:
On Saturday 27 December 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Norberto Bensa wrote:
Why? Does Gentoo forget how to do something? Why can't you just set and
forget your Gentoo boxes?
Gentoo is difficult to install.
Well, it's not really difficult - but it takes awfully longer than
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On my Gentoo at home, yes. The mouse cursor skips, scrolling gets
skippy/laggy too. I have a dual core e6...@3.33ghz with 4GB DDR2 RAM.
I have to use version 2.6.23-gentoo-r8 for my kernel or it does the same
thing. Someone mentioned that it is a setting in the
Gregory Shearman schrieb:
Marc Blumentritt wrote:
I have since 2 months a problem with my boot up splash. Splash is
working, but the init messages (like starting daemon foh ... [ok]) are
written an screen above (for lack of a better word) my splash. When
the messages reach the bottom of the
Quoting Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de:
Why? Does Gentoo forget how to do something? Why can't you just
set and forget your Gentoo boxes?
Gentoo is difficult to install.
For who? And BTW, that doesn't answer the question.
Also, if it's left un-updated for
longer periods of time, it
Summary of request for help:
Are there hardcore kernel builders in the house who can steer me to
a faster way of figuring out what the installed modules do... for
sure.
Details:
I'm at a point where any pared down kernel config I've built and tried
has some terrible thing wrong with it.
Dale wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On my Gentoo at home, yes. The mouse cursor skips, scrolling gets
skippy/laggy too. I have a dual core e6...@3.33ghz with 4GB DDR2 RAM.
I have to use version 2.6.23-gentoo-r8 for my kernel or it does the same
thing. Someone mentioned that it is a
Quoting Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de:
On my Gentoo at home, yes. The mouse cursor skips, scrolling gets
skippy/laggy too. I have a dual core e6...@3.33ghz with 4GB DDR2 RAM.
Just like me, but I have it set to default clock: 2.4GHz. Beyond that,
it gets somewhat funny :-/
Are you
Norberto Bensa wrote:
Quoting Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de:
Why? Does Gentoo forget how to do something? Why can't you just set
and forget your Gentoo boxes?
Gentoo is difficult to install.
For who? And BTW, that doesn't answer the question.
Huh? I answered it right next in the
Norberto Bensa wrote:
Quoting Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de:
On my Gentoo at home, yes. The mouse cursor skips, scrolling gets
skippy/laggy too. I have a dual core e6...@3.33ghz with 4GB DDR2 RAM.
Just like me, but I have it set to default clock: 2.4GHz. Beyond that,
it gets somewhat
Harry Putnam wrote:
Summary of request for help:
Are there hardcore kernel builders in the house who can steer me to
a faster way of figuring out what the installed modules do... for
sure.
Well, my bit of wisdom here: Don't use modules. Do a make
menuconfig, disable everything you
Am Samstag, 27. Dezember 2008 15:11:34 schrieb Harry Putnam:
Summary of request for help:
Are there hardcore kernel builders in the house who can steer me to
a faster way of figuring out what the installed modules do... for
sure.
What could help you here is a make xconfig. It's similar
Am Samstag, 27. Dezember 2008 20:27:37 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
Harry Putnam wrote:
Summary of request for help:
Are there hardcore kernel builders in the house who can steer me to
a faster way of figuring out what the installed modules do... for
sure.
Well, my bit of wisdom
Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
Am Samstag, 27. Dezember 2008 20:27:37 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
Harry Putnam wrote:
Summary of request for help:
Are there hardcore kernel builders in the house who can steer me to
a faster way of figuring out what the installed modules do... for
sure.
Well, my
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de writes:
[...]
Well, my bit of wisdom here: Don't use modules. Do a make
menuconfig, disable everything you don't need, and compile
everything you need in-kernel instead of as a module.
I'd say the disable everything you don't need part is what Harry's
Harry Putnam wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de writes:
[...]
Well, my bit of wisdom here: Don't use modules. Do a make
menuconfig, disable everything you don't need, and compile
everything you need in-kernel instead of as a module.
I'd say the disable everything you don't need part is
I would suggest to follow the Gentoo handbook first.
Leave all options you are not sure as default, using lspci to find out
more about your hardware specifications.
From my experiences I will make sure that the kernel is bootable first
then adapt it to hardware later. Use modules or not is your
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de writes:
Harry Putnam wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de writes:
[...]
Well, my bit of wisdom here: Don't use modules. Do a make
menuconfig, disable everything you don't need, and compile
everything you need in-kernel instead of as a module.
I'd say
Hung Dang wrote:
I would suggest to follow the Gentoo handbook first.
Leave all options you are not sure as default, using lspci to find out
more about your hardware specifications.
From my experiences I will make sure that the kernel is bootable first
then adapt it to hardware later. Use
back in the day, this was why i went gentoo in the first place. i
needed a better scheduler and compiling a new kernel off red hat for
instance almost always broke other stuff.
gentoo made my life easier.
On 12 28, 08, at 7:32 AM, kashani wrote:
I'll second what Hung said, getting your
Hi there,
long ago i installed a 2.6.24 kernel in /usr/src manually. I had added the
line sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.24 (without quotes) to the file
/etc/portage/profile/package.provided. There is no kernel in
/var/lib/portage/world... This may be related to the fact i recently moved my
Simon wrote:
Hi there,
long ago i installed a 2.6.24 kernel in /usr/src manually. I had
added the
line sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.24 (without quotes) to the file
/etc/portage/profile/package.provided. There is no kernel in
/var/lib/portage/world... This may be related to the fact i
On Saturday 27 December 2008 10:48:19 am Harry Putnam wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de writes:
[...]
Well, my bit of wisdom here: Don't use modules. Do a make
menuconfig, disable everything you don't need, and compile
everything you need in-kernel instead of as a module.
Simon wrote:
Hi there,
long ago i installed a 2.6.24 kernel in /usr/src manually. I had
added the
line sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.24 (without quotes) to the file
/etc/portage/profile/package.provided. There is no kernel in
/var/lib/portage/world... This may be related to the fact i
You may also want to try lspci -v. It shows you what modules the
hardware uses and it should be able to boot with those at least. Example:
00:02.2 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev
a3) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
Subsystem: ABIT Computer Corp. Device 1c02
Harry Putnam wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de writes:
Harry Putnam wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de writes:
[...]
Well, my bit of wisdom here: Don't use modules. Do a make
menuconfig, disable everything you don't need, and compile
everything you need
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes:
You may also want to try lspci -v. It shows you what modules the
hardware uses and it should be able to boot with those at least. Example:
Well son-of-a-gun... that is nice. Thanks
Don't shoot. I ask here because I know some here are debian users.
I just created an vmware app with debian... I thought I was using the
newest install media for latest release (lenny I think).
But once installed (and this was a network install not from disc) I
find really ancient tools.. a
Debian's stable versions are somewhat, outdated. That explains the
kernel and emacs.
But, if you need to know the installed debian version, just $ cat
/etc/debian_version
If you need newer versions, use the testing/unstable repositories.
Other than that, this is not the list for such questions.
Harry Putnam wrote:
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes:
You may also want to try lspci -v. It shows you what modules the
hardware uses and it should be able to boot with those at least. Example:
Well son-of-a-gun... that is nice. Thanks
Yea, thanks to whoever mentioned it
Charles Welton rockyspirit2...@gmail.com writes:
Other than that, this is not the list for such questions.
Thanks... and right you are.
Harry Putnam wrote:
Charles Welton rockyspirit2...@gmail.com writes:
Other than that, this is not the list for such questions.
Thanks... and right you are.
I have asked windoze questions here before. It's not the end of the
world. If I didn't get a rope and a tree for
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On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
set PORTAGE_NICENESS=19 in /etc/make.conf
I'll just hay ah, ah, ah at that one :P OK, I'll also say that it
doesn't work. Everything lags even with 19.
Is that measurable?
On my Gentoo at home, yes. The mouse
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Simon wrote:
Hi there,
long ago i installed a 2.6.24 kernel in /usr/src manually. I had
added the
line sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.24 (without quotes) to the file
/etc/portage/profile/package.provided. There is no kernel in
/var/lib/portage/world... This may
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Gentoo is difficult to install. Also, if it's left un-updated for
longer periods of time, it tends to break on the next update. I guess
that's the downside of being versionless. Debian on the other hand, due
to it being versioned, doesn't have that problem.
When I
From:
Richard Cox conard...@gmail.com
To:
Roy Wright r...@wright.org
Date:
Today 01:08:51
Gentoo is difficult to install.
A highly subjective statement to be sure. Many thousands have successfully
installed it...depends on your definition of 'difficult' I suppose.
Also, if it's left
You're welcome. Bye.
On Friday 26 December 2008 18:19:11 Mark Kirkwood wrote:
Due to a new work situation where extensive use is made of Debian, I
feel the need to have a Debian-based play server. This unfortunately
means my trusty Gentoo box is to be sacrificed :-(
Thanks for the help I
On Saturday 27 December 2008 21:13:49 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Dale wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On my Gentoo at home, yes. The mouse cursor skips, scrolling gets
skippy/laggy too. I have a dual core e6...@3.33ghz with 4GB DDR2 RAM.
I have to use version 2.6.23-gentoo-r8 for my
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