Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild + minimal output

2010-07-10 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 06:52:35AM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 is there an option to revdep-rebuild to only do output if it has 
 something to rebuild ? This should be run via cron to notify me
 via email.

Usually is there an option... questions are well-answered by man
program name. And in this case the closest thing from the man page
is the -q option, which doesn't do exactly what you want. 

Cheers, 

W
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade

2010-07-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:02:23 -0500, Dale wrote:

  assuming this all goes without trouble (will take a while), should I
  unmerge version 4.3.4?  
 
  There's no reason to.  Unless you don't need it anymore.
   
 
 Or he doesn't like cruft or needs the drive space.
 
 Is rebuilding the whole system needed for that upgrade tho?

Only if you want to remove the old version, if only to ensure that
everything builds with 4.4. Every time I remove 4.3, I find myself
re-emerging it because some odd package won't build with 4.4, so I ended
up leaving it there.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Update single packages w/o dependencies

2010-07-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 06:51:30 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

 is there an emerge option for building just a single package w/o 
 its dependencies (if deps are required, it should fail) ?

Yes, and it is clearly documented in the emerge man page, along with
several other useful options.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade

2010-07-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 10 July 2010 02:57:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 On 07/10/2010 04:16 AM, Valmor de Almeida wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I just updated the portage tree and gcc was upgraded. I have set gcc to
  the newer version
  
  -  gcc-config -l
  
[1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.4
[2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.4.3 *
  
  and I am trying to rebuild the whole system with
  
emerge -e system
emerge -e world
  
  assuming this all goes without trouble (will take a while), should I
  unmerge version 4.3.4?
 
 There's no reason to.  Unless you don't need it anymore.

And why is the OP rebuilding world at all? There's no reason to do that 
either, there's no API/ABI break between 4.3.4 and 4.3.3

Unless he's the kind of guy who likes to rip his Ferrari apart for kicks and 
put it all back together again so that not even the factory can notice...


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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild + minimal output

2010-07-10 Thread YoYo Siska
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 05:11:49AM -0400, Willie Wong wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 06:52:35AM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
  is there an option to revdep-rebuild to only do output if it has 
  something to rebuild ? This should be run via cron to notify me
  via email.
 
 Usually is there an option... questions are well-answered by man
 program name. And in this case the closest thing from the man page
 is the -q option, which doesn't do exactly what you want. 
 
 Cheers, 

revdep-rebuild --help
...
 -p, --pretendDo a trial run without actually emerging anything
   (also passed to emerge command)


it would basically show you what would be emerged...
-q and -P might be usefull to get rid of unwated output...

yoyo





Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-10 Thread luis jure
on 2010-07-06 at 13:14 Alan McKinnon wrote:

The football competition where england, france and italy all got their
asses handed to them recently :-)

not to mention argentina and brazil... did you notice the tiny uy in my
e-mail address? :-) :-) 

(it's a real pity i don't give a sh*t about football, i could be enjoying
this immensely)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade

2010-07-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
 Unless he's the kind of guy who likes to rip his Ferrari apart for kicks and
 put it all back together again so that not even the factory can notice...

Precisely... :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade

2010-07-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 SNIP
 Unless he's the kind of guy who likes to rip his Ferrari apart for kicks and
 put it all back together again so that not even the factory can notice...

 Precisely... :-)


Oh, and besides liking the smell of fresh baked 1 and 0's in the
morning emerge -e @world was an easy  way to solve my libpng problem.
Woke up this morning to a freshly baked Gentoo machine.

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot upgrade kde-base/superkaramba

2010-07-10 Thread Arttu V.
On 7/9/10, Matthias Fechner ide...@fechner.net wrote:
 Hi,

 I tried the last days to do a
 emerge -avuDN world

 but it fails at the package
 kde-base/superkaramba-4.4.4

 I get the error message:
 Linking CXX shared library ../../lib/libsuperkaramba.so
 CMakeFiles/superkaramba.dir/python/meter.o: In function
 `QString2PyString(QString)':
 meter.cpp:(.text+0x6e): undefined reference to `PyUnicodeUCS4_FromUnicode'
 CMakeFiles/superkaramba.dir/python/meter.o: In function
 `PyString2QString(_object*)':
 meter.cpp:(.text+0x1bf): undefined reference to `PyUnicodeUCS4_AsUnicode'
 /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld:
 warning: creating a DT_TEXTREL in object.
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 make[2]: *** [lib/libsuperkaramba.so.4.4.0] Error 1

 I already tried to rebuild all depending libs starting from python to
 kdelibs but it does not help.

 Has maybe anyone here an idea what the problem could be?

Wild guess: you might have a python version installed which is not
compiled with the wide-unicode support. I'm not sure what all will be
broken by such a situation, but following might help:

qlist -CLIS dev-lang/python | xargs -r emerge -1
python-updater
emerge -1 PyQt4  # unless python-updater took care of it, I don't know
it if will

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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild + minimal output

2010-07-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 06:52:35 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

 is there an option to revdep-rebuild to only do output if it has 
 something to rebuild ? This should be run via cron to notify me
 via email.
 
There is the --quiet option, but this doesn't remove everything. You
could try redirecting stderr and stdout to see what goes where, or just
pipe the output through sed.


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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild + minimal output

2010-07-10 Thread Blackdream W
revdep-rebuild -pv

2010/7/10 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk

 On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 06:52:35 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

  is there an option to revdep-rebuild to only do output if it has
  something to rebuild ? This should be run via cron to notify me
  via email.

 There is the --quiet option, but this doesn't remove everything. You
 could try redirecting stderr and stdout to see what goes where, or just
 pipe the output through sed.


 --
 Neil Bothwick

 Hm..what's this red button fo|'» .'NO CARRIER



Re: [gentoo-user] Update single packages w/o dependencies

2010-07-10 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 
 is there an emerge option for building just a single package w/o
 its dependencies (if deps are required, it should fail) ?
 
 I'd like to set up an automatic update for certain packages,
 but w/o touching all the rest not explicitly given.
 
 
 cu

 
 I found this in the emerge man page:
 
--nodeps (-O)
   Merges  specified  packages  without merging any 
 dependencies.  Note that the build may fail if the
   dependencies aren't satisfied.
 
 
 Is that what you are looking for?

yep. thanks :)


cu
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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild + minimal output

2010-07-10 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 06:52:35 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 
  is there an option to revdep-rebuild to only do output if it has 
  something to rebuild ? This should be run via cron to notify me
  via email.
  
 There is the --quiet option, but this doesn't remove everything. You
 could try redirecting stderr and stdout to see what goes where, or just
 pipe the output through sed.

Right, -q still gives too much output :(
I'd prefer letting portage do everything, instead of maintaining
an additional wrapper ;-o


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade

2010-07-10 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh, and besides liking the smell of fresh baked 1 and 0's in the
 morning emerge -e @world was an easy  way to solve my libpng problem.
 Woke up this morning to a freshly baked Gentoo machine.

Now we just need support for emerging fresh and hot coffee ;-)

BTW: regularily emerging world could be a fine testbed.
Maybe I'll set up an chroot or container for that on some 
idling boxes ...


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[gentoo-user] Bug about possibly incomplete bugfix

2010-07-10 Thread Nuno J. Silva
(I asked this on IRC more than an hour ago, got no reply, so here goes
it to the list.)

What's the policy when you think that a change made due to a FIXED bug
needs more changes? Should you just comment it, fill another bug or
change the state (I can't do the later, anyway)?

As an example (the one I am dealing with, bug 283744), I found out a
package was changed to add a behavior which wasn't documented in the
ebuild.

On one hand, the suggestion to add elog messages should belong to the
original bug (now RESOLVED FIXED).

But on the other hand this is a new problem introduced by the fix for
that first bug, and then should have its own request. 

(And, as I can't change the first bug - which is FIXED, a separate bug
would be initially marked as OPEN, which suits the case of a new, IMHO
still unsolved issue.)

But what's the most polite thing to do?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bug about possibly incomplete bugfix

2010-07-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 10 July 2010 19:21:28 Nuno J. Silva wrote:
 (I asked this on IRC more than an hour ago, got no reply, so here goes
 it to the list.)
 
 What's the policy when you think that a change made due to a FIXED bug
 needs more changes? Should you just comment it, fill another bug or
 change the state (I can't do the later, anyway)?
 
 As an example (the one I am dealing with, bug 283744), I found out a
 package was changed to add a behavior which wasn't documented in the
 ebuild.
 
 On one hand, the suggestion to add elog messages should belong to the
 original bug (now RESOLVED FIXED).
 
 But on the other hand this is a new problem introduced by the fix for
 that first bug, and then should have its own request.
 
 (And, as I can't change the first bug - which is FIXED, a separate bug
 would be initially marked as OPEN, which suits the case of a new, IMHO
 still unsolved issue.)
 
 But what's the most polite thing to do?


Open a new bug and refer to the old one. Let the bug owner decide what's the 
best thing to do next.



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[gentoo-user] Re: udev boot errors - unable to access device

2010-07-10 Thread walt
On 07/08/2010 07:28 AM, Mick wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I updated sys-fs/udev-149 yesterday and noticed some uevent errors
 during boot today.  They went by too fast for me to catch them, but
 they said something about udevent:  unable to access device/000/000
 . mouse and another about event9.
 
 Do I ignore, delete permanent udev rules, or do some particular
 incantation to fix this?

If you reboot again, are the errors still there?  If not, I'd say
forget about it.  If the errors recur you could try playing with
udevadm, e.g. udevadm info --export-db and look for anything odd.