Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Stroller
On 14 Oct 2009, at 21:34, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 14 October 2009 22:21:38 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: I remember standing in front of two Sun servers with 4gb each a couple of years ago. I was stuck in awe. So much ram. I have 3 of those monsters in my decommissioned stores tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread Stroller
On 14 Oct 2009, at 17:50, Denis wrote: ... While some folks here probably think this attempt foolish, I still think it was worth a try, and I learned some new things, which is always good. I don't think this attempt foolish - but I guess you're getting desperate. Having performed `emerge -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread Dale
Denis wrote: >> Have you tried "strace'ing" mathematica to see why it dies? >> >> BillK >> > > I ran an strace, but I can't make sense out of it. There's a bunch of > polling and trying to access unavailable resources, from what I can > see... The file is huge, but here is the tail end of it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread Denis
> Have you tried "strace'ing" mathematica to see why it dies? > > BillK I ran an strace, but I can't make sense out of it. There's a bunch of polling and trying to access unavailable resources, from what I can see... The file is huge, but here is the tail end of it:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread William Kenworthy
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 12:50 -0400, Denis wrote: > > Let us know what blows up. ;-) > > > > Dale > > Nothing blew up ;-) I was successful removing X, downgrading, and > getting X working again with xorg-server-1.5.3 and libxcb-1.1 > Have you tried "strace'ing" mathematica to see why it dies? B

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 14 October 2009 22:48:56 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:34:24 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Bring a 1 ton truck. Those beasts are big and heavy. Very heavy. It > > takes four of our big lads to pick them up. > > Why not put one behind that SUV the next time he parks i

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 14 October 2009 22:40:58 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Alan McKinnon schrieb: > > Bring a 1 ton truck. Those beasts are big and heavy. Very heavy. It takes > > four of our big lads to pick them up. > > It was a mixture of fascination and disappointment seeing those 2 "big" > servers a

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:34:24 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Bring a 1 ton truck. Those beasts are big and heavy. Very heavy. It > takes four of our big lads to pick them up. Why not put one behind that SUV the next time he parks in the disabled bay? ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Diarrhoea is hereditary

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: >> What for? Just to get back to the initial topic of the thread ;-) > > /var/tmp/portage > /tmp > > oh: > free > total used free sharedbuffers cached > Mem: 81858368108312 77524 0 06067212 >

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Alan McKinnon schrieb: > Bring a 1 ton truck. Those beasts are big and heavy. Very heavy. It takes > four > of our big lads to pick them up. It was a mixture of fascination and disappointment seeing those 2 "big" servers and the (entry-level ... ok)-SAN with just 4U in sum ... times are a-chan

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 14 Oktober 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 14 October 2009 22:21:38 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > I remember standing in front of two Sun servers with 4gb each a couple of > > years ago. > > I was stuck in awe. So much ram. > > I have 3 of those monsters in my decommissione

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 14 Oktober 2009, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: > > I remember standing in front of two Sun servers with 4gb each a couple of > > years ago. > > I was stuck in awe. So much ram. > > Yes. I remember as well. > > "Why 128 MB RAM in that workstation? Are you

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 14 October 2009 22:21:38 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > I remember standing in front of two Sun servers with 4gb each a couple of > years ago. > I was stuck in awe. So much ram. I have 3 of those monsters in my decommissioned stores that you are more than welcome to come and fetch t

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Alan McKinnon schrieb: > On Wednesday 14 October 2009 18:55:34 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> At least there I know how to make use of it ... > > At least this OT thread isn't as insanely OT as the checksum one :-) uuuh, I am OT ?? ;-) Haven't checked the checksum-thread, does it use RAM ?? ;-)

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: > I remember standing in front of two Sun servers with 4gb each a couple of > years ago. > I was stuck in awe. So much ram. Yes. I remember as well. "Why 128 MB RAM in that workstation? Are you sure we need that much? It costs!" > Today my desktop has 8gb - and I

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 14 Oktober 2009, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Dale schrieb: > > Does a Vic 20 count? It had 4K of ram. I bet KDE 4 would run fast on > > that. LOL > > > > At least it wasn't running winders. > > I remember upgrading my 8088 from 128 kB to 640 kB, it was about 50 EUR > (back then th

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 14 October 2009 18:55:34 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Dale schrieb: > > Does a Vic 20 count? It had 4K of ram. I bet KDE 4 would run fast on > > that. LOL > > > > At least it wasn't running winders. > > I remember upgrading my 8088 from 128 kB to 640 kB, it was about 50 EUR > (bac

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is a "packet"? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-14 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:42:17 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > >>> Tomorrow morning most of us will go back to trying to figure >>> out how to get x.org to work everywhere, either with or >>> without hal. >>> >> Which we also seem to do about once a month. ;)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X bitmap fonts and UTF-8

2009-10-14 Thread DPX-Infinity
No, they are entirely same. 2009/10/14 walt : > On 10/14/2009 12:17 PM, DPX-Infinity wrote: >> Here are mine: Installed versions:  4.28(23:40:35 09.10.2009)(X pcf >> psf ru-dv ru-g ru-i -a-like-o -bolddiag -quote -raw-font-data -ru-k >> -width) >> >> But I think USE-flags aren't connected with thi

[gentoo-user] Re: X bitmap fonts and UTF-8

2009-10-14 Thread walt
On 10/14/2009 12:17 PM, DPX-Infinity wrote: > Here are mine: Installed versions: 4.28(23:40:35 09.10.2009)(X pcf > psf ru-dv ru-g ru-i -a-like-o -bolddiag -quote -raw-font-data -ru-k > -width) > > But I think USE-flags aren't connected with this strange behaviour. I > already said, that russian l

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is a "packet"? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:42:17 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > Tomorrow morning most of us will go back to trying to figure > > out how to get x.org to work everywhere, either with or > > without hal. > > Which we also seem to do about once a month. ;) With less success :( -- Neil Bothw

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X bitmap fonts and UTF-8

2009-10-14 Thread DPX-Infinity
Here are mine: Installed versions: 4.28(23:40:35 09.10.2009)(X pcf psf ru-dv ru-g ru-i -a-like-o -bolddiag -quote -raw-font-data -ru-k -width) But I think USE-flags aren't connected with this strange behaviour. I already said, that russian letters are not displayed in every font, including misc-f

[gentoo-user] Re: X bitmap fonts and UTF-8

2009-10-14 Thread walt
On 10/14/2009 07:00 AM, DPX-Infinity wrote: > Hi. > I have some strange problem with X fonts (not freetype). I installed > xmonad, dzen2 and dmenu and configured the last two to use font > -xos4-terminus-medium... If that font is part of the terminus-font package, there are quite a few USE flags t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread Dale
Denis wrote: >> Let us know what blows up. ;-) >> >> Dale >> > > Nothing blew up ;-) I was successful removing X, downgrading, and > getting X working again with xorg-server-1.5.3 and libxcb-1.1 > > FYI, the working package.mask file for this operation is: > > >> =x11-libs/libXext-1.0.5 >

Re: [gentoo-user] ftp user, local user, apache group

2009-10-14 Thread laurent
Frank Steinmetzger a écrit : Am Freitag, 9. Oktober 2009 schrieb laurent: Hi, Now I've setup vsftpd with local user. For exemple I log with the user laurent, I create a folder via ftp. This folder is own by laurent, so it's not exessible via apache. How could I make that, like put laurent i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X bitmap fonts and UTF-8

2009-10-14 Thread DPX-Infinity
Yes, of course. There are unicode and utf8 in make.conf and UNICODE="yes" in rc.conf. 2009/10/14 walt : > On 10/14/2009 07:00 AM, DPX-Infinity wrote: >> Hi. >> I have some strange problem with X fonts (not freetype). I installed >> xmonad, dzen2 and dmenu and configured the last two to use font >>

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Dale schrieb: > Does a Vic 20 count? It had 4K of ram. I bet KDE 4 would run fast on > that. LOL > > At least it wasn't running winders. I remember upgrading my 8088 from 128 kB to 640 kB, it was about 50 EUR (back then there was no EUR, sure) .. I feel kinda old thinking of this ;-) And t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread Denis
> Let us know what blows up.  ;-) > > Dale Nothing blew up ;-) I was successful removing X, downgrading, and getting X working again with xorg-server-1.5.3 and libxcb-1.1 FYI, the working package.mask file for this operation is: >=x11-libs/libXext-1.0.5 >=x11-libs/libX11-1.2 >=x11-libs/libxcb-1

[gentoo-user] Re: X bitmap fonts and UTF-8

2009-10-14 Thread walt
On 10/14/2009 07:00 AM, DPX-Infinity wrote: > Hi. > I have some strange problem with X fonts (not freetype). I installed > xmonad, dzen2 and dmenu and configured the last two to use font > -xos4-terminus-medium-*-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1 (but I have this > problem in other fonts too) because I n

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Dale
KH wrote: > pk schrieb: >> Dale wrote: >> >>> I think mine has a 3Gb limit too. I have two installed tho. It works >>> well for me. >> >> I think someone (in?)famous said: "640K is more memory than anyone will >> ever need..." ;-) >> >> Best regards >> >> Peter K >> > > Hi, > > my first Mac had 2

Re: [gentoo-user] qt-dbus blocker--SOLVED

2009-10-14 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:13:59 -0400 Allan Gottlieb wrote: > At Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:02:25 +0200 Alan McKinnon > wrote: > >> qt*-4.5.1 blocks qt*-4.5.2. It's not a simple single package that you >> upgrade, >> it's multiple packages and throughout the build you will have incompatible >> package

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread KH
pk schrieb: Dale wrote: I think mine has a 3Gb limit too. I have two installed tho. It works well for me. I think someone (in?)famous said: "640K is more memory than anyone will ever need..." ;-) Best regards Peter K Hi, my first Mac had 256kb. I upgraded it to 1mb because kit had one

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a "packet"? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-14 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 12 October 2009 21:13:26 I wrote: > Even allowing for the smiley, this isn't true. English makes perfect sense > to me. Since then my ISP's been playing silly beggars and cocked up my mail delivery so that I received nothing at all. It's fixed now but anything sent to the list meanwhi

Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax for masking kde:4?

2009-10-14 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 14 October 2009 13:38:53 Neil Bothwick wrote: > grep ^kde-base /var/lib/portage/world | sed s/$/:4/ > >/etc/portage/package.mask/kde4 That's neat. Thanks - though it misses anything pulled in by world entries. Meanwhile I've captured the file that Jonathan mentioned - and I've alrea

[gentoo-user] X bitmap fonts and UTF-8

2009-10-14 Thread DPX-Infinity
Hi. I have some strange problem with X fonts (not freetype). I installed xmonad, dzen2 and dmenu and configured the last two to use font -xos4-terminus-medium-*-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1 (but I have this problem in other fonts too) because I need the unicode for correct display of russian letters

Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax for masking kde:4?

2009-10-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:30:06 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > In the last few days some parts of KDE v4 seem to have been moved into > the stable tree, but on some of my boxes I want to exclude kde:4 (but > not qt:4). > > What is the syntax for a single entry in package.mask to exclude the > whole

Re: [gentoo-user] Migration to baselayout2 / openrc

2009-10-14 Thread daid kahl
> > Hi, > >  for this weekend I planned to migrate to baselayout 2 >  finally. > >  On gentoo web I found this: 2. >  Migration to OpenRC >  Migration to OpenRC is fairly straightforward; it will be pulled in >  as part of your regular upgrade process by your package manager. > >  I tried to check

Re: [gentoo-user] Syntax for masking kde:4?

2009-10-14 Thread daid kahl
> What is the syntax for a single entry in package.mask to exclude the whole of > kde:4? I did start masking each package separately, but that's far too much > work - I'd finish up with an entry for every kde package that has a version > 4. Also, "kde:4", which seems like the right thing to specify

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootup drops back to console from kdm

2009-10-14 Thread daid kahl
>> > It must be a year or so now with all different kernels.  On boot up kdm >> > fires >> > up, but within 5 seconds or so and while the use is busy entering their >> > passwd on the kdm screen, it suddenly returns to the console.  Alt+F7 >> > brings them back to their kdm, but this behaviour is c

Re: [gentoo-user] Formating a USB stick

2009-10-14 Thread daid kahl
> Who mentioned data loss? Formatting in Windows reduces the risk of > Windows complaining about the format. It may not be standards-compliant, > but at least is is consistently broken. Sorry I'm a bit late on this, but just a note, in fstab, you should use the option iocharset=utf8, otherwise it'

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 14 October 2009 13:31:09 pk wrote: > Dale wrote: > > I think mine has a 3Gb limit too. I have two installed tho. It works > > well for me. > > I think someone (in?)famous said: "640K is more memory than anyone will > ever need..." ;-) Well, it wasn't Bill Gates (just in case that'

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread pk
Dale wrote: > I think mine has a 3Gb limit too. I have two installed tho. It works > well for me. I think someone (in?)famous said: "640K is more memory than anyone will ever need..." ;-) Best regards Peter K

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge with a fetch restricted (must be manually downloaded)

2009-10-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 14 Oktober 2009, dhk wrote: > Can someone explain the procedure for the installing software that has a > fetch restriction? > > Whenever I get the "F" for fetch restricted (must be manually > downloaded) I can't get the build right. Usually I have to go to a > web-site and then after

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge with a fetch restricted (must be manually downloaded)

2009-10-14 Thread Dale
dhk wrote: > Can someone explain the procedure for the installing software that has a > fetch restriction? > > Whenever I get the "F" for fetch restricted (must be manually > downloaded) I can't get the build right. Usually I have to go to a > web-site and then after downloading what is needed I g

[gentoo-user] emerge with a fetch restricted (must be manually downloaded)

2009-10-14 Thread dhk
Can someone explain the procedure for the installing software that has a fetch restriction? Whenever I get the "F" for fetch restricted (must be manually downloaded) I can't get the build right. Usually I have to go to a web-site and then after downloading what is needed I get stuck. Basically I

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Dale
KH wrote: > Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: > [snip] >> >> As I see I am not even able to use much RAM with several (vmware-)VMs >> running, so the 8 gigs will maybe stay some number to impress *some* >> people with (until everyone gets 8 gigs into their supermarket-PCs). >> >> Anyway. >> Stefan >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
KH schrieb: > Hi, > > my motherboard cannot go above 3gigs so I am very impressed ;-) Wow, at last one ;-) S

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread KH
Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: [snip] As I see I am not even able to use much RAM with several (vmware-)VMs running, so the 8 gigs will maybe stay some number to impress *some* people with (until everyone gets 8 gigs into their supermarket-PCs). Anyway. Stefan Hi, my motherboard cannot go ab

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-14 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 13 October 2009 21:04:54 Denis wrote: > >> Perhaps I should try this procedure on my home gentoo box first. >> >> Here are my USE flags: >> >> X aac aim alsa ao bash-completion bdf branding bzip2 cairo cdda cddb >> cdparanoia cdr cpudetection djvu emac

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem with gethostname() returning incorrect value

2009-10-14 Thread Lie Ryan
Lie Ryan wrote: > [1] for some reason, after setting HOSTNAME to localhost I can't start > new GUI program/create new window after NetworkManager/nm-applet is > running. I suspect there is some NetworkManager settings lying around > somewhere that resets the name to lieryan and the change confused

Re: how to force libxcb version below 1.4 when re-installing X (was: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?)

2009-10-14 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 14 Oct, Denis wrote: . > proprietary software I am currently running. I would much rather > upgrade Mathematica, but that is not an option for me at this time. > Thankfully, I was able to remove X and reinstall it based on the > previous versions of the libraries I don't yet know wheth

Re: [gentoo-user] how to use RAM

2009-10-14 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Joshua Murphy schrieb: > Yep! sys-apps/preload goes a long way to automate what I did with > busybox's readahead tool, and I'm about 99% certain they both make the > same system call to do the work anyways... it's all a matter of how & > where they get their list of *what* to fetch... I, as I said