[gentoo-user] emerge fails

2010-09-06 Thread András Csányi
Hi all, I want to rebuild my system and I need packages, so I always use this way to avoid unnecessary compiling (before I start rebuild I always delete all of packages). But, now I got this: sayusi-home sayusi # emerge -eavkt --deep --newuse --update world * IMPORTANT: 1 news items need readin

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 06:27 on Tuesday 07 September 2010, kashani did opine thusly: > On 9/6/2010 4:55 PM, Al wrote: > > Well that is the first advantage of a newsreader. It does not spam > > your mailbox. You select yourself what you want to read by the header. > > The other contents a

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread kashani
On 9/6/2010 4:55 PM, Al wrote: Well that is the first advantage of a newsreader. It does not spam your mailbox. You select yourself what you want to read by the header. The other contents are never delivered to you, eat up neither traffic nor space. People don't really need to complain of to much

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al wrote: > >> I was trying to figure this out myself. I thought maybe I was missing > >> something in the message. Maybe not. > > > > Isn't the list aggregated into that news site gmain or whatever its > > called? > > Then he can have it as a newsgroup. > > It's n

Re: [gentoo-user] Wine complains about Gecko

2010-09-06 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: When I try to launch a Windows program in Wine (1.3.2), an error dialog appears informing me that Gecko is not installed and the program might not work (which it doesn't). It has an "install" button there, but mentions that it would be better if th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Al wrote: No, I am comming from a Debian/Ubuntu background where it simply worked. Same mechanism there too - Debian/Ubuntu also use /etc/ld.so.conf and/or /etc/ld.so.conf.d. You dont see it because you only deal with binary packages when updating in Debian/Ubuntu. Now

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to configure alsa for INTEL HDA (ATI)

2010-09-06 Thread Adam Carter
Perhaps; 1. Boot with knoppix 2. record lsmod output 3. Boot back into gentoo, go to kernel setup and select any missing modules, them make modules_install, and modprobe the modules (no need to reboot) 4. Try alsa again to see if anything has turned up? FWIW on my laptop; sphinx adam # lspci | gre

[gentoo-user] strange network problem

2010-09-06 Thread
Hi ,everybody I've met a strang network problem.My gentoo Netbook can't access google and some other web sites after lying idle about more than half an hour's. But it can acesses other sites normally ,And can pinging ervery sites including google very well! The Only thing i can do i

[gentoo-user] Wine complains about Gecko

2010-09-06 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
When I try to launch a Windows program in Wine (1.3.2), an error dialog appears informing me that Gecko is not installed and the program might not work (which it doesn't). It has an "install" button there, but mentions that it would be better if the distro, Gentoo in this case, would offer it

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: advice sought on new laptop for Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-09-06, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > Grant Edwards writes: > >> For a given height, a 16:9 display is 30% wider. I want nice tall >> display (prefereably at least 9-10") without having to increase the >> width beyond what a standard "laptop" style keyboard takes up (about >> 12-13 inches). > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread Jake Moe
On 07/09/10 09:55, Al wrote: > Jake > > it is a pity when well working systems are replaced by systems that > are less good. But the high cultures of the ancient world also have > been replaced by dark medieval times and italien restaurants are > beeing replaced by burger burners (here in Europe)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Al
>> Now I was woundering, which way would Gentoo choose or if that is not >> package specific at all. Are you sure dlopen() is used as a general >> approach on Gentoo? > > Gentoo doesn't choose anything; it's up to the programs to decide how they > want to load libraries at runtime.  It's like askin

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Al
> > Are you coming from a BSD background?  I know NetBSD uses rpath everywhere, > and > they don't use the ld.so.conf mechanism at all, but I can't recall if the > others > do or don't. No, I am comming from a Debian/Ubuntu background where it simply worked. Now I try to port Gentoo to Cygwin and

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread David W Noon
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:10:02 +0200, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant: >Dale wrote: > >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> > wtf are you talking about? >> > >> > and who is using news anyway? >> > >> > >> > >> >> I was trying to figure this

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread Al
>> >> I was trying to figure this out myself.  I thought maybe I was missing >> something in the message.  Maybe not. > Isn't the list aggregated into that news site gmain or whatever its > called? > Then he can have it as a newsgroup. > It's not the question how I read it, but a question how a ma

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread Al
Jake it is a pity when well working systems are replaced by systems that are less good. But the high cultures of the ancient world also have been replaced by dark medieval times and italien restaurants are beeing replaced by burger burners (here in Europe). > Why say that "lists are dead early"?

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 08:42:40 +1000 Jake Moe wrote: > Everyone's got their preference; some like mailing lists and come here. > Others like forums and go there. Still others prefer IRC. > > Also, a quick Google search of "gentoo newsgroup" showed me > alt.os.linux.gentoo, and that it's been pos

Re: [gentoo-user] How to fix circular dependency?

2010-09-06 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Mon, 6 Sep 2010, Alex Schuster wrote: What Dale meant is to try installling sys-libs/glibc-2.10.1-r1. I have not checked the depencencies, but the idea is that this version of glibc does not depend on the new gcc, which would pull in the new glibc. So try this: emerge -1a =sys-libs/glibc-2.1

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread covici
Dale wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > wtf are you talking about? > > > > and who is using news anyway? > > > > > > > > I was trying to figure this out myself. I thought maybe I was missing > something in the message. Maybe not. Isn't the list aggregated into that news site gmain or

[gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/07/2010 12:24 AM, Al wrote: How does a program in Gentoo know, where to look for shared libraries? The program doesn't know. But the runtime linker does. And those paths are in /etc/ld.so.conf. This file gets updated automatically by portage when needed. But... sometimes the program a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: advice sought on new laptop for Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Allan Gottlieb
Grant Edwards writes: > For a given height, a 16:9 display is 30% wider. I want nice tall > display (prefereably at least 9-10") without having to increase the > width beyond what a standard "laptop" style keyboard takes up (about > 12-13 inches). It is certainly true that, if the height of the

[gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread walt
On 09/06/2010 11:28 AM, Al wrote: Hello, I looked into many ebuilds, but didn't come to a final conclusion yet. I am rather confused. Welcome ;) How does a program in Gentoo know, where to look for shared libraries? Try running "ldconfig -p", which relates to Nikos's comment about ld.so.co

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread Jake Moe
On 07/09/10 06:19, Al wrote: > Hi, > > being comparingly new to Gentoo I still wounder why the classical > heart of every open source community is missing, a public news server. > At least a news server is not offically announced on > http://www.gentoo.org/ like forums, IRC and mailinglists. (I ca

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: wtf are you talking about? and who is using news anyway? I was trying to figure this out myself. I thought maybe I was missing something in the message. Maybe not. Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to configure alsa for INTEL HDA (ATI)

2010-09-06 Thread Jake Moe
On 07/09/10 01:44, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Alan McKinnon [10-09-06 17:10]: >> Apparently, though unproven, at 14:33 on Monday 06 September 2010, Nils >> Larsson did opine thusly: >> I did an alsaconf- and update-modules-reboot-cycle, but the only thing I get with alsamixer are fou

[gentoo-user] [OT] ProFTPd problem with anonymous access

2010-09-06 Thread Jake Moe
Hello all, I'm hoping someone on the list can help me out with a problem I'm having (or at least point me in the direction of a RTFM). I've got my laptop set up as a local rsync and source mirror for a PC at work and another laptop at home. The laptop has /usr/portage shared anonymously, so wha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: advice sought on new laptop for Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Mick
On Monday 06 September 2010 17:24:45 Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2010-09-06, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Yes, there is an inherent problem: in order to get what I consider > >> acceptable vertical size/resolution you have to buy something that's > >> rediculously wide. > > > > Untrue. > > > > Vertic

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 06 September 2010, Al wrote: > Hi, > > being comparingly new to Gentoo I still wounder why the classical > heart of every open source community is missing, a public news server. > At least a news server is not offically announced on > http://www.gentoo.org/ like forums, IRC and mailingli

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Al
> Also I installed a few libries with Prefix Gentoo on Cygwin. On Cygwin > there is no /etc/ld.so.conf. Yet the libraries are found somehow. I > still have to find out how it works in that environment. Ah! Your manpage answers this question: "The directories /lib and /usr/lib are searched" as last

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Al
>> How does a program in Gentoo know, where to look for shared libraries? > > The program doesn't know.  But the runtime linker does.  And those paths are > in /etc/ld.so.conf.  This file gets updated automatically by portage when > needed. > > But... sometimes the program also knows and can link a

Re: [gentoo-user] How to fix circular dependency?

2010-09-06 Thread Alex Schuster
Ajai Khattri writes: > On Sun, 5 Sep 2010, Dale wrote: > > Try this: > > > > emerge -1av =*glibc*-2.10.1-r1 > > # emerge -1av =*glibc*-2.10.1-r1 > > * IMPORTANT: 1 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'. > * Use eselect news to read news items. > > > These are the packages that w

Re: [gentoo-user] How to fix circular dependency?

2010-09-06 Thread Ajai Khattri
On Sun, 5 Sep 2010, Dale wrote: Try this: emerge -1av =*glibc*-2.10.1-r1 # emerge -1av =*glibc*-2.10.1-r1 * IMPORTANT: 1 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'. * Use eselect news to read news items. These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencie

Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird and IMAP folders

2010-09-06 Thread kashani
On 9/2/2010 12:43 PM, Jim Cunning wrote: On 09/01/2010 10:44 AM, Andrea Conti wrote: Hi, I routinely use thunderbird to access mail on a cyrus IMAP server with very large folders (thousands of archived messages). IMAP support in the 3.1 series seems quite stable to me (whereas 2.x had frequent

[gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/06/2010 09:28 PM, Al wrote: Hello, I looked into many ebuilds, but didn't come to a final conclusion yet. I am rather confused. How does a program in Gentoo know, where to look for shared libraries? The program doesn't know. But the runtime linker does. And those paths are in /etc/ld

[gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-06 Thread Al
Hi, being comparingly new to Gentoo I still wounder why the classical heart of every open source community is missing, a public news server. At least a news server is not offically announced on http://www.gentoo.org/ like forums, IRC and mailinglists. (I can read some, not all of the lists via inf

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo 32bit->64bit: How?

2010-09-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:27 AM, wrote: > Hi, > > My box is a working and fully configured Gentoo system, which is > uptodate. > > For the sake of being able to address more RAM and for more > calculation power (mainly for rendering purposes) I want to > migrate to 64bit. > > I googled for some t

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo 32bit->64bit: How?

2010-09-06 Thread Jason Carson
Check out this, it should answer most of your questions... http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-amd64-faq.xml#perfup > Hi, > > My box is a working and fully configured Gentoo system, which is > uptodate. > > For the sake of being able to address more RAM and for more > calculation power (mainly fo

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo 32bit->64bit: How?

2010-09-06 Thread Norman Rieß
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 06.09.2010 19:27, schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: > Hi, > > My questions are: > 1) Is there a performance gain, when migrating to 64bit if the >target applications supports 64bit? > 2) Is it possible - if( true ){ how(); } - to """simply""" >

[gentoo-user] Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Al
Hello, I looked into many ebuilds, but didn't come to a final conclusion yet. I am rather confused. How does a program in Gentoo know, where to look for shared libraries? Is this compiled into the programes by means of rpath? Does Gentoo set up a general search path for libraries? Does this ra

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo 32bit->64bit: How?

2010-09-06 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 06.09.2010 19:27, schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: > Hi, > > My box is a working and fully configured Gentoo system, which is > uptodate. > > For the sake of being able to address more RAM and for more > calculation power (mainly for rendering purposes) I want to > migrate to 64bit. > > I googled

[gentoo-user] virt-manager: Warning: KVM is not available

2010-09-06 Thread Alexander Tiurin
Hi! I start virt-manager-0.8.5, create a new virtual machine and get a message "Warning: KVM is not available" Why? Thanks. Some details: lsmod | grep kvm kvm_intel 35560 0 kvm 207681 1 kvm_intel getfacl /dev/kvm getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolu

[gentoo-user] Gentoo 32bit->64bit: How?

2010-09-06 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, My box is a working and fully configured Gentoo system, which is uptodate. For the sake of being able to address more RAM and for more calculation power (mainly for rendering purposes) I want to migrate to 64bit. I googled for some tutorial but found nothing appropiate (one post asked for th

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: advice sought on new laptop for Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-09-06, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Yes, there is an inherent problem: in order to get what I consider >> acceptable vertical size/resolution you have to buy something that's >> rediculously wide. > > Untrue. > > Vertical resolution depends only on the available dimension and the > number of p

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to configure alsa for INTEL HDA (ATI)

2010-09-06 Thread meino . cramer
Alan McKinnon [10-09-06 17:10]: > Apparently, though unproven, at 14:33 on Monday 06 September 2010, Nils > Larsson did opine thusly: > > > > I did an alsaconf- and update-modules-reboot-cycle, but the only thing > > > I get with alsamixer are four bars: > > > master,pcm,capture,digital > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-06 Thread alain . didierjean
Selon alain.didierj...@free.fr: > Selon Stroller : > > > > > On 6 Sep 2010, at 09:55, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > > > > > > > > For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as such > > > by udev: > > > I can mount /dev/hda and read a data CD, ... > > > > Current kernels usually

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-06 Thread alain . didierjean
Selon Stroller : > > On 6 Sep 2010, at 09:55, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > > > > > For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as such > > by udev: > > I can mount /dev/hda and read a data CD, ... > > Current kernels usually call optical drives /dev/sr0 (/dev/sr1, &c). > There

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-06 Thread alain . didierjean
Selon Stroller : > > On 6 Sep 2010, at 09:55, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > > > > > For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as such > > by udev: > > I can mount /dev/hda and read a data CD, ... > > Current kernels usually call optical drives /dev/sr0 (/dev/sr1, &c). > There

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-06 Thread alain . didierjean
Selon Stroller : > > On 6 Sep 2010, at 09:55, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > > > > > For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as such > > by udev: > > I can mount /dev/hda and read a data CD, ... > > Current kernels usually call optical drives /dev/sr0 (/dev/sr1, &c). > There

Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED: problem with PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILURI

2010-09-06 Thread David Relson
On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:32:16 +0100 Stroller wrote: > > On 5 Sep 2010, at 17:54, David Relson wrote: > >> ... > > I've got it without that, Portage 2.1.8.3. > > > > $ grep ELOG /etc/make.conf > > PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES="warn error log" > > PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="save mail" > > P

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to configure alsa for INTEL HDA (ATI)

2010-09-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:33 on Monday 06 September 2010, Nils Larsson did opine thusly: > > I did an alsaconf- and update-modules-reboot-cycle, but the only thing > > I get with alsamixer are four bars: > > master,pcm,capture,digital > > > > Seems a little too less for "high definit au

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to configure alsa for INTEL HDA (ATI)

2010-09-06 Thread Nils Larsson
> I did an alsaconf- and update-modules-reboot-cycle, but the only thing > I get with alsamixer are four bars: > master,pcm,capture,digital > > Seems a little too less for "high definit audio", or ? But what is you're missing? S/DPIF? Headphone? Front?

Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks migrating from KDE 4.4.3 to 4.5.1

2010-09-06 Thread Alex Schuster
I wrote: > So far, I see no difference from 4.5.0. Nepomuk crashed two times while indexing stuff. I rebuilt it with debug flags, but could not reproduce the bug yet. But 4.5.1 just got masked, so better wait a while until trying to do the upgrade. Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to configure alsa for INTEL HDA (ATI)

2010-09-06 Thread Nils Larsson
> I did an alsaconf- and update-modules-reboot-cycle, but the only thing > I get with alsamixer are four bars: > master,pcm,capture,digital > > Seems a little too less for "high definit audio", or ? But what is you're missing? S/DPIF? Headphone? Front?

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > > For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as such by udev: > I can mount /dev/hda and read a data CD, but /dev/cdrom is not created at boot > time and k3b returns > " No optical drive found. > K3b did not find any optical device in your system.

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to configure alsa for INTEL HDA (ATI)

2010-09-06 Thread Nils Larsson
> I did an alsaconf- and update-modules-reboot-cycle, but the only thing > I get with alsamixer are four bars: > master,pcm,capture,digital > > Seems a little too less for "high definit audio", or ? But what is you're missing? S/DPIF? Headphone? Front?

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-06 Thread Stroller
On 6 Sep 2010, at 09:55, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as such by udev: I can mount /dev/hda and read a data CD, ... Current kernels usually call optical drives /dev/sr0 (/dev/sr1, &c). See last months "DVD borked: SysFS remove

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: advice sought on new laptop for Gentoo

2010-09-06 Thread Stroller
On 5 Sep 2010, at 23:04, Allan Gottlieb wrote: ... With square pixels 16x9 is 1920x1080 (so called full HD is 1080p). This is my laptop's display. My big (30") monitor is 16x10 (2560x1600) and is a joy to use. I prefer the current wide aspect ratio better then the previous 4x3 standard.

Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to configure alsa for INTEL HDA (ATI)

2010-09-06 Thread Nils Larsson
> I did an alsaconf- and update-modules-reboot-cycle, but the only thing > I get with alsamixer are four bars: > master,pcm,capture,digital > > Seems a little too less for "high definit audio", or ? But what is you're missing? S/DPIF? Headphone? Front?

Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED: problem with PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILURI

2010-09-06 Thread Stroller
On 5 Sep 2010, at 17:54, David Relson wrote: ... I've got it without that, Portage 2.1.8.3. $ grep ELOG /etc/make.conf PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES="warn error log" PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="save mail" PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILURI="root" PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILFROM="port...@hex" $ Works fine here. I assumed he would

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-06 Thread Jake Moe
On 09/06/10 18:55, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as such by udev: > I can mount /dev/hda and read a data CD, but /dev/cdrom is not created at boot > time and k3b returns > " No optical drive found. > K3b did not find any optical device

[gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-06 Thread alain . didierjean
For some unknown reason, my DVD r/w device is not detected as such by udev: I can mount /dev/hda and read a data CD, but /dev/cdrom is not created at boot time and k3b returns " No optical drive found. K3b did not find any optical device in your system. Solution : Make sure HAL daemon is running,